Forgotten Uniques: Replica Nebulis

Forgotten Uniques: Replica Nebulis | Path of Exile

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Replica Nebulis was added to Path of Exile in patch 3.12 Heist league as part of the exclusive loot found at the end of Grand Heist blueprints. This unique sceptre incentivises maintaining fire and cold resistances below their maximum cap in order to gain a large amount of increased damage. This anti-synergy with scaling defenses is the main reason that Replica Nebulis is rarely used, but how else can you utilise this unique?
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0:00 Introduction
0:18 Replica Nebulis
0:42 Increased Cast Speed
0:58 Damage Per Missing Resistance
1:27 Example Damage Gained
2:04 Incentivize Uncapped Resistance
2:20 Amount of Missing Resistance Required
2:45 Global Cap
3:07 Offense Scaling
3:26 Ignite
4:10 Damage Conversion Chain
5:24 Enabling Replica Nebulis
5:41 Example Resistance Calculation
6:18 Scaling Maximum Resistances Example
7:28 Damage Taken As Setup
8:30 Armour Application & Maximum Resistance
9:28 The Flawed Refuge
9:55 Why isn't it used?

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@dreamcore_gg 19 күн бұрын

3.25 still so far away 💀💀💀

@itacheey2770 19 күн бұрын

That means more episodes of Forgotten Uniques! I hope this series stays after 3.25 launch.

@dreamcore_gg 19 күн бұрын

@@itacheey2770 I'll do the usual new uniques/league coverage but I intend to keep the forgotten uniques series going beyond 3.25 as long as there's some items that I want to talk about

@abyssgamer7836 19 күн бұрын

Maybe CW want to play elden ring dlc :)

@billplates5255 19 күн бұрын

With how far away 3.25 is and how far away the PoE2 beta is, I am STRUGGLING right now.

@MWaever 19 күн бұрын

Thankfully there are plenty of forgotten uniques to talk about until then!

@riceoflife 19 күн бұрын

Wake up babe, a new dreamcore vid just dropped

@AtlasGcx 19 күн бұрын

I often imagine if this is cold+lightning instead of cold+fire. Cold+lightning means you can go tempered by war route and would be very synergistic

@rexess5979 19 күн бұрын

I like the unique text below replica Nebulis. It nicely tells you what to equip :D

@ArawnOfAnnwn 19 күн бұрын

Another item to keep in mind to add to this setup is the Cowl of the Ceraunophile. It gives you two more annoint options, but most importantly takes care of your lightning resistance - you literally don't need to get any resistance apart from chaos res on your gear or tree, except however much you decide to invest into cold and fire resistance to mitigate the remaining 10% of their damage types that you're still taking as cold and fire. It makes your gearing incredibly easier as your suffixes are now free to grab anything else you might want. The fixed lightning res provided by it is also not affected by any curses or other resistance reductions (apart from max resist). This is probably not worth it, but if you really want to shift the remaining 10% as well, you can use the Purity of Lightning version of Sublime Vision jewel.

@sirannonable 18 күн бұрын

It’s not affected by max red either

@ArawnOfAnnwn 18 күн бұрын

@@sirannonable It is. If you enter a map with a -max res mod, your max lightning res will still be cut by that amount. So even though your raw lightning res is 75, it'll still be capped by the lower max res amount.

@duddybrainzz 19 күн бұрын

This used to be used in deep delve with zhp icicle miners. The limitation of a cap was added later, initially it was uncapped and people would stack -20% all res thread of hopes.

@djpoe7394 19 күн бұрын

I think they nerfed replica nebulis before the delve rework. now that you actually need defences for deep delve they could probably revert it back to its original iteration and it could at least be used for sanctum or bossing builds.

@duddybrainzz 11 күн бұрын

@@djpoe7394 Yeah - That's correct, zhp delving isnt a thing anymore. Before the delve rework zhp icicle mines and tornado shot (dex stacking) were both high end deep delve builds. I don't think this item got much use outside of the zhp icicle mine build if I remember correctly.

@MrJaldal 19 күн бұрын

At this rate, we are through with like 75% of them before 3.25 drops xD

@leprifacioncustard4921 19 күн бұрын

Nah there's like a million uniques and only a few uniques that are not forgotten

@vbaldokaizen8748 19 күн бұрын

Even though I played heist, I was a bit new back then, but knew about this item because you briefly mentioned it in one of your recent videos. I thought it was fascinating and did a pob around it. I ended up doing an ice trap trickster with mahuxotl, the ultimatum shield. It had avatar of fire and cold to fire support, trickster has ES leech + instant leech and the shield gives you max ele res which is good for the "missing resistance" condition.

@federicociammaruconi4657 19 күн бұрын

Was thinking the same thing, maybe combined with incandescent heart for even more mitigation? In this way you can also scale up a lot of ele DMG to chaos and wouldn't need to invest so much into defences Probably something like a lightpoacher as helmet?

@TraxisOnTheLines 18 күн бұрын

Honestly, Font of Thunder got me thinking more about builds than the Replica did, but they definitely go hand in hand if you can make them work.

@patrykpiasecki8562 19 күн бұрын

yooo this could work nicely for my frostlbink elementalist, might have to give this thing a try! Love these videos man, You do a great job at explaining everything!

@Tirinir 19 күн бұрын

You should also keep in mind that current and max resistances are easily modified by curses, auras, flasks, shrines, exposure, unique boss effects etc. Replica Nebulis build can lose most of its damage randomly. With normal Nebulis, the number of sources is much smaller. You can use Replica Nebulis in a zhp build. Might be viable in SC for some boss blasting.

@Sol0666 18 күн бұрын

I dont think that is true, how many things randomly give you additional resistance, which would be the only thing that reduces your damage? Pretty much only the one shrine which is super easily avoidable. And for max resistance I think only the one map mod reduces that right?

@tamasfreiberger1184 18 күн бұрын

Incandescent Heart is important to mention here, it closes the 10% gap so that no fire or cold damage is taken from hits. The 10% remaining dot damage can still be mitigated by 60%+ res and other defences against dot dmg and therefore should be fairly easy to outheal

@dreamcore_gg 18 күн бұрын

Using Incandescent Heart with DF + Font will make you take 15% more damage than the base hit when hit with fire or cold damage (75% as chaos, 40% as lightning) because damage taken as modifiers do not scale down past 100% like damage conversion

@connerammons7651 16 күн бұрын

I'm rocking this with Doppelganger body armour and the flawed refuge set up, feels SUPER tanky with real good damage

@The_Engi 19 күн бұрын

Yay new video

@meydorn 19 күн бұрын

I use this in a build in standard, using divine flesh and an incandescent heart. It works pretty well as the main way the build deals damage is via the scourge % of life as fire damage when hit mod. Replica nebulis is a great way to scale that kind og fire damage.

@CouchOwner2 19 күн бұрын

is there any way to trigger a self-curse (elemental weakness) on-cast to lower your resistances, give you the buffs of the sceptre, your spell cast goes off with the buffs, and then either cleanse your own curse (manual flasks could but that's laborious) or just have the self-curse duration be incredibly short so the curse is effectively only around when you want it (buff damage) but not around when the enemy attacks (hopefully). You're playing a DoT build so you're only vulnerable every few seconds for hopefully a very short duration if it all works out. you could Instilling orb a curse-cleanse flask with "used when you hit a rare or unique enemy" to effectively make the self-curse window very small and guarantee the buffs are present for the relevant calculation timings right? the flask duration could be tunable to be around the duration of the ignite so you don't potentially stay curse-immune for longer than the ignite duration.

@dreamcore_gg 19 күн бұрын

This could work but I think it would be quite awkward of a playstyle

@e56hdyhdfgh 19 күн бұрын

When these were new, I managed to snag 2 of them in heist with little effort, sold both to fund the rest of my league.

@Saskobest 19 күн бұрын

i am not sure if i remember correctly, i seem to remember that eyes of the greatwolf had some damage shifting modifiers?

@dreamcore_gg 19 күн бұрын

It has yes, as do Talismans but they are only for hits

@ArawnOfAnnwn 19 күн бұрын

Those are usually sought after by Doryani's Prototype builds, albeit only the ones that shift 100% of lightning damage away. So you're free to go after the cold or fire damage shift ones, however keep in mind that it'll only have one of them so the other damage type is still a problem (the chances of getting both mods on one Greatwolf talisman is basically non-existent). Also as said above, it only applies to hits, and there's a lot of cold and fire damage over time in the game (unlike for lightning damage).

@luc_xott 19 күн бұрын

I remember using these on my cold to fire icicle miner years ago

@TheJoystickmonkey 17 күн бұрын

Great item but kinda conflicts with what people normally want to do with raising their resistance. Most people invest in a setup of raising their cap for defense/recovery, but if you make the person raise their resist and stay at 75, they wouldn't get the defensive benefits and still would be investing/locked into a raise cap setupj

@ILikeGuns1992 18 күн бұрын

IIRC people dual wielded those back in the day. Are you sure they don't stack with each other? People built glass cannon character with it in the past.

@mrghostmrghost6469 19 күн бұрын

i just thought of another way to deal with lower resistances , oooooo its gonna be nasty and super tanky , might do it as my next league starter ,

@wigmanmania259 19 күн бұрын

So... it kinda feels like a normal Nebulis, but worse in every way Less resistances instead of more, damage capped so no dual wielding, and no synthesized implicits The only real positive seems to be being able to inflict chunky ignites by scaling cold damage

@dreamcore_gg 19 күн бұрын

Yeah in general it is a LOT worse than the normal Nebulis, different build entirely but still, comparatively a lot worse

@Ajoscram 19 күн бұрын

I believe you missed PoL sublime vision for 30% shift. That being said, I can't find a way to pad out the remaining 20% if one were to take that instead of the shield. If only Font of Thunder were 50%, what a shame

@dreamcore_gg 19 күн бұрын

Yeah Sublime Vision for PoL is just worse as it leaves 20% unaccounted for, while using it together with Font of Thunder and Divine Flesh would make you take more damage than the originating hit damage (120% fire/cold taken as)

@paveljanik9970 19 күн бұрын

if it only was cold and lightning instead of fire and cold, you could use sublime vision and exarch shield and ignore them both while having 600% increased dmg for free. but if you use it this way right now, you only get 300%, which is nice but over all not enough to compete with other better scepters or wands.

@wessellrustbrook7831 18 күн бұрын

I have a question, what if your totems cast this instead of you, will the totems get the benefits if the totems resistance is 60%? It doesn't specific that it's for the player only and the sceptre is increasing your global multiplier so the stat should work on a totem?

@NGytpoe 18 күн бұрын

the reason this item is forgotten is because it used to have no cap and it was only used in delving setups.

@taiwanisacountry 19 күн бұрын

Personally I would love it if they buffed all 3 rolls to 10-40. So you would need just 8ish from capped res to reach maximum increased damage. I mean reaching exactly 8 is hard, and if you increase it just a tiny bit, then you lose your damage 😅 a tight rope.

@mertuygun4825 19 күн бұрын

How about going mahuxotl shield + tempered by war and just benefit from %300 cold dmg portion? Not good enough wep to use? Just throwing ideas didnt pob it tbh

@dreamcore_gg 19 күн бұрын

Yeah pretty much not good enough that way. The original Replica Nebulis had no cap on damage and scaled with 3-5% inc dmg per missing 1% resistance but it was nerfed due to zhp delvers just using it with no resistances. That original version may have worked for such a setup with Mahuxotl + TbW but 300% inc dmg alone is severely outclassed by a crafted weapon unfortunately

@thesuspect5823 19 күн бұрын

what is the point of this scepter when you can use void battery or +2 crit multi want .

@marc-andreblais5818 19 күн бұрын

would it work to add doryani's prototype in that build to negate the lightning damage taken with armour? basically if you can get full convert, you just stack armour and thats it, no resists nothing

@philippwolf6088 19 күн бұрын

So? You gain cold and fire damage from the replica nebulis and doryanis says you can only deal lighting damage, where's the synergy there?

@marc-andreblais5818 18 күн бұрын

@@philippwolf6088 cause you convert the cold and fire to lightning damage

@philippwolf6088 18 күн бұрын

@@marc-andreblais5818 there is no conversion to lightning from any other element. Lightning is always the first element you convert to

@Tom-zc1ot 17 күн бұрын

I noticed you mentioning the increased cold will increase the damage of ignite on skills that convert from cold to fire. Is this really the case? Since the removal of double dipping (3.0.0 i believe), increasing for example cold damage which is converted to fire, will increase the hit the skill does, but not the inflicting ignite. Increased fire damage will still scale the ignite, because that is fire base damage.

@dreamcore_gg 17 күн бұрын

It will increase the ignite damage, it just doesn't double dip. This is also why builds which poison with elemental damage (fe. pneumatic dagger, inextricable fate) are able to scale that poison damage using Elemental Overload (40% more elemental damage for hits and ailments). To be clear, the increased cold damage can only apply to the portion of ignite that was inflicted with cold damage(or cold damage that was converted). If a skill had 100 base fire damage and 100 base cold damage in one hit and it inflicted an ignite, any increases to cold damage would only scale the portion of the ignite that originated from cold damage.

@Tom-zc1ot 17 күн бұрын

@@dreamcore_gg Thanks for explaining! Makes sense now, but a tough one to wrap your head around. Still learning after 12 years :)

@dolphlungrid1033 19 күн бұрын

tried using this several leagues ago - i couldnt get around the downside when i was building it with the Font of Thunder, Still felt very squish

@ramschasar7654 19 күн бұрын

There is also the hidden templar ascendency if i remember correctly.

@dreamcore_gg 18 күн бұрын

That one makes you take 90% of chaos as fire/lightning (45% to each)

@ramschasar7654 18 күн бұрын

@@dreamcore_gg Ah so wrong direction of conversion. Thanks. Not a fan of those jewels anyway.

@otz6408 18 күн бұрын

i tried to use this in a kintsugi and berserk setup to try and mitigate some of the damage you take. but the increased damage just couldn't work in an attack setup. (didn't make up for shit base damage, unfortunately)

@dreamcore_gg 18 күн бұрын

Yeah attack build probably not ideal for this unique

@jogadorjnc 19 күн бұрын

Does this not work with mahuxotl?

@leonsmuk4461 19 күн бұрын

how would Eternal Damnation fit into a build using Divine Flesh and Font of Thunder? You'd have to pay an extra 5% res (sadly also chaos) to use it, but you'd gain additional Elemental Damage Reduction equal to half your Chaos Resistance.

@dreamcore_gg 19 күн бұрын

You can do it but ED just has anti-synergy with DF because not only do you lose 5% maximum chaos resistance but the elemental dmaage reduction that you gain is only applying to half of the elemental damage you take, because the other half is taken as chaos

@waiting4more 19 күн бұрын

@@dreamcore_gg It's not strictly anti-synergistic, though, since they both benefit from increased/max chaos resistance, and they both do a great job of reducing ele damage taken. It's true that ED only applies to half the damage, but it's still an incredible layer of defense to pile on.

@lehuyhoang116 19 күн бұрын

Heh, glasseal cascade.

@ElConcensus 19 күн бұрын

dream scepter

@shodeb5564 18 күн бұрын

Heatshiver says hello,!

@HasXXXInCrocs 18 күн бұрын

I wonder if when they sit down to design these items they go through the same thought processes someone like you does. I, for one, could never consider all of these things when trying think of a cool item for the game.

@dreamcore_gg 18 күн бұрын

I guess it would be a thing they run past certain devs (I remember at exilecon, Mark(not Mark Roberts, the other Mark) was discussing item design, people like Hrishi will design an item and run it past him because he knows most of the stuff and how it could potentially impact the game). However, they won't always be able to account for everything and the sheer amount of players that interact with those items will eventually 'break' some of them. Still, that's why many of us love the game!

@ntma 19 күн бұрын

Told you. It's fuggin GUD

@dreamcore_gg 19 күн бұрын

It's a fun item, I like it

@ntma 19 күн бұрын

@@dreamcore_gg yep. I figured the shield+jewel combo would be good enough with a born of chaos or two. never really died to cold or fire with 55 res. mostly physical because the old-timey pure evasion miner setup

@dreamcore_gg 19 күн бұрын

@@ntma Yeah I might look into a setup using it next league if I get inspired to do so at some point!

@ntma 19 күн бұрын

@@dreamcore_gg sweet. I think I'm going to make a better build with it on standard when we get resets. that char is something really dumb now

@Kardeell 18 күн бұрын

This scepter even do its jop poorly. +2 scepter gives 32% more damage, can roll critical or better cs modifiers. And even can be syntesiced. Even if you use tempering orb, you cannot increase maximum value of bonus. Add to this item t0 rarity and boom- vendor trash.

@gremiocopeiro83 19 күн бұрын

Unfortunately, 600% inc damage isn't enough to make it worth all the taken as setup

@smarmypapsmears634 19 күн бұрын

Ok so Replica Nebulis + Font of Thunder, self shock Galvanic Field converting lightning to cold to fire????

@dreamcore_gg 19 күн бұрын

Let him cook!

@user-uj2ho7tp9y 19 күн бұрын

U can't use hot ring in that setup.. I think it'd be better with replica heatshiver

@smarmypapsmears634 19 күн бұрын

@@user-uj2ho7tp9y you're already taking all types of damage as lightning, you just need a small bit of phys as lightning and any damage taken can shock you

@HeavyClaw 19 күн бұрын

Commenting before watching the video: Replica Nebulis is easy to mitigate the negative resistances to take advantage of the upsides. You can use the Keystone Divine Flesh from Xibaqua on Timeless Jewel and Font of Thunder shield, both will give you shift 90% of your fire and cold resistance and if you want to cover 100%, to completely ignore both, you can use Sublime Vision with "30% of Fire and Cold Damage Taken as Lightning Damage While AFFFECTED BY PURITY OF LIGHTNING", this would shift 120% fire and cold, so, it will not be necessary worry about both resistances. And to enhance the damage, you can use a ventor's gamble ring with -% resistance corresponding to the damage you want to scale. The other option would be to use the new shield The Flawed Refuge and Keystone Divine Flesh from Xibaqua on Timeless Jewel, both give shift 90% fire and cold resistance, personal move if going for the remaining 10% or ignoring, building mitigations of any other kind, up to you. A friend tried to do that at the time with Mahuxotl's Machination and a sublime vision, it did kinda good combo, serves cool by it purpose of tank but since didn't invest that hard on it, stuck around 150k ehp

@dreamcore_gg 19 күн бұрын

Damage taken as modifiers don't scale down like damage conversion does if you pass 100%, so if you have over 100% taken as, you actually take more damage than the originating hit. Fe. with Divine Flesh, Font of Thunder and a Sublime Vision for Purity of Lightning, you have 50% elemental taken as chaos and 70% fire/cold taken as lightning. If you take a hit of 1000 fire damage: 500 is taken as chaos, 700 is taken as lightning, so you took 200 extra damage

@DAR0k88 19 күн бұрын

I wouldn't shift 120% fire and cold because that would be a 20% more damage taken which is what you are already trying to get around in the first place. 90% is good enough.

@curse103 19 күн бұрын

I do like these kind of videos, I think most/all PoE players have a little part of their brain always looking for forgotten things and how they can fit into a niche of some kind. That being said though, if your conclusion to the video and all your work going into it is that you shouldn't use the item... maybe there might be a better topic for a video?

@grigsie 17 күн бұрын

I’m impressed at how absolutely terrible this weapon seems

@Tuzder 19 күн бұрын

What about the iron mass? 😢😅

@dreamcore_gg 19 күн бұрын

There's a ton of uniques to cover in the series, this may be one of them soon!

@Tuzder 18 күн бұрын

@@dreamcore_gg thank you sir! I’ve been using it this league that’s why I’m asking about it under every video!

@chaosae3143 17 күн бұрын

@@dreamcore_ggfun thing with iron mass, weapon mtx applies to the skeletons holding it

@schw3i 18 күн бұрын

Sublime Vision's Purity of Lightning variant will also give "30% of Fire and Cold Damage taken as Lightning Damage while affected by Purity of Lightning". Albeit stacking all 3 options will make you take more damage (extra 20% as lightning), but one might argue that the extra maximum resistance from Purity of Lightning kinda help nullify that.

@rammune7260 18 күн бұрын

You will not take additional damage by having more conversion than 100%. It will simply change how much is being converted to what: E.g if you were to have a total of 100% of fire to lightning and 50% of Fire to cold, you would instead take 2/3 of the fire damage as lightning and 1/3 of the fire damage as cold.

@schw3i 18 күн бұрын

@@rammune7260 That's incorrect! What you said applies to conversion when dealing damage. If you look up the "damage taken as" section on poewiki, you will get a link to GGG Mark's comment, confirming that more than 100% conversion of "damage taken as" cause you to take more damage.

@dreamcore_gg 18 күн бұрын

@@rammune7260 Conversion is not the same as damage taken as, these are two entirely different mechanics that are calculated at different times during the receiving damage calculation. Damage taken as is only calculated once, at the same moment, and therefore damage cannot be shifted twice ie. You can't take physical as fire using Cloak of Flame and then shift that fire damage into lightning using Font of Thunder. For this reason, damage taken as also doesn't scale down past 100%. If you have more than 100% damage taken as of a particular damage type, you will take more hit damage than the originating hit. Conversion is calculated as part of the originating hit, on the attackers side of the equation before any part of the defenders calculation begins. Skill type conversion takes priority fe. from a skill gem or a support gem, and won't be scaled down if possible, but if conversion exceeds 100% it will be scaled down to meet 100% (which is pretty much as explained in your comment)

@TheSenit 19 күн бұрын

Seems you missed one part of the puzzle that is worth mentioning and that is Incandescent Heart

@dreamcore_gg 19 күн бұрын

I mentioned non-chaos as extra chaos modifiers, but you can't make use of those if you're using Avatar of Fire. However, using Incandescent Heart with Divine Flesh and Font of Thunder would make you take 115% of incoming fire and cold hit damage (75% as chaos, 40% as lightning). Incandescent Heart alone with DF isn't enough to be able to ignore scaling fire/cold resistance, you'll die very quickly to DoT and hits will still deal significant damage to you as well

@yellownomadglitch3309 19 күн бұрын

Seems there is a problem with Uniques in PoE most are actual garbage you would never even bother try to use, beside those, these would be next, neat idea but horrible to play around, so I have to build around a lot of defenses to even have a chance to use it and the reward is 600% inc dmg? why not just use the defenses you built and live more easily and use a normal weapon, even if it is less dmg, some extra seconds in a fight isn't the end of the world. Some are good, and some are for leveling but even then kinda eh... Cool video, the problem isn't it, it is just PoE Uniques could be much more interesting, idk if you have played Last Epoch, but uniques there feel very impactful, some are trash as well for sure, but many have a lot of potential to be used, it is just content creators also not bothering in trying something that isn't meta.