Hearing Ian say "pro gamer move" made my morning

Every time Ian says "Pro gamer move" I get motivation to live for a couple more hours

Ian is a truly sport man. Winning is not his higher priority, but testing things and having fun.

I'm imagining the long-barrel Artillery Luger with stock in that same situation. I just can't imagine tossing it in the dirt to pick up the kettlebell. "Here, let me put a cloth down first..."

*Record scratch* “I bet you’re wondering how I got here”

Now that is ballsy, taking a pistol with stock to Desert Brutality. Fascinating results!

I’d like to see you do comparable stages with a stocked C96 in 7.63x25… scoped Han Solo style. Flatter shooting round, no barrel tilt and the scope for longer shots… and if the spinner still doesn’t cooperate, send the Wookie to rip it’s arms out

One way you might counteract the parallax problem is to mount suppressor height sights on the gun. If the iron sights are aligned, the dot will be in nearly the same position every time. Really, it's just adding additional reference points to the sight picture.

I would be very interested in seeing this done again with an historical stocked pistol like a high power or c96

Loving that Ian is not last with a not-great stocked pistol.

“Pro gamer move” I love you Ian. Never change.

it would be interesting to see this being done with a mp7. wich i think pushes the pistol with a stock concept further to a pcc while not being there completely. but it would probably be difficult to organize this

It would be really interesting to see how the MP7 would do in this match. It is a bit larger, but also designed to be carried in a holster. I would expect it to be really good for this.

I put together a glock model 40 in 10mm with a recover tactical brace and a sig romeo 5 red dot on their optics rail that mounts to the side of the brace. it's a bigger overall package than yours but being able to exploit the 10mm's extra range by using a red dot with very little parallax is quite handy

I'm a school custodian, and honestly what you said it could be used for is something I thought a lot about as a weapon I could leave in my car in case of an active shooter situation. I decided against it because I wouldn't want to me misidentified by LE as the shooter, but I thought a lot about the Flux Defense Raider. With what happened in Uvalde, I'm more and more scared that if someone were to want to hurt the kids at my school it would be up to school staff to try and put a stop to that.

Interesting experiment. It drives home the idea that "the more tasks a tool is designed to perform, the worse it performs those tasks." This gun can be more accurate over longer range than a regular pistol, but not accurate enough to warrant it replacing a rifle. It can also be easier to use at very short range than a rifle, but not really that much easier to warrant it replacing a regular pistol. It's basically a home-made PDW, and if you were to bring it to a competition for that particular type of gun, I would expect it to perform pretty well.

a stocked Laugo Alien would be interesting with the fixed barrel and whether that has a significant impact on the versatility of the system

Really enjoyed how much Ian was feeling himself in this video. Big up yourself, King 🤴🏽👏.

Great video, interesting to see how that setup faired.

If I recall correctly you installed a 4" barrel in this thing, I have to wonder if it would have performed substantially better with a 6" or 8" barrel, even if it needs the barrel to stick out the bottom of the holster.

Great shooting but I love the overview at the end. What Ian talks about practical purposes of the firearm make a lot of sense, definitely recommend watching until the end. Thank you for sharing and great shooting!

Thanks Ian. I truly love watching these challenges. The fact that you are always testing something out-of-the-norm adds to the ambiance and makes for great content. Love your channel Sir.

thats super interesting. it looks like theres more practical space in the pdw spectrum than i expected. it would be kind of interesting to see a comparison between tilting action stocked pistols, compact pdws (mp7 p90) pccs (m1 carbine ruger pc carbine, maybe a 10-22 as well) and an sbr shorty ar15

Looks like it was still a lot of fun. It would be interesting to see how a fixed barrel select fire stocked pistol would do at brutality. Something like a pm63 or vz61

Man, you're really getting quite good with the pistols! Fantastic seeing you grow through competition Ian!

Great baptism by fire and I loved the explanation/opinion of where a stocked pistol would be best suited!

Dude, you rule! Thanks for making such great channel!

Exactly what I expected. I really appreciated this video, thank you.

I love this style of video where you comment what you do and where you had problems.

Great job on the polish rack.

Loved this video! The combination of the build and the "experiment" was about the coolest video you've done (apologies if you have done this before, I've only been subscribed for a couple years.)

Thoroughly enjoy the competition shoots, thanks

I like your channel, educational and entertaining. I really liked this 2 part series, build and evaluate the USW-320.

Have to take my hat off to Ian's pistol shooting. Commissioned we did a minimal amount with the service Hi Power to say we'd done it, but no more. I wouldn't guarantee to hit a target I couldn't also punch! 😂

This was a lot of fun to watch. Didnt expect that in the beginning!

Very cool and a great data point

Super useful, super informative, and honestly super entertaining. Changed my opinion on the whole 'pistol chassis' concept quite a bit; I used to consider them kinda silly, but as you put it there are definitely uses for them. Thank you

Trooper division should have to listen to Iron Maiden during their stages.

I really enjoy watching your competition shooting. Especially when you go outside the norm, like this. 😁

I see a definite application for suppressive and indirect fire with this system...

Ian, I think a few things have to be considered when evaluating and comparing between these and a PCC: 1) The lower velocity from the shorter barrel over a PCC will be quite noticeable at ranges greater than 120-150 yards. Doping the drop on a red dot past 120 or so becomes very difficult on a small match target like you were shooting at because the drop varies so much between there and 200. 2) My experience with my USW-A1, Glock 19 in a 20/20 chassis, and Polymer80 in s 20/80 chassis all show that accuracy goes totally out the window when shooting prone or on elbows on a table. There is something mechanically happening under recoil with my body that makes my group sizes open up enough that I initially thought something was wrong with the gun. 3) Triangle or chevron reticles are better for long distance shots and offer some BDC capability-my experience is with the dual illuminated RMR with the triangle reticle, but the Holosun 509 ACSS would be preferred if it were available when I got the RMR. Of the three guns I have, the USW-A1 has the best practical accuracy, followed by the P80 in the 20/80 chassis with a SilencerCo barrel. The worst of the three is the Glock in the 20/20 chassis…. And that has a KKM match barrel in it. The USW-A1 is marginally better than the P80 and I am very confident in my ability to get 1st round head shots at 120 yards. The Glock will need 2, maybe 3 shots to get that hit. I think the concept behind these stocked or braced pistols is sound and you can’t beat the portability of a 30 round quasi carbine that fits in your glovebox. The 20/20 and 20/80 braces are the best $100 you’ll ever spend on a handgun IMO, and the USW is the coolest gun I own-it looks gimmicky, but it really works well. I hope you get a chance to test one at some point, it really is better than the chassis guns.

Great job Ian. Very interesting experiment. That was some good shooting. God bless all here.

I had the exact same malfunction problem with my p320 with the Apex trigger.. Trust me is the trigger stop bushing and spring you install with the kit.. Believe it or not that tiny spring is the cause of the problem.. Hard to explain but that spring gets jammed and causes the whole problem..

Your final conclusion was fascinating.

Thank you for the content

I think the results obtained were to be expected - carry pistols are not really intended for ranges outside of 100 yd, and that isn't necessarily because they're missing a stock. I think this is where a pistol caliber carbine really shines: when you have to stretch outside of that initial 100 yards. Inside of 100 yds a PDW can shine. For rucking and movement a PDW really shines. But for accurate, medium range fire? Not so much. (never mind the tilting action) The added barrel length of a carbine can do wonders not just for accuracy but for velocity too. The thing to remember is the gun world is full of compromises and you just have to pick what you want to prioritize.

Like I expected it wasn't a pro gamer move for the actual matches

Great video! Hopefully you'll do this with the FK Burno with a stock at some point for proof of concept!

I'd really like to know what a longer Barrel on the Sig would do. Edit: I forgot this pistol had a tilting barrel so a longer barrel wouldn't do much. ooops

I'd love to see you do a match done with Carl's FK Bruno once the brace / stock comes out for it. I'd be curious to see how much of a difference that I've velocity round would make.

Gun Jesus is feeding the 5000 here with his Brutality match footage. Loved this.

The match conclusion discussion was extremely helpful. My initial thoughts about the USW platform were very much like Ian's. Basically, a USW should function like an extremely compact PCC. Glad to better understand the appropriate use and limitations of the USW concept. Keep up the great work.

That is a good looking Range🤙

interested in seeing how much more accurately this would perform with a red dot without the parallax issue. excellent shooting , Ian.

If the shortcomings are mostly in the limited accuracy of the action and the parallax of the optic, I wonder how other similar builds might fare. Perhaps a USW built on a Laugo Alien, or if it were possible to run the event with an MP7. Combined with an optic with less parallax we could really see whether the limitations are in the form factor itself or just the particular mechanics of this configuration. And, of course, I'd love to see Rhett Neumayer run this with a cheek pistol and see how that fares.

" this is what you call a pro gamer move " Ian is getting in touch with the new generation

Insightful content 👌

As someone who has two similar "PCC" setups in 9mm (USW-G & Flux Raider), they do not excel at 50+ yards. Their sweet spot is really about 25 yards. They aren't much more practical than a really good pistol, but they're still so damn cool.

That sounded like Les/ Pegasus Tests behind the camera at the beginning of the vid, nice. Bold to run such a compact PCC for everything!!

Nice.. Cool video Ian

Some of those shots were tough with a pistol, you did way better than I would have

loved the content

Great video

Compact red dot parallax is the main reason why so many open division shooters still use the now ancient C-More Slideride.

0:09 - It's like a voice over start to a neo-noir film. Ian is floating dead in a body of water doing his own narration...

It's because of this video I stuck to my decision for a cz scorpion vs p320 smc. Thank you

Some of the ways you choose to challenge yourself amazes me. Ian Boss💪

Great video. I'd be curious to see if the slightly larger B&T MP9/TP9 performs better as a PDW / Holsterable Carbine.

I was wonder if the original USW version with the fixed dot and the ACRO would be better with the parallax shift but did some reading and it's still present on them. They're very neat little packages.

Very cool idea!

Love that Asatru patch.

Having shot a Sig (granted it was a P226) for many years, I can say they are extremely accurate. The slide/barrel lockup has incredibly tight tollerances and my pistol would hit consitently even at silly ranges. The red dot parralax is probably Ians biggest issue, I've always preferred the stock iron sights which don't have parralax given they have two reference points.

Would love to see a video on the B&T version.

Stage 7 was incredible!

I found what appears to be a similar device fot the p320 that uses a 1913 pic rail on the rear of the module and it also has a small segment for a red dot affixed to the top of said module... it's a Strike Industries frame, its rather expensive, but I didn't see any requirements to SBR it.

One thing in really interested in the concept is how it would deal with a silencer. Would the stock completely mitigate the added recoil effect of a Nielsen device? I hope you get a chance to shoot it suppressed Ian. Like others, I’d like to see what a red dot with less parallax would do to the set up. I’d also be interested to know what some accuracy driven handloads could do for the longer stages.

I really like Ians The Division agent cosplay for this match

"pro gamer move" LMFAO I love you Ian

How difficult do you want this match to be: Ian: *YES*

There's a stock for the 7.5 FK BRNO PSD pistol, though I'm not sure about its availability to US civis. That would be an interesting one to test out as opposed to the limited 9mm here.

Mall security or school resource officer: not typically market segments where B&T wants its name uttered.

The “ Karl bad man” on the obstacle had me chuckling

This kinda utterly deflates the hype from the build video.

I would really have liked to see the new LC carbine used here~

I would so love to see you re-visit this concept with a better optic and either a slightly longer P320 barrel or something built on a different system. I really feel like with modern optics we should be able to make a PDW that fits in a holster and can still hit a person-sized target at 150m. Heck, silhouette pistol shooters are doing it with iron sight revolvers...

7.62x 25 seems like a good cartridge for a PCC event

I'm told the Glock version is issued to\has been evaluated by aviation protection officers [Air Marshals] of a major European nation. When you think of the engagement distances & risk to bystanders from missed rounds it supports Ian's thoughts.

On the parallax issue, that's why I like to run my dots cowitness with my front sight. Yes a different zero than my irons, as well as different sight picture but it ensures my dot is in the same spot every shot.

22:30 Mall security whips out a stocked pistol, I’m going to be dead. From laughing.

This was an experiment that gave a definitive result. To me this would be success.

Laugo alien pcc would be cool with the fixed barrel and the solid sight mount!

Very interesting that it has such a large cone of fire. I've shot a P320 M17 handgun and about 80-90 yards and it's cone of fire was definitely smaller than that.

A trijicon with bad parallax? Shocker

Makes you think about what handgun would be best in this role and which sight to use

I would love to see something like that, but with combo like glockmagfed keltec sub2000 and glock. You know, modern cowboy setup.

I would love to see a video seeing how far you can take these kind of platforms. Different aftermarket barrels grouped with a large selection of ammunition. Different calibers. 5.7? Find which caliber is easier to find match grade ammo for.

Not sure if Ian will see this but for anyone else who does, that parallax issue could potentially be solved by adding a tall front sight post. For more precise shots, you could take your time (albeit giving up some view in your dot’s window). For close shots it wouldnt matter nearly as much and you could shoot them with the dot anywhere in the window. Just my thoughts on it, love the concept

Seems like the package is good the tilting barrel and bad sight are what kept it from competing with the carbines for real.

Rocking that bandit costume for the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. competition I see :D

Fantastic.. Wishing you support..