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Ford Bridgend: What's behind plant closure? - BBC Newsnight
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Күн бұрынFord's engine plant in south Wales is set to close in autumn 2020, with the loss of 1,700 jobs.
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According to Ford, the operation is "economically unsustainable, " - they insist that this would have happened regardless of Brexit.
Our economics editor Ben Chu reports from Bridgend.
Richard Harrington, former Minister for the Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy, Plaid Cymru leader Adam Price and Kate Andrews, the Associate Director for the free market think tank the Institute of Economic Affairs, join Kirsty Wark in the studio.
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@amliv77 5 жыл бұрын
Cadbury moved factory to Poland 2011 with EU grant. Ford Transit moved to Turkey 2013 with EU grant. Jaguar Land Rover has recently agreed to build a new plant in Slovakia with EU grant, owned by Tata, the same company who have trashed our steel works and emptied the workers pension funds. Peugeot closed its Ryton (was Rootes Group) plant and moved production to Slovakia with EU grant. British Army's new Ajax fighting vehicles to be built in SPAIN using SWEDISH steel at the request of the EU to support jobs in Spain with EU grant, rather than Wales. Dyson gone to Malaysia, with an EU loan. Crown Closures, Bournemouth (Was METAL BOX), gone to Poland with EU grant, once employed 1,200. M&S manufacturing gone to far east with EU loan. Hornby models gone. In fact all toys and models now gone from UK along with the patents all with with EU grants. Gillette gone to eastern Europe with EU grant. Texas Instruments Greenock gone to Germany with EU grant. Indesit at Bodelwyddan Wales gone with EU grant. Sekisui Alveo said production at its Merthyr Tydfil Industrial Park foam plant will relocate production to Roermond in the Netherlands, with EU funding. Hoover Merthyr factory moved out of UK to Czech Republic and the Far East by Italian company Candy with EU backing. ICI integration into Holland’s AkzoNobel with EU bank loan and within days of the merger, several factories in the UK, were closed, eliminating 3,500 jobs Boots sold to Italians Stefano Pessina who have based their HQ in Switzerland to avoid tax to the tune of £80 million a year, using an EU loan for the purchase. JDS Uniphase run by two Dutch men, bought up companies in the UK with £20 million in EU 'regeneration' grants, created a pollution nightmare and just closed it all down leaving 1,200 out of work and an environmental clean-up paid for by the UK tax-payer. They also raided the pension fund and drained it dry. UK airports are owned by a Spanish company. Scottish Power is owned by a Spanish company. Most London buses are run by Spanish and German companies. The Hinkley Point C nuclear power station to be built by French company EDF, part owned by the French government, using cheap Chinese steel that has catastrophically failed in other nuclear installations. Now EDF say the costs will be double or more and it will be very late even if it does come online. Swindon was once our producer of rail locomotives and rolling stock. Not any more, it's Bombardier in Derby and due to their losses in the aviation market, that could see the end of the British railways manufacturing altogether even though Bombardier had EU grants to keep Derby going which they diverted to their loss-making aviation side in Canada. 39% of British invention patents have been passed to foreign companies, many of them in the EU The Mini cars that Cameron stood in front of as an example of British engineering, are built by BMW mostly in Holland and Austria. His campaign bus was made in Germany even though we have Plaxton, Optare, Bluebird, Dennis etc., in the UK. The bicycle for the Greens was made in the far east, not by Raleigh UK but then they are probably going to move to the Netherlands too as they have said recently
@raviking6572 5 жыл бұрын
Let' not worry. It will all work out in the wash. The Morgan Motor Company is about to produce a new car call the Farage Brexit It will be a one wheel cart named after an ass, pulled by an ass, and sold at a discount to all the Brexit asses. Vote for Brois and Farage. They are our only hope of a free England and a US deal to become the 51 US state.
@folksinger2100 5 жыл бұрын
Kraft moved Cadbury to Poland without an EU grant Ford moved to Turkey without an EU grant. I note you left out the the UK government under EU rules could have bailed out the Scunthorpe just like the French, Germans, Italians etc bailed out their steel industry. The post referendum pound has made raw materials expensive, with Brexit the plant lost a £2.5 million payout from the EU, over 70% of British Steel output was exported to the EU, those EU customers have found other sources for product.
@LordBransty 5 жыл бұрын
andrew clayson - well said. The mainstream doesn't cover this. George Osborne helped with many of these EU loans too. Another fact swept under the carpet.
@PeligroOCallahan 5 жыл бұрын
"UK airports are owned by a Spanish company. Scottish Power is owned by a Spanish company." so fucking what if we spaniards owe uk airports, brits owe entire villages in the spanish coast and we are ok with it, ferrovial paid good money fair and square to manage those airports,
@VanlifewithAlan 5 жыл бұрын
The same cut and paste nonsense that has gone the rounds over and over again, yet it is lies. It is pointless pointing out to the Kremlin backed traitors because all they will do is go and cutting and pasting what their paymasters want.
@richardmurphy9006 5 жыл бұрын
Wales voting out was a shock too me what were you thinking
@raviking6572 5 жыл бұрын
Low IQ people always follow. They never lead.
@AldousC 5 жыл бұрын
The only thing you need to know is Bridgend voted Leave. Save your sympathy for elsewhere.
@TheLewisLegend 5 жыл бұрын
Ford Europe said Brexit was not the cause
@thejoin4687 5 жыл бұрын
Well, Bridgend is known for suicides.
@folksinger2100 5 жыл бұрын
The UK government under EU rules could have bailed out the Scunthorpe just like the French, Germans, Italians etc bailed out their steel industry. The post referendum pound has made raw materials expensive, with Brexit the plant lost a £2.5 million payout from the EU, over 70% of British Steel output was exported to the EU, those EU customers have found other sources for product. Post Brexit Wales will loose all EU funding, a funding level in some areas per acre that is higher than all areas of France.
@BK-xb5gl 5 жыл бұрын
no company in there right mind would officially blame Brexit for a decision like this. It would be a financial disaster. All the Brexit headbanger would scream "boycott". So they all will pull out one after the other and just give some not attackable explanation. In the Ford buisness model all Ford plants are in competition to each other. And the uncertainty of a hard Brexit is a big disadvantage. In the next few years the same will happen to Airbus, Toyota, Mini etc. They all already decreased there Investments in there UK plants.
@debeeriz 5 жыл бұрын
and it will have nothing to do with whether you leave or stay in the eu, you are just too dear to manufacture products in, your wages are high, your power is high, the cost of doing business is high, the only thing you have going for you is company tax, but then there are countries lower
@dplummer35 5 жыл бұрын
GM introduced the Chevrolet Volt 9 yrs ago. Tesla introduced the Model S 7 yrs ago. The signs of electrification were there to see, Britain could have been riding the crest of the wave of the electric car industry but decided to sit back and see what happens?
@guitounours 5 жыл бұрын
There will be a lot of American soap box cars on sale (on WTO terms, says Nigel, the other big deal maker), nothing to worry about. Always look on the bright side, Britain.
@Gift0r 5 жыл бұрын
It is both funny and shocking to see how brexiteers here in the commens (and everywhere else) are in deny of reality. Anyone who voted brexit had his part in this.
@hauskalainen 5 жыл бұрын
free trade with the rest of the world is what Brexiteers said would save us. Then the EU did a free trade deal with Japan and suddenly Honda said it would build cars in Japan and pull out of Swindon. Now Ford is closing the Bridgend engine plant. The only reason they say Brexit is not the reason is because brexit supporters buy Ford cars and they don't want to piss them off. All this was predictable.
@folksinger2100 5 жыл бұрын
But the company had previously warned that it may have to close plants if Britain leaves the European Union without protecting trade. In January, the carmaker said that crashing out of the bloc would cost it $800 million in 2019. Recent Ford comment denying Brexit is to protect market share!!!
@brendanoneil3489 5 жыл бұрын
Precisely: Ford's fear of a no-deal Brexit and it's consequences for UK manufacture were clearly stated then , now to be seen as anti-Brexit could alienate large parts of it's customer base here. "We did tell you..."
@clowncarqingdao 5 жыл бұрын
Kate Andrews is pretty much a machine gun of a spin doctor.
@Hairyskinback 5 жыл бұрын
She is on point and people hate those that use facts.
@blindfreddy9157 5 жыл бұрын
The UK has been "propped up" by the EU. Now it's beginning to topple.
@barryfowles-zl5ib 5 жыл бұрын
On the morning of the closure announcement, a BBC TV News reporter was filmed outside The Ford Technology Centre Dunton near Basildon, claiming she was standing outside Fords Central Office at Brentwood, given BBC cannot even get simple facts or location right, why believe anything they report?
@VCYT 5 жыл бұрын
An Trumps tariffs dont help !
@nathanielharms9931 5 жыл бұрын
That really depends on which side of the pond year on
@VCYT 5 жыл бұрын
@@nathanielharms9931 , but now yanks have to pay out more. Only greedy governments win here.
@VCYT 5 жыл бұрын
@Malloc , I agree. I noted that as well.
@Aspartame69 5 жыл бұрын
Ford 'Theres a lot of factors that lead to the decision to close down this plant but brexit wasnt one of them' BBC 'So lets talk about how brexit caused all of this. End the licence fee. Make these clueless lovies get an actual job with a realistic salary that isnt paid by coercing the british public.
@guppy0112 5 жыл бұрын
I agree; but 'clueless lovies'? The media are lying, deceitful, manipulative business people- that would be the truth!
@KingScorpio84 5 жыл бұрын
british must really love their economic dismanetling after brexit and the right wing coupist that lied themselves to power and into the central bank
@VCYT 5 жыл бұрын
Not really as 1200 jobs were created today by 1 company - you idiot.
@KingScorpio84 5 жыл бұрын
@@terryblack1306 if life would be that easy one offshore island would have gotten rich with that model long time ago, you are going to become a rouge state, with a worthless currency
@jezzermeii 5 жыл бұрын
Although the workers at this plant have my sympathies, and Brexit (especially a no-deal Brexit) will impact on goods, the larger concern is the fact that services have been widely ignored throughout the Brexit 'negotiations' and by the media also. As a country that exports a lot of *services*, it's particularly worrying that May's Brexit deal doesn't make many provisions for services - it focuses almost entirely on goods. That's great for Europe, as we consume a lot of their goods, but bad for us, as we export a lot of services to them!
@lucius1976 5 жыл бұрын
Well, they are a number of services included in the Single Market. Maybe not as integrated as in terms of goods, still way more integrated then any trade agreement ever signed and likely signed in future. Your problem you throw that out the window because of your Brexit obsession. You deserve what you got, the eventual complete destruction of the remaining manufacturing base in the UK. But at least you are free of the EU bureaucrats. Enjoy.
@jezzermeii 5 жыл бұрын
@@lucius1976 I voted remain, just so you know. Lol.
@brendanoneil3489 5 жыл бұрын
@@lucius1976 Goods and services is the Elephant in the room that a lot of these WTO evangelists don't see. London's role as the hub of financial markets is/was something that created huge wealth for the country, not just for the elite.
@Sthilboy56 5 жыл бұрын
This is only the start , I expect a lot more to close over the coming years .
@JC-mv7rw 5 жыл бұрын
You do know the reason for it shutting down is because they don't make those engine models anymore, why did you not know that...it has absolutely nothing to do with brexit ford have came out and said that. Your just bah-bah-bah-brainwashed by fake news
@Sthilboy56 5 жыл бұрын
populist revolt , did I say anything about brexit , over production of the wrong product and changing technology , why do you all keep going on about brexit there are a lot more factors going on in the global economy than the tiny issue of brexit .
@JC-mv7rw 5 жыл бұрын
@@Sthilboy56 Okay my bad, just seemed like another hit on brexit from the remoaner loser's
@Sthilboy56 5 жыл бұрын
populist revolt , cheers , all the best 👍
@kevinpawsey39 5 жыл бұрын
Having worked for fords for over 35 years if ford is going to close a plant they will close it no matter what brexit or no brexit....ford have their own way of doing things there is a ford way and there is a right way.....ford waste money left right and center there are managers and those managers also have managers and so on and so on
@logik100.0 5 жыл бұрын
I note that the brexiters are not posting as many really dumb assertions. Its sinking in how bad brexit will be for the UK.
@blueboy2589 5 жыл бұрын
This has nothing to do with Brexit. Overproduction throughout the world in older plants is the problem..
@logik100.0 5 жыл бұрын
@@blueboy2589 Funny that was said many times through out the video. But what was also said is if you have to pay to import parts many times and have delays at boarders caused by a no deal brexit no company eg ford will be happy with that. My point is I see less and less brexiters being vocal about how good a no deal brexit would be. Unless you think companies would like loads of more paper work, fees and delays and actively come to the UK to experience them?
@blueboy2589 5 жыл бұрын
I agree a deal would be great, and Mrs May had a good deal until her own side and the Marxists lefties blocked it (without thinking of the consequences). I have worked as a Senior Engineer in the car and aerospace industry both here and overseas, and I understand supply lines. However, there are NO tariffs on auto parts or aerospace parts from anywhere in the world, so that should not change with Brexit. We have overproduction of cars and Germany is also reducing capacity. The only fast growing market is the USA (and this is because tax is low). The UK still has some of the highest taxes in the EU.
@logik100.0 5 жыл бұрын
@@blueboy2589 I have warn you I fact check. Let's look at some of your claims 1 The reasons Mays deal was blocked.. "Marxists lefties blocked it " You will have to show evidence for that. Who are the Marxist left? I know of may reasons MPS voted against the deal from it hurting there backers because of tax clamp downs to it not being good for the UK but not sure where being a marxist left predisposes you to vote against the deal. 2 "there are NO tariffs on auto parts or aerospace parts from anywhere in the world" Funny when I look using the "import rates on car parts uk" I see values >4%, no where can I find NO tariffs 3 "The UK still has some of the highest taxes in the EU." Before you continue with this argument check of what the rates actually are. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_rates_in_Europe In case you do not realise I'm part of the current >50% wanting to stay in the EU.
@blueboy2589 5 жыл бұрын
On your three Points. 1. By Marxists, I mean the Labour party, or at least the leadership of the Labour party which is John McDonnel and Len McClusky (a corrupt leader who cheated in his last re- election by using union funds for a smear campaign over his opponent (and has his family cronies in top jobs). I know, I was a member of Unite and a close friend of a senior shop steward at the time). By the way, Corbyn and his lefties hate the EU more than Farage! 2. Import rates are not tariff. On Tariff, this is set by the receiver nation (customer). Post Brexit the UK will set its own tariff on imported goods from across the world. As we import about twice as many good to what we export to the EU, we would have the whip hand. I suggest we match our tariff with theirs (ideally this should be zero for all, but the EU will not allow the rest of the world to trade with it on zero tariff as it wants to protect many inefficient industries in Spain and Italy (food clothing & footwear). 3. On tax, personnel tax in the UK is paying 45% against an EU average of 38.60% tradingeconomics.com/country-list/personal-income-tax-rate One final point. Most business is small and does zero trade with the EU, but still has to cover the high implementation costs. Most employees (68%) work for these businesses. Have you or any remainers worked out the cost of EU regulation on small business?? My final point is that if it was just a trading block this would be bad enough, but to have non-elected EU commissioners decide what is best is not acceptable (to me). Climate change is an issue for the UN not the EU, and certainly not the middle-class activists of Extinction Rebellion who park the Land Rovers down the road (or fly in from LA). They should try protesting in Beijing !!!
@VanlifewithAlan 5 жыл бұрын
Come on you BrexiTraitors, this is YOUR chance. Give these 1,700 people who are about to lose their jobs, alternative employment.
@neilhedley6947 5 жыл бұрын
Bridgend voted out so why whinge about their vote
@nigget-tv-videos4135 5 жыл бұрын
Because if you listened to the person who knows more, the head of Ford, he said NOTHING TO DO WITH BREXIT.. the engines being made ther, are not longer needed, due to a change of engine, which is made else where
@somadinabush8149 5 жыл бұрын
You people at Bridgend voted for Brexit, now you must reap the benefits.
@johntaylor4084 5 жыл бұрын
BBC yet again putting a bias view of Brexit , who in the BBC is really pulling the strings and promoting its anti Brexit stance ? 17.4 million licence payers who fund the BBC have a different view !!
@johnstroud3448 5 жыл бұрын
Once more we see Parliament continuing to hollow out this Countries Industrial future. They've let or encouraged the slow death of British industry and the future of the British working man. Every Party is and has been complicit in this over many year's, as Cameron so beautifully put it "we're all in this together" a sneer at the inability of an "ORDINARY" man to realise what "they" were doing.
@mamadoubarry8014 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much BBC news
@T4terrible 5 жыл бұрын
4:49 when my mum calls me handsome in front of relatives
@rainblaze. 5 жыл бұрын
nothing to do with the B word? ....Ask your self if other European plants are CLOSING in the same number. If not it's brexit .... how fkn stupid does the british popaganda broadcasting syndicate think we are ?
@KingofCabal 5 жыл бұрын
Ford: "Let us be clear. We aren't closing the plant because of Brexit. End of story" BBC: "This is why they are closing the plant because of Brexit clearly. It must be Brexit"
@nigget-tv-videos4135 5 жыл бұрын
i voted remain in 2016, And i am balanced and honest enough to admit, the BBC are anti Brexit, to add balance the Express for an example are very Pro Brexit. However the BBC are funded by us, and the fact they are so unblanced is disgraceful .. The head of Ford EURO, said its NOTHING to do with Brexit. Yet the BBC had to say it was. The BBC has lost over 3.5 million license fees since 2016 and are dropping more every year .And they are being called out more and more. Its not just Brexit, but the Left agenda they put over.
@seeyouintheeighties 5 жыл бұрын
"it's got nothing to do with brexit" BBC spends the rest talking about effects of it... the de-industrialisation began 40 years ago
@gkelly34 5 жыл бұрын
Wales voted for brexit!
@raviking6572 5 жыл бұрын
Keep fighting for Brexit. Boris for PM!!
@pensans1 5 жыл бұрын
Not watching because it will be brexit's fault
@jamesrosejr33 5 жыл бұрын
"Not watching because my world view might be made to look silly"
@Pining_for_the_fjords 5 жыл бұрын
Not watching WW2 documentaries because it will be Germany's fault.
@praapje 5 жыл бұрын
@@Pining_for_the_fjords Not watching because it's the BBC.
@darrenwilliams2921 5 жыл бұрын
Land Rover , Jaguer has just had over 50 million euros from the EU to move their plant to Slovakia.
@wasiq008 5 жыл бұрын
Wrong. Slivakia paid JLR money to entice them. This is only possible because of Brexit. EU rules don't allow that. Stop spreading bullshit
@darrenwilliams2921 5 жыл бұрын
Where do you think Slovakia got the money from and if it's against the rules , why has the EU allowed it .I was wrong it is £110 million.
@jackkruese4258 5 жыл бұрын
No they didn’t, JLR was given €125 million by the Slovakian govt to relocate, the EU didn’t didn’t give JLR any money at all.
@hannah60000 5 жыл бұрын
Ford was going to close down its UK operations. They are scaling back on car production. The role Brexit has played is it has accelerated this decision / restructuring.
@bench921 5 жыл бұрын
Bridgend could never compete with the likes of Mexico, where the new Dragon engine is also made. Its not about Brexit alone. In those countries workers get paid peanuts compared to the UK generally, and Ford wages are considerably greater in the UK adding to a wide gap in profitability for the company. That's it in a nutshell. It is about making as much profit as possible, and globalisation, which has allowed companies to invest in cheap labour abroad, is a deciding factor. Brexit won't have helped with possible tariffs and friction at borders, but ultimately Ford were leaving anyway. They planned this 10 years ago
@williamford7824 5 жыл бұрын
Ford bringing forth the Hydrogen Fuel Cell Engine from Japan, but then what do I know Mr Archon Sir.
@njosborne6152 5 жыл бұрын
William Ford What FORD? What a You Talking About? There is no more FORD AUTOMOBILE‼️
@grossherman3841 4 жыл бұрын
They make engines that no one wants, it’s not the bloody governments fault, its a falling market and it’s poor planning by Ford. Ford say it’s not do do with Brexit but the left wing union is telling people that Ford are lying and it’s all the fault of Brexit. Bloody liars
@elguitarolerno 5 жыл бұрын
Allow an insider to clarify, we knew we were going before Brexit. Obviously that didn't help but it's pointless trying to say it was or wasn't if u were not there. We built Volvo engines which ceased in 2016/17 I think (can't remember to b honest) land rover/jags and sigma fords. Both of those were always scheduled to cease in 2020 and the dragon even with 250000 per year was not ever going to need as many employees as we had. We were told there was no plan to bring any other engines to Bridgend and then the build schedule was cut in half (further halving the workforce needed) and then cut to 70k (almost half again). This was never sustainable. 2020 was always the end, some just didn't want to believe it.
@alanedwards6491 5 жыл бұрын
If a WTO deal is what happens, we will be free to spend all the tariffs on getting manufacturing back.....
@rob5944 5 жыл бұрын
I was driving somewhere on holiday, can't remember exactly where, anyway someone had sprayed 'STOP BREXIT' in the road several times. Who says it's o.k to throw eggs and deface the public highway like that?
@MetalMew2 5 жыл бұрын
Allow me to try to give you my own thoughts...If Brexit were to go ahead...specifically "hard brexit", not BRINO (to me it's a valid compromise) but so far has been thrown off the table, even with a respectable amount of votes in the HOC; when the HOC won control of the legislation for a week and held the indictive votes...The results partially reflected the pro-market ideology that holds our government like a vice & indicated that although no-deal Brexit may lead to a lower pound and more exports, our imports and purchasing power have been falling, (may change) along with the amount the government spends on it's people and keep (austerity) which means more public services and SME businesses are prone to be shut or subsidised/bought up if things go awry...who benefits? not the Tax-Payer, the winners are Ford & companies/the Government because either way they will make money somewhere, somehow...this is one way of "saving money" in order to prepare for "whatever may come" making profits in other places anyway, Companies do it, Ford does it, and so does the current Conservative government. Brexit is just another factor in a already complicated political process that seeks to undermine the collective by convincing the individuals to make/take risks and not ask for either nothing or as much as they can get away with...not exactly sustainable or fair TL;DR. What's behind plant closure? I think it's the pursuit of profit and a business-minded work ethic/culture.
@evo5349 5 жыл бұрын
To many cars not enough money to buy other than LOANS. Electric cars double the price and none to buy them. The car industry hasn't read the market and this is happing all over the world, Japan product has been cut as they cant sell them.
@alanedwards6491 5 жыл бұрын
Ford will have to pay tariffs on all their European vehicles sold in the UK, OR they could restart vehicle manufacturing in the UK. The UK is their biggest market in the EU!!!!
@tomc8165 5 жыл бұрын
Ford are in a lot of trouble worldwide,But dont worry,when all our manufacturing jobs have vanished forever we can all work at McDs,Costa coffee and KFC,And on our breaks,If we are allowed any,We can discuss the total de-industrialisation of what once was,The workshop of the world with engineering prowess second to none
@Harlock2day 5 жыл бұрын
Are car manufacturers also closing in Europe ? There is your answer.
@rob5944 5 жыл бұрын
Why don't WE take over this plant, keep the steel open too.......Start building OUR OWN cars again??
@tucays1 5 жыл бұрын
everyone must stop buying anything that ford develop dont be held to ransom by these corporations
@Kehua800 5 жыл бұрын
1 of the biggest factors is that cars last a lot longer nowadays
@motorone5301 5 жыл бұрын
I agree. There's a lot of cars still on the road from 2002 I still see now. The bodywork and paint finishes have improved thus less welding needed. Japanese engine cars seem to have well made engines.
@gavinbissell8847 5 жыл бұрын
They don't want/need the engines they make anymore...
@frankbirch3877 5 жыл бұрын
Kate Andrews is right and smart.
@debeeriz 5 жыл бұрын
the average ford wage uk is 15 pound an hour in mexico its 4 pound, add to that the cost of green measures, workers safety, and council red tape, and you can see why ford is moving, and they wont be the last, btritains wages and cost of doing business is to high for manufacturing to remain competative
@alfreddos1 5 жыл бұрын
Simply Ford is loosing market share...not only Uk also other EU locations could be closed...
@rob5944 5 жыл бұрын
I've been exchanging comments with a 'remainer' here for several days. At first this person seemed well informed, but when I proved difficult and stubborn to persuade and challenged them this person became abusive and patronising. This attitude only serves to re enforce my overall opinion of the 'remoaner' ethos.
@jamiewoodford7183 5 жыл бұрын
Once we leave the EU these companies will see that they will have lost the skills we have. Cheap labour = shit product. I predict in 10 years the car industry will have massive problems with there cars breaking.
@terenceclark6858 5 жыл бұрын
The Welsh government didn't see it coming, but the workers did......says it all about the state of politics in this country.....I didn't do my number two's yesterday, I am sure it was because of brexit. We are a country of small businesses but big business act like the tail wagging the dog.
@KimPhilby203 5 жыл бұрын
Kate andrews fit...
@MrHighgate123 5 жыл бұрын
They tried to get rid of people through the loss of the jlr contract ford offered them normal redundancy rates(not enhanced)the welsh boys said up yours we want more,so ford said up urs we,ll close you.
@martinford1670 5 жыл бұрын
When we leave the EU we place a import tax on cars with Ford engines of about 25%. But take into account 3 other car plants moved from the UK because of EU grants. And being part of the EU are Government cannot help that was a problem with are steel industry.
@LudvigIndestrucable 5 жыл бұрын
*our
@tomasbickel58 5 жыл бұрын
As far as I understand WTO, you can't "place an import tax on cars with Ford engines of about 25%". Either all or none.
@tomasbickel58 5 жыл бұрын
Mr Ford, may I, as a German, point out, that Germany has a steel industry, most notable Thyssen Krupp. I would very concerned that your - as you picked that example - subsidized steel industry may compete with our non-subsidized Thyssen-Krupp. Now .. as you move out of the single market towards WTO terms: EU can slap 25% .. 50% tariffs on any steel imports .. from China, US or UK .. to protect Thyssen-Krupp and it's employees. To subsidize UK steel down to Chinese steel prices would blow a huge hole into the governmental budget. Now you may put up your own protective tariffs. May I quote as follow: "To become an independent WTO member after Brexit, the UK has to negotiate lists, or “schedules,” of its own tariffs and tariff-rate quotas. TRQs allow a certain amount of goods to be imported each year with no tariffs, or reduced tariffs. [..] The single objection from Russia is enough for the WTO not to certify the schedules until all doubts are resolved. It’s also possible that more countries have sent similar notices to the UK mission -19 countries have raised concerns informally about the schedules. The exact number of formal notices is unknown, because the procedure isn't open to the public." .. those "raised concerns" .. in slang, it means "suck my dick".
@njosborne6152 5 жыл бұрын
⁉️Is everyone in the press in England this stupid⁉️ There is no slowdown, you common sense morons‼️‼️ FORD has 👉🏽COMPLETELY STOPPED👈🏾making CARS. Congratulations you god damned brixit fuckers. You bastards have put Millions out of work around the world‼️ 👉🏽 GONE Briton, French, American, Mexican GONE 👈🏾 Why are you people lying to your people and ours. And it appears that, Now you’re fully embracing Boris⁉️ It’s ruining your economy and ours‼️ You’ve followed Putin’s instructions to a tea‼️
@HappyinJapan358 5 жыл бұрын
Yes yes yes leave leave leave! I wanna see what happens to you guys! It’s better than the best movie of the decade.
@kennethslade8468 5 жыл бұрын
And nobody mentioned over capacity !
@keithlane 4 жыл бұрын
It’s not brexit JLR don’t have ford engines now they build their own in Wolverhampton........plus if we didn’t have unlimited Eastern Europe immigration making a labourer from Romania easier than a doctor from India to come here we wouldn’t even be talking Brexit
@HammerHealedCD 5 жыл бұрын
And we look forward to your coverage of Aston Martin expansion creating jobs.....hahahahahaha
@LY-uf2bh 5 жыл бұрын
the host is terrible, couldn't allow her guests finish their statement....
@Eliasnotafraid 4 жыл бұрын
That lady don’t know when to be quite when others talk
@nsoper19 5 жыл бұрын
The fact anyone is even mentioning the word brexit is pretty funny. This closure is purely because of the lack of diesel vehicles sold. Its the echo-warriors who have shut this down.
@Gift0r 5 жыл бұрын
Keep telling yourself that.
@nsoper19 5 жыл бұрын
@@Gift0r don't need to. It's evident to all
@dewijones92 5 жыл бұрын
A common pattern across the world. Andrew Yang is a rare politician that understands this
@rob5944 5 жыл бұрын
Had a couple of fairly heated replies from the comment below, so must be hitting the mark.
@zdd9583 5 жыл бұрын
Audi Brussels converted into a CO2 neutral plant. Building the E-Tron. www.audibrussels.be/brussels/web/en/production.html Yess it is a global trend that car manufacturers are under pressure. In EU alot of plants are converting to E-car production in a cradle to cradle suply chain, they have no choice in this multipolar world of tarifs. Out of the single matket production is inefficient. All new technologies asking big investments will do the same calculation. Alot of educated Britts will emigrate seeking new techology firms within the single market. Time to stop Brexit and get real.
@bulletproofkam7931 5 жыл бұрын
Atleast Britain is still a top manufacturing and exporting 10 nation....and is making more and more again. Future looks great if we get Brexit right.
@pauladams4886 5 жыл бұрын
Zzzzz more pro EU propaganda , sorry us Brexiters aren’t buying it Complete BBC bias and bs
@lasagnaboy4728 5 жыл бұрын
Foreskin stuck in the car making machine
@raviking6572 5 жыл бұрын
The foreskin is Farage.
@wolframdebris8102 5 жыл бұрын
@@raviking6572 St Nage? never!!!!
@bluntycunty6952 5 жыл бұрын
I don't care .the polls have gone home
@rob5944 5 жыл бұрын
So, I was right, a certain person DOES question my education, thought as much. Don't take my word for it, read the comment below for yourself.
@patrickokeeffe539 5 жыл бұрын
What happened to Brexit will be great, even better. All we have now is we survived the war.
@BDaMonkey 5 жыл бұрын
We won WW2 or some shit. Declining to mention that millions fucking died. Morons.
@fharrison3011 5 жыл бұрын
well... Germany cars obviously have better value than Ford, even American prefer eu cars over Ford.... wtf...you cant blame people of Britain not buy
@deathguarddavegoogley2022 5 жыл бұрын
I saw the title of this video and immediately thought the bbc would be pinning the blame on Brexit. I wasn’t disappointed.
@nigget-tv-videos4135 5 жыл бұрын
Its important to say 2 things from the off. I voted remain in 2016, but while i havent changed my stance on remain is best, i believe in democracy, and the ref has to be honoured. But th BBC are anti Brexit, i have no reason to just say it, as someone whom voted remain, to add balance the EXPRESS is very pro-brexit. but we all know, the BBC are funded by everyone who wants to watch tv on any channel as its broadcast, so if you only want to watch EMMERDALE, you have to fund the BBC, and they peddle there agenda. A Lib left, anti brexit agenda. its just plain wrong. The head of Ford spoke up and said NOTHING to do with Brexit, But it turns out the BBC knew best, and put the anti Brexit agenda all over it.
@rob5944 5 жыл бұрын
Seems that allowing other nations to gain the initiative in the 70's through strikes, inept management, lack of support for workers being made redundant and poor insight into future markets are really coming home to roost now. Regardless of Brexit.
@rob5944 5 жыл бұрын
@Paul Nolan So it's abuse now is it? How old are you?
@rob5944 5 жыл бұрын
That wasn't a rhetorical question, go on, how old are you and what do you do?
@rob5944 5 жыл бұрын
@Paul Nolan Ah, so living abroad, wondered what what was driving you.......I asked you what you do, not what you did. Thanks for your time, but I'm not going to listen to your abusive messages anymore, no point. When people get like that it's either though frustration or lack of argrument, good bye.
@rob5944 5 жыл бұрын
@Paul Nolan You just don't listen properly do you Paul, I'm not leaving, just choosing not to waste my time with you :)
@rob5944 5 жыл бұрын
In fact I was starting to be persuaded, even gaining some respect for you. But that's gone now, just another sore remainer who can't stand losing.
@brinjoness3386 5 жыл бұрын
What's the problem, uk voted leave. Ford are just obliging.
@Simonmc78 5 жыл бұрын
Great news
@thesoftspottss9080 5 жыл бұрын
its very missleading , it has absolutley nothing to do with brexit!:}}}}}}
@strofikornego9408 5 жыл бұрын
nothing to do with EU dropping tarrifs for Japanese cars, to punish UK car market
@rob5944 5 жыл бұрын
People, there is no point arguing, or even discussing anything with remainers/liberals. Why? Because the're convinced that though an apparently higher social class and education and status that they know whats best for us and they cannot, repeat cannot, be possibly wrong about anything. You only have to look at the fuss and protesting after the referendum result to see that. They don't like not getting their way.
@HappyinJapan358 5 жыл бұрын
And you know what is best for you? I guess we will find out. And please don’t stop there, I’m sure there are many other things you would like to see happening, go for all of them! Stop paying taxes as I guess it bothers you.
@rob5944 5 жыл бұрын
@@HappyinJapan358 Nonsensical answer. " You know what's best for you" listen to yourself, you should enjoy that. lol. I thought that's how it works. We decide what's best and all have a little say, not someone else saying it for us?
@HappyinJapan358 5 жыл бұрын
Run that theory in any business, go to the doctor and disagree that he knows best, tell a plumber he doesn’t know what’s best for you, an architect etc. why have elected people if they don’t know what’s best for you? What are they for? Get rid of the whole process if they do not know best.
@rob5944 5 жыл бұрын
@@HappyinJapan358 I take your referring to politicians in this case are you? I repeat, they asked us. We replied, that IS the process you speak of.
@HappyinJapan358 5 жыл бұрын
A doctor asks you a question you have and cannot have any knowledge regarding outcome of, what’s the point? You want him to know what’s best and advise you, not have some nonsense rambling lies of 2 options and make you choose. Nobody could have predicted what brexit could cause. This mess is the proof. No point in blaming people, or didn’t you see that coming either? It’s a great example of what NOT to ask people’s opinion on.
@baldrickscunningplan6154 5 жыл бұрын
That's right , blame Brexit. but we haven't left! Matters not, just blame Brexit.
@DongsMBM 5 жыл бұрын
if you see someone's threatening to shoot you, and has a gun pointed to your head, what's your natural reflection? wait for him to shoot you? since he hasnt shoot yet, so its not the reality?
@baldrickscunningplan6154 5 жыл бұрын
@@DongsMBM Make sure you have your own Gun is the answer.
@DongsMBM 5 жыл бұрын
@@baldrickscunningplan6154 but you dont though
@baldrickscunningplan6154 5 жыл бұрын
@@DongsMBM Really! Poor little UK is defenceless. Is that how you really see it? Show some balls man and stop being a wimpy Snowflake. The UK outside of the EU shackles will be a powerhouse. The simple fact that the EU is trying to keep the shackles on should tell you that. Use your common sense.
@DongsMBM 5 жыл бұрын
@@baldrickscunningplan6154 the fact that no one dared to speak a word against trump's trade deals with forced chlorinated chicken, hormone fed beef and forces you to sell NHS from the gov should pretty much says it all, but you can still dream that your unicorn is coming, everything will be glorious. Take back control! and hand it over to the US, yay!
@FactualCounterpoints 5 жыл бұрын
Big business loves the single market and customs union as they can pay people less, hire less in their customs and supply chain depts and make more profit. They hardly pay any taxes so why do we care about a tiny profit hit for these multinationals??
@andrewjones-productions 5 жыл бұрын
The immaturity of your comment is astounding. The factory is a major employer in Bridgend and people in employment have spending power. Did you miss the interview with the pub landlord? He is but one example of local businesses that benefit indirectly from the Ford plant. Companies having to spend less in administrative departments preparing customs documents allows them to hire more elsewhere. The notion that being in a single-market decreases the amount of people necessary in a supply chain department simply doesn't make sense - even if such a department exists. A supply chain still needs managing and whilst there may be regulatory requirements to deal with, most of the work will be down to managing a supply chain that suits Ford's manufacturing process and sourcing new suppliers when necessary. The purpose of companies is to make profit. The more the better. What is clear from this and many other debates on this topic is that if Ford were making greater profits, there would be likely no need to close the Bridgend Plant in the first place! Think about that. As for claiming that they pay 'hardly any taxes' also suggest you have little understanding of the difference between a manufacturing plant and companies such as Google etc. who have utilised legal loopholes to circumvent paying more taxes. No one is happy about that and those loopholes are in the process of being closed. As for the rate of tax that companies pay, well that is down to personal opinion as to whether it is appropriate or not, although each and every government will try to strike a balance between being enough of an incentive to attract investment whilst also ensuring that the country's coffers are sufficiently filled and enough benefit is felt. If you think the current rates are too low, then use your vote in the next general election to choose a party that will increase taxes.
@FactualCounterpoints 5 жыл бұрын
Andrew Jones Productions closure has nothing to do with Brexit they said. But Wage pressure is higher when borders aren’t controlled. That’s a fact
@orangecrush6215 5 жыл бұрын
UK should switch to electric vehicles as part of climate change initiative. Get off petrol.
@nathanielharms9931 5 жыл бұрын
Honey nobody's getting a petrol not even you and you know it so hush we don't want to hear your lies
@orangecrush6215 5 жыл бұрын
@@nathanielharms9931 Electric vehicles are the future. Try putting some cream on your Ass if your butt hurts so much from the truth.
@orangecrush6215 5 жыл бұрын
@Mike X The Ford Engine plant is closing and moving to Mexico. I say switch to Electric Cars..
@motorone5301 5 жыл бұрын
What about the infrastructure of electrical supplies for charging? Where are you going to charge your car from home? Plug it into what?
@orangecrush6215 5 жыл бұрын
@@motorone5301 Norway’s electric car success - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aNmcidd7t8maZY0.html
@thebrexitparty7850 5 жыл бұрын
Oil-powered engines are going to become obsolete over the 2020s. This closure is progress not a disaster.
@strofikornego9408 5 жыл бұрын
People got what they voted for 🤣👍
@davidvalter1936 5 жыл бұрын
Long live brexit
@blindfreddy9157 5 жыл бұрын
The Brexiters thanks you all for your patriotic sacrifice.
@davegoldfarb 5 жыл бұрын
eu was suppose to be easy to leave they said in1970s
@jbagger331 5 жыл бұрын
Project fear, episode 10,769.
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