Why else do you think the entire establishment, MSM and every right wing knobjockey and James O'Brien attacked Corbyn at every opportunity. They were shitting themselves, if he'd become PM it would have been the end of the gravy train for a lot of them.

Like Bernie Saunders.

Your hunch is spot on!!

Corbyn wouldn't be a threat to the system if he couldn't even counter the media smears on him and outmanoeuver his own party sabotaging him. A decent man? Yes. A good strategist? Nope. And bernie sanders was worse by folding to hilary Clinton instead of calling her out over the dnc corruption and starting his own third party like Andrew yang is doing. If our heroes do performative politics rather than use their power or they have bad strategy then we should drop them and find new heroes.

Corbyn is anti-EU. That puts him outside the Pale completely for me. He is a throw-back to the politics of the 70s, the worst possible candidate for PM possible.

Even Owen Jones put out anti-Corbyn crap in the Guardian!

Worse than that the right wing mps in his own party. I'll never vote for this right wing party starmer has hijacked. I voted for Jeremy corbyn not them.

Well to be fair most of the Labour Party is comprised of Russel educated upper middle class Tories. The (by our modern standards) hard left cadre is tiny and very much an endangered species within the "workers" party. Come on, let's be honest, Labour died with New Labour. They stopped representing working men and women in 1996 when Blair threw open the borders and encouraged tens of millions of economic migrants to come here and work for the rich while grinding down the native poor, literally driving them out of the big cities. And those people, blinded by devotion to the red banner, just kept on re-electing the bastards. Now we have social and economic chaos.. and more millionaires and billionaires than at any other time in our history. I say "our". It dies with us obviously.

@@cgavin1 The key moment was the removal of clause four, and all it stood for!

@@kenwalker5384 Absolutely correct Ken !

Because politics is rife with them. They’re all out for themselves.

Agree it would be great if the political infighting in Labour came to an end but as the very presenters of this video empirically demonstrate the attacks do come from both sides (i.e. lots of attacks on those in the centre left); am I saying their criticisms are invalid, nope, just calling out that the infighting and factionalism continues. In line with the conclusions of the report itself, there needs to be more reaching out and collaboration. In the end we are all in the ABC (anyone but conservatives) party and have more in common that things that divide us in my humble opinion. Heck, with the current far right crowd in power I think there are increasingly those on the centre right (Teal party types) who are effectively on our side now (similar to the never Trumpers, they are seeing the big picture and are worried). Just my 2 cents

Well said agree 100%.

Totally agree!

I second that.

I third that. It was an organised strategy to get him out. Thanks to Tony Blair who made the Labour Party = Tory lite Party.

@@geoffreynolds8835 You've now been truly Americanized. Two right wing parties, one playing the left and one playing the right in matchups that are just as fake as WWE, all parties involved working for the same bosses. There will still be elections, protests, and all the external trappings we associate with modernist neoliberal Western democracy, but the common people will have no more power to decide the laws they live under than the subjects of the old divine right monarchs. Democracy dies on stage and autocracy wears its skin.

Doesn't make anyone look great.

I see it more as a vindication of NM reporting.

Almost like they were sitting on it for a time when they would need it most

@@AbsoluteTiger almost like they helped instigate it in the first place then thought "do you remember that time when we help bring down Jeremy Corbyn and it wasn't true, couldn't we bring it back up because Labour seems to be doing well?" Kind of thing.

One, must ask the question . who supports, and contols the media..?

It's revolting. The right also go around screaming now empty gestures like "the most freedom loving". It is disgusting anyone in the Labour party sound like a Tory. Flush them out.

Good. That means you still have a soul.

Right wing establishment?! Lol next you will be telling me that in the 1930s Sir Oswald Mosely starred for not only the Tories but Labour too... wait, what!?

@@hrhcrab They've been two cheeks of the same arse since before Kier Hardie's corpse was cold.

@@hrhcrab what the fuck has that got to do with anything?

authoritarian state propaganda goes a little further in making stuff up or completely ignoring something else, but yeah it is bad.

@@LeanAndMean44 I agree but how can we as citizens of democracies claim the higher moral ground after all this, let alone criticize their media?

Very well put, my feelings exactly. The campaign to oust corbyn and the left has been hugely successful for the right though and this watered down version of a truly vicious and disgraceful period in British political history won't be properly examined by the msm, so will unfortunately pass most people by. There's no depth the right aren't prepared to sink to and no dirty tactics they aren't prepared to employ. So the gloves need to come off when the left take on the right next time.

We heard plenty from the media and bbc when they took the whip away from Jeremy.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Have a billion upticks!

All planned....

Not at all odd. The Murdoch/Rothermere/Barclay brother media monopolies did all the shit stiring in the first place. A report saying their stores were complete packs of lies isn't of any interest to them. And they certainly don't want their duped readers to know it.

@@ncammann My bad, people cant see the sarcasm oozing out of every pore of mine on the internet.

I'm convinced that Corbyn would have either been assassinated or subject of a military coup if he would have been elected in 2019. Imagine the right wing media's reaction to his trying to introduce a covid lockdown in March 2020...

and they call themselves democratic too. Terrible.

Why ‘ suspect’? I thought it was blindingly obvious.

@@mick947 because I didn't have access to this kind of evidence. 🤷

So true!!!

That should be done, but not under the Tainted Labour Party, they're not Labour anymore. We need a Socialist Labour Party.

Well said! Both men of integrity!

I agree

The fact is that the establishment and the hidden hands in the corridors of powerful were scared stiff of a guy who only wanted people to be nice to each other. The last guy to try this was 2000 years ago had the same initials and they nailed him to a tree. The only fault, if it is a fault was he wasn't hard enough on the dissenters who wanted rid of him when he had the chance.

@@MrBanzoid well said x yes and both socialists. Strangely enough the fact Corbyn truly cared about people made him dangerous to the establishment!

if , Corbyn had become PM ,,, his rasberry jam , would feed the uk...

@@davidjohn64 As opposed to the Tories with their hot air and Starmer with his hot air. Get your fill.

Hopefully one in the EU, with workers not needing to go on strike for better pay and a cost of living crisis exacerbated by a poorly managed response to covid, a massive fuck up called brexit and the tory need for helping their corporate buddies profit off the backs of the poor

@@davidjohn64 the fact that he was a socialist and that is exactly who you need when people of types are finding it hard to get by.

@@basfinnis Corbyn didn't go for that kind of politics, a straight shooter if you like and gimmicks.

The BBC are and have always been a tool of the government, filled with political appointees and scared of losing their funding if they don’t conform with government scrutiny. Never forget it!

The good old British Brainwashing Corporation.

John Ware also did a ‘hatchet job’ on the MCB the Muslim Council of Britain many years ago.

Yeah that whole thing burned me out on both political activism and social media. I feel you.

I know what you mean social media can be so vile its very detrimental to mental health (especially Facebook in my experience). Best off without it in my opinion no need to add extra stress to an already stressful situation.

Well done for speaking out about austerity. I did also and still do as one of the most cruel acts of persecution towards the disabled and most vulnerable and poor in society whilst causing untold misery and deaths. A choice made by the cons not a necessity!!!

Labour branch meetings are similar to social media in the sense that the herd mentality overrides anything interesting and pertinent. The lone voice of reason left crying unheard in the wilderness.

@@thomasegan1551 oh i know ... fun fact my local labour party were one that postponed meetings in order to get rid of Corbyn without have to listen hearing to members ... and my MP also got rewarded for their 'loyalty' once Starmer took over and i will say they are good at selling out!!!

More like Panderama.

Many people are so easily convinced.

I did so on December 13th 2019

Here here, we need to stop supporting the BBC TV license on the left.

Campbell all part of the Blair government when you couldn't tell the difference between labour and tory!

@@janewright2800 You still can't. Starmer's only problem with Johnson is that he never invites him to his parties.

That was cool of you

@@tourmelion9221 Thank you. Just keeping my fingers crossed that something will come of it, and that the Blairite regime crumbles to dust. 👍✊️🤞

@@fightclubify either that, or the tories get set on fire and become the new left, the left was infiltrated, surely the right also can be, especially in this state where no one in their right mind would ever want to join, if everyone from the tory party gets sacked and replaced with lefties then you know who did it, honestly, I'm considering rising up the tory ranks to to top to burn it all down and use the frame work for a left party

I leaked the Labour party Report too.@@fightclubify

@@jayhenderson8483 Good man, Jay. ✊️ What do you think of the Forde Report?

That will change...

@@lamueldagon7618 not when so many people who want that to change are so ignorant to think it will come from moving more to the right

Mr JEREMY CORBYN - Surname is say CORBYN.

That's why they worked so hard to knobble, and slander him.

"would have" not "would of"

Is this a teachers convention? 🤦

@@enkaan1676 Yes - and you caused it !

Yep. But it doesn't need to be substantiated as the people who run the labour and conservative parties control the media and the country regardless of who you vote for. I've said this many times but I'll say it again, the west has never been a democracy

In fact saying that "antisemitism is a real problem but it was also used as a factional attack", which the Forde report conclusively shows absolutely was the case, is what got Jeremy Corbyn suspended from the party! Compare that to the language used by labour right-ers who will probably face zero consequences. Utterly disgraceful.

I agree

They would have been fired if they were on the left, remember, people were removed because they asked people not to conflate Israel and Judaism.

True, I think it's even more important in a political party too. How are you supposed to put forward a strong and united front when bitter people are insulting and wishing death upon other members behind closed doors

I remember I used to think the Guardian did pretty good reporting (US perspective, reading it in the 2000s)-did they change leadership in the past decade or so?

@@feydrautha012 Yes, new editor is a plant. They're MI5 assets now after their raid.

@@basfinnis politics editor used to work at the daily mail!!

@@LKeet6 Seriously? Mind you, I've not read any 'news'papers for many years.

@@feydrautha012 Things seemed to change when editor Alan Rusbridger was replaced by Katherine Viner, so yes.

I remember a story about Sir Keir. He was attorney general and in a meeting about miscarriage of justice organised by one of the top law firms in London. There he met Dr Michael Naughton, a world expert on miscarriage of justice and the academic who has written the textbook on MoJ in the UK. Naughton started to engage with Sir Keir, who did not appear to know who he was talking to, but what stopped Naughton in his tracks was Starmer's intervention, "What you have to understand about miscarriage of justice is.....".

@@PebbleStudio Only a story then? Okay.

@@1inchPunchBowl Okay.

@@1inchPunchBowl anecdotes are better than nothing

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I loved him

Many liked him. That's why the media and the right smeared him

If Corbyn was unpopular the right wouldn't have had to work so hard to keep him down.

Perhaps so but most of my family and friends are sort of centre left wing or indifferent haha and they generally didn't like Jeremy Corbyn. I suppose that he's a bit of a grouchy seeming old man put a lot of people off Vs Boris Johnson who maybe came across more fun to some people. Even now years after the election I hear people bringing JC up in a negative light though IMAGINE HOW BAD IT WOULD HAVE BEEN UNDER CORBYN DOESNT BEAR THINKING ABOUT. Stuff like that and it annoys me but I guess it's done now hopefully someone better will come into power after this next conservative pm ..but as you say most of the media will do their best to stop anyone who proposes making significant changes

i love hin

Go back to sleep 🌙

No they can't because the same people that control the BBC control the courts. And it's against their interests to punish their minions.

No. They did reearch, they put a report together. That's not illegal, and tbh the situation you're asking for is something terrible. Governments already have too much collaboration with and power over the press as it is. We need a better press but you won't get one like that.

@@joechapman8208 if by "research" you mean "they repeated what Starmer's crotons told them ver batim." The BBC aren't journalists, they're PR agents for the plutocrat class. They couldn't investigate their way out of a paper bag unless Boris Johnson or Keir Starmer told them the answer. Calling them journalists is like calling NFTs art.

@@tjenadonn6158 It was a stitch-up. It was dirty. It wasn't illegal. Think for a minute what your enemies would do with the ability to throw situations like this to a court, against whatever journalists you do like. It's weird as hell seeing leftists get lusty about courts and new powers. If there was libel, if there was slander, prosecute that. But I bet you there's no case, and you don't really want to create new legal circumstances where there would be a case.

The Tories own the vast majority of the media. Paper, Radio, TV...

Most of the country is Conservative unfortunately otherwise they wouldn't win elections for 12 years straight now. It may be a better goal to help people offline in the real world in our local areas so then they are more open to hearing your perspective and you can team up to take votes away from Conservative candidates.

Well conservatives and labour both are capitalist. There is no difference.

@@ZoneTapes agreed. Do good in society. Being negative online won’t help

@@geoffreynolds8835 I think you'll find that most of the media owners, own the tories?

That means absolutely nothing. I've built many website searches and know how they work. Seriously, look somewhere else for conspiracy

When they ousted JC I stopped paying my membership, and doubt, I'll ever rejoin the Party. As they're Tory Lites.

They have been Tory Lite since Blair

The trade unions are the only hope for democracy, but even the Nurses' union leaders have allowed the NHS to be sleepwalked into privatisation.

OFCOM had RT censored - OFCOM are a tool of the MIPIMATT complex

Yep caught that too and it also amused me .. now onto the rest of the video

1:04

Read what Peter Oborne has written about it!

He would shuffle in his seat for a bit then talk some whataboutary cobblers.

He's full of shit, who cares what he thinks.

He would moan a bit, brush over it as quickly as possible, then vote Tory at the next election, cos you know.

Silent for some reason.

He normally talks complete sense and I would agree with nearly everything he says but he has a gra for Corbyn. I wonder would this report change his mind some bit.

As well as Chris Williamson and Jackie Walker. . . .

You mean he had to play dirty like them?

@@janewright2800 when you back someone in a fight, you expect they will fight and be prepared beforehand. He was anti racist so they turned that against him and made him look anti semitic, he was anti war so they turned that against him and made him out to be a terrorist. This is basic fight playbook moves and though I wanted him to win, he didn't fight. If playing dirty wins then do you want to play dirty or do you want to lose and people keep suffering? There's how you WANT the fight to go and there's how the fight is ACTUALLY going, if we don't improve our strategy to the latter then we lose.

@@ZoneTapes I somewhat agree that he should have stood up for his principles being smeared much more but maybe that just isn't him and he wished to retain a calm dignity

How could a nice person transition to a devious toad? Answers on a postcard...

@@janewright2800 I feel you, I just think he should've won by any means first, got into power to help people in need and THEN try bring some dignity and calm to politics. It was like watching a street fight and he was asking his opponent not to hit him hard or throw dirt in his eyes and it signalled to them that he wasn't going to be tough to beat.

Well the present leader of the Labour Party is a Tory, and many of his shadow cabinet members, plus the upper echelons of the Labour Party.

It is still going on. . . . .