Many many thanks

A Rod do you think you can do all that in just over 10 hours?

@@robertking184 lotta werk....

Haven’t noticed anything unusual with my 2020 F-350 Tremor 6.7. I’ll probably get this done when it’s closer to a service interval or the March 22 deadline

Hey ARod. Nice to see you here.

Lord help us!

Not a very nice picture.

Exactly✌🏻👍🏻

Any 2020+ Ford Super Duty owners with the 10R140 that received the Customer Satisfaction Program (CSP) Notice 21B03, for repair - replace the bearing in the Number One Planetary Ring Gear Assembly, might want to consider paying the Ford dealer and or technician extra money to install performance upgrades. The Ford 10R140 and GM 10L1000 were built on a joint venture project by both Ford and GM engineers, with Ford leading the project. Both of these transmissions have a robust structure, but both have several weak internal parts. The GM 10L1000 was not designed and engineered by Allison. Inside information indicates one of the top Allison engineers made a couple of tweaks in order for GM to pay big dollars and use the Allison name. There are two different 10R140 and GM 10L1000 versions for the gas and diesel engines. Problems reported with both versions. The main identified PROBLEM with these transmissions is "cross leaking" in the Valve Body and the "E Clutch Assembly". One company has a fix for these problems along with offering many other performance upgrades in parts like the torque converter cover, triple disk lockup mechanism, CNC machined billet stator, custom clutch stackup, increased clutch surface areas, etc. A rebuilt valve body will cost around $1,000.00 while full rebuilds with several quality internal parts for 10R140 and 10L1000 transmissions will be around $9,000.00.

Glad it helped!

Exactly! Furthermore this is minor compared to past GM and Chrysler transmission failures. The problem with the "single faulty part" inside the Ford 10R140 and 10R140G transmissions is minor compared to the "design defect" of the entire 8 speed transmissions built by General Motors...affecting a long list of models from 2015 through 2019. Numerous class-action suits have been filed against GM over its 8L45E and 8L90 eight-speed automatic transmission. Plaintiffs claim the eight-speed automatic transmission will slip gears, shift into gear aggressively and also cause the vehicle to shudder or jerk. Talk about a "piece of junk". This may well in fact be the biggest blunder of an automatic transmission in automotive history.

@@stephenvalastro5678 Ford (For) the most part, I do like the General Motors V8 gas engines and usually the automatic transmissions bolted up behind those engines. However, I cannot stand.....actually detest and loathe the Chevrolet 4WD and GMC 4WD trucks! I completely agree.....Ford...the Navistar built 6.0L and 6.4L diesel engines...had numerous problems off the assembly line. The 6.0L had failures and problems with the "Surrounding Operating Systems".....cheap, weak design...the FICM, water pump (cast aluminum housing, plastic impeller), engine oil cooling system (oil to coolant to get cooled), MotorCraft Premium Gold Coolant with silicates (formed goo, muck and sludge that clogged the engine oil cooler), poorly designed EGR cooler, inadequate oil filtration (oil filter too small). Bullet Proof Diesel resolved all of these problems with quality aftermarket parts. Example: CNC machined aluminum billet water pump...both the housing and the impeller. I just sold a very nice F350 Crew Cab 6.0L 4WD truck in January. Many people driving these trucks trouble free. Granted, lot of money to get them reliable and durable. The 6.4L suffers from problems with the twin turbos and more importantly, block cavitation behind the water pump. No fix for that. You mentioned 6.2L. I never heard of a 6.2L diesel in a Ford truck.

@@stephenvalastro5678 Why do I detest and loathe the Chevrolet 4WD and GMC 4WD trucks? GM 4WD trucks are PATHETIC off-road, on uneven terrain, especially in mud and snow. GM engineers do not have a clue on how to build a good 4WD truck. The entire truck should be re-engineered. What's wrong with Chevrolet 4WD and GMC 4WD trucks? Check Out the following List -----------> 1. IFS Axle - Poor Axle Articulation compared to the Solid Front Axle 2. Poor Approach Angle - truck is unable to ascend a steep hill 3. Poor Departure Angle - truck is unable to descend a steep hill 4. Poor Breakover Angle - result of Little Itty Bitty tries AND Low Hanging Frame Rails...truck ends up as a "Teeter Totter" on small knolls or mounds of dirt on uneven terrain off-road. 5. Square / Rectangle Wheel Wells - round tire in a square / rectangle opening - the proverbial "round peg in a square hole". GM engineers are stupid! 6. Too Much Lift required for Larger Tires.....4 inch lift required for 35 inch tires and 6 inch lift required for 37 inch tires...messes up the "Center of Gravity" (related to Number 5). Chevrolet 4WD and GMC 4WD are both "Street Queens".....only good for driving on paved roads.....maybe snow packed paved roads to the grocery store and to home improvement stores to pick up a few supplies. Both trucks are pathetic off-road. The Chevrolet 4WD Trail Boss has itty bitty tires. The GMC 4WD AT4 is a joke...and butt ugly to boot. Looks like it belongs in a Star Wars movie. Regarding 4WD trucks........GM = Gargantuan Mistake!!!

@@stephenvalastro5678 All very valid points! I completely agree!!! The 6.4L turned out to be the worst of the Powerstrokes. The same or similar spark plug problem occurred with the 5.4L. However, there is a guy who has been extremely successful racing the 5.4L. Check Out this website ------> accufabracing.com/4.6-5.4-accufab-racing-engines

We have a 2019 F250, with a 6.2 gas V8 on the ranch, with a 6 speed. It has been very reliable.

I drive the 6.7 in oil field, this truck gets hella abused lol, still ticking along ...for now >:) at 104k miles.

Good idea

I had a nice 2019 F350 Lariat 6.2L and 6R140. It was nice, but I sold it in early February and in March ordered a 2022 F350 Lariat 7.3L Tremor which has the 10R140. I wanted the 7.3L engine. Hopefully, this problem will be isolated to the 2020 Super Duty trucks. Two other possibilities. 1. The aftermarket will design a solution. 2. The 6R140 will bolt up to the 7.3L gas engine.

UPDATE: The aftermarket, one company in particular is coming through with performance quality internal parts for the Ford 10R140 and GM 10L1000 transmissions.

I agree 100% with you

Then your dealing with the wrong dealership.

Yea unless the tech is a transmission specialist I’d be extremely worried.

I don't like ford super duty 2020 -2021 very noisy when the def is being cleaned

My man!!!!!!!

How are you liking the Tundra? :)

@@AgentPepsi1 I like it alot. I wouldn't say I love it. But I would give it a 8.3 Needs a few things of course to give it a bit more edge. Ride is great solid 9.1 Power is good 8.5 Looks are 8.6 not the biggest baddest truck I've had but. But it not having a few minor things kinda takes away a little for me. My 1st gen Raptor was my favorite 1/2 ton truck. Power, sound, looks, comfort. Great truck. Did have power steering pump go out at 17k and rack n pinion at 40k my fault hitting a large rock about beach ball size off road. Other than that great truck just didn't tow well.

I am a retired mechanic and Toyota is rock solid. I wish they made a HD truck to compete with the big 3. I had an 07 Tacoma and it was great but it simply lacked payload capacity. I need a 1 ton truck with a 3000 + payload and 15k towing capacity. I now have a GM 3500HD Diesel. I had high hopes for the new Tundra but it in the 1/2 ton segment and that is just too light duty.

You bought a turd?

Agreed.

I agree with you!!!!!!!!!!

Agreed, nothing like a thousand tiny parts to cause more issues than you fix. Lol

Problem is there are no reman or new trannys available. We have been fighting backorders for over a year on over 300,000 different parts. I had one truck sitting in one of my bays for 3 months waiting on a turbo. We ended up ordering 6 of them from thoroughbred diesel.

Glad I could help

My 2013 250 6.2 6 speed never gave me a minutes problem in 265k miles of Ag use... thats why my 2020 has the 6.0 with the 6 speed .... mind boggling how folks will line up to beta test stuff for the manufacturers

Would you trust a Ford tech to rebuild a 10-speed super duty transmission that just came out then with your theory of “just bring it to Ford and get it fixed”

This isn’t just some bugs.

One of the issues I have is the fact that we spend 70k for a new vehicle which is already broke..yes, they fix it but I want quality control at Ford to ensure they don't send out vehicles with broken or badly design components that they know will need fixing...lug nuts, transmission, wipers fluid squirters that stop working after a year...much more I am sure...

I get it man... but here's the truth. Modern automatic transmissions can handle the immense torque and towing numbers new trucks are putting out. Manuals for the most part cannot. Even if they could, the demand is so low for them that there would be no reason to engineer them (cost wise).

Mine was Aug. 19th

I have a 1989 F250 with a C6 trany never had a problem glad I can't afford a new one.

@@freightman My 1997 F350 is still pulling and hauling every day. The fenders and cab are all but rusted off but she's still kickin.

1994 F150 302, Rusty, but keeps on rolling past all the other vehicle owners with $800+ a month payments. Funny thing is I get about 18mpg on the highway with it. A lot of be truck owners hate to hear that.

80s to early 90s were the last years you could get a good truck. Mid 90s to present have been short of junk. To much garbage in them now that cost thousands to replace. Most of them can’t fixed anymore because they were designed to be replaced. It guarantees the automakers business.

if you buy a base trim truck they are almost 1/2 that why buy a car truck for work?

Facts been a ford man my whole life but if they can't make a manual transmission im done ill take a 1978 F 250 over any 2020 ford today

Educate yourself. Death wobble is dealt with. Warranty to 100K against death wobble, also warranty will fix it. They just did mine PLUS warrantied the tires I got a fresh set of tires with the fix.

I've had my 2019 F350 4X4 in for frontend work three times in a year and a half and still not working properly. 😕

@@scampofscamps8080 It's the front stabilizer. It's under warranty make them fix it. Also the alignment, they need to add some shims.

They have replaced my entire steering system twice, plus alignment twice. So far so good. But you cannot help putting a death grip on the steering wheel every time you hit a bump in the road.

They get paid no matter what they do, ford does great warranty work, and only reason I buy fordies, I had 7 recalls last truck, no issues.

@@triedandtrue1820 10 hours to remove fix and reinstall is pretty shitty. Warranty is a lot less than customers pay.

@@triedandtrue1820 the fuck we do 🤦🏻‍♂️

LMAO!!!!!!!!

Is the rapid ticking all the time? If not it could be the emissions system doing a regen. I had that early with my truck and found that out. Sounds like you have other issues yet but hopefully that ticking is just the truck doing a regen.

Well, they may just try to rebuild it instead of replace it ??

What if you beat the transmission and it happens to last until just outside the warranty period? Not a great plan, honestly.

@@stevemanxxx judging by how bad its currently driving it can't last long. I'm only at 26k and it sometimes refuses to shift. I've heard of 10r140 failures before 100k miles

Did you get a letter in the mail about the trans needing to be tore down or did you just take the truck in after watching this video

@@dustinchandler8111 We got the letter.

2020 F350 6.7 with 4.10 rear end manufactured in November 19 I believe.

Okay thanks for the reply I wish Ford kept the 6 speed

@@dustinchandler8111 The transmission got progressively worse after the repair. It threw a 🔧 light today and won't move. Obviously the dealer screwed something up during the repair. Hopefully we get a new transmission now.

Good luck hotrod because warranty work is done by clowns.

20 years

Ford calls their customers "test pilots".

True but a bad sensor or a lose bolt is a far cry from a transmission build.

Even my 2019 Tacoma had a fuel pump recall. 😏

Ford and all others use hundreds of manufacturers for their parts. They test and buy one thing then they get something else. This one hurts.

@@myballsitchsomethingfierce6319 How about the infamous Chevy shake ??

@@northlander4370 Ford death wobble remains an issue.

Glad I could help

100%

But the ford and dodge guys sure like to knock on gm. Hmmmmm now what do you all have to say? Gm is the most reliable though....

Exactly Correct!!! The problem with the "single faulty part" inside the Ford 10R140 and 10R140G transmissions is minor compared to the "design defect" of the entire 8 speed transmissions built by General Motors...affecting a long list of models from 2015 through 2019. Numerous class-action suits have been filed against GM over its 8L45E and 8L90 eight-speed automatic transmission. Plaintiffs claim the eight-speed automatic transmission will slip gears, shift into gear aggressively and also cause the vehicle to shudder or jerk. Talk about a "piece of junk". This may well in fact be the biggest blunder of an automatic transmission in automotive history.

@@alaskarailroad3996 Like General Motors V8 gas engines....but the GM 4WD trucks are PATHETIC on uneven terrain off-road. Here are some valid and undeniable reasons why both Ford 4WD and Dodge 4WD truck owners intensely dislike Chevrolet 4WD and GMC 4WD trucks. Much easier and virtually ALWAYS possible to address weak components, parts, etc on a truck....but IMPOSSIBLE to change the entire truck and fix the bad and inferior design. The General Motors 4WD trucks are PATHETIC off-road, especially on uneven terrain in mud and snow. Why? Following is a list of reasons ----------------------> a. IFS Axle - Poor Articulation on uneven terrain off-road compared to the Solid Front Axle b. Poor Approach Angle - low stance and itty bitty tires - truck cannot ascend a steep hill c. Poor Departure Angle - low stance and itty bitty tires - truck cannot descend a steep hill d. Poor Breakover Angle - low hanging frame rails....the truck can become a "Teeter Totter" on uneven terrain...a knoll...small, low, natural hill e. Square / Rectangle Wheel Well - the proverbial "round peg in a square hole"....and the reason for itty bitty tires f. 4 inch lift required for 35 inch tires - results in a "Higher Center of Gravity".....not a problem with Ford 4WD or Dodge 4WD trucks g. 6 inch lift required for 37 inch tires - results in a "Higher Center of Gravity".....not a problem with Ford 4WD or Dodge 4WD NOTE: Ford 4WD truck owners can run 37 inch tires with only a Level Suspension System with the optional Radius Arms from Carli Suspension For e, f and g listed above.....bigger tires can be installed with less lift if the truck owner opts for cutting the sheet metal on the wheel well openings to provide clearance for articulation off-road.

Ford probably doesn’t want techs in there either but being a pandemic I’m guessing the 10sps are in short supply, so they had to let them do it.

My build date is 1/20 it’s out of the date codes but it’s before hand. Super unsettling

Yea it really makes me wonder why they'd go to the 10 speed

@@giannitriv1888 government imposed fuel economy standards. Same reason turbos are en Vogue.

@@handyman2183 but big trucks aren't tested for fuel economy

Better torque distribution, much better towing capabilities since you can spread the load out through the gears more. Improves towability and driving on steep grades and many other situations.

@@giannitriv1888 they used to not be.

Noticed that too, when he shows his build sheet he conveniently leaves out the gear ratio.

That’s in supplement 1, they had 2 or 3 supplements, they are trying to do those truck with higher gear ratios first because you see those more in ambulances and wreckers and they want to do those first bc of “parts shortage” but all the 250 and up trucks built between those dates to my understanding are affected by this, I’ve got a 250 with 3:55s and it slugs in 1st-3rd bad sometimes also if u hit resume on ur cruise from like 50mph and it’s set at 70 it will hold at a high rpm in like 7th for several seconds but supposedly the gen 2 transmissions in the 2021s have this issue fixed

Do you mean April 2020?

Can’t find supplement 2 this morning to check date. I did not get a letter yet so who really knows. And there’s no notification on my FordPass app. I may not be out of the woods after all. Thanks.....

Well let’s hope your all good thanks for the reply and good luck . I just got mine on Friday last week so I hope it’s ok 👍🏻

Do you have the Aisin or the 68RFE?

@@fullthrottle5563 8 speed ZF 2019 Ram 1500 Hemi.

First, There are several reported problems with the GM 10L1000. Second, both the Ford 10R140 and GM 10L1000 will be getting updated over the next 10 years or so...the expected life span of these transmissions.

Yeah, this is a much more useful way to determine build date than trying to dig up your window sticker.

The driver's door plate only gives month and year.

LMAO, my buddy paid twice as much just to replace the entire a/c system and a/c computer in his 2009 f150 Then I paid for my 1994 suburban that I've put 70,000 trouble free miles on now. 236,000 total miles

simple it probably costs too much to replace with new, and its a new transmissions so no rebuilt transmissions yet.

I completely agree....but, you're right, that will never happen. If I had a 2020 F250 or F350 with this problem. I would have the Ford dealer make the repair on the 10R140 After the dealer completed the repair, I would order a NEW transmission and install it myself or have a very well respected independent transmission shop (BTS in Arkansas) install it. I would then sell the original...now repaired transmission on eBay. I've heard about several dealers using high school boys to change oil in vehicles.

@@15Jeep absolutely correct

Good info, Thank you!!

@@BigBoyToyzz your welcome. Don't need anymore disinformation floating around. People are losing there minds over this.

@@codyphillips48 other than a recall not expiring, what it the difference between the two for the end customer? I understand recalls are usually forced by NTSB and CSP are done by Ford without being forced. But as far as the customer goes, we need to get it done either way. Does the verbiage matter? Also, I go over the document exactly and also put a link in the description so people can download and read it themselves.. What disinformation am I putting out there? I even call it a customer satisfaction program when I reading it.

'B' Programs (Proactive Repairs - e.g. 15B13, 15B22) These programs request customers to return their vehicle without delay to receive a repair or update. In addition, dealers must repair new vehicles in stock prior to delivery. Vehicles affected by “B” programs are identified in OASIS until the program expires or until a claim is submitted for payment against the program number - do not code the claim as warranty. If you do not submit the claim against the program number, the vehicle will not be removed from OASIS until after the program has expired. In cases where the customer previously paid to have the repair performed, the customer may be eligible for both a refund and a repair as defined by the bulletin.

A Recall is conducted to remedy a safety, compliance or emissions concern. When the Company notifies you of a recall for inspection and repair, the appropriate correction must be performed promptly to vehicles in dealer stock and to vehicles presented by customers for recall service. NOTE: Federal law requires dealers to complete any outstanding safety, compliance and emissions recalls beforebefore a new vehicle is delivered to the buyer or lessee. Violation of this requirement by a dealer could result in a civil penalty of up to $21,000 per vehicle as well as exposure to other legal liabilities. Correct all vehicles in your new vehicle inventory prior to delivery. There are three different types of recalls that may appear on OASIS. The type can be easily determined by looking at the letter in the recall number: XE "Recall - Types" • "S' - Safety Recall (e.g. 14S04, 14S08) • 'E' - Emissions Recall (e.g. 14E01) • 'C' - Compliance Programs are issued to address a regulatory compliance issue (e.g. 14C03, 14C04). Recalls remain open until repairs are completed and the claim is paid. Vehicles are identified in OASIS until a claim is reimbursed against the recall number - do not code the claim as a warranty repair. If you do not submit the claim against the recall number using a recall type claim and entering the FSA # in the Sub-code field, the vehicle will not be removed from OASIS and the customer may continue to receive recall reminder letters. If a customer paid to have the repair performed before the recall announcement or paid for emergency repairs away from the servicing dealers after the recall announcement, the customer may be eligible for both a refund and a repair based on the specific bulletin guidelines. Refer to “ Customer/Dealer Refunds for Recalls” for additional information regarding Recall refunds.

Ditto! What he said!

Yeah, the dealer in my town couldn't even do the brake job on my F150 correctly. Another time I took it to the same dealer for simple coolant replacement and they broke a sensor and didn't tell me about it.

Good enuf to get out of the warranty.

@FUBAR DEMOCRATS My understanding is this is a heavy-duty version built for the super duty which was new. Not the same as the 1500 10 speed.

Same here. I know they’ll mess it up somehow

There's only debris in a full fledged failure.

This only applies to the 4.88 gear ratio, this video is click bait.

O-ring silicone lubricant w/probably work. It's also widely available.

It depends what elastomer the o-ring is made from. Since these are in a transmission and in constant contact with petroleum-based transmission fluid, I can't think it is going to be an issue.

The smart thing for Ford to do is simply swap out the transmission and send the cores to reman facility with proper policies and procedures for quality. Otherwise, the resell value on these units just dropped by the amount of a new transmission.

I agree with what you say. I think some dealers will do an excelent job and others not so much. I mean, crap, I took my older f150 to the dealer here in cali for a simple front brake job and they gave it back to me with air in the system so I ended up bleeding the brakes myself. I can't Imagine having the trans torn all apart.

Thus is the case, it is prevelant in many makes, I too hate to have strange hands on my rig. I have 30,000 bench hours working for harley-d, you have the same problem with compenticy of workforce, in many cases the motor company wants the bad item back so they can do an autopsy themselfs and in general they are dedicated to product improvement. It all starts in the field, knowledgable techs give the motor company "heads up" on what they are seeing, so trending issues can be tracked, evaluated, and resolved. I loved that part of my job, and took it serious, knowing that I AM part of the solution. These young techs won't bust their ass at works like us old guys used too, not much interest in anything other than a paycheck for them.

Unfortunately a lot of techs work on flat rate and the cleaning and replacing of a whole lot of claimed parts will not happen.Most just want to get it out the door and move on to the next job.This is just another recipe for disaster.I was a Trans tech for ford for 30 years and have seen absolute nitemares leaving the shop only to back on a hook the next day.

Completely Agree! If I had a 2020 Super Duty with this problem, I would order a new 10R140 transmission after the repair was completed. Remove the original 10R140 transmission and install the new 10r140 transmission. Sell the original 10R140 transmission on eBay.

They work for Congress???

You funny

on2wheels lol

The Ford Dealership told me this is for Diesel only so my 7.3 gas is fine. Is this true?

@@kevindudley8431 yes! Your transmission is pretty stout except the torque converter

@@kevindudley8431 what trans. you got?

Amen!

You’d think they’ve figured out how to put a reliable transmission in a truck by now. It’s only been what? 70 years of doing it. How the heck are the Japanese doing it so well. ? Maybe the answer is to drop atomic bombs on Detroit and start over. Seems like folks get their shit together after that. 😂😂😂😂

Not a bad idea 😉

Holy crap a dealership tech can't even do an oil change properly Good luck with those transmissions fixes I think it's a big problem were about to Have in this country Nobody wants to work for a living anymore Me and my wife just went on the local toyota dealership website to shop for a new car for her The first thing that pops up is Techs wanted

WyTech funkies.

I know, I'm still learning and this was one of my first videos. Try the ones after that. Hopefully you like them better. Also, for whatever reason, it seems like iPhone users hear the background music way louder. Are you using a iPhone by chance?

@@BigBoyToyzz No, just a tablet. It's just that many people doing KZfaq videos think their videos need music when they don't especially when you are giving out information. Have a good night.

@@freedomring4813 I couldn’t agree more!