Forgotten Uniques: Fated End

Forgotten Uniques: Fated End | Path of Exile

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Fated End was added in Path of Exile 3.12 Heist league as part of an overhaul and new system introduction to self-cast curses: Doom. The Doom mechanic didn't last too long before it was axed in patch 3.20, and Fated End was changed to mostly replicate its function, albeit without the existence of Doom. This ring can provide an incredible amount of curse effect, proving a very efficient boost to damage, especially early on in a league lifecycle, while the item also has some interesting implications for self-curse Temporal Chains.
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0:00 Introduction
0:37 History & Doom Mechanic
1:40 Modifiers
1:53 20% Inc Effect per second
2:30 Expiry upon % Base Effect
2:52 Basic Example
3:48 Curse Effect gained over time
4:33 All sources of curse effect apply
5:04 Effectiveness & multiple curses
5:49 Temporal Chains & expiry rate
8:12 Applying multiple curses
10:00 Hex Master
10:48 Hex Master & Bane
11:15 Self-Curse Temporal Chains
16:01 Why isn't it used?

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@dreamcore_gg 29 күн бұрын

This was a fun one to put together - hope you all enjoy!

@ill3815 28 күн бұрын

Liked the vid, but the question remains: does it work with doedre`s skin? nvm, forgot about Anathema

@dreamcore_gg 28 күн бұрын

@@ill3815 Doedre's Skin no because the curses are supported by blasphemy, making them curse-auras

@mr_macpop 28 күн бұрын

You’re the intellectual among the creators here 🤓 and that’s great 🎉

@Puffnir 27 күн бұрын

Hope to see, "The Goddess Scorned - unique elegant sword" next

@aer0 29 күн бұрын

This one has me quite inspired to get in the lab and make use of this unique. Thanks DC!

@Lardbutt200 28 күн бұрын

Stare

@DaJodad 29 күн бұрын

I been checking back here every day for a new video, these are incredible!

@Tenosyn 29 күн бұрын

I feel like you could go the opposite direction, getting a min-roll Fated End and stack curse effect to get it to expire fast and proc an impending doom.

@dreamcore_gg 29 күн бұрын

You could do that yep, ideally with 1% base effect missing so it instantly triggers

@ArawnOfAnnwn 28 күн бұрын

@@dreamcore_gg Also there's a curse mastery which restores 1% of hp and mana when cursing a non-cursed enemy, so you get rapid healing too!

@Sol0666 27 күн бұрын

@@dreamcore_ggwhat would the missing 1% base curse effect do exactly. I cant put it together in my head. And is there even a way to do that?

@card425 27 күн бұрын

@@Sol0666 missing just 1% means that the curse would expire after a single tick because it would reach the limit of 200%

@Sol0666 26 күн бұрын

@@card425 I dont get the math behind that.

@n8doggy733 29 күн бұрын

stacking curse effect for Punishment seems like a meme-worthy build

@dogden95 29 күн бұрын

I bet it rips hard

@Nimroc 29 күн бұрын

For Bane it is worth considering that it does provide 20% increased effect from quality, so you do kind of have a choice of going without quality for a bit longer duration, or having quality and starting from 90% base effect instead of 75%. The thing I've always liked with Bane though for casting curses is the curses don't have a cost when cast that way, you just have the cost of Bane itself and the curses doesn't apply any cost multiplier to it. So you can triple curse using just the mana cost of a 1-link Bane.

@JungzYT 29 күн бұрын

Another cool aspect I was hoping you would bring up is using it in conjunction with impending doom. You could get your curse effect high enough to "auto pop" which could be a cool alternative to the vixen entrapment gloves

@_Titanium_ 18 күн бұрын

Another source of action speed mitigation is the Balance of Terror: Action Speed cannot be Slowed below Base Value if you've cast Temporal Chains in the past 10 seconds

@maryjones104 28 күн бұрын

This is really cool! I'll have to check out some more of these videos, they have a nice production quality, I enjoy the focus on lesser-used uniques, and the skyrim music hits the nostalgia perfectly :D

@max417481 29 күн бұрын

Always amazed by this series of yours keep up the outstanding work tyvm

@jeromebueltjer8104 28 күн бұрын

Probably the only "real" build that can use this is Impending Doom Scion, Where you get your curse cast speed in line with ID base cd (0.15) or decrease that to ~0.1 with cdr stat for 10 casts second max Then stack up curse effect from ascendant occu and tree and gear, so that expiry time is less than cd. This may be easier to reach on a low roll Fated End, so pick your poison. Its also very notable here that ID hits with the curse still counting as applied, so using a L20 Despair will let you hit with 200% Effect Despair.

@leprifacioncustard4921 29 күн бұрын

I love these deep dives into older uniques!

@MrJaldal 29 күн бұрын

Man, u are going hard on these ! I really enjoy them ! Keep them coming :)

@dreamcore_gg 28 күн бұрын

They're a lot of work but fun to put together, glad you're enjoying them!

@Rob-147 28 күн бұрын

Your knowledge of this game never ceases to amaze me. Great video

@HastyFury 29 күн бұрын

love the guild wars music on these videos

@dreamcore_gg 29 күн бұрын

It's a great OST!

@otz6408 29 күн бұрын

How could it be forgotten when i have never seen it in my life xD jeez, looks fun though

@jomac2409 28 күн бұрын

Great series!!

@darkfanther 29 күн бұрын

i love this series. please more

@beng.3122 29 күн бұрын

Fated end is also really fun to use for poison inpending Doom builds

@Moritz_269 19 күн бұрын

theres also the balance of terror for temporal chains that gives you the action speed cannot be slowed below base value modifier

@AutoTauri 29 күн бұрын

Worth consideration I think for this series purely as a slept on levelling unique that can carry from act 3 on, Chalice of Horrors, just self cast despair and the decay from the shield will do the rest Edit: you can pair it with this ring since it also has low level requirements

@BrennanFalknerDev 29 күн бұрын

I didn't check the specifics with this scenario, but the temp chains increase sounds like a natural log which will tend towards e or ~2.7

@schw3i 29 күн бұрын

how does it interact with Asenath's Gentle Touch's "Non-Aura Curses you inflict are not removed from dying enemies"? I assume it's similar to Hex Master?

@DreamGamingS2 29 күн бұрын

That mod doesn't have any relevance

@dreamcore_gg 28 күн бұрын

I haven't tested this but it's very likely that the curses on dying enemies will also expire at the base effect threshold

@BeastMaster629 8 күн бұрын

You would want to use this ring for bossing. Most effective bossing builds have enough damage to finish bosses within the 5 second duration.

@mikewood8815 29 күн бұрын

thanks for another great video. I am enjoying these looking at unique series

@chandlergordon8878 29 күн бұрын

there has got to be some way to combine its countdown increased curse effect with bane to yield a massive explosion. i don't play curses enough to know how, but the pairing seems so natural.

@TQP-Tukolpka 29 күн бұрын

Hey there, enjoy your vids, Is there any forgotten unique item for meelee bulds ?

@dreamcore_gg 28 күн бұрын

Glad you're enjoying them! There are many many uniques that aren't used much, some like this ring which aren't really specific to melee/caster etc. I'm sure there are some more melee focused ones though, perhaps I'll get around to a few in this series

@TQP-Tukolpka 28 күн бұрын

@@dreamcore_gg Thank you :D

@ansonfok7271 28 күн бұрын

Please make a series of best unique in the past

@Kukri63 29 күн бұрын

Oh i wanna hop into the league again to play poison penance brand with this ring and zizs gloves, it should be such a cool concept btw isnt there a truly utility bane without less curse eff novadays? Its with very small aoe or smth

@josiprakic4872 29 күн бұрын

YES

@gremiocopeiro83 29 күн бұрын

What happens if you have, like 100% increased effect of curses, not couting the ring? Would you apply the curse and it would expire instantly or the curse would not get applied?

@LarpingAsALarper 29 күн бұрын

This is the kind of series i fucking love.

@TraxisOnTheLines 28 күн бұрын

Completely opposite the previous few, I've never tried to use this and never thought about it. This will be an entertaining 17 minutes :)

@erwrwer8695 28 күн бұрын

what about impedning doom scale ur curseeffect to 200% for insta pops?

@emanuelalves3786 28 күн бұрын

Talking about itens introduced in heist league, i would love if the "font of thunder" get a buff to 50% cold and fire taken as light, instead of the actual 40%. This ill allow use it with corrupted soul timeless, to conv all elemental to light and chaos, similar to the mahuxtol+ tempered by war combo. Tbh my dream it's a way to conv 100% dam take to the elem of your choice, since rn we can just 100% conv to fire (timeless + sublime vision+ dawnbreaker), more perfect yet if we make any element be associated to one base Def phys>fire, cold>Eva, light>ES

@Kloista 29 күн бұрын

you can also scale curse effect to instant expire impending doom. despair quality gives curse effect so it's actually not that hard. i pob'd a build with 12 triggers and it has 200m dps i just dont have defences lol

@MrS5x 29 күн бұрын

nice, can you share you pob, want to try to make it a build.

@Kloista 29 күн бұрын

@@MrS5x here you go pobb in/nWTrz4QJmXwS

@Kloista 29 күн бұрын

i was testing levels with and without shako thats why it doesnt have anything on it edit: my comment was removed i guess? /KSmlEibmoqJm

@TR1D0M 28 күн бұрын

i see the best interaction in Impending doom setup. Lets say you link it to Despair and curse your enemies once and wait... tick tick tick. Boom. To get to explosion faster. you can improve your "starting" point by taking curse effect. lets say you take occultist and all curse effect nodes. it will make it 50% starting curse effect and you gear 2x Fated End. then it gets to 90% at first second and to 210 at 4 second. If your Fated End roll is 209 or less. it will explode after 4 seconds. else, after 5 seconds. Base Damage of Impending doom is very high. and it stacks to great numbers with +to gem levels. A lvl 25 Despair with 210 effect. will give -100% Chaos resistance to the enemy it explodes on... this will also create an unique playstyle where you just apply a curse once and "kite" until it explodes. Further Curses can be applied via vixens for defense like temp chain, enfeeble, punishment. If combined with Poison chance, Impending doom will leave a huge poison on enemies it was not able to kill. and Profane bloom will take care of "spreading" generic chance to poison and chance to poison on hit also apply to profane bloom, making it capable of poisoning. But this is pretty niche and very different from zoom zoom meta.

@ill3815 28 күн бұрын

it`s 210% of base, not 210% increased effect => 110% increased curse effect

@kl2999 28 күн бұрын

Didnt even know this exist!!!

@utfanx2 28 күн бұрын

Trigger a socketed spell on using a skill, with a 4 second cooldown.

@ILikeGuns1992 27 күн бұрын

So basically just self-cast curse with that ring is the play? As soon as curse expires effect of curses expire as well so it's something like 100% increased effect of curse on average? Sounds particulary powerful for poison builds, but not so much for other builds. I wonder what are ways to automate curse application for maximum efficiency while not having to manage it yourself? No longer using Tota music :/

@erikh122 28 күн бұрын

Is there skyrim music being played in the background?

@dreamcore_gg 28 күн бұрын

Guild Wars 2 OST, the track is 'A Land Restored'. It's the same composer as Skyrim though

@bhwung 29 күн бұрын

Loved your analysis. I briefly used this item + curse effect tats in ToTA on my zhp CC slow/knockback build and basically reduced their action speed to 0. Super powerful item but has serious limitations in regular content

@xXVintersorgXx 29 күн бұрын

I think the issue with curse items is not that they aren't good.. it's that people don't fully understand curses and curse effect. And that in game doesn't explain it at all. Also inverting is a thing now

@SweebyMignonne 29 күн бұрын

With a low rolled fated end and picked up 80%+ curse effect would that make impending doom auto-pop?l Due to immediately expiring？

@dreamcore_gg 29 күн бұрын

I haven't tried it having more curse effect than the base roll but you could get a +1% difference so that it triggers almost instantly upon cast

@paradcxgreen1167 28 күн бұрын

Yes, this is how I play imp doom after cascade change.

@SweebyMignonne 28 күн бұрын

@@paradcxgreen1167 ya thats why i was wondering since impending doom has been one of my favorite builds was saddening by the cascade change

@zaggedout 29 күн бұрын

Instant like.

@blazewagon5677 28 күн бұрын

I almost made a fated end impending doom build :)

@renediffie 28 күн бұрын

With most content creators being solely focused on the meta, this series is a breath of fresh air. Great content.

@ainzooalgown9952 28 күн бұрын

take a shot every time he says curse effect

@dreamcore_gg 28 күн бұрын

👀

@hastaare 28 күн бұрын

Was using it for a while in my cheap starter Bane build, but after GGG moved Viridi's Veil drop to Uber Maven this ring become worthless to me, since Fated End effect works on you too if it was reflected, any rare monster with ability to reflect spells will make your life misarable, and belive me being under 5 curses that become stronger every second not fun at all~

@pixelj4877 29 күн бұрын

Hmm..Anathema + Fated End? I've never considered it before but this gives me ideas for theory crafting. I completely forgot Fated End existed. This video series is great :)

@dogden95 29 күн бұрын

I have a Ph.D. in computational chemistry and you make me feel dumb

@amitfrishberg5863 28 күн бұрын

What about skitterbots with their unique ring?

@dreamcore_gg 28 күн бұрын

The curse becomes an aura, so it doesn't work

@XodiaqKey 28 күн бұрын

How would this work if used with super high gem quality on Bane? According to my math, I could manage 139% Gem quality

@dreamcore_gg 28 күн бұрын

It would lower the ramp time(duration of curse) but the curse would have a high effect starting point. Unless you're doing something with impending doom I'd recommend not investing anything extra into curse effect as it means you need to reapply curses more often

@XodiaqKey 28 күн бұрын

@@dreamcore_gg I suppose I was just thinking about it in terms of maximizing how far certain curses could go. Like the elemental curses for example. I'd be curious to see how much -enemy res a single curse could cause

@dreamcore_gg 28 күн бұрын

@@XodiaqKey There are probably ways to reach much more curse effect than Fated End's maxium(120%) if you stack from a bunch of sources. The tree alone can yield 60%, occu/scion occu grants another 10%. I haven't looked into how much is possible, but it's going to be a lot more than 120%

@GE_Photon_Lord 29 күн бұрын

It's pretty broken on the new cold dot. I used it this league to cheat the damage of a mirror tier ring ( fated end actually does a bit more damage than that, plus % int gives more es than flat es on my trickster, plus eventual corruptions that pump damage even more). Also, I didnt watch the video, but Im also using in order to play bane ( which is QoL -> press 1 button to cast 2 curses without penalty, less mana cost ). Plus, which is kinda crazy, im also using it to make the curse duration around 5 seconds ( makes the blind from curse mastery 100% consistent pretty much ).

@ingoverhulst 29 күн бұрын

Sounds like something I'd need a POB for. Mind sharing it with us plebs? The idea sounds cool as hell to me.

@GE_Photon_Lord 29 күн бұрын

@@ingoverhulst You dont need a PoB to play cold dot, this is a build that works on full rare gear. You can cheat damage temporarily using replica dragonfang's flight with +3 frost blades and cane of kulemak. Or this ring. That's it...

@HazyLooks 29 күн бұрын

Fourth!

@wolvie90 27 күн бұрын

The whole "doom" thing just shows conditional time sensitive buffs is something no player want's to engage with. This ring is just wrong in every aspect. Compared to Anathema, it's harder to acquire, harder to use and provides overall less power for the investment in most cases. Why would anyone engage with that? This is an item designed for another game. I bet this ring fits really neatly into PoE2.