How does Ford's fastest Falcon compare to the cheapest HSV? www.drive.com.au/new-car-compa...
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@davidsweeney9393 жыл бұрын
7 years on from purchasing my FGX XR8, with 47000km on the clock, no paint fade, no leaks, but that damn supercharger still whines!!!!!!!!
@kers225abk22 жыл бұрын
You poor bastard, having to put up with that incredible sound 🤣
@PGee.4 жыл бұрын
Doesn't like the sound of the supercharger winding someone get him a tampon......
@FASTFORCE884 жыл бұрын
Lil bitch. Thats the sound of a supercharger isnt it mate
@Steveq109 жыл бұрын
The XR8 is what it is and that is an Australian designed muscle car, it has just enough technology to keep you safe and sound, enough comfort to travel long distances and an engine that is an absolute beast. Ford US wanted the car dead years ago and Ford AU saved it, but never allowed them the big bucks needed to match the commodore. I cant stand these dickhead journos raving on about the stupid little things like an older interior, a seating position that they cant get comfortable in... I mean who complains about a supercharger whine... what a fk tard. Some idiots that comment here "I have driven both and the falcon is shit...." are full of shit. No one without bias could drive the XR8 and not get out of it with a big smile on their face. Its an awesome car, the old interior is brand new to me and I never owned an FG, the seating position is fine, I just traveled 600ks in one sitting and it was awesome. Personally if you need a car that parks itself you shouldnt be behind the wheel of a SC V8 anyway. The Commodore is no doubt a great car but they are everywhere and I love my XR8. Wouldnt change my XR8 for a GTS HSV..
@Beer_Dad19759 жыл бұрын
Steve Q I think the seating position thing comes from journalists getting out of the (very low) seating position in the Commodore and getting into the (pretty normal for a sedan) seating position in the Falcon - your average motor journo is pretty thick and probably just thinks lower=better because "sporty". Compare it to say, an Aurion, the seating height is the same, but nobody bags the Aurion seat because it's not constantly compared to the super low Commodore. I drove from Hamilton to Wellington last week via New Plymouth - 600km like your trip - and it was super comfortable. Every time I take it on a long trip it amazes me how fresh I feel stepping out of it, no aches or pains, it's a damn good seat. Mine is a G6E-T so it does have much softer suspension than the XR8, but the seat is the same.
@belchy948 жыл бұрын
+Steve Q Mate I have to agree with you, I had a commodore it was comfy but wasn't reliable than mum get a el fairmont wow it has some good shit had alot of room and I found the falcons from the Fg to be more comfortable for bigger than the commodore isn't.I don't about tech i just want realiable car and the falcons were unbeatable in that roll and that holden fail ecept for the kingswood which will be the only holden i buy
@Brendan-ci5mz6 жыл бұрын
Steve Q these type of journos / when they do magazine reviews / are exactly why nobody bothers buying car mags any more - slim content / mindless nitpicking etc etc There’s
@PGee.4 жыл бұрын
The lowest point in my life was when I was a holden fan for around 6 months that is when my dad and brother disowned me. But I'm rehabilitated now and my family has welcomed me back in their lives.......
@gureno198 жыл бұрын
did a 12yo make this video as his first school project?? these animations...my god
@caradvice8 жыл бұрын
+gureno19 We'll be sure to use more star wipes.
@gureno198 жыл бұрын
Drive.com.au hahaha nice! But seriously aren't some of you in the office or where ever you are based,cringing a little looking at this editing!?
@rodneymcgiveron5 жыл бұрын
FGX all day long ...The whine isn't the car ..it's that Mark Short ...That's annoying ..
@syl83009 жыл бұрын
fg x is doing quite well in supercars, go frosty
@ryeconproductions45279 жыл бұрын
Funny how in every other review they comment how good the xr8 sounds, yet this guy (Mark Short) complains about the beautiful supercharger whine! He clearly says the SSV redline came out on top although Carsales review came to the collusion that the xr8 was the clear winner over the SSV! Mark says the Falcon feels 20k cheaper before they even drive the cars! No doubt the clubsport is a step up from the SSV but this is really just an attack on the falcon from Mark. Very disappointing
@tombroc76769 жыл бұрын
Ryecon Productions Well said! I am a holden fan but can appreciate the new Xr8. Mark Short was way over the top with his complaints
@arav49453 жыл бұрын
I’m a massive Holden fan but how can this donut say that supercharger sounds bad
@sarahgeorge19767 жыл бұрын
Has everyone forgotten about the new Xr8, Xr6 sprint!!!!!
@bobkats5 жыл бұрын
Who hates the sound of a supercharger??? Oh yeah the pillock in this video.......
@scottyszoo.80933 жыл бұрын
If I wanted a constant whine I'd take me wife
@davidsweeney9393 жыл бұрын
@@scottyszoo.8093 and low horsepower or maybe your wife goes hard...
@rileylittle93493 жыл бұрын
I'm a proud ford supporter but I would like the supercharger to be abit quieter for a more chill drive but then again i am abit old
@bobkats3 жыл бұрын
@@rileylittle9349 I'm 59 FUCK QUIET
@phoenix204015 жыл бұрын
i saw a review not too long ago, which was far more balanced and informed. the HSV is a better track car, but the XR8 is an all round better car on the road. i actually prefer being able to feel bumps and imperfections on the road, i prefer to drive by feel as opposed to relying on a whole heap of gadgets that you dont actually need. so for the way i drive personally, the XR8 is better.
@standoffsiren02699 жыл бұрын
That was a shitty review. I agree the Clubsport is better in almost every way. I think the Falcon looks better though. David McCowen was very neutral about both cars, and I enjoyed his point of view for things. As for Mark Short, that was just classless reviewing. He picked on every little bad point, and even complained about supercharger sound, Yet according to him there is almost nothing wrong with the Clubsport. I'd rather just watch David do the review himself. And I will say again, that the Clubsport is the better car.
@ddmnn87699 жыл бұрын
Well said my friend, I agree that as an overall package the clubsport would probably be the better car to buy but I wouldn't buy it. To me it just looks like your average commodore and for the price there's so many better cars you could get. Also have to ad that the guy in the black T-shirt was the most biased reviewer ever! How does he have a job still. Dude with glasses told it how it is though so props to him
@ReaLzEdits8 жыл бұрын
+StandoffSiren02 As soon as he said, the supercharger whine was annoying. I didn't listen to a word he said afterwards.
@SICSLIPKNUT8 жыл бұрын
I agree, i am not a fan of either of these cars but this review serves no purpose than just praise HSV! Give the falcon some credit where it's due. Take it to a track and battel it out, see which one wins.
@RobertWeatherall8 жыл бұрын
+StandoffSiren02 ahh, the i really dislike the rear end of the falcon, looks like a mondeo
@ReaLzEdits8 жыл бұрын
Robert Weatherall Passed one the other day. Thought it WAS a mondeo until I saw it in my mirror.
@adamvirgultiify9 жыл бұрын
With the 15 grand you save buying the xr8 I think you could sought out the little issues..... I also think owning one of the last ever aussie v8 would be wicked either way.
@ssvman1008 жыл бұрын
Does the HSV steering vibrate like the VF V8 Commodore?
@7s297 жыл бұрын
That wasn't biased at all.
@joshricho15138 жыл бұрын
This sounds so scripted
@Markusanthony128 жыл бұрын
Lol that HSV guy was so tunnel vision'd, typical.
@orangemustang209 жыл бұрын
What is the cost difference between these 2 cars?
@rosswhyte58139 жыл бұрын
Why did they just compare the HSV against the Ford? Put the SS up against XR8. and the HSV against the FPV. Lets compare a taxi and a Statesman. Thank you Australian motoring writers for the downfall of the Aussie icons that are Falcon and Commodore.
@caradvice9 жыл бұрын
Ross Whyte kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eaeglZartJ2pnJs.html
@rosswhyte58139 жыл бұрын
Cheaper, better rear wheel drive v8? Show me.
@jaybothebig9 жыл бұрын
***** Oh I think by Australian he means the people that settled this country . Not the aboriginal's all they did is build humpys of sticks . The people who toiled their guts out working sunup to sundown . And fought in ww1 and ww2 defending our country and or freedom . Yes they were immigrants , but you would never understand Aussies because you are not one. No offense meant .
@What-gz3xj9 жыл бұрын
Jason Pointon its not only Australia that fought in ww1 and ww2 and if u want me to educate you I will because you talk as if it was only Australians that's were. Australians over look things and don't educate the people and a some of Australian history has been deleted by historians did you know about the black anzacs and also india fought beside you because thay are in the commonwealth
@matthewfyfe84229 жыл бұрын
***** no other 4 door cars for the price that have the strength of a falcon. they always have had superior towing capabilities to holden. iv'e seen crapadoors that can only tow as much as a Camry can. the falcon will be missed very much. where as i'd rather have a 10 year old merc over any hsv. compare what is to what is. i can honestly say the build quality is not anywhere near European standards. in the end you get what you pay for from ford and from holden you get something comparable to a 10 year old merc
@James30760819 жыл бұрын
Personally I like the Ford's. Simple and easy to use interior, the VF interior is just too busy it strains my eyes to take the mish-mash of different materials and angles and curves going all over the place.... sometimes less is more...
@James30760818 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your feedback David. Only brain dead bogans get worked up about the whole "holden versus ford" thing so I can see who the real uneducated inbred is here...
@phoenix204015 жыл бұрын
David Stanic my grandfather didnt learn to drive with a whole heap of fancy gadgets, neither did my dad, and neither did i. i actually prefer a basic interior, there is nothing distracting me. besides, as my dad told me when i was learning how to drive "if you rely too much on fancy toys instead of common sense, you are in trouble." case and point, my ex gf bought herself a car with all the trimmings, including a reversing camera and reversing sensors. i drive an AU falcon, and my interior is very basic, no toys of any kind except for the CD player and cruise control, but i can still reverse and drive better than the ex gf because i rely on my eyes and how the car feels instead of a whole heap of expensive toys that can deceive you as she discovered when trying to reverse into a spot at the local shopping center, she smashed into the car behind her because she looked at the camera instead of using her eyes.
@TheGbh19726 жыл бұрын
Well this was an unbias review lol like the comparison wheels did better (Y)
@trevorrose54363 жыл бұрын
The only difference between the 2 is the optional extras...ie the dipstick in the driver's seat of the holden
@rickbrierley6 жыл бұрын
Biased review anyone???
@cameronvanhooft6 жыл бұрын
I feel like Holden pay EVERY reviewer to make it sound like a MUCH better car than it is to it's competitors. And why does every reviewer only say Bad things about the XR8 and ALL good things about the Holdens/HSV's?
@INUMIMI289 жыл бұрын
I'm been curious for years about why Australia uses kW reading on vehicle's power output
@MaZEEZaM9 жыл бұрын
INUMIMI28 We prefer to keep the horses in the pies....I mean paddock :D
@gerhardmyburg17689 жыл бұрын
INUMIMI28 You want to know why Australia uses the metric system?
@INUMIMI289 жыл бұрын
Gerhard Myburg Yes sir, I was curious about the history behind why Australia started to use metric system unlike other countries.
@gerhardmyburg17689 жыл бұрын
There are many countries that use it. Infact most do as far as I know.
@corbangifford45999 жыл бұрын
Metric is a better system...
@travismarshall1481 Жыл бұрын
Why does it sound like that they're reading out lines?
@letkulettv23919 жыл бұрын
can anyone tell me what color is the HSV Clubsport??
@billybodybuilder9 жыл бұрын
Jamie Santos I'm not anti HSV , but DAMN that's the UGLIEST colour i've ever seen on ANY car !
@letkulettv23919 жыл бұрын
actually i kinda like it? do u know the exact name of the colour?
@ThePOWERMAN1019 жыл бұрын
Jamie Santos i believe its called Jungle Green.
@blampa9 жыл бұрын
Jamie Santos It's called Gastro-vomit.
@johno121o4 жыл бұрын
How come its up against the clubsport and not an SS?
@playingwithrami3 жыл бұрын
It went up against the SS and around the track it lost.
@shannonireland35588 жыл бұрын
Good review but perhaps a bit biased towards the Holden. What hey fail to mention is the huge blind spot issues he ve/vf generation of cars have especially those massive a pillars which is especially an issue at roundabouts and on tight corner And what about the crap foot operated park break.?
@oxygorjiax77229 жыл бұрын
Why don't they say the Commodore isn't Australian!!! Thats a Vaxhaull with a Chevy engine!!! The Falcon is the Australian!!! And Holden sponsor drive Magazine what did you think you were going to say???!!! They're paid to say the opel/vaxhuall/zeta with a chevy engine is anything but an import converted to LHD and put a tired old 6.2L Canadian pushrod engine in it. Give the owners $5K to spend on each car and the falcon with EAT pretty much anything on the road!
@justinnigel38229 жыл бұрын
It's not a Vauxhall. Why do people who don't know a thing about holden make up false accusations. The cars are designed in Australia made in Australia and they are sold in other countries rebadged as Pontiacs and Vauxhalls ect, and yes a lot of them are powered by Gm engines not Chevy engines. And a lot of them were powered by 202, 253, 304, 308, 355 they are engines that were designed in Aus and made in Aus
@matthewfyfe84229 жыл бұрын
justin nigel that was a long time ago.. before gm bought them out. 186 6cyl was a great motor. know someone who used to have one that left 202s crying.
@jawmalawmnz9 жыл бұрын
What about a drag race?
@JohnJohnson-Aotearoa3 жыл бұрын
Both great cars, defiantly no complaints here.......
@boss302frostyfordfan26 жыл бұрын
The holden looks as if its had a stroke
@mattymauger8 жыл бұрын
yeh but it should jave been a gt vs a hsv. if it was even it would have been a an ss vs an xr8
@Beer_Dad19758 жыл бұрын
They did that comparison too - the SS won because it had a more comfortable interior for their fat asses to sit in whilst they watch the XR8 disappear into the distance.
@rocketmagnet4275 жыл бұрын
@@Beer_Dad1975 maybe in a straight line but even the s1 ssv beat the xr8 around a track
@Beer_Dad19755 жыл бұрын
@@rocketmagnet427 Wow, old comment. You are right though, the Holden has the better chassis and mechanical grip - not that it really matters on a road car if you are traffic light racing. As I recall my only point was they are reviewing two cars with a massive price difference, and not cutting the far cheaper Ford any slack for being $15,000 cheaper than the car they are putting it up against - the Ford was amazing value for money but they totally gloss over that. Pure biased bullshit review if ever I saw one. Regardless they were both amazing, and both sadly gone the way of the dodo now.
@rocketmagnet4275 жыл бұрын
@@Beer_Dad1975 Both of the fgx xr's would be cheaper to get power out of than the NA holdens. But they do feel a generation behind inside. Day to day driving you arnt really going to notice anything power difference though. Holden just made the more complete car. And now we have lost it. I won't be getting rid of my gen-f gts anytime soon
@Beer_Dad19755 жыл бұрын
@@rocketmagnet427 Yeah I have a G6E-T I've had for 6 years now, mildly modified to just over 400rwhp. It's getting pretty high KM now so thinking about a replacement, but there isn't much to choose from in new vehicles anymore. The Stinger GT looks good but it's a V6 and I'm not a huge fan of them.
@stevewhitman85293 жыл бұрын
Holden- Hope our luck doesn't end now.
@stephenrenwick51679 жыл бұрын
The guy who loved the clubsport from the start was so obviously biased toward the HSV the entire time.... flawed review... sorry guys, get a better journalist..... the bigger bloke was awesome.
@g220shaun8 жыл бұрын
the hsv does look good... from my rear view awwwwwwwwwwww snap... who the hell complains about blower whine???? He should stick to doing astra reviews... n for the most part hardcore fan boys only buy these cars n all the matters is the drag race... noone after losing a race says 'yea but my interior is quieter'.. man they hav no idea...
@knightfall918 жыл бұрын
guy in the black knows nothing about a Holden the sv6 vz had padshit aswell and i'm a ford fan
@B0SS3308 жыл бұрын
FG X XR8 Sprint - 400kW/650Nm GEN-F2 Clubsport - 400kW/671Nm Let the games begin !
@CAIDMASTEROFPYRO3 жыл бұрын
difference is ford understates power output and Holden gives you the theoretical max
@@rocketmagnet427 Look at dyno videos, the fords always produce more than the claimed power output and the holdens produce significantly less when accounting for drivetrain loss
@boizchannilzz9 жыл бұрын
I have a xr8 boss260 and I have thrown a twin turbo in it and its a beast up against any car
@juanpolo7mg8 жыл бұрын
can I import this ford to the US?
@nezzy21218 жыл бұрын
As long as u don't put a Chevy badge on it XD
@juanpolo7mg8 жыл бұрын
DeRp NeLson why would I lol
@nezzy21218 жыл бұрын
Detroit boy u put a chevy badge on or holden and renamed it xd
@OColpin7 жыл бұрын
Why would you put an automatic in a powerful car like that?
@deathnights-bane33013 жыл бұрын
I have an issue with my brain that makes me incapable of driving a manual without great difficulty (this is not a joke) and I still like to drive these cars so.. That's probably why
@robertgarland9342 Жыл бұрын
I guess everyone has their own opinion between the Ford and Holden brand but for me personally after driving both Falcons and Commodores I still feel more comfortable in the Falcon Regardless of XR6 or XR8.
@jeffstryker14546 жыл бұрын
I’ve driven both and the HSV is better but everyone is different.
@cabbage4372 Жыл бұрын
Hmmm, specialist tuner HSV Clubsport vs factory XR8. Maybe the SS would have been more appropriate? Not biased either way, I just like fair comparisons.
@CurtisLSA Жыл бұрын
or maybe a supercharged HSV vs a supercharged Xr8 ? Works both ways
@swagonwheels6 жыл бұрын
It must not be forgotten, a lot was at stake for both Ford and Holden, as far as each of their survival as a brand was concerned. Politically, lots of jobs were already at risk, so that none of these tests were able to be criticized without maintaining a balance which would not discourage people from buying either. In the end, most cars these days are very reliable, extremely ergonomic as far as driver comfort is concerned, so that it really is difficult to separate any of them any more. As far as us rev heads are concerned, much and all as we may hate one, and love the other, without either, we wouldn't have the motor racing we love so much, which is unique to this country, so it will be interesting to see where it all goes, once each of these vehicles ceases to exist.
@admiralackbar32983 жыл бұрын
The clubby is a gorgeous car
@Aserium7 жыл бұрын
Biased opinions.. Comparison of a standard XR8 vs Holdens top of the line. I'm a ford man but I do enjoy a lot of the holdens (epsecially the interior, as fords kept with the same sort of interior since the BA models)
@jeffaustin81125 жыл бұрын
Aserium brother that isn’t anywhere near holdens top of the line
@billybodybuilder9 жыл бұрын
Both great cars but They forgot to mention one feature , is that after all these Years , Holden STILL DON't have cruise control on the steering wheel ! After all those improvements on the interior , it's STILL on the stick !
@forsakenoce36879 жыл бұрын
Holders still have cruise control tho
@rocketmagnet427 Жыл бұрын
The vf has the cruise control on the steering wheel
@haloaum9 жыл бұрын
now how about you take it to a track and see which is faster and by how much. Also time them from 0-100kph and 0-400m plz. Drive always favour holdens anyway so no real surprise.
@CommodoreWog9 жыл бұрын
haloaum Falcon would EAT IT alive down the quarter. Blown 335 with overboost, mid 12s ALL DAY. VF R8 wont break 13 standard. Guarantee it. Go to the drags and see it in real world.
@calamtransgression92646 жыл бұрын
Why does no one point out Holden sponsor these videos
@caradvice6 жыл бұрын
Drive is editorially independent, we don't get paid by any car companies :)
@garethcurtis75455 жыл бұрын
Drive.com.au we could be fooled for watching that comparison.. surely looking back not your finest work. And three years later ironic once again the commode and all its plastic is dating badly, like they always have.
@Austin-ri3zk8 жыл бұрын
Why are people complaining about the animations? Who cares? I'm here to see the cars!
@kcufdurttnuc53848 жыл бұрын
this is all well and good, but WHICH IS FASTER??!?!!?!!!
@skyline30718 жыл бұрын
that water in stomach lol
@DPCB019 жыл бұрын
Two very good cars people, buy them!!
@DPCB019 жыл бұрын
Xezatt Why do they?
@DPCB019 жыл бұрын
Xezatt Aussie cars unreliable? Maybe in the 70s but it's 2015 now, obviously they're good now. Plus Euro cars are very expensive to repair and service!
@justinnigel38229 жыл бұрын
Holdens and falcons are built tough. Like you can thrash the shit out of em and they still just keep goin
@nodad87638 жыл бұрын
+Xezatt the ACCC or something like that said the fiat-Chrysler brand was the least reliable. And merc reliability is horrendous.
@Doubledunk5 жыл бұрын
My 2001 aussie mitsubishi TJ magna still going strong no problems at all... Fucking love everything about it, I grew up in it too. Large sedan Australian cars late 90s-2017 are great, look great, built tough, have character and are reliable. Just too small of a market for big v6 sedans especially these days and the impossibility of competing profitably in australia
@dmccredden814 жыл бұрын
As a Ford Driver for the past 30 + years the one i had before I got my g6 was a BA falcon with some minor adjustment air intake high flow cat pacemakers and a very good sports suspension I'd get 120 map in 2d gear it was set-up for me for the way I drive not me driving someone else car that they like. I would say the Barra motor was the best inline 6 made by Ford ever and that is the only reason around my area i would flog most Holden's it was MY CAR
@randallk255610 ай бұрын
Ford is perfect for taxi
@gregnotoast82957 жыл бұрын
Guy in the black giving shit to the guy in the blue about the xr8 😂😂
@kevinmosto4 жыл бұрын
Throw in the HSV Clubby LSA
@gypana9 жыл бұрын
Fuck the Falcon reminds me of a VT Commodore, Ford need the get their shit together.
@meteora88889 жыл бұрын
zf gearbox is mile ahead of the hsv. supercharger makes it tuneable and day to day it's fast. shame ford didn't have a decent budget.
@letsseeif2 жыл бұрын
Both cars are history in 2022 [ps who'se the bloke who insists on saying HAITH when correct usage is AITCH]
@coopsnz17 жыл бұрын
15000 more , why hsv interior is better
@ChrisSkinnerrn9 жыл бұрын
H (Aitch) SV not Haitch. We're not Irish.
@ChrisSkinnerrn9 жыл бұрын
You must only know Irish Australians, then
@CurtisLSA Жыл бұрын
Sounds like old mate is a holden fan, yet complains about a charger whine ? lol
@snowman018 жыл бұрын
Blandest looking XR8 ever. Bring on the stang
@Maverick49909 жыл бұрын
So I take it the HSV lost the drag race then lol. And if you don't enjoy a supercharger whine, you're shopping in completely the wrong segment. Like they said, the XR8 is actually a GT R spec in mechanical specification. It isn't meant to try and be an expensive, well developed and engineered car, which both of them aren't and never have been compared to the germans.
@kentatakao68634 жыл бұрын
Why does Australia get such nice cars
@Hapkido82AUS9 жыл бұрын
Falcon loses instantly due driving position. Feels like a Tarago. CUBs will get excited over the nuke under the bonnet, but big deal, where can you use all that grunt most of the time anyway. I'd take the HSV, due to it being better overall. Well, for HSV money I'd rather a Audi RS3 anyway...
@standoffsiren02699 жыл бұрын
David Webb I can't believe how much of a let down the Falcon was. The interior is disgusting, the most out-dated thing I've ever seen. The only reason as to why someone would buy the Falcon is the price, looks or the 1/4 mile time. Huge disappointment, thanks to old mate Bob Graziano.The utter turd that he is.
@MaZEEZaM9 жыл бұрын
StandoffSiren02 Yeah I think its the Ugliest ford ever. and who would want that fuel economy :S
@standoffsiren02699 жыл бұрын
MaZEEZaM I really like the exterior styling, but I HATE the interior.
@TheWretchedWorld9 жыл бұрын
StandoffSiren02 ford had literally no budget when making this car hence why the interior was reused. It looks good in 2008 but not in 2015
@standoffsiren02699 жыл бұрын
TheWretchedWorld $101million taxpayer dollars is a bit more than no budget.
@2jzp4324 жыл бұрын
Get a xr8 sprint
@ProWilson9999 жыл бұрын
Sad that the Falcon needs a supercharger to compete with the HSV and it has a worse interior and at the end of the day it is a v8 xr6 and the clubsport yes a commodore but it is a HSV
@rodneymcgiveron95639 жыл бұрын
xXDahChubChubXx..Maybe you could flip that around and say the opposite...why compare 6.2 litres to 5.0 litres then...The Commodore is a real nice car but I'd buy the Falcon first...just a classier car..not such tin top gimmick Cheers Rod
@ProWilson9999 жыл бұрын
Rodney McGiveron Why would you buy a Falcon and for that money it is as they mentioned stuck in 2008 and the Commodore yeah more expensive but it such a better car and even if your compare the SSV to that falcon sure down 10kw or so but to drive and sit in it is so much better and the only way i would buy a Falcon would be a XR6.
@Beer_Dad19759 жыл бұрын
xXDahChubChubXx Because it's $10,000 dollars cheaper that's why. Spend a few thousand dollars on bolt ons and a tune and you are pushing 550+ to the rear wheels, another few thousand dollars on coilovers, sway bars, some good rubber, performance brake pads and you are going to obliterate the HSV in every way performance wise, and you'll still have change left over.
@ProWilson9999 жыл бұрын
Matthew Sharpe Yeah but eh still a shit interior
@Beer_Dad19759 жыл бұрын
xXDahChubChubXx it's not as nice as the commodore, but it's hardly shit. It's a very pleasant place to sit... And what would you rather have, a fancy set of switch gear or the satisfaction of being able to destroy almost anything on the road?
@anthonycavalliotis8736 Жыл бұрын
The Biggest problem i can see with the commodore is that it's not a Ford.
@Andy_M9865 жыл бұрын
They sound exactly the same.
@frankhauptle27449 жыл бұрын
Wow.. so they buy sports cars and then don't do any actual sports testing.. as in the things the hoons out there would actually want to see.. get someone good who has no holden/ford bias (someone who has never heard of holden would do) and have them do laps in both and see which is faster. then do some stopping tests, a 1/4 mile test etc... give us real stats rather than just a couple of drive reporters trying to act like they are not biased.
@soyunbanano1664 жыл бұрын
The Ford looks WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY Better!.
@admiralackbar32983 жыл бұрын
Two dickheads I see. This Falcon was a flop in every regards, cheap and ugly bloody thing. Same front end on a Ford Focus, and same interior since 06. HSV is bloody gorgeous, looks tough as and pretty obvious what I’d rather daily.
When biased Holden fan boys try to produce a non biased comparison between 2 differing cars, both of which had been canned & had limited budget towards the end of production. The 10k and change price difference i saved when i bought my XR8 Sprint, let spend it evenly around the car to make something better than the Commodore at the time
@justinnigel38229 жыл бұрын
Someone said in the comments that that this is the best falcon ever built. Are you on drugs or something?
@georgea82984 жыл бұрын
Next time try giving an un biased opinion. Or if that's not possible don't do it at all! If you're going to compare a car worth at least 10 grand more to another you need to have an open mind. Otherwise you might as well have a Ferrari and a Datsun. For starters many like the sound of the supercharger.
@Sam-kk3gu5 жыл бұрын
Xr6 sprint eats both
@smartey26124 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t agree more
@gazzamate.92225 жыл бұрын
My dad owns a xr8
@boss302frostyfordfan25 жыл бұрын
Anyone who complains that a supercharger is annoying probably had their balls removed in experimental surgery
@Jenko20006 жыл бұрын
Jeez how much did Holden pay this mob to talk that snot box up! Falcon is much better was there even a good thing they said about the falcon!
@markustama44496 жыл бұрын
I was a huge fan of Ford Falcon XR8's. But this new version looks more like a Mitsubishi Lancer now. Curse them
@caseyschincariol77968 жыл бұрын
how is it that the falcon looks 10x better than the clubsport despite the fact that the commodore is 10,000 dollars more ... holdens special vehicles have always looked bulky and they always manage to put the shittest wheels on there vehicles...
@prabba71874 жыл бұрын
when the driver is bigger than the car
@mrporsche42362 жыл бұрын
The last gt is the xb gt this is not even close to being the best falcon just like the vf is not the best commodore.They are just modern v8s that dont sound anything like the old ones but are teliable and comfortable but not exciting
@ponderingbeyond55669 жыл бұрын
Jaguar XF copy paste rear light.. not good ford...not good
@smartey26126 жыл бұрын
tomigonga yeah and what’s wrong with that? Ford Australia back then had the writes to use a little bit of design from the Jag. It’s shouldn’t be viewed as a negative point but more of a positive one because in the end it didn’t make the Falcon look taxi spec like previous models.
@jamesoliver84408 жыл бұрын
I'll take the Ford over the cluby any day of the week only coz it's supercharged who give a fuk how bad it looks at then end of the day the Ford will smash the hsv and I am a holden fan, sold my ls1 vx ss and got my self a xr6 turbo due to the fact non turbo fg where hanging door to door with me so I jump ship lol
@caseyschincariol77968 жыл бұрын
like look at the clubsport rims they wreck the car in my opinion
@scottarthur22438 жыл бұрын
bias much??
@djp4nfa9 жыл бұрын
I didnt need to watch this to know the winner.
@nezzy21218 жыл бұрын
Yeah just to see which ones quite and which one has better interior
@djp4nfa8 жыл бұрын
Pardon?
@rwac072 жыл бұрын
They could have at least tried to make it less like a scripted paid advertisement
@nezzy21218 жыл бұрын
just remember that a holden engine isnt a holden engine we may as well call it a chev. ford aus makes pure aussie built engines and if u don't believe me go take it to google
@nezzy21218 жыл бұрын
+JUICY WOMBAT Holden has always had engines made by Gm not to mention that ford has always made the best engines back then. The ford Xy phase 3 shits on your tiny manaros and your toranas don't get me wrong though Holden makes beautiful classics. Oh and not to mention that the new hsv has an engine from a 2011 Cadillac ct-v
@djp4nfa7 жыл бұрын
DeRp NeLson the benifits of being a GM owned company.
@geoffreytazprice50916 жыл бұрын
The 5.0L SC Coyote engine in the XR8 is a yank engine as well
@TheGbh19726 жыл бұрын
When?
@oxygojira27449 жыл бұрын
Justin- you have the Internet you are wrong about everything take the binders if your eyes you've been tricked and scammed!!! Do some searching and find the truth and the 308 was the only engine but that was due to ordering wrong parts to the 253 so they had to stroke it. Don't be a sheep
@caseyschincariol77968 жыл бұрын
why don't they compare this shitty clubsport to the new xr8 and xr6 sprints
@Brodie_-oz6vj8 жыл бұрын
Mate the gen-f2 clubby would walk the new xr8 and xr6t sprint. You cant make up for a 55 kilowatt power difference.
@jameslovett86977 жыл бұрын
ahhaha actually the xr8 and xr6t FGX's are faster than all the holdens besides the 430kw GTS...
@Brodie_-oz6vj7 жыл бұрын
James Lovett love how ur responding to a comment I made 2 months ago lol
@jameslovett86977 жыл бұрын
How is that relevant?? But the xr8 and xr6 turbo is faster than all besides the new gts
@coopsnz17 жыл бұрын
Gts is $ 40000 more because of LCT 33% . Without LCT gts is $64000 . Xr8 sprint $ 60000
@CallMeMrX3 жыл бұрын
"HSVoii"
@aspiringaspie32803 жыл бұрын
I'm not a fan of that constant "whining in that car"...!
@Lostsheepp5 жыл бұрын
Hheitch sv
@DamoHyland6 жыл бұрын
Only constant whining is that guy in the black, you are what i don't want in a car
@word19019 жыл бұрын
The hsv is just ugly to me the ssv redline looks way better
@mikegill65585 жыл бұрын
That guy is wobbling as the car drives along...gross
@Beer_Dad19758 жыл бұрын
I think the point where you start complaining about a supercharger whine, and that how comfortable the interior is for your fat arse is the most important part of a car is the point you should realise that you are really not a car person and go take a job as a food reviewer. Seriously, both these cars are awesome, but the XR8 is $15,000 cheaper, and they do not cut it one inch of slack for that huge price difference. To be fair, lets put the HSV up against an RS7 or AMG Merc or something and see how well it does, and not mention the price difference.