Wow, that's impressive. It's been nearly 4 months since I've had a Body Battery of 100. I ALWAYS end my day at 5. I'm generally around 50 to start my day. How many hours of sleep do you typically get?

@@VernL4 7 1/2 to 8 hours sleep, I have found adding a weekly strength workout and cross training, has significantly improved my ability to recover.

i also used my garmin vivoactive 4 for infection like covid and so on monitoring, mixed with feeling awareness...body battery always going down and staying down, high stress during all day and night, high heart rate, higher respiratory rate ... it's like that such device like whoop band has gaining more fame in the usa (a golf player noticing higher respiratory rate 2 to 3 days before declaring covid, leading to test for all players)

Same. Watch has predicted flu before any symptoms for a year, No fails

My HRV dropped significantly and sure enough I got sick right after and stayed ill for nearly a week. Even when I felt I was improving, my hrv was still low and I took it easy. That is certainly a metric I watch a lot closer now.

hehe maybe testing coach parry''s eyes...miss the glasses 😃

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Just love these little things they put in. 😂

Totally agree. I listen to my body first, these metrics are “nice to have”. Recovery times in Garmin are super conservative.

There are also processing power and battery consumption in that equation...

Lol, I hope it's up to normal by now:) But honestly, no offense but this does reenforce my conviction that people have gotten over-excited about running marathons. I understand if you're a pro or you want to do it once just to prove it to yourself that you can do it and be able to say I've done it. (Although I feel it's become so common nowadays that it's about as rare as people with tatoos!). But to do them repeatedly, or train for them for years, I am sure maes it a form of exercise that is far from optimal. Too much stress on the body and for what? Personally I think targetiing 5 ro 10 km is about right. You can have a super high VO2 max (very strong marker for longevity) and keep your body wear and tear to reasonable levels.

@@yianpap6093For what? You should volunteer at a marathon, or better, an ultra. The atmosphere, challenge, sense of accomplishment, is incredible. Personally, I would race a 50k over a 5k any day! I have dangerously high BP, and my cardiologist has cleared me to run ultras. Instead of redlining in misery for a half hour, I can jog along enjoying lovely views, incredible people, and delicious food for hours, without the health/injury risks of the shorter but more intense efforts. Mad, can I recommend you find a 50k in your area with low elevation/technicality? Other than adding some trail runs to your current training, you’re already more than fit enough, and might discover a whole new style of running you’ll love, that will take less recovery and be easier on the joints. Best wishees!

Its a Polar Vantage V, but it just goes to show thats its about the metrics and not the watch. Almost all brands have some versions of what Garmin does.

Stress is stress. Ideally you’re always trying to address stress with rest and recovery regardless of its origin.

True, but what did Garmn tell you? Did your VO2max start falling? (I guess not). It probably just told you your training was unbalanced? But overall I agree. My VO2max was 54 till the beginning of the year when I got sick for a week and then hurt my back, so overall took 3 weeks off. Then about 2 weeks ago I started running again and sure enough my fitness was lower, my HR was much higher for the same pace compared to December. But now on my 5th run I can see it's picking up again as my HR is lower again and closer to my usual levels say for a 5:45min/km easy pace. But my Garmin says I'm "unproductive"", that my VO2max is falling (because it uses some kind of moving average that still takes my leveles before I got sick into account), to watch my nutrition, my stress, etc. While in reality my fitness is going up currently.

@@yianpap6093 I don't have stat like unbalanced training, only overall status. But yes, very similar to your case. My VO2 Max sits at 56 for quite some time (only for a single day it went to 57 and right on the next day back to 56) so there is no problem at all. I even feel better than before I just run slower (on purpose) to strengthen my aerobic base and it still says I am unproductive. Which I think is entirely wrong, because except few very slow recovery runs, now my easy ones are 10-15s/km better than before (which is already good achievement, with same HR than before so my training is good and productive. Also the "performance condition" is usually between -1 to 1 most of the time while it was even +5 few weeks ago when I run only a bit faster but with more than 10 higher HR :) long story short, when recovering from an illness I think it's fair point from garmin to say unproductive, but only because it does not know the reason of condition decrease (illness). But for me, who is "just" managing runs bit more and started to do more easy/recovery runs, this stat is very inaccurate. It would be great if there was a feature like flagging the purpose of an activity (recover/easy) to tell it what I am trying to achieve instead of just trying to understand "the big picture" for me.

My husband, who has a stressful job but sleeps well, is usually between 24-84. I own my own business (constant stress), have a broken circadian rhythm so my sleep is terrible, and am extremely physically active. It’s not uncommon for me to be bottomed out at 5 for a week at a time, despite my best efforts. We decided it must be my older Instinct, so we swapped watches for a night. My watch went from 5 to 84 on him, and his went from 65 to 24 on me overnight. 😂😢

Dehydrated, low sleep, bad sleep, stress, overtraining, bad nutrition, sickness. A lot of factors

@@lowzyyy exactly, thank you.

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I'm in my 40's and Garmin gives me a normal range of 31-35. I've read that stress and over training usually keeps it low. Do you let your self recover and relax enough in between workouts? Do you have chronic stress? Those two I'd look at first. Overtraining is quite common and it can go easily go unnoticed, so your body is constantly under stress. Z2 training is boring and doesn't really feel like your doing anything but it's actually a really effective method for achieving good aerobic fitness, it just takes time and patience. Check out the Maffetone method on this.

@samik83 makes sense to me. When I'm over training I get stats like you describe. 80:20 low:high intensity training (ie tons of zone 2) and having lower volume weeks every month or two keeps me in productive with balanced hrv etc.

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Interesting. I've found it super precise

I added it as an extra screen to my activity on the watch itself

If there IS a relation between RHR and HRV, then I would say that an increase in RHR should induce a decrease in HRV (?) Have you got any source for this dependance RHR-HRV?

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Not true for me, have you possibly got your zones set incorrectly? Or possibly you may benefit from more zone 2 training, or look at your running form when running easy?

Yeah not true here either

My Garmin has no idea how to judge my performance or VO2 max. I use it for 2 critical metrics: HR through a strap and pacing. Everything else is nearly useless, but I still love it. I do all of my zone 2 (sub LT1) work in the treadmill….Garmin hates it and penalizes me hard for it. Garmin also hates when I do trail running……a higher HR at a slower pace is of course horrible in Garmin’s book. Then if I do a road speed session of 5 miles or more at 95% VO2 max pace, all of the sudden I skyrocket into Garmin’s good graces. It’s pretty comical, and I credit this with teaching me how to not let tech or other people alter the plan that I know works and produces results. Tech is my slave, not my master.

@@quengmingmeow Dont think they calculate vo2 max for inndoor runs. Also not for runs under a certain hr treshold. Not earlier at least. My older 245 couldnt calculate hills at all so that also threw it out of whack. Dont know if the newer ones take it into account. Trails are hard to attempt to calculate that for though, so many factors that effect performance that they cant possibly know

Sorry, but you’re wrong! The HRV for the Apple Watch is horrible and that’s the most important reading. I sold my watch ultra and bought a fenix 7. Apple is a better smartwatch but not a better sport watch