Forget The Hummer & Rivian, The Lightning Is The EV Truck To Beat

Forget The Hummer & Rivian, The Lightning Is The EV Truck To Beat | 2022 F-150 Lightning

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Ford's first electric truck is shockingly good. It may not be the first EV truck to market, but Ford's "hybrid" approach of blending traditional F-150 parts with a dedicated EV-frame and drivetrain makes for a compelling no-compromises pickup truck that just so happens to have a plug.
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@drax6018 2 жыл бұрын

Yours now at your local dealership, only marked up $20,000-$40,000 above sticker.

@nanocat4141 2 жыл бұрын

funny you mention that, the local dealer had it up 25k above sticker. I'm not going to forget this the day it becomes a buyer's market. I don't remember a sellers market this bad in the last 50 years.

@paigehalfandhalf735 2 жыл бұрын

@@nanocat4141 I'm done with dealerships, done. Not only do they mark it up, but they insult you when you question it. Its "well were obviously looking at too much vehicle for you, its the demand, take it or leave it, the dealership will do fine without you".

@nier2b440 2 жыл бұрын

@@paigehalfandhalf735 sounds like my local Lexus dealership near arcadia

@paigehalfandhalf735 2 жыл бұрын

@@nier2b440 Its every dealer at every brand. It'll never happen, but I wish dealerships would disappear. Along with every crook in them. I'm sure there are some less dishonest ones less gouging ones, but if you're not paying at most, sticker plus destination, and they're trying to get you to pay for other markups like "delivery fee, prep fee, shiny fee, coating fee, fee fee, dealer mistress fee" then the glorious "market adjustment fee".

@themandalorian9934 2 жыл бұрын

this is the way.

@joetacchino4470 2 жыл бұрын

Between Alex's knowledge of Pickups plus his knowledge of EV's his was definitely the first review I watched on the Lightning!

@nidog 2 жыл бұрын

He’s the best. Have watched 100s of his reviews

@victoriagonzalez5830 2 жыл бұрын

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@benjaminsmith2287 2 жыл бұрын

I'm not into trucks but I'm impressed Ford got the $40,000 base version out and it sounds like it is actually not barebones and cheapened down. This seems to be a very successful launch for Ford based on what I'm reading.

@jojojordan5557 2 жыл бұрын

As always: Excellent review, clear, informative, plenty of details which shows you do your research prior to the review. Great job Alex !

@jenniferkause7782 2 жыл бұрын

@matthewflax8602 2 жыл бұрын

Love the extensive reviews you do. Your format for reviewing far exceeds any other videos I watch. Thanks for what you do.

@villLe 2 жыл бұрын

4 secs to 60, steel bumpers the height of a man. Good luck to anyone who gets run over by one of these.

@morganlingsweiler9813 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome review and when you mentioned it will do a donut, I wondered if you were going to explain further, and you did with a video clip! I just moved to the Austin area from another place in Texas and I keep seeing reviewers mention they are in the hill country of Austin or San Antonio testing the new f150, bronco, toyota tundra, etc. I'm jealous. The roads in the hill country can be really beautiful and I think it's cool to know that someone like Alex who has an excellent perspective and delivery on information that other reviewers are missing, is getting to experience these vehicles in my own "backyard". A person like myself won't be able to buy a cheaper version from a dealership until the supply vs. demand/ shortages subsides, but these videos let me know I'm on the right path towards getting a vehicle I can be proud of and enjoy.

@bradyb9929 2 жыл бұрын

Oh look it’s yet another truck announced after the Cybertruck that is actually shipping!

@manoz6194 2 жыл бұрын

Cybertruck just looks utterly useless and ugly

@davidli6899 2 жыл бұрын

if you just want to watch some casual content, you can find lots of videos on youtube on cars and trucks, but if you are a serious buyer, definitely watch what Alex has to say. Very informative.

@patkudo4150 2 жыл бұрын

@Alex on Autos - Very good honest initial review! Thank you for showing off the Lariat Lightning which is what I ordered April 2022 and looking forward to it.

@suserman7775 2 жыл бұрын

I think Ford's decision to use aluminum has given it more advantages than even Ford itself realized way back then.

@markplott4820 2 жыл бұрын

NOPE, Fud motors is OUTDATED and a Decade behind what Tesla is doing in 2022. Tesla now using Advanced 4680 cell, Structural battery, and Gigacastings. Fud motors is unable to use that.

@suserman7775 2 жыл бұрын

@@markplott4820 It's embarrassing to be that much of a fan boy. I like Tesla cars but you act as if Ford hasn't already presold 3 years' worth of EV F-150s

@markplott4820 2 жыл бұрын

@@suserman7775 - TESLA in Q1 22 outsold all EV oems and even the Model X outsold the Muck-e in Q1 and April. Fud motors has LOW Demand, low Production of its BEV products . and each year since 2015 Ford ICE/Hybrid products are in DECLINE . and its ICE/Hybrid business wont recover , it will go to ZERO. leaving just the BEV business , and Fud is unable to Scale or Produce MILLIONS of BEV.

@heathwirt8919 2 жыл бұрын

@@markplott4820 The Cyberflop is just a pipe dream, this is a real truck.

@suserman7775 2 жыл бұрын

@@markplott4820 Did you forget Cybertruck vs F150?

@rightlanehog3151 2 жыл бұрын

Alex, Is it Front Trunk Comfort Index, Frunk Comfort Index or Frunk/Trunk Comfort Index? Kudos to Ford for providing independent rear suspension in a pickup. IRS is a feature we see in most premium SUVs so there is no reason a high priced, fancy pickup cannot have it too.

@damilolaakanni 2 жыл бұрын

Key word there is most. Toyota/Lexus is still using solid rear axles. The Sequoia used IRS for the last generation, but since Toyota decided to produce it on the same assembly line as the tundra, the Sequoia is going back to a solid rear axle.

@spacebound1969 2 жыл бұрын

@@damilolaakanni Don't let them fool you into thinking that this is for any other reason than cost.

@plmn93 2 жыл бұрын

@@spacebound1969 Articulation, durability, and staying in alignment are valid reasons to have solid axles in a truck. Same with leaf springs, they distribute the load across the frame better. And yes, you can overcome that by throwing more money at it...which is a cost that is passed on directly to the consumer. Not all consumers want to pay for that in a vehicle that is used to do truck things.

@spacebound1969 2 жыл бұрын

@@plmn93 Yes, there can be advantages. However, the biggest advantage is cost. And considering Toyotas are some of the most expensive trucks they certainly aren't passing those savings onto the consumer.

@EricsonHerbas 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for highlighting the important details and adding (some) humor. Great channel.

@pstoneking3418 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent, very informative video. Great job.

@heathwirt8919 2 жыл бұрын

Always the best reviews, well done Alex.

@MrCPPG 2 жыл бұрын

Ford did a surprisingly good job on this. The utility of this truck for folks who use truck to do WORK is without equal in the ev world. The bed weighing and 120v outlets are especially innovative. I cannot for the life of me understand what Tesla, who have been making EVs for over 10 year refuses to add a 120v house outlet to their cars.

@plmn93 2 жыл бұрын

Tesla likes to cheap out and call it futuristic design. It's why they use a big Chinese touchscreen instead of designing, engineering, and manufacturing easier to use buttons and switches. Cheaper to just program it into the screen. Ergonomics and common sense be damned.

@VitalVampyr 2 жыл бұрын

Since even relatively small EVs can have such huge battery capacities I hope mains voltage outlets become a standard feature. Pretty much any modern EV has the kWhs to run a refrigerator for weeks.

@tomchepey2999 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent review as usual

@shadad07 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent review! one of the best reviews so far if its not the best.

@ksspang 2 жыл бұрын

Thorough as always, great video love the analysis

@richh650 2 жыл бұрын

Great review Alex!

@ebnhahn1993 2 жыл бұрын

Great Review Alex!. Thank You..👍👍

@CoolDude-sf6rd 2 жыл бұрын

Alex Love your in depth information

@drewdugan9916 2 жыл бұрын

I like how you cue a song title that’s relevant to your reviews; fun stuff!

@joetacchino4470 2 жыл бұрын

Also, thank you for your comment about range and highway testing. IMO, EPA testing for range on an EV should be all highway as it's the worst case. Because that's when you need to really understand range. If you're just Intercity, then you're almost certainly close to a plug and it's not a big deal. Range is only an issue when you're long hauling the open road between DC Fast chargers.

@ericmgodfrey 2 жыл бұрын

Its should at least be 55% highway. Biased toward poor mileage, like for gas cars.

@jghall00 2 жыл бұрын

Or just provide a range for all highway and all city.

@COSolar6419 2 жыл бұрын

There is an EPA city, highway and combined city/highway MPGe rating available for electric vehicles. As with gas vehicles your mileage and/or range will vary.

@roodick85 2 жыл бұрын

I love how i10 has DC chargers every 100 miles and ppl don't even realize it.

@markmiller3279 2 жыл бұрын

True, but I understand that the EPA wants some consistency with how they test ICE cars. Maybe they should just publish efficiency numbers for city and mixed driving, and range only for freeway driving (at 65 mph, maybe).

@markjohnson2079 2 жыл бұрын

Sharp looking truck - thanks Alex! I've been waiting for a detailed review of this vs the few minute quicklooks!

@markplott4820 2 жыл бұрын

OUTDATED truck built with Horse & Buggy Technology.

@jjcastleberry3662 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Alex.

@TacoRob Жыл бұрын

Love that big info screen

@hereigoagain5050 2 жыл бұрын

"Frunk Comfort Index." Outstanding!

@jtr82369 2 жыл бұрын

Nice presentation and breakdown, I am looking forward to your infotainment video and hope you will include info on what is not available on the base system.

@PaulBailey3 2 жыл бұрын

Good point on the R1T vs ⚡

@long_fellow 2 жыл бұрын

Alex it's like you read my mind. I was literally gonna ask to do a F150 Lightning review today. God bless you.

@_CarlosA 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome video and amazing truck!

@fer557 2 жыл бұрын

Exclusive Front trunk comfort index hahaha love it

@arthurmarsch6211 2 жыл бұрын

@2:40 the animation on the Frunk comfort index is hilarious!!!😂😂😂😂

@Wised1000 2 жыл бұрын

I loved your towing explanation it was right on the money. The problem with long range trailering on EV trucks is not capacity nor range (anymore) its charging time. If you have a gas truck the range you get while towing is a second thought. You simply pull off in any corner and top it off in 5 minutes and continue merrily on your way. On an EV the range might be similar but now it takes 45 minutes! Most truck owners don't use their truck as "trucks" very much, but prospective buyers that intend to tow long distances on a regular basis. should be aware of that limitation.

@MBTUE 2 жыл бұрын

Sounds great but a longer box is a must . Maybe 6'-6" ? Min. Great review Alex .

@bobuncle8704 2 жыл бұрын

This is now my ideal/dream vehicle.

@jimcmf2 2 жыл бұрын

Great helpful video 📸

@BryanSeigneur0 2 жыл бұрын

23:15 That's also the difference between depleting your range doing a job across the state, coming home to plugin & sleep, then waking up with a full charge AND *not* waking up with a full charge.

@samoverlockme 2 жыл бұрын

It's kind of silly perhaps, but I really do appreciate the symmetrical badging in the charge port area. It just looks / feels clean and well designed.

@strangerland9791 2 жыл бұрын

It IS silly, we do not put 2 identical looking gas door on both side of the car just to look "symmetrical". It just adds confusion IMHO. That said, of course, I guess confusion will go away after plugging it in couple of times though.

@4tasmic 2 жыл бұрын

Alex! You're so good!

@jaytate491 2 жыл бұрын

I'll be picking one up as a battery backup to my custom home build once its completed.

@robevans916 2 жыл бұрын

This truck will be perfect for me once the long range model is the price of the standard XLT now lol. But spending $72k on an XLT F150 is bananas. The $7500 tax credit definitely helps, but even then, $65k puts you into nicely equipped Lariat territory. Maybe in 5yrs things will be different.

@rizocars6115 2 жыл бұрын

I wish you were right, but with inflation i don't think ev are going to get any cheaper in 5 years, that's has never happened in the car industry, prices just go up. Even if they can cost by 20-30% price will just go up anyway

@canyonero2050 2 жыл бұрын

Yeh in 5 years they'll cost more. Inflation is one thing but the price of lithium and other metals used to make the batteries is skyrocketing. The price of electricity to charge this things is also going to skyrocket. The real joke is the hidden cost of EV vehicles. The US government is massively subsidizing this entire endeavor. They are giving payouts and tax cuts to Ford and GM and government is also paying out for battery tech advancement and paying out for a EV charging grid. The taxpayers are paying for all of this while corporations sit back and collect bonuses and tax breaks and give us 90k dollar vehicles in return.

@teknightrider2586 2 жыл бұрын

@AlexonAutos Oh my goodness...my Star White Metallic Sri-Coat Lariat Lightning is scheduled to be built the week of June 13th, 2022 and I also went with the w/Bigger Battery Pack; Tow Technology and Max Trailer Tow Packages for $81+K (I've been a fan of BedRug in our last few trucks). I know I say it all the time how much I love your reviews. And everyone I tell to watch or check out your channels...I joke that you are like my brother from another mother. ha ha 😇 But seriously you really do help me "feel" more "sane" how you notice every single lil' detail that I've noticed myself after either having owned 33 personal vehicles over the many years, or also having been in weekly rental vehicles from past convention traveling. 🤪 Thanks again for all you do!!! Secondly...when I'd first signed up (day of announcement)...my very patient wife the next day was like, "why don't you sign up to get two". She is like MasterCard Commercial...Priceless, as she does a great job of putting up with me!!!. But anyway, my two (2) "Reservation Numbers" are 12,424 apart. So again Ford let me know I made "the cut" for 2022 for the one that's being built the week of June 13th. BUT also, Ford has emailed me that my 2nd "Reservation Number" will NOT even be able to Order until 2023 and that also reservations are filled for the next two (2) years. So that's the email I got, regarding all that...hope that is not too discouraging for others. 🤔

@jcritter9295 2 жыл бұрын

I want the base model extended range but of course you have to be a contractor to get that.

@mountainhobo 2 жыл бұрын

I can see this truck in its Pro trim as being popular with city-bound tradesmen, but not allowing the extended range battery on the Pro trim in the US for individual customers seems capricious.

@Miata822 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, a 2-door cab and 8 foot bed would be great, but it is hard to find any truck like that today, gas, diesel, or EV. Still looking for the first F-150 Lightning review that doesn't say "OMG this thing is Great!" Must be a good truck 🙂

@cs1992 2 жыл бұрын

PHEVs make more sense for my needs

@damilolaakanni 2 жыл бұрын

I think Ford did well by placing the charge port in front and not where the fuel tank would have been in the ICE F-150. It would have made it difficult to reverse into the charging station with that 5 ft. bed.

@rustbeltrobclassic2512 2 жыл бұрын

Trust me after daily driving a full sized truck like this every day in tight city area’s, it’s far easier to back into places than pull forward.

@plmn93 2 жыл бұрын

@@rustbeltrobclassic2512 I agree, I even back into my garage, but most poeple don't back into spaces. Most people are going to want it on front. Maybe we would be able to get a longer cable, lol.

@BruceDragon-sf1tr 2 жыл бұрын

Beautiful Truck

@PeaceChanel 2 жыл бұрын

Peace.. Shalom.. Salam.. Namaste and Thank You for All your efforts to support this Great Cause 🙏🏻 😊 🌈 ✌ 🌷 ☮️ ❤️

@allpar300m6 2 жыл бұрын

I'm more of a Mopar or no car type of guy. But i must say ,Ford hit a home run with this truck👍

@ThatGuy-cn2qv 2 жыл бұрын

If I could get the $40k one toward the end of '23 I think I'd go for it. (Yes, I'm one of those people that get the base version with nothing extra. I've learned over the years that it's more stuff to break and I don't need any of it.) Looks like it may be a pretty slim chance for coming up with a Pro version though.

@phileasler5401 2 жыл бұрын

I getting a Lightning Pro this summer for $47K loaded

@rsdwall466 2 жыл бұрын

Dealership is going to add exorbitant markups probably

@ThatGuy-cn2qv 2 жыл бұрын

@@phileasler5401 Grats on getting one. I'm sure it will do a great job for you. And ya, I hope you have a good dealer that won't try to rip you at the last second. Most of the ones in my area aren't doing that crap. Just Corwin Ford down in Springfield Mo as far as I can see. They're super bad and people should stay FAR away.

@phileasler5401 2 жыл бұрын

@@ThatGuy-cn2qv ford is going online only for their electric vehicles soon called model E I believe all at msrp

@jonmarshall3414 2 жыл бұрын

@@rsdwall466 ford is punishing dealers for marking up customer orders for lighting and made it easy to transfer reservations to other dealers if they tried too. Not too hard to find dealers that will do orders for MSRP.

@Allcarnews 2 жыл бұрын

Can’t unsee the gap in the LED signature lights up front 🙈

@jeromep3182 2 жыл бұрын

You gotta loveAlex for the details

@JuanCarlosLTO 2 жыл бұрын

Great review! I think this is the E truck to beat for all the reasons mentioned by Alex. The vertical screen is counter intuitive though. It’s a huge distractor and puts some information and controls way below the line of sight vs a horizontal one, not no mention the display dysfunction of no theater mode. Another thing I also love about the Lighting is that it has the classic truck look vs trying to make it look futuristic etc.

@normt430 2 жыл бұрын

That's why Silverado EV is coming next year and redesign Lightning in 2025 on TE1 platform. This is a modified F-150 platform where GM Silverado EV BT1 is a EV from ground up next year. Wait for Ford 2025 redesign. The Ford F-150 Lightning is already being promised a redesign for the 2025 model year. Reuters mentioned this when discussing Ford’s production plans for the Lightning.

@EuroYXX 2 жыл бұрын

Truck Yeah! LOL. Great choice Alex!

@therealcdnuser 2 жыл бұрын

Finally decided to get the Lighting then dealer said all sold out. Not taking any further orders at this time. Should have better luck next year as production ramps up (hopefully).

@mattbrew11 2 жыл бұрын

Ive got ten coming for my solar business. Wish id ordered 40

@curteye22 Жыл бұрын

Love the side note, “in case you’re wondering you CAN do donuts in your F150 Lightning…”

@BryanSeigneur0 2 жыл бұрын

11:30 If Ford *REALLY* wanted us to use the area more effectively, they'd put the shifter onto the dash!!!!! Grandiose shifters are a giant waste of real estate. I'd really appreciate more OEMs going back to the future and putting in middle front seats. Cups and compartments can be in the seat back when folded down.

@plmn93 2 жыл бұрын

I'm a column shifter fan. Ford's solution is overcomplicated, just another thing to break at some point.

@jghall00 2 жыл бұрын

I would prefer a rotary knob on the dash, like the backup controller. Need more cupholders and storage up front.

@02hreblue30 2 жыл бұрын

@@plmn93 JUST HELL NO

@donhill1825 2 жыл бұрын

This is the EV I would buy...Used in a few years.

@vincenm0216 2 жыл бұрын

Where do The window washing fluid go do It have any

@ejd1984 2 жыл бұрын

Chevrolet says the Silverado EV WT work truck model will arrive in Spring 2023 at $39,900, while the fully-loaded RST First Edition will land in Fall 2023. More trim levels will arrive as production ramps.

@zschudrowitz155 2 жыл бұрын

Woohoo! San Antonio!

@Chidoro41 2 жыл бұрын

They really hit a home run on this one. Shame you’ll never be able to purchase it for a couple of years .

@normt430 2 жыл бұрын

@TheGizmoGarage 2 жыл бұрын

I think Alex just convinced me to get a F150 lightning when my Honda Clarity retires

@rustbeltrobclassic2512 2 жыл бұрын

How many Honda clarity’s can you buy for 81k?

@TheGizmoGarage 2 жыл бұрын

@@rustbeltrobclassic2512 At least 3 :'(

@rustbeltrobclassic2512 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheGizmoGarage That's a lot of gas.. or deliveries.. or hired workers for a year salary to do whatever you are bringing home from home depot.. LOL..

@vroooom 2 жыл бұрын

They’re going to sell so many of these.

@TheGerm24 2 жыл бұрын

I definitely think supply will be the problem instead of demand. I personally want a full EV minivan, but I can see the appeal of this truck.

@Bigbillyrayfan 2 жыл бұрын

Cool. Not sure 5.5’ bed is perfectly practical.

@pstoneking3418 2 жыл бұрын

I did an entire city driving for 30 miles and achieved 3.3 miles per kWh. So speed definitely effects mileage range. Also I wasn't trying to test how much power it has.

@TrainsFerriesFeet 2 жыл бұрын

Great review, Alex, and this appears to be a great truck. I don't need a truck, but I do think EVs with bi-directional charging will have a big leg up on those that don't. I'm considering an Ioniq 5 or EV60 and that is what leaned me in that direction.

@brucedaar 2 жыл бұрын

Where do you charge and how do you charge when you have an attached load? Won't fit into any charging sight. Would have to detach the load.

@WazZappening 2 жыл бұрын

Please get a Lightning and would love to see it's use as a battery back-up to your house and daily use. You live the off grid life I would like to do someday lol.

@eaz54 2 жыл бұрын

2:36 Why he gotta add the twitching limbs though? 😂

@dwayned.5238 2 жыл бұрын

Credit to Rivian, which tows 11,000 lbs (compare to 10,000 lbs of this model) and 1,700 lbs payload (compare to 2,200 lbs of this model). That’s a big ear for a truck barely bigger than a Taco.

@mikecalderon7992 2 жыл бұрын

Can you link the page on the EPA website to adjust the numbers?

@andik2329 2 жыл бұрын

I would like the pro with a big battery.

@ktl2001 2 жыл бұрын

Need to make a bench version to carry 6 people :).

@imranabbasi7871 2 жыл бұрын

Good luck 👍

@robsimpson1434 2 жыл бұрын

What color was your truck? It looks like it could be the smoked quartz or the anti-matter blue.

@goldvideo 2 жыл бұрын

14:12 Alex decides to take a breath.

@bahamatodd 2 жыл бұрын

The Silverado EV WT trim will be the first version available in Spring 2023

@AAutoBuyersGuide 2 жыл бұрын

It's a odd roll out with GM. The base base model will be Spring 2023, RST with a $105K price tag will be next in "fall of 2023" and at a yet to be announced time the other trims between $50-80K MSRP will roll out in 2024+

@GHinWI 2 жыл бұрын

No wonder tesla are afraid to show/release their truck.

@twosawyers 2 жыл бұрын

This is the best EV deal on the planet!

@JBM425 2 жыл бұрын

Can we say that Ford has been knocking it out of the park lately (and not just with EVs)? Bronco, Maverick, Mustang MachE, and now the Lightning. Your move, GM and Stellantis.

@dretech 2 жыл бұрын

Will there be 6 people configuration coming out soon?

@johnelwood712 2 жыл бұрын

GREAT VIDEO, ALEX! WHAT COLOR IS THAT? SORRY IF YOU ALREADY STATED THAT AND I MISSED IT. i THINK I KNOW WHAT COLOR IT IS BUT WANT TO CONFIRM. THANKS!

@LuvADuc 2 жыл бұрын

LOL. Someone had to stop at Burger King according to the nav screen.

@bowlingbrawn3063 2 жыл бұрын

Nice video! Is there a cover that is offered for the bed?

@AAutoBuyersGuide 2 жыл бұрын

Not from Ford, but there will be plenty of aftermarket options.

@brucedaar 2 жыл бұрын

80% less range on certain load towing??? That brings the range down to about 50 miles range per charge. Gonna wait for cybertruck.

@stanmorgal1775 Жыл бұрын

Supercab available?

@greghilt8492 2 жыл бұрын

Alex, I don't know why you don't bring a dBU meter and a Satellite speedometer to gain most of these figures so you don't have to do these things twice. Seems like you could gain some efficiency with full reviews quicker by leveraging some technology.

@AAutoBuyersGuide 2 жыл бұрын

The issue is you couldn't compare those numbers to the testing I do at more similar temps, the same altitude and road surface as the other numbers.

@vincemcsenile7318 2 жыл бұрын

Under 40k. .... $39,975..... okay Fed credit, $7500 ok Dealer fed credit adjustment +$7500 + Dealers market markup fee +$20,000 $40k isn't 40K with vehicles anymore. Just going to wait for the looming recession and the auto industry to collapse I guess. My cars are running fine but I could use a more modern one, but with the way dealers have been treating its customers, its like having demand isn't good enough for them. They have to gouge prices and when you simply discuss it with them, they act pretentious about it all. Well what goes around comes around.

@themandalorian9934 2 жыл бұрын

This is the way.

@barretwallace4176 2 жыл бұрын

Is there no law that prevents these dealers from this? I mean its not like when iphones are sold out, best buy or target doesn't then double the price because of market demand. Its not like apple even has to do that, and they're still a 2 trillion dollar company that could buy Ford a dozen times over give a take. Without harming its customers.

@thehumaneye1 2 жыл бұрын

@@barretwallace4176 look, dealers don't give a shit about their customers, not 2 shits, not 1 shit, not any shits. Manufacturers would NEVER ever want to adopt having to deal with hundreds of thousands to millions of their customers directly. They like having dealers to filter all of that so they don't have to. Besides they make dealers buy a certain amount of vehicles, and they can't really pick it choose, they have all have floor plan they have to follow or else they'll find the next schill dealer who's willing. I'd love if it was different, but car buy experience, and overall car ownership experience is pretty bad. since I visited overseas where owning a vehicle isn't a complete necessity and they cater to actually NOT owning a vehicle, it makes a difference. But US is different, especially Texas, where you can only walk around your neighborhood and anywhere else you better be driving, or be driven over.

@damilolaakanni 2 жыл бұрын

That's $59,975...almost $60k for the base model. Imagine how much the top trim would cost with the same markups.

@fhblake04 2 жыл бұрын

@@barretwallace4176 a lot of states have laws that benefit dealers. Ford is working on selling electric vehicles direct to consumers. We’ll see if that comes to fruition. If successful, and GM follows, I could see dealers finally backing off some markups.

@damnjustassignmeone Жыл бұрын

I’d get one if I could get one.

@professerjeeves 2 жыл бұрын

I would bet more like a 2/3 reduction in range. So, more like a 100 miles when towing w/ big battery.

@kevinpenfold1116 2 жыл бұрын

Interesting. Would be curious to see the math on that.

@jacobscheer2730 2 жыл бұрын

What do you mean when you say that there isn't a frame in the Rivian? I thought the Rivian has a ladder frame, and that difference being it is bonded to the rest of the body vs being soft mounted like the lightning...

@AAutoBuyersGuide 2 жыл бұрын

The moment it’s bonded to the body it’s no longer a frame, it’s a unibody

@PaulBailey3 2 жыл бұрын

Do you think the XLT ER is a bad value?