Thanks man. I am 67 and Keith is 70. But he is really fit for 70. Keep on keeping on.

I’m sure I’ve watched this vid on ether primitive pathways channel or Hunt Primitives channel & as you’ve said bird points prove to be much more lethal

Thanks Billy. You are welcome.

Thank you

That's wild

I agree. Thanks for watching

Thanks again Rd.

Thank you Dewey.

You are welcome.

Thanks man.

​@@BeckumOutdoors amazing! Most guys will tell you to paint the ends and wait over a year... But I don't think the natives did any of that.. Do you think they seasoned their bow staves? And what did they coat the ends with, deer tallow fat??

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I will, thanks for watching

May have to do that.

and how did it go?

Thank you Briand.

I don't think it will be good with the conifers.

Not if you fire harden the wood. Watch some of our other videos on the Fire Hardening process.

Yes, the time spent over the coals varies from species to species. Some testing on your end can tell this in short order. Thanks for watching.

@@BeckumOutdoors thank you very much for your reply, the second I can get a good stave of mulberry where I am I will begin the project.

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Yes that's right. Deep South summer time. Humid and yes any time of the year.

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Sorry man, I really don't know about your local wood, but I have heard west coast tribal people using oak. Give it a try, nothing to lose only knowledge to gain.

@@BeckumOutdoors I appreciate it will definitely give it a try

I'm in England but have made a few bows from elder - sambucus nigra. It does make a good bow but try to find a clean piece with none of the knots clusters.

Elderberry and willow are good bow woods for certain designs. They're light and weak, and no good at all for modern western designs, but the natives made wide and low-stress bows. Lighter woods means that wide limbs and tips won't create hand shock or lower arrow speeds. Pacific dogwood is a great bow wood. If Elm is a little brother to hickory, then Dogwood is its little sister. Oak is also an excellent bow wood, I'm also out of California. Try for white oak, but red oaks do fine too. Both are exceptional candidates for fire hardening, white oak is likely better than hickory. For tension strong and compression weak woods like elm, dogwood, hickory, and oak, try to use saplings with a small diameter. The high crown will decrease compression strain and increase tension strain, matching the quality of the wood. 1.5in thick, tapering to 3/8in nocks

My bows have not changed any for years now. I hunt alot with long string times. But tiller skill still plays a big part with any wood bow. I take good care of my bows and do not over draw past my draw length or hold a bow at full draw too long. Just treat them well and they will treat you well.

That's probably some form of survivorship bias: 20-30-40+ years ago, few people used anything but Osage and Yew, so there are just fewer older whitewood bows to go around. Anyone who did make them was usually an amateur, so they were probably of less consistent quality.

@@wingit4316 huh? People have been using white woods for thousands of years.

Of course. But if you were to take all the wooden bows in a 100 mile radius, and sort them by age, most of the older ones would be Osage or yew. I don't mean to say that whitewoods are a new phenomenon, I just mean that most commercially sold wooden bows before maybe 2000 weren't whitewoods.

@@wingit4316 there’s no such thing as commercially sold self bows. They’re not made from square cut boards that you buy from Home Depot and so they’ll never be commercially sold.

No, we don't have black locust here.

It will work very well with elm.

It is persimmon.

@@BeckumOutdoors oh ok... I've never heard of that kinda wood, but it looks like good quality 👌 thank u, áhéhéé

No buster, go to primitive pathways and get some flakes. Your moisture meter was a good buy.

@@BeckumOutdoors ok thanks

He is still kicking, just a little slower.