Insanity! Othias mentions this gun to Indy in yesterdays special, and today Ian shows it. Now I just need The Bloke to fire it and Lindybeige to bad mouth it for being French and not a Spandau and the circle is complete!
@mo453276 жыл бұрын
Tuning3434 What did Othais say about it?
@doraran51586 жыл бұрын
Thanks for reference to Lindybeige. Been following Bloke (and Chap) on Range for a while as well as CapandBall for English language firearms channels giving European (Swiss and Hungarian respectively) perspectives.
@SgtKOnyx6 жыл бұрын
I mean he'd dislike it for "French" but I don't think he'd care that it's "not a Spandau"
@joebuddy77176 жыл бұрын
Yes. But does it fire Pommels?
@TribuneAquila6 жыл бұрын
You really cant end anyone rightly without a pommel
@EchosTackyTiki Жыл бұрын
7:19 I think that I've seen so many internal box mags opened up, seeing one that quick detaches like that just unnecessarily impressed the heck out of me.
@MrSebfrench766 жыл бұрын
We frogs , we need to kidnap Ian , bring him here , and give him the french citizenship and a Legion d'Honneur. Nobody on earth has ever paid such a tribute to the french guns history.
@baneofbanes4 жыл бұрын
“Kidnap” He’d probably already have his bags packed when you got there.
@Flakfire6 жыл бұрын
Ghost behind the blinds at 4:03
@kenchaipatr60436 жыл бұрын
Hey flak
@CarrotConsumer6 жыл бұрын
R u a hacker man?
@SmolPotatowo6 жыл бұрын
Ian should put a spook warning on this video, 2spoopy6me
@xmm-cf5eg6 жыл бұрын
Gun's inventor factchecking Ian from beyond the grave,
@xmm-cf5eg6 жыл бұрын
Gun's inventor factchecking Ian from beyond the grave,
@owainrichards43726 жыл бұрын
The French had so many semi automatic rifles and yet used the lebel until ww2
@leterrierdinari28616 жыл бұрын
Owain richards Our military and mostly our generals come from officer schools and are trained to think in a certain way, and that makes them a little bit short-sighted when it is about anticipating and adapting to change. They are good in regular fights were we need strategy but when we need tactic on the battleground and quick adaptation to changing, they tend to be a bit too slow and conservative sadly. An age old problem we have in France.
@owainrichards43726 жыл бұрын
Maxime Vincent think lots of countries were the same at this period being a bit slow to the new way of fighting
@qsywastooshort74516 жыл бұрын
The development of a semi-automatic rifle for the French army was finalized in 1913 with the adoption of the Meunier, but was postponed in perpetuity by the Great War, cause that's not really the ideal time to change your entire supply of rifles and ammunition. After the war development resumed but on a different model, based on the experiences of the war, and in parallel with the development of a stopgap/rear echelon rifle that would replace the aging Lebel. This last part led to the MAS36, a very good bolt action rifle by any standards, and coupled with updated Berthiers it made up most of France's small arm reserve in WW2. The semi-automatic rifle was unfortunately barely finalized by 1940, and would only become France's standard rifle in 1949. Tl;dr the Meunier couldn;t be adopted, the RSC was not meant to replace anything, then the MAS 40 was cut just short of being issued by WW2. The Lebel wasn;t used that much by then.
@KiloLima396 жыл бұрын
Maxime Vincent aren't strategy and tactics basically the same thing?
@Hirosjimma6 жыл бұрын
KL no, strategy is more the grand scheme of things whilst tactics is the operations on the battlefield. Taking a bridge without damaging it so you can use it to move troops over a river is strategy. Flying in at night with silent gliders so as not to alert the enemy is tactics.
@thegoldencaulk27426 жыл бұрын
Gorgeous rifle, was lucky enough to see this exact rifle about a year back before it had been sold. Just an awesome piece!
@Snowman1510ify6 жыл бұрын
TheGoldenCaulk where did you see it at. If that isn't to private of course
@TheXenomorphSlayer6 жыл бұрын
TheGoldenCaulk IT BROKE NEW GROUNNDDD
@robosoldier112 жыл бұрын
kinda gives me SKS vibes in so far as the general look to it.
@Ashfielder6 жыл бұрын
Any chance you’d ever be able to take a look at a Madsen Rasmussen 1896 rifle? That is a very interesting military semi automatic rifle, in my opinion.
@lawrencebautista16 жыл бұрын
Toby Wood any considerations to add this to BF1? Perhaps in the medic class?
@ForgottenWeapons6 жыл бұрын
I have a video on it filmed that hasn't posted yet. Also one on the 1888 Madsen-Rasmussen.
@Ashfielder6 жыл бұрын
Forgotten Weapons Excellent! Can’t wait to see that one.
@williamgilis86856 жыл бұрын
Hi Ian! I have a question for you: What do you think about the Manurhin Mr 73? And do you wish test it? (I know it's 2 questions, my bad!!)
@TimeTripper796 жыл бұрын
Hi Ian, when will you post these videos?
@hobbitilius6 жыл бұрын
Poor Ian. This may be one of the most badly missed arms in his collection.
@thefuzzysheep38593 ай бұрын
Long recoil firearms have always been fascinating to me. Especially these French long guns, or some handguns.
@mtnmist16 жыл бұрын
Big thanks to Paul & Ian... Very interesting review.
@hockeytownluv20126 жыл бұрын
Aramis, Athos, Porthos, and Dartanion all for one and one for all. Keep the great content coming musketeer man
@charro70376 ай бұрын
D’Artagnan, if you don’t mind…
@B52Stratofortress16 жыл бұрын
He never says in the video, but this was taped in Canada. Glad to have you visit! It probably wouldn't take much to convert this to 7x57 Mauser
@ForgottenWeapons6 жыл бұрын
The gods of history will strike you dead on the spot if you convert this to 7x57.
@John.VanSwearingen6 жыл бұрын
I bet that receiver cover could be modified to take some Weaver mounts.
@tdugong6 жыл бұрын
Welp, Gun Jesus hath spoken, thou shalt not convert this rifle to use 7mm Mauser ammunition.
@Vincent-S6 жыл бұрын
John Van Swearingen God forbid someone bubba this for deer.
@PassiveDestroyer6 жыл бұрын
Also, even if you wanted to convert it to 7mm Mauser, you'd have to re-engineer the entire rifle to get it to work. You'd be slapped around so hard by Murphy's Law, that you'd die of exhaustion before you got to even enjoy the thing.
@markbecht14206 жыл бұрын
What a delightfully elegant rifle. Had things gone differently I could see this being a commercial success as a sporting rifle competing with the Model 8, and very popular through Francophone Africa for medium game.
@smokeydops6 жыл бұрын
Now THAT has got to be a rare and historic find!
@Flakfire6 жыл бұрын
Oooh I'm early this time.
@thepalestripper3 жыл бұрын
I’m not.
@tisFrancesfault6 жыл бұрын
literally was thinking "what was Frances first semi automatic rifle?" thought I'd check, as surely Ian would have made a video on it. well sure enough, and good timing.
@lucianene77415 жыл бұрын
I think long recoil is the only system that could work well with black powder. The bolt stays locked until all the gas is vented out, so there is very little residue that can get into the action and clog it after the breech is opened. Imagine this sort of rifle in the 1870's.
@jesscollins19 ай бұрын
Due to the pressure to produce a functional rifle due to the war, it looks like the french looked closely at the only successful autoloaders at the time, that was the John Browning designs of the Auto 5 shotgun and the 1908 Reminton/Fabrique National produced sporting rifles.
@marcamant72585 жыл бұрын
Its Stream line makes it looks like an Arrow or a sword rather than a rifle: very impressive.
@piritskenyer6 жыл бұрын
Will this rifle be restored to firing condition? Is there even specs available for the ammo?
@dwightehowell81796 жыл бұрын
I didn't here him say anything that suggested this gun wasn't in firing condition assuming you had ammo that was appropriate for the gun nor did I see any obvious defects.
@piritskenyer6 жыл бұрын
The barrel stuck to the inside of the sleeve may be considered a hindrance when it comes to the operation of a long recoil gun...
@SgtKOnyx6 жыл бұрын
piritskenyer just a bit
@polygondwanaland83906 жыл бұрын
piritskenyer It's in perfectly fine condition as a single shot rifle!
@antiquearmsreview44316 жыл бұрын
The rifle does not need to be restored... it is in perfect working order. There was only a bit of dried grease sticking the barrel to the barrel guide.
@cesarpallincourt99876 жыл бұрын
Loved that video! Was looking forward to it for a long time, thanks!
@shooterfan19746 жыл бұрын
Ian, you have the most interesting firearms channel on YT. Thank You, for putting out the content you work hard to produce. God Bless.
@DANNYonPC6 жыл бұрын
Weird baguette gun
@jrapcdaikari6 жыл бұрын
DANNYonPC you think they'll add this thing into BF1?
@rickansell6616 жыл бұрын
Ah! An escapee from the Salt Mines breaks cover! :)
@federicoascencio95606 жыл бұрын
If they add this weapon I hope they add a Factory and Extended (15 rounds magazine)
He's not mocking japanese corpses in the forest, so he doesn't meet KZfaq's payment plan guidelines. Because, marketing dead bodies to children is family friendly, but historical information on firearms and the art being marketed to adults? That's downright terrorism!
@Lowlandlord4 жыл бұрын
@@xmm-cf5eg To be fair to your gross exaggeration and oversimplification, people could use a lot of this info to hurt and kill people and KZfaq has every right as a private business to decide how they spend their money, just like I do. I like what Ian and Karl do so I give them my money, I don't whine that a private corporation or the state isn't giving them money, and I AM a fucking socialist/communist, defending goddamn capitalism. I feel unwell. They probably make more via Patreon than they ever did with KZfaq ads anyways, although I respect Karl's fight. Would be nice if they followed through with their own rules and got stopped paying that Logan guy though, and a few people that very clearly break the rules they have setup, regardless of how many fans they have. I don't expect companies to have principles, but to at least follow their own fucking rules.
@SergeantPsycho6 жыл бұрын
One impression I'm getting of the french from this channel (and elsewhere) is that for better or worse, they like to be the early adopters.
@oOkenzoOo6 жыл бұрын
I think "pioneer" is the word you were looking for =D Yes the French are often pioneers in many area.
@inspecteurjohnson25486 жыл бұрын
I was waiting so long for this gun My patience has been rewarded Thank you gun jesus
@Requeium2 жыл бұрын
That was great. I click on this video, "Hey! This is going to be the most important video you'll watch today!" I smack the skip ad button before it even loads over and over again to get my far more important learning for today. Go away, KZfaq. Im not here for you.
@tedbaxter52346 жыл бұрын
Never met a gun I don’t like in some way. Military semi’s are a passion for me. Thank you for posting this!
@ritterbruder2126 жыл бұрын
That magazine follower is identical to the Mosin follower except with the extra bar to keep it from tilting.
@BigATB6 жыл бұрын
Paul has a whole lot more discipline and patience than I. If I had one of those it would be in pieces in a box, because I'd have to take it apart and try to "fix" it.
@nemergix17076 жыл бұрын
VIVE LA FRANCE
@diggitydane6 жыл бұрын
The brand "Manure*" might lead people to think its Crappy
@Thebrokenjar2944 жыл бұрын
Just looking at that charging handle I couldn’t help but think of how many machining operations would go into that when they could have saved time/money by just making it straight where the hook starts
@jaymassengill33406 жыл бұрын
I'm also watching Madame Curie (1943) this morning. Pertinent to this rifle because of the discovery of Radium for radioluminescent night sights like this rifle had, and her pioneering use of mobile X-Ray equipment for field hospitals during WWI.
@lakewooded49296 жыл бұрын
that's a lot of moving hardware . . . bang, bang . . . klunk
@llloyd46 жыл бұрын
Lakewood Ed I can see the gun owner having a fit at that point. :D
@theophileification6 жыл бұрын
Oh yes! At last. I shall always dream of owning one of these. The RSC 1917 comes first however.
@aaaa68246 жыл бұрын
It would be fantastic if you could do a video about the manufacturing techniques and production of firearms during WWI and WWII.
@inspecteurjohnson25486 жыл бұрын
Its not june actually its july
@GuntherRommel6 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Kind of surprised he'd make that mistake.
@CanalTremocos6 жыл бұрын
Yep. Noticed it too.
@Arthurzeiro6 жыл бұрын
Had to pause an InrangeTV video for htis, I'll go back to that in a moment, I promisse.
@monyclair53576 жыл бұрын
Was waiting this video since ... Oh god, more than a Year.
@SgtKOnyx6 жыл бұрын
I spent about ten minutes thinking of how to help get that nose cap off before I realized there probably isn't ammo for this basically experimental rifle any more so getting it back to firing condition is likely more trouble than it's worth.
@hankhammer17764 жыл бұрын
Possible Precursor to the SVT-40 Variants & SKS?
@JesusvonNazaret6 жыл бұрын
is that also a luminescent dot next to the stripper clip guide?
@xmm-cf5eg6 жыл бұрын
Probably Radium, if it is in fact luminescent, Happy late Birthday Mad. Curie!
@eovdubsvw87436 жыл бұрын
If it's your you gotta get her operational, would love to see it function.
@kylebell73236 жыл бұрын
Ok now I see where the Gallian standard rifle from Valkeria chronicles comes from
@eurasianhoopoe81706 жыл бұрын
That magazine look so happy! :)
@panzerabwerkanone6 жыл бұрын
The long recoil Remingon Model 8s were also ordered by the French for the Air Service
@GooglyEyedJoe6 жыл бұрын
That magazine mechanism reminds me of the Mosin Nagant magazine springs.
@Strelnikov4036 жыл бұрын
Ian, the ultimate Ouiaboo. More French weapons pls, je les aime
@matejmatej35546 жыл бұрын
How come everytime I have question in my mind you already provide the answer few seconds later in the video it's like you are a magician or a mind reader. stuff like that makes your Channel awesome and interesting to watch and I truly hope you will entertain us for years' in the future. I'm sorry for the English it's not my home language I hope I got my point across much love greetings from Slovenia
@67claudius6 жыл бұрын
Where the hell are all these French firearms manufacturers gone?
@silence39946 жыл бұрын
reminds me strongly of a sks
@wolffpup2454 жыл бұрын
Wonder if anyone would be able to make a Meunier reproduction that looks as good as this. Because it looks like a pretty damn good Semi-Auto.
@Dan-lt3nk6 жыл бұрын
Do any modern removeable box magazines use a spring sytem like that? It would collapse a lot more than a simple coiled spring and would mean higher capacity or shorter equivalent mag. A heavy leaf spring and a series of staggered 'X' plates like in this magazine should work in theory. Is it a matter of cost or is it just an unnecessary complication?
@newolku6 жыл бұрын
It works for 5 rounds but not 30. You can try but it's not going to work
@coreyg75756 жыл бұрын
Both
@ArgonZavious6 жыл бұрын
Can you do a "recoil explanation" video like the ammunition and machine gun ones pls. Recoil names and types always get me
@MitchellCH3 жыл бұрын
9:18 the amount of clearance at .005 to .008 inches is loose as far as fine fitment goes.
@blueband81146 жыл бұрын
The more i read and watch about French military history the fascinated i am.
@chi7891 Жыл бұрын
The algorithm brought me to this video today.
@dfwai75896 жыл бұрын
Isn't the M2 Browning long recoil operation?
@evanator1666 жыл бұрын
No, it is short recoil operated. The most common long recoil long gun that comes to mind is the Browning Automatic 5.
@baivesan6 жыл бұрын
No WD40 to the rescue?
@prestonhenson2636 жыл бұрын
Wd40 is TERRIBLE for firearms.. Long term it hardens to a varnish that gums up the works
@z31drifterlf6 жыл бұрын
Is it more common to see cannons with long recoil system?
@randywatson83476 жыл бұрын
Nicest rifle magazine follower system ever seen.
@thinkdifferent64036 жыл бұрын
5:20 July, not june, just sayin' :)
@KurtOnoIR6 жыл бұрын
So were those the first luminous sights then?
@doraran51586 жыл бұрын
The term 'point blank' [also in some sources as 'point zero'], in some older technical firearms manuals, references the bore of the rifle held parallel to ground, and the 'point blank' being that location where centerline of axis of bullet, drops below centerline of bore, hence site set at 'zero' or blanc. [This can be calculated mathematically, btw.] Point 1[ 100yds (or meters if applicable) would be 'point one', etc. when centerline of bore is raised from parallel to ground to start trajectory. In current modern nomenclature, is this considered to contemporary definition of 'point blank'? (Definitions do change over time.)
@StPaul766 жыл бұрын
2950fps is actually 900m/s.. For a 139gr 7mm bullet in early 20th century that's something.. It would be a superb round even by today's standards.. Actually getting a 6,5 Creedmore or a modern 6,5x55SE round to push a 140gr bullet at that speed would need some proper handloading and a looong barrel.. A really stout .308 rounds push a 150-155gr bullet at that velocity and they sure don't reach it with 20" barrels either. Respect to monsieur Meunier!
@Dms_Kernel6 жыл бұрын
Very informative
@rickardspaghetti6 жыл бұрын
What was the world's first ever semi-auto rifle? Any chance you could do a video on that one too, if any examples of it still exist?
@xfactor33986 жыл бұрын
It would be cool if you looked at the Vz. 24, I personally own one in good shape
@DavidHarris-qn7em6 жыл бұрын
Ian...I have an idea and was wondering if you have ever seen one as such..It is a double split action with a blow forward barrel with action rods and a lever stirrup setup that also cycles a bolt carrier assembly...hence the feed / extraction times are lessened as well as opposing forces cancelling recoil...I think it could be adapted for pistol,rifle or shotgun...thank you
@DavidHarris-qn7em6 жыл бұрын
Laird Cummings ..actually it has a gas tube with a "piston plug "that the tube with action bars impinges against..barrel blows forward pulling action bars forward..pivoting th bolt carrier lever stirrup that moves the bolt back in basically a half stroke..
@DavidHarris-qn7em6 жыл бұрын
Laird Cummings ..the B.C assembly and the barrel technically would only have to clear the next round in the mag ...splitting the feed/ extraction time basically in half ..Some H&K actions have a stirrup lever system in B.C. assembly...I do appreciate any input..twas just a mechanical pondering on my part..
@royperkins38516 жыл бұрын
What's interesting is that every military on the planet knows that 7mm is just about perfect and flirts with adopting it but always chokes before they can get it into service! This one,Pederson, EM-2 ,ETC !
@paranoiia86 жыл бұрын
Weird but somehow handsome rifle. Mechanism is a bit to complicated and delicate for military but I can bet that if they would work more on it(tests and opinions in the field) it would end to be more popular.
@ozdavemcgee20796 жыл бұрын
Im surprised..a French weapon...and Ian ISN'T DROOLING LOL
@SafetyProMalta6 жыл бұрын
Believe me, he was!
@ozdavemcgee20796 жыл бұрын
Stephen Forster upon reflection I know he was..whilst the camera was on the rifle
@americanpatriot23106 жыл бұрын
who else noticed they borrowed the stock of a mosin also similar for the internal magazine(sort of),and by the way was the ross rifle mk(4 or 3?) semi automatic or was it a bolt action
@myrgydwilliams64646 жыл бұрын
I knew you'd be looking at this as soon as he put it on his Instagram
@qdd69136 жыл бұрын
On the stock "juillet" means july , june is "juin" , but a very good video as usual !
@johnc82746 жыл бұрын
Was that a luminous dot on the receiver behind the stripper clip guide? And if so I'm guessing to aid in reloading in low light conditions
@maverick97083 жыл бұрын
A part of me really wants to see what the original night sights would have looked like, even if it is predictable and nothing too special.
@burningsporkdeath6 жыл бұрын
The Radium paint is still hot, it just needs new phosphor in order to glow.
@Kumimono6 жыл бұрын
I do wonder, if any stripper clip loaded weapons were converted to "modern" magazine weapons.
@doejohn86746 жыл бұрын
I see a Forgotten Weapons video, I click Like :) Concerning the night sights: where they radio-active (Radium?) or luminescent?
@aa-kz7hc6 жыл бұрын
wow i was just looking up this rifle and couldnt find it
@bDEREZZED6 жыл бұрын
Are any of those sweet sounding Air Service rifles among the survivors? They sound pretty interesting. Awesome video, I loved it even with the disassembly limitations.
@myrgydwilliams64646 жыл бұрын
bDEREZZED I'm no expert but I doubt it, because the owner of this one believes it's the only privately owned meunier A6 in the world.
Night sights are cool until you realise that WW1 era ones are generally radioactive
@Reic3336 жыл бұрын
I imagine all that flopping back and forth from the action doesnt feel too handy when trying to fire accurately in a life or death situation.
@MrFreddyFartface3 жыл бұрын
Should I ever get to meet Ian, I'd buy him a beer and teach him French pronunciation =D
@MrFreddyFartface3 жыл бұрын
And German as well
@maximefillon10296 жыл бұрын
The stamp is from July, not June.
@NinjaEnShort6 жыл бұрын
How do you unstuck that jam on the barrel ? Application of heat and repeated light strikes until it start cycling ?
@bigboy33066 жыл бұрын
you should do a video on the Winchester 1907 .351!!
@Falconguygaming6 жыл бұрын
Have you ever come across a R-76(or 77)? Looks like a limited production Rhodie Smg. Could be some interesting history!
@andrewmccain82976 жыл бұрын
Hey Ian as a french speeker i quick remark wich is not so relevent the cartouch on the stock says july not june
@BartBe6 жыл бұрын
Is that dot next to the stripperclip guide a luminescent dot for nighttime reloading?
@AntigonusMonopthalmos3 жыл бұрын
France started development of self-loading rifles in 1894 and somehow managed to not have a standard self-loading rifle until AFTER WW2
@AmineMezghani31664 жыл бұрын
Man you do have a special feeling for French weaponry ...
@corwinhyatt5196 жыл бұрын
Looks like Ian has a ghost. Top left door pane, early in the vid. :)
@breadman323986 жыл бұрын
I'm getting a lot of SKS vibes from this.
@Derp1234817 күн бұрын
Sks is post-ww2 and this Meunier A6 is pre-ww1 tho 😂 👍 sks in everyone heart !
@ScawerGaming6 жыл бұрын
Is that a luminous dot right next to the stripper clip guide? For night use?
@EddieBeaumontThomas6 жыл бұрын
That's July 1917, Ian.
@newnum26 жыл бұрын
Does anybody know how they figured out the shape of the ramp that the rear sight adjuster rides on? Did they work it out on paper theoretically or test it empirically?