Triggers voice: ‘so what you sayin then?’

Yes you did but that was the uncured or before vulcanising stage of the process. The important point about the antioxidants in the sidewall is that they migrate to the surface of the vulcanised product throughout the tyres life in order to protect the tyre from UV degradation. If you use a solvent on the tyre sidewall then it will wash off the antioxidant and more will then migrate to the surface to replace it. Eventually if you are a frequent user of solvents or indeed if you kerb your car often enough all the antioxidants will have been used up and the sidewalls will suffer UV degradation.

yer its important to say its not like your tyres will expload if you clean them with mineral spirit or IPA and water. But I think a hydrocarbon adhesive remover product will degrade rubber reasonably well.. In fact we have people here commenting that have worked in tyre manufacturing confirming this. So its probably more a case of best practise.

Sled Supreme interesting. Why is it modern tyres only last a few years - as you say they go hard and crack- but I have some classic cars with tyres made in the early 1960s so we’ll over 50 years old and the rubber is still fine, no cracking and they still grip, we’re they just made with more natural rubber back then?

Yes, Jon I agree with you it does have to do with duration, chemical strength, and technique. Yes I know no one would actually try to kill their tyre with chemicals for fun. Okay so UKDavid to answer your question there is different types of synthetic rubbers. They all degrade and gas at different rates, fun fact this was mainly discovered due to the fact that in them1940’s natural rubber became expensive. So yes you are correct there are older tyres that can absolutely last longer. Due to how we look at tyres today for, fuel consumption/rolling resistance and alter the ratios for specific climate and temperature, they are safer and have far more added components that end up hurting their half life for lack of a better term. Sorry for the late response

@@sledsupreme287 Thanks, that makes perfect sense, thinking of modern tyres I've bought in recent years it is the ones that perform best - especially noise and wet grip - that seem to degrade a bit more quickly, but if the additives means they only last 6 years before obvious cracking rather than 12 years is a worthwhile trade-off for that performance. And I guess that also explains why they get noisier as they get older. Wish more people would take notice of tyres, so many driving round in cars which could be so much better and safer with new tyres.

Whenever the discussion of using solvents on tires comes up I'm always remind people how many solvents and hydrocarbons flow through rubber lines. Like gas and fuel lines.

its not uncommen for tyres to be perished after 4 years though. I can say I put some nexens on my golf 4 years ago and they did like 15k miles or something I have not really dressed the tyres more than say 4-5 times and they were perished. I dont think the dressings promote perishing. I would safe washing them prolly does but also high temps perhaps.

Im talking more about cleaning with solvents. But I guess solvent based dressings and water based dressings is relevent to this. Do you find megs endurence never actually dries.. like ever?

@@ForensicDetailing Jon my bad🤦🏻‍♂️.....I didn’t realise people cleaned their tyres with solvents?!😳 On the subject of Meguairs ‘Endurance’ in its pure form it is like Golden Syrup, hence the reason I ‘dilute’ it with Meguairs ‘Hot Wheels’. The resultant product is easier to apply and the end results are one of a very good aesthetic appearance coupled with very good durability. If applied thinly and left for a while to absorb into the tyre and dry, followed by a final wipe over the attraction of road grime is negligible......give it a try😉 I will say that because my Meguairs concoction is durable, if attempts to remove it using soapy water at the next car wash, it will ‘de foam’ the ‘soapy’ water, an occurrence that I no longer have to worry about using a hot commercial pressure washer.

Would love to see a dressing review. Just bought Gyeon Q2 to see if that's any good

I remember being like really impressed with megs endurence initially but nowadays I think there are better.

autofinesse survive on marketing alone, they barely got any decent products sadly.

Not going to lie I use tar remover to clean my tyres works brilliant dissolves old tyre dressing like it's nottin clean then again for fresh tyre dressing product

magma will attack ferrous particles not the anti-ozonant. I dont really use FR's on tyres but I also dont worry too much if some hits the tyre. Autoglym stuff tends to be on the safe side so their wheel cleaner should be fine as long as it says its for tyres. I tend to notice the perishing does happen where the tyre wall meets the the contact face, on the corner. you can never keep a dressing on this bit either really it gets scrubbed off. so not sure.

@@ForensicDetailing Did not expect the reply thank you! I read around and I figure out that the Treads crack can cost weather change. As I do drive a lot it's probably nothing to do with Ozone as the side of tire it self is alright. Anyway thank you. NR1 Channel!

First time ive heard this ! Its as he said your just dressing it to look good . When tyres crack they are normally years old and need changing!

@@daveharris4755 yes but some tyre dressings contain conditioners that help maintain tyre walls.

@@stephenwilson2793 ok

I would guess gyeon tyre. I have both of them in my test coming soon.

rebound is great, theres no universal right here. lots use this product. I am a minimalist I use surfex because its cheap and effective.

I try this soon dave cheers mate

surfex can be used to clean upholstery mate, bilt hamber can advise on concentrations and usage. I would not use a foamer inside the car, just a trigger sprayer perhaps.

Diluted 25 parts water:1 part Surfex HD worked incredible on making my leather, roof lining and carpets look new again. Do it. It's great stuff. But no need for the foam sprayer, you need to see what you're using it on.

yes but Im just not sure if its going to give you any quantifiable benefits here in the UK at least. I supposed on water repellency as well you could argue it will help keep it clean.

@@ForensicDetailing yes probably, appreciate your videos, most in depth detailing channel i know 👍

I like your weapon of choice Stu :) I will defo get my hands on the GT conditioner.

It works but in my opinion it still needs topping with a diluted water based dressing after a gentle clean with shampoo & a soft brush. If you don't the just dressed look doesn't last.

i use orange aaron

@@ForensicDetailing thanks pal just got mine this morning

1:10 works really well.

wtf dave ;)

remember its just the sidewall. the bit that wears is the bit on the ground (the tread) and image the forces and energy going through a tyre is each and everyday. Im just not sure putting forms of silicone on the sidewall really provide any benefit. If they did would the manufacturers not add these materials into the composition. Again its fair to say tyre manufacturers are on a different level compared to detailing product providers, in terms of size and scale and RandD budgets etc... what does your tyre maker say when you show them your product and ask them if this product will be beneficial to the performance of the tyre? Im agnostic in this regard Ive been using tyre dressings for decades. Ive not really seen any performance gains in terms of reducing tyre vulcanisation. I use them for looks really.

@@ForensicDetailing but to your point-that’s the reason we detail! There’s no point for a coating on a paint because clear coat can defend the base coat from salt and bird poop. What a detailing company and detailers do is make it pop. I agree, coatings simply don’t add to performance of the tire reguarding to wear and tear or the life of it. That’s why tire companies won’t add those coatings if they could work - simply cause it’s too expensive to put those on a tire that doesn’t add much benefit in the long term. However from a detailing perspective, a product that makes it maybe a little harder to oxidize, but mostly easy to clean and more black. Take a look at cera trim by TLC for example. They designed a silica based sealant for porous surfaces such as plastics and it gives it a deeper black and hydrophobics. That’s really what we as detailers are after isn’t it?

carpro perl is really cost effective because its a concentrate and you can knock it down 3to1 with water.. spray it into a big hoggs hair brush work it in and wipe off excess. It can dry a bit patchy though.. but its what I tend to recomend. but heres a little tip. Get some Sonax Extreme Tyre Gel. thank me later :)

@@ForensicDetailing awesome. Amazing how versatile the carpro perl it! Cheers

3 years?! My tread is long worn down before I get anywhere near those issues... Or timescales!

@@SparkleanAutos for sure on your daily driver but not necessarily on your weekend whip. What I'm trying to say is that the heat and UV kills the rubber.

@@alatalos I live in Northern Ireland mate... The only UV we get is from a fish tank 🤣🤣

I also live in Ireland. If you don't drive every day they can crack through UV. I got a car with quite meh Nexen N8000 tyres, as I don't drive enough they were dried out and with radial cracking before they got half way through the tread. Unfortunately Megiaurs endurance seemed to do bugger all, obviously the compound makes more of a difference than the dressing! Thankfully banished and on GY AS5's now and it's transformed the car. If you're driving the car enough to get through rubber I suppose it's less of an issue. I'd say avoiding rubbish tyres would be the best protection of all! Saying that I use Gtechniq T1 now, I hope it's in his review!!

Nope, it is tire bloom

off the top of my head I would say you could probably damage the surface of the tyre wall if you got really close, would depend on the pressure washer but I would guess it was possible to damage the surface? but you would really have to go out of your way to like even create a small chance of this.

theres about 10,000 APC water based degreased on the market. Your asking my which ones I "dont" recomend. Thats gonna be a difficult list to maintain going forward. Keep it simple use surfex HD. Am I saying APC is harmfull? Im not watching the video to see what I said. But theres cheap caustic chems used in lots of products because they can add "kick" or be can effective at low concentrations and are very cheap chems. Sodium Hydroxide is the main protagonist. Get the SDS for Raw Sodium Hydroxide and one of its intended uses/applications was in paint stripper. It can attack the binders in paint systems through continual longer term use. Same with strong phosphates etc.. Know your raw materials, check the SDS of your chems. surfex HD contains nothing like that it uses concentrated alcohol ethyoxolates which are less harmfull generally and not considered carconagenic (sp?). On top of this Surfex works out cheaper in its diluted concentrate form that any supermarket/hardware store generic degreaser which is already bulked down to a certain extent. If you dont pick Surfex HD. Check out Koch Chemie Greenstar. European chems have tighter regs than USA. Especially German chems. Does anyone use mineral spirits to prep tyres? Yes. But dont. Does anyone use APC/degreaser to clean tyres. Yes most of the planet does. The browing you see is not dirt. Its anti ozoneant which is like a conditioner use to keep the rubber compound moister and fresh.. when this material erodes from the tyre the tyre will start to dry out and persist. If you clean the tyre with a mineral spirit or even very caustic surfactants the theory is you can degrease the antiozoneant, thin it break it down and flush more out of the tyre. so just a watered down APC brush and a rag to dry it off is the best way to clean your tyre.. nothing clever nothing exppensive. By all means by a detail branded tyre cleaner but it will cost you like 10-15 buck for 500ml. I go through that in one day. surfex costs me about 17-30p a litre.

Are you serious?

@@grandautodetailingtvm totally

That might be contain oil and perhaps even some solvents.

@@Aerouu , it does but probably pretty diluted

I prolly wont get another one adam. they are wicked cars but Im more a coupe guy 240i maybe one day but I think older cars better something without an electric rack.

@@ForensicDetailing that’s a shame I miss your vids on the 140i , older cars are cool though , 240i sounds good too 👍

They typically aren't solvent based.

you may need to use a tar and glue remover on an alloy. try and keep it away from the tyre though I think. FR are water based like brain says.

There is wiper blade protection already 😂

@@jamest5149 Jesus....

:) its still out there, its nasty stuff though.