This removes so much friction! Thanks for the fantastic work, folks. Working with Deno is just... great!

I absolutely love Ryan Dahl. Such a visionary and cool dude. First he dragged the world kicking and screaming into multi-threaded servers, and now he's gonna do it again with security. The NPM import system is so cool.

I DM'ed him on discord and he responded, what a generous guy

KV is going to be huge. Calling it If the first half was about eating Node’s lunch the second is about eating Cloudflare Worker’s 2nd mover energy is real

Deno KV, huuuuge!

Excited for the 2.0 launch, I truly believe deno has a great path ahead in the future. Keep up the good work guys!

The legend speaks again.

Thanks for the great work, Deno team!

Common Deno W

Great work 👏

Amazing ❤

I am now moved from Node into Deno!! Deno is really awesome!! Since Deno is also written in Rust!!

The sponsor static images contribute to about 20% of the vertical space. Please cut that out so we can read the console.

I'm the number 7884. And it's working fine, incrementing one by one. I guess a lot a people accessed at the same time

A True visionary.

This looks very interesting 🧐

Amin with the trolly question lmaooo

Neat stuff. Thanks Ryan and Dino team on giving this. would there a pointer to know the cost of the KV?

Thumbs up and subscribed 👍

28:14 Did he say tokio instead of Tokyo 😁 Looking forward to the new KV store.

Oh time to mess with this unstable feature 👀

KV is interesting, but will people be able to e.g. use a postgres, redis, mongo or whatever backend for it later? Nothing against deno deploy, but i dont want vendor locking on a runtime level. If it is only really useful for deno deploy (in practice, for a large scale app) i dont think i will be using this feature and would prefer it being a 3rd party library rather than a core API

I really don't see the feasibility of the new security model if it is evaluated at runtime... Having a deployed application suddenly break because an edge case caused a dependency to request access to an environment variable sounds like a nightmare. I would imagine a lot of devs would opt to run apps with --allow-all to avoid such unforseen scenarios. A better approach (not sure if this is scalable) would be to analyze dependencies before runtime to determine the set of permissions they might request, and then declare these before the dependency is ever hooked up to the project. You would then be able to know exactly what is required by a dependency when installing it. This also begs the question... why even provide the option to deny a permission request? In which case would a dev want to rely on a dependency only to intentionally sabotage it to fail at runtime? Is the expectation that dependencies should gracefully handle being denied a permission? That might work for packages going forward, but certainly won't hold for existing npm packages.

Waitlisted :D

better docs. That’s all i’m saying. It keeps saying node isn’t this or that but you have to really present some docs where I’m like wow 🤩 I like the idea of deno. I’m not a programming expert at work. Like most people I know. So i need some more hand holding if I would ever adopt deno. Side note qwik came out last year (frontend framework) and even their docs are better than deno’s. Node doesn’t need docs. Just type node with whatever and boom there. No problem. I’m just telling the truth. It’s the same with solidjs. Great framework apparently but instead of giving me these lower level explanations just show me how to start from A to get to B, C etc… The one page example isn’t working for me. Even angular has you build an app though it’s a frontend app to get the usage of it across. This idea of, here’s the base of what you can do and figure the rest stuff is getting old. If it’s so much better show me. All these benchmarks mean nothing if I don’t know how to use it. I’ll just keep using Java 😂. the best default with tons of boilerplate but examples galore 😂 . I’m a horrible programmer by the way 😊Rant over

Cool to see Dahl branching out from children's novels.

The power of js is the avility to create Objects as easy as possible. JSON is the real power os js. For me every languaje that shoose this as a standard for objects is going to be successfull.

I'd have rolled my eyes before answering "what is ELF?"

Markiplier is really doing it all huh

Awesome! Why was the choice made to use KV instead of IndexedDB to comply with web standards?

since deno wants to be as compatible as possible with the web, i would welcome indexeddb.

I don't understand this secure by default thing. Looks like it's not possible to manage permissions at the dependency level. One of your dependencies asked for some permission, cool you grant it, then everyone gets that permission. Isn't it just .. useless at that point?

I am looking for a good and up-to-date course from Deno. Is anyone able to recommend something reasonable?

Keep the component library for Fresh alive! It’s great but i would love more resources to draw from.

Just use go or rust or C++ or Odin or zig. Anything that does not require a heavy runtime, both in ram and cpu usage.

If deno now has (or will have) built in node modules and support for npm what would be the point starting any new project with node and not deno?

maybe I'm missing something but why do you need to embed access restriction logic into interpreter if you can do the same on OS level ?

Just a question, node js is single threaded and deno which is build in rust which can use multiple threads but still doing single threading, why ?

Easier accessobility for newer developers usually means less accessibility for intermediate developers. I *want* to know what's going on under the hood and I *want* to be able to tune and adjust how the things work.

Why not kv as a module? Its just making deno unnecessarily huge. Use global imports, if you have to..

Great talk, but I must say Ryan sound different compared to his other talks. 🤔

So glad to hear him pronounce it as Deno...and not Denno like everyone else you lameTube. Yay!

I wish game developers would adopt the same attitude rather than over develop how a game looks when the game itself takes a log time to load. It seems to me that the game software isn't using the full capability of the hardware available.

A proof of stake blockchain that uses deno as it’s execution environment.

He seemed quite uneasy promoting this 🤣 I sensed the "Let me just continue creating stuff with vim" vibe :-)

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Lizz is just beautiful! BTW. Do something so Microsoft will finally add Deno to Azure. Right now I can only use it with Linux docker...

Thought deno would fix typescript, now its just officially bloated. My programming language should not also be my database, two separate concerns.