Valmet M62/S: The AK in Finland

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Күн бұрын

After the Winter War and Continuation War, Finland settled a peace treaty with the Soviet Union, and started looking to modernize its infantry rifles - something semiautomatic was needed to replace the Mosin Nagants it was still using. A variety of rifles were tested, including the AR-10, Sig AM-55 (predecessor to the Stgw 57), and Madsen LAR. The Kalashnikov was really the clear choice, though, and the Finns received their first batch of Russian AKs in 1954. Sako and Valmet began working with AK designs in 1957, and by 1960 the Russian Type III milled receiver pattern was chosen as the basis for the new Finnish rifle.
That rifle would be formally adopted in 1962 as the Rk62, with full scale production beginning in 1965. It was mechanically a copy of the Kalashnikov, but with an assortment of external changes chosen by the Finns. Most significantly, the sights were dramatically improved. The front sight was given precise windage adjustment screws (as opposed to the Russian drift adjustments) and combined with the gas block. The rear sight was changed to an aperture type and moved to the rear of the receiver cover, which was also made with a much more precise fit than on Russian rifles.
The Finns also chose their own furniture style, including the distinctive tubular stock. While folding versions of this stock were sold commercially, the military pattern Rk62 used a fixed type, as does this M62/S semiautomatic version of the rifle. This example also has the early type of corrugated tubular pistol grip and “cheese grater” hand guard, both of which would be updated and improved after some time in Finnish military service.
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@HydraulicPressChannel
@HydraulicPressChannel 6 жыл бұрын
On one winter day my friend left his rifle against my heavy offroad trucks front wheel. I didn't notice that and when I drove away both of the rear wheels went over the rifle :D The rifle didn't show any external damage and we decided not to tell anybody :D And when we had next shooting day it also worked just fine so it's a quite strong rifle.
@vesa7069
@vesa7069 6 жыл бұрын
This comment needs more likes! :)
@randod1683
@randod1683 6 жыл бұрын
Let’s put it under a hydraulic press and see if the rifle still works.
@MTinakari
@MTinakari 6 жыл бұрын
Täsmää.
@ac1dP1nk
@ac1dP1nk 6 жыл бұрын
your friend knowing fired a rifle that had been run over...
@p_serdiuk
@p_serdiuk 6 жыл бұрын
ac1dP1nk Well, if there was no external damage, there couldn't have been any internal damage. Rubber is softer than steel.
@pisiprkl7913
@pisiprkl7913 5 жыл бұрын
I served Finnish Military with military version of this rifle. Super accurate, did shoot my golden shooting medal with it. Everybody who says this is no good doesn`t know what they are talking about.
@Tunkkis
@Tunkkis 11 ай бұрын
The comments of being no-good likely stem from the conscription system. Some rifles are well taken care of by people who both know and care to do so, while others are beat to shit and driven over with transport vehicles.
@Karpaneen
@Karpaneen Ай бұрын
How many different rifles have you compared this to? It's kinda easy to get biased on RK62 when it's literally the only assault rifle you've shot. Also the Finnish army shooting tests are made the rifle's capabilities in mind. If I remember correctly the test where you could achieve the shooter-medals was done from 150 meters. If one would've used a longer and larger calibre bolt action rifle like M/39 for an example, the distance would have been increased. So getting a golden shooters medal in the Finnish army with Finnish RK62 doesn't really tell anything about the rifles quality. RK62 rifles seem to be from the high end quality wise but the calibre itself (7,62x39) makes the rifle rather hard to control compared to western assault rifles that use a less powerfull cartridge.
@Karpaneen
@Karpaneen Ай бұрын
​@@TunkkisI don't really agree with this. On average each conscript handles the rifle around half a year and each time the rifle changes it's user, a gunsmith checks, maintains and fixes the gun. So there usually really isn't time for the conscript to damage the gun so much. Of course sometimes you see an idiot driving over the gun with a truck but that's extremely rare and usually reported. Most of the negative feedback comes from the states where there are guys who have much more experience with different kinds of guns. Vast majority of the Finnish conscripts haven't even shot a gun before military service.
@albertvainaa
@albertvainaa Ай бұрын
@@Karpaneen RK6 = 300 metriä.
@Schmidt54
@Schmidt54 6 жыл бұрын
I bet there is a sauna hidden somewhere in that piece
@trollsports7829
@trollsports7829 5 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@juhohyry5347
@juhohyry5347 5 жыл бұрын
Tube stock on RK-62 is hollow and accessible from buttplate. Conscripts were trained to smoke their cigarettes inside the tube so IR cameras don't pick up the heat from it. Almost counts as sauna.
@glenbarnier
@glenbarnier 5 жыл бұрын
its in the gaasss ttuubbe maaann
@aleksinuutila2315
@aleksinuutila2315 5 жыл бұрын
I once shot 6 mags in a couple of minutes, and I think the barrel turned into a kiuas (stove in a sauna).
@mrkeogh
@mrkeogh 4 жыл бұрын
Instead of an oil bottle there's a shot of vodka in the grip.
@markkusallinen3469
@markkusallinen3469 4 жыл бұрын
The stock is hollow for concealed nighttime smoking when on guard duty.
@linusdn2777
@linusdn2777 4 жыл бұрын
I wish we in Sweden had such a compartment in the Ak5C
@leksalahest
@leksalahest 3 жыл бұрын
Oli kyl wörtti!
@Alexandros.Mograine
@Alexandros.Mograine 3 жыл бұрын
Our sergeant taught us to conceal cigarette in our sleeves, nice trick.
@starrekt2328
@starrekt2328 6 жыл бұрын
*Perkele intensifies*
@austinhawkins3307
@austinhawkins3307 6 жыл бұрын
Vitu Satana!!!
@Raygun222
@Raygun222 6 жыл бұрын
Austin Hawkins *Vittu saatana!*
@TeamRetroWorld
@TeamRetroWorld 6 жыл бұрын
Painu vittuun, saatana
@KisstheGoat64
@KisstheGoat64 6 жыл бұрын
Mita Vitu!!
@ToveriJuri
@ToveriJuri 6 жыл бұрын
Vitulla Päähän...
@jkausti6737
@jkausti6737 6 жыл бұрын
Damn, I was waiting for Ian trying to pronounce "RynnäkköKivääri" ("assault rifle), from which the RK comes from.
@rautamiekka
@rautamiekka 6 жыл бұрын
J Kausti Same here but I guess he just can't bother.
@dille549
@dille549 6 жыл бұрын
Just realized that rynnäkkökivääri is as finnish word a word can get
@readytodie7355
@readytodie7355 6 жыл бұрын
Rynnäkkökivääri*
@Psiberzerker
@Psiberzerker 6 жыл бұрын
DNF. Did Not Finnish.
@vertie2090
@vertie2090 5 жыл бұрын
RYNKKY
@jakobbacklund2921
@jakobbacklund2921 6 жыл бұрын
I used the full auto version of this when i did my military service in the Finnish military. They are incredible accurate guns and they almost never jams.
@ryanvargas4889
@ryanvargas4889 6 жыл бұрын
Finns have a VERY fascinating military history.
@ihavewaited90daystochangem51
@ihavewaited90daystochangem51 6 жыл бұрын
Be russias worst enemy for a couple years, then be friends with them and share military tech. Why you may ask? Because the power of CYKA and PERKELE!
@singland1852
@singland1852 6 жыл бұрын
Yea our Grand grand dads kicked ass in the winter war, its a shame even that Finland basically won, we had a huge amount of war debt to Russia. So it was more like +-=0
@AlmaNaakka
@AlmaNaakka 6 жыл бұрын
Mikael Laurila basically we did not came even close to win..check your facts man
@Bhaalspawn84
@Bhaalspawn84 6 жыл бұрын
Yep. When Swedes ruled Finland (1200s-1809) they used to fight to the last Finn.
@AlmaNaakka
@AlmaNaakka 5 жыл бұрын
Fascinating is just the word..
@blueband8114
@blueband8114 6 жыл бұрын
This appears to be the Rolls Royce of AK's.
@XoravaX
@XoravaX 6 жыл бұрын
Valmet also perfected the stamping process (and unlike Soviet and other stamped AK's, the stamped RK's are fully compatible with the milled variants in regard to their internals) in the 1970's, but due to FDF accuracy and compatibility requirements (all parts had to be 100% interchangeable with the milled RK 62 and both had to reach the same level of accuracy) the resulting stamped RK 62 76 was actually more expensive to produce than the milled RK 62. The RK 62 76 was lighter and faster to produce though, but it also started losing accuracy earlier than the milled RK 62, as the stamped receiver flexed and stretched more in long-term usage.
@Xerdoz
@Xerdoz 6 жыл бұрын
That would be the RK 95
@pave6035
@pave6035 6 жыл бұрын
no... sig 552 better.
@TheSpekkel1
@TheSpekkel1 5 жыл бұрын
stamped RK's were never put in to real service by the FDF. If i remember correctly they got some rifles in 1977, 79 and 81 and declared then not ''good enough'' in 1983-84 and converted most rifles to semi-auto only and sold them to reservist.
@TheSpekkel1
@TheSpekkel1 5 жыл бұрын
military models stock is a nightmare, design flaw really, starts working itself loose pretty fast and shake. the flash hider gets packed with snow pretty easy too if you are not careful (problem with all birdcage flashhiders) and its heavier than RK 62. best ''ak'' to come out of Finland in my mind is RK 62TP with RK 95 optic rail attached to the side. Dont know how many of these optic rail addon guns have been made but couple of our officers and fellow soldiers got them.
@EricAndThe
@EricAndThe 6 жыл бұрын
I guess this video will be flooded with comments like this, but as a Finn I can by no means call this weapon forgotten.
@KUDO1973
@KUDO1973 6 жыл бұрын
Today, on the day of the 100th anniversary of the October coup d'etat, Erik, think on what Americans - and even Russians - really (REALLY) know about Finnish Civil War. Same thing with this beauty - Ian "kinda" presents the point of view from the USA. No offence, just different mole-hill. :)
@rkan2
@rkan2 6 жыл бұрын
Agreed, a more fitting term for the gun would be "The derelict weapon"
@XplosivCookie
@XplosivCookie 6 жыл бұрын
When I left I swore I'd forget that rifle, the barracks, the weather and everything in between, I was so done with being stuck there. I can still remember the cold wind in our close-order drill, the way our barrack smelled, and that god damned serial number.
@myownsite
@myownsite 6 жыл бұрын
Indeed, my service rifle even was this bicycle handle / cheese grater model, though obviously automatic. Best weapon I've ever shot and also the only one ✌
@Taolan8472
@Taolan8472 6 жыл бұрын
"Forgotten Weapons" is certainly a focus of this channel, but he doesn't just cover forgotten weapons. He also covers mechanically interesting weapons (his recent VZ-61 video) or weapons that are simply uncommon outside their native lands.
@Militaryarmschannel
@Militaryarmschannel 6 жыл бұрын
The one Valmet I've always wanted... at todays prices of over $6k for the last one I saw sell for on GunBroker, I'll likely never own one. This and the FAMAS are two rifles I so desperately want to own and never will.
@jakeh6988
@jakeh6988 6 жыл бұрын
Military Arms Channel Love the channel man. Never say never. Just have to keep your eyes open. Nothing on gunbroker thats rare ever comes cheap.
@kingofank
@kingofank 6 жыл бұрын
really? The one I've always wanted is a Valmet Hunter in 30-06. Also very expensive, unfortunately.
@torpmorp1324
@torpmorp1324 6 жыл бұрын
Military Arms Channel you have a good taste.
@jimmytehgeek
@jimmytehgeek 6 жыл бұрын
I'll pass on the FAMAS, but Valmets are common and cheap in Europe, might be worth the hassle and expense to import.
@homopetteri7766
@homopetteri7766 6 жыл бұрын
Maby u can get the newer rk95 (civilian version) its better and you can mount sights on it
@themightypen1530
@themightypen1530 4 жыл бұрын
My wife is from Finland. She is also very well made.
@garygallant5390
@garygallant5390 3 жыл бұрын
Best bang for the buck.
@alkestos
@alkestos 3 жыл бұрын
We have really good quality control in finland.
@mikkoheikkila5457
@mikkoheikkila5457 3 жыл бұрын
How's the rear sight?
@roskcity
@roskcity 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikkoheikkila5457 Moro
@freeholdtacticalmed
@freeholdtacticalmed 2 жыл бұрын
Ex wife was Finnish. Well made
@anderskorsback4104
@anderskorsback4104 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting fact: Even after the Warsaw Pact moved on to the AK-74 with its 5.45mm round, Finland stuck with its AK-47 variants with the 7.62mm round. The larger calibre was considered better for forest warfare since the bullets deflect less from hitting tree branches, and forest warfare seldom happens at distances where the better long-range accuracy of 5.something round rifles matters.
@Qualltoxy
@Qualltoxy Жыл бұрын
Will Finland stay with 7.62 once their new rifle co-developed with Sweden is finalized?
@KapteinFruit
@KapteinFruit 6 жыл бұрын
That's the coolest AK I've seen. And as a Norwegian, I think it's cool that it's Finish.
@jonpa3109
@jonpa3109 6 жыл бұрын
You should check out the RK95 TP it looks even more nice.
@NickBailuc
@NickBailuc 5 жыл бұрын
yeah, get some nationalism in there too
@holoholopainen1627
@holoholopainen1627 5 жыл бұрын
Finished by Finnish ValMet !
@roch9750
@roch9750 4 жыл бұрын
as a norwegian living in finland and being in the finnish military, I absolutely love this rifle
@kkkkkk7431
@kkkkkk7431 4 жыл бұрын
@@NickBailuc are you stupid?
@Kirgiisianmunakenno
@Kirgiisianmunakenno 6 жыл бұрын
A few additions and RK-tastic trivia: -The lanyard loop on the mags is by official doctrine used to distinguish for example tracer mags by touch in the dark, by tying knots of string on it. The loop is still present on the modern polymer ones. -The Finnish Army did in fact issue a folding stock version to Rangers, MPs and such. -Although the mag itself is interchangeable with Russian mags, the Finnish mag is NOT compatible with Russian AK's. I now this is true with the current polymer ones, not sure of the old steel mags. A very... winter war-esque design in my mind. - The flash hider doubles as an awkward barb wire cutter. Stupid design, but eh. -I also believe there is an integrated folding rear night sight, not an add-on one, not sure what those are. -If you buy one, I'd recommend you use match-grade ammo. Finnish defence force standard issue ball is match grade Lapua, and that's what these were designed to shoot. I hear the barrel may somehow deteriorate badly from cheap ammo, but this is just hearsay.
@vesa7069
@vesa7069 6 жыл бұрын
KirgiisianMunaKenno The flash hider is definitely not a barbed wire cutter. That is just a rumor that has started to spread at some point.
@Leopardipzg
@Leopardipzg 6 жыл бұрын
There is a 1960s FDF video where it is used as a wire cutter.
@jblackriver
@jblackriver 6 жыл бұрын
I don't know where you got the fact that the mags are not interoperable. I have shot the RK95, RK62, bulgarian Arsenal SAR and East-German MpiKMS all with FDF steel mags, FDF polymer mags, russian and chinese steel mags, bulgarian polymer mags and even the Magpul AK PMAG. A lot. They all work. Only AK mags in Finland that won't work, are the Izmash/Saiga civilian polymer mags which have a different feed ramp design on purpose.
@Eonymia
@Eonymia 6 жыл бұрын
He means that the RK mags won't work with russian AKs (at least the ones made at the time), but the AK mags work with the RK.
@Tunkkis
@Tunkkis 4 жыл бұрын
The rear night sight is just the the regular rear sight bar flipped 180° forward.
@calbackk
@calbackk 5 жыл бұрын
When I served in the Swedish language brigade of the Finnish military in 1976-77, this gun was officially called “Stormgevär” , but everyone called it by its slang name: Stägä. 👍🇫🇮
@osk4r99
@osk4r99 5 жыл бұрын
Sluta yyyra! Avdelning taakse poistu!
@calbackk
@calbackk 4 жыл бұрын
Stägä tuli lyhnnyksestä stg eli rk suomeksi. Kyllä ainkin minä ihan oikean käden sormella liipasinta painoin. 👍😀
@12345678901234565678
@12345678901234565678 4 жыл бұрын
Liipasinta ei paineta, sitä hipelöidään hellästi että saadaan ase laukeamaan =P
@okaro6595
@okaro6595 3 жыл бұрын
The term "Stormgevär" is used only in Finland. It is an unknown word in Sweden. In Sweden it is called automatkarbin.
@calbackk
@calbackk 3 жыл бұрын
@@okaro6595 Så klart. Stormgevär har ju ingenting alls med Sverige att göra utan är en direktöversättning från tyskans Sturmgewehr, som ju i sin tur var ursprunget till Kalaschnikoven.
@spongethebob8658
@spongethebob8658 6 жыл бұрын
Remember kids. This work fine at -40F and even if you forgot it outside tent over night during blizzard
@Heksu99
@Heksu99 6 жыл бұрын
Se ase pidetään aina käden ulottuvilla ja kaukana teltan liepeistä You keep the gun always at place where you can reach it and always far from bottom of the walls of tent
@turboahdettusupra58
@turboahdettusupra58 5 жыл бұрын
@@Heksu99 tarkotat varmaan teltan että se nimenomaan pidetään teltan reunassa jotta se ei pääse sulamaan.
@taistelusammakko5088
@taistelusammakko5088 5 жыл бұрын
Theres no farenheit, get out >:(
@osk4r99
@osk4r99 5 жыл бұрын
@@Tounushi leaving the rifle outside would be a major service crime. Your rifle is like your penis you should allways be able to grab it!
@davebona9592
@davebona9592 4 жыл бұрын
You never bring a rifle into a heated tent in winter........
@Erowens98
@Erowens98 6 жыл бұрын
This gun is simply amazing, we still use its variants in the Finnish military today. I myself use a 1974 7.62mm RK-62. Military variant of course.
@fredkaczinski2774
@fredkaczinski2774 2 жыл бұрын
I'd trade my selection of current rifles for one Valmet. As an AK man and simp of Finland and the 1980s, it's the only right choice. Tube folder. Mags are crazy rare and expensive here
@canadianclassics
@canadianclassics 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that I can own this in Canada but not an AK really speaks to how stupid our gun laws are (also these retail for $8,000 here in Canada)
@mothmagic1
@mothmagic1 10 ай бұрын
About as stupid as the British ones from the sound of that.
@ticket2space
@ticket2space 8 ай бұрын
Tried to flex 😂 but made yourself look dumb for spending 8 grand on an ak
@canadianclassics
@canadianclassics 8 ай бұрын
@@ticket2space never said I paid 8k for an Ak….
@mitchjames9350
@mitchjames9350 5 ай бұрын
@@ticket2space you made yourself look dumb assuming he did.
@McDuggets
@McDuggets 2 ай бұрын
@@ticket2spacepremium ak*
@Generictwat1
@Generictwat1 6 жыл бұрын
4:43 I'm not sure what Indy meant with an add-on rear night sight but the RK actually has a fixed rear night sight too. By folding the rear sight all the way over you basically get a partridge iron sight on which three luminous balls are aligned on a horizontal plain.
@jkausti6737
@jkausti6737 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah I do recall my service one had that too. Of course it was a true RK and not a semi version.
@DL-ij7tf
@DL-ij7tf 6 жыл бұрын
Man that series is awesome
@Generictwat1
@Generictwat1 6 жыл бұрын
Yes I did :D
@monroetoolman
@monroetoolman 6 жыл бұрын
Ha! My first thought as well.
@nyandyn
@nyandyn 6 жыл бұрын
The slotted vertical screw on the rear sight is used for adjusting the night sight after the day sights have been zeroed. On the military version, the rear dots are phosphorescent while the forward sight has a green tritium vial instead of that orange dot.
@Steme94
@Steme94 6 жыл бұрын
The buttstock has storage to cleaningrod and oilbottle
@Heikki_Finland
@Heikki_Finland 6 жыл бұрын
It can also act as a handle if you need to get wielding with the bayonet.
@Pummisuoja
@Pummisuoja 5 жыл бұрын
it can also hold your teeth when jumping in and out of cover
@oddis188
@oddis188 5 жыл бұрын
The story also tells you can find a extra pair of "motivaatio kiikarit" in there if you look closely in the tube and pull the trigger
@mrkeogh
@mrkeogh 4 жыл бұрын
Vodka bottle, you say?
@ElCarboon
@ElCarboon 4 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't storage oil bottle there lmao.
@CommaV9414
@CommaV9414 6 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard RK 62s are very accurate with the standard issue Finnish ammo which is match grade. That’s awesome.
@CaptainPrincess
@CaptainPrincess 6 жыл бұрын
Either the guns not as accurate as people say or Im a hilariously awful shot cause when I was trained with it I consistently hit other peoples targets
@five5105
@five5105 6 жыл бұрын
Major Dickface Hilarious and underrated comment
@alaric_
@alaric_ 6 жыл бұрын
Could be if using new barrels, but if using the basic "beaten by conscripts for three decades"-barrels, nobody could shoot them straight! :D
@Dimetropteryx
@Dimetropteryx 6 жыл бұрын
They shot just fine. But like Major Dickface said, some people had trouble sticking to their own targets on the range, specifically during the rapid fire exercises. Infuriating for those who were actually good shots.
@Tunkkis
@Tunkkis 6 жыл бұрын
Major Dickface that's probably just because they're so beaten up and worn.
@facundocorradini
@facundocorradini 6 жыл бұрын
Funny how the Russians "upgraded" the sights on the AK-12 to almost the same as the Finns already had half a century ago.
@leenajarvinen7098
@leenajarvinen7098 6 жыл бұрын
Facundo Corradini . Just like everything else there.
@KemikaaliNisti
@KemikaaliNisti 4 жыл бұрын
@Merc 1973 That is the original RK 62 which was made in the 60's without the modernized grip, handle and stock. RK 62M is pretty cool looking rifle.
@yasenkrasen1581
@yasenkrasen1581 4 жыл бұрын
@@leenajarvinen7098 I want to remind you that AK appeared in Russia earlier than in Finland.
@yasenkrasen1581
@yasenkrasen1581 4 жыл бұрын
AK in the USSR was a massive and simple infantryman’s weapon that yesterday’s schoolchild could master. This is the reason for the simplicity of the Soviet AK, and not because such sights were unknown to Soviet designers.
@yasenkrasen1581
@yasenkrasen1581 4 жыл бұрын
@zouni Do you think you wrote something smart? I don’t know about the Russians and your people, but specifically you are a rare idiot.
@troy9477
@troy9477 6 жыл бұрын
Heard a lot of good things about these over the years. Nice to see one and see why. The sight upgrade alone is well worth it. Great video as always. Thank you
@linuslindberg8060
@linuslindberg8060 6 жыл бұрын
The Finnish Defense Forces actually used RK62 with folding stock (RK62TP), mainly for bike, and quad riding scouts. It was later pretty much completely replaced by the RK95
@linuslindberg8060
@linuslindberg8060 6 жыл бұрын
vilhelms the great no, the 95 always had a folding stock. Only the civillian model (and maybe export models) had solid stocks
@jussimakarussi
@jussimakarussi 6 жыл бұрын
Apart from the stock the proportions and sights where changed slightly for the RK95. I'd say it has a slightly longer handguard and the rear sight has this L-shaped flip sight with 150m and 300m zero.
@Snaake42
@Snaake42 6 жыл бұрын
jussimakarussi the flash hider is also different, and there are a bunch of other small changes like that.
@jussimakarussi
@jussimakarussi 6 жыл бұрын
Snaake42 Ahh yeah of course, had that one in mind but forgot about it.
@eetumalvikko8327
@eetumalvikko8327 6 жыл бұрын
yeah and the rk95 is capable of shooting riffle genades because it has gas valve under the front sight. and it has mounting holes on left for special optics ie. acog, reddot or night vision
@RichHeart89
@RichHeart89 5 жыл бұрын
I had one of these as my service weapon during my service in the Finnish military in 2009. Some of the guys had newer variants but I was very pleased with how reliable the gun was even through decades of usage 👌
@Alistajaupseeri
@Alistajaupseeri 4 жыл бұрын
Chills go trough my spine when hearing those disassembly sounds. Ahh yes.
@Anal0Avenger
@Anal0Avenger 5 жыл бұрын
During my service, I loved these. Simple, easy to maintain, quite reliable. Easy to repair, at times problems with the barrels was the one thing. Mostly easy to use, not too heavy, just point and shoot. Had that kind of grip, no problems. Also had side-folding-stocks and you can put gun cleaning kin inside it.
@eltenda
@eltenda 6 жыл бұрын
Best Ak " variant"
@GreenHellTube
@GreenHellTube 6 жыл бұрын
Why? The only better thing i can think of is the sights.
@foleymaj
@foleymaj 6 жыл бұрын
At its time of adoption? Absolutely, one could even argue that it was one of the best assault rifles at that time (60s and 70s). Surely something produced today is more efficient, even the RK-95 had some improvements over the RK-62.
@FinnishComrade
@FinnishComrade 6 жыл бұрын
And hard chromed barrels would be nice. But can manage without easily.
@alaric_
@alaric_ 6 жыл бұрын
That is something that you can hear from many shooters, based on their experience. Did you have better variant in mind and why?
@johnpaulstez
@johnpaulstez 6 жыл бұрын
The quality is much higher in these Valmets. The sightblock and the receiver have a smooth finish, meaning the castings and milling were done much better. Aside from the early crude stock and hand guards, this is an AK design produced in a more “western” mindset.
@stormhansen1499
@stormhansen1499 4 жыл бұрын
Ian, I hate you. I spend far too much time watching your eminent videos covering more or less forgotten weapons - in fact, I find myself binge watching them! I spent 12 years in the Norwegian Army during the Cold War, have served twice in the Middle East in the 80's, and have been shooting a wide array of military guns over the last 30 years - including owning quite a handful myself. Your videos and your research / knowledge are in a league of their own! I salute you!
@TheWeemies
@TheWeemies 6 жыл бұрын
There is no "add on" night sight, the night sight is actually the rear sight flipped 180 degrees towards the front.
@mordecaieagle4240
@mordecaieagle4240 6 жыл бұрын
ville leskela I think i referred to valonvahvistin 2000 by that add on-night sight.
@TheWeemies
@TheWeemies 3 жыл бұрын
@@dimapez Yeah except some of them do have it. Even before the modernization project.
@TheWeemies
@TheWeemies 3 жыл бұрын
@@dimapez Kuuskekkoseen saa ihan samalla lailla sen jalan johon kiinnitetään optiikka, ei ole kyllä vakiona muistaakseni. Lähinnä valonvahvistin tohon kiinnitetää.
@hanktorrance6855
@hanktorrance6855 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the fond memories this brings back, drooling over the INTERARMS catalog, I wanted one of these so bad!
@Mrgunsngear
@Mrgunsngear 6 жыл бұрын
Love me some Valmets! Great video as always....
@MatthewSmith-to1hz
@MatthewSmith-to1hz 6 жыл бұрын
Mrgunsngear Channel you're every where
@pRahvi0
@pRahvi0 5 жыл бұрын
You go to Finland asking some Valmets and you'll most likely get a paper machine. Or a tram. Or basically any machine from a sauna thermometer to a forest harvester. :P
@qwertyu19951
@qwertyu19951 3 жыл бұрын
@@pRahvi0 probably you'd be pointed to the nearest farmhouse and their tractor
@jimmcdonald2999
@jimmcdonald2999 3 жыл бұрын
@@MatthewSmith-to1hz ²⅔⅔²I ²²²I is 2²²to a ²²²²year 2and ²²2²⅔2²year and 2nd in 2nd ²
@Lahnapihvi
@Lahnapihvi 6 жыл бұрын
Back in my army days, I was lucky to get an RK with the new, better grips on it and I felt so good when I saw other people with these original grips.
@12345678901234565678
@12345678901234565678 4 жыл бұрын
Sama vika kuin nikolla, ensin ammuin sillä muovikahvaisella, sitten tämmösellä ja sitten taas mupvikahvaisella ja tää malli oli parempi, muovinen oli liukkaampi ja paksumpi etukahva, vähän ehkä liiankin paksu, ei saanu mukavaa otetta.
@Lahnapihvi
@Lahnapihvi 4 жыл бұрын
@@12345678901234565678 se uudempi oli vaan paremmin muotoiltu omaan käteen. Purettaessa se etukahva tosin oli enemmän tiellä. Toisaalta taas olin KK-mies joten suurin osa ajasta PKM oli käytössä ja RK keräs pölyä.
@on2wheels378
@on2wheels378 6 жыл бұрын
My father actually bought one of these in the Long Beach California GEMCO department store in 1984. It's now safely residing in Arizona.
@minisciencedude
@minisciencedude 6 жыл бұрын
Explain what GEMCO is please?
@erena4152
@erena4152 6 жыл бұрын
GEMCO was a membership department store that went out of business in the mid 1980. Sort of the Costco of its day. Many were converted to Target stores. They had a grocery, pharmacy electronic and sporting goods departments. those day they sold guns
@minisciencedude
@minisciencedude 6 жыл бұрын
erena415 Thanks
@on2wheels378
@on2wheels378 6 жыл бұрын
Any of you guys remember the other store FEDCO? Hahaha. I bought a deep freezer (Amana, still have it and it's still running as quiet as a mouse in my garage) in 1998 when they went out of business, for 100 dollars (Buena Park Ca store). FEDCO had the better camping stuff but no firearms.
@CitySwimmah
@CitySwimmah 3 жыл бұрын
I fired some rounds with this version at the military service (automatic version but otherwise identical) even thou we primarly used the RK 95 TP in service. Thanks for this video, these guns were and still are rock solid in finnish winter
@jooger69
@jooger69 6 жыл бұрын
I think there are a few things you got wrong. -The design was based on an AK acquired from Poland, not Russia. -The night sights can be accessed when you flip the rear sight all the way to the front. -RK62 magazines were designed so that they would not fit an AK, but AK magazines would fit an RK62 -RK62 TP is the folding stock variant used by the military. -I think the trigger is also different to an AK.
@Itapirkanmaa2
@Itapirkanmaa2 6 жыл бұрын
The design is definitely Russian, although the original pattern arms were acquired through Poland! The RK magazines do fit the AK-47. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bbygrZqErry9pZc.htmlm10s
@backfl1pboy
@backfl1pboy 5 жыл бұрын
And in military use there is full auto option besides semi auto
@strahinjastevic7480
@strahinjastevic7480 4 жыл бұрын
you're bending the words to make it seem less russian, whats the problem with finland finding the AK platform usefull in their weather conditions? Not like no countries ever made their own versions
@harri9885
@harri9885 4 жыл бұрын
What I find even more interesting is how the Israeli Galil was a copy of the Finnish RK62.
@Mixu.
@Mixu. 4 жыл бұрын
I find it interesting how the magazines are basically designed for fighting against Russia. Did my service with a 62 and didn't know that.
@JonneTopiRausku
@JonneTopiRausku 6 жыл бұрын
Military also had folding stocks for paratrooper use. I had one when i served in Utti. I wasn't a parajaeger but we all used those old Rk62TP:s (TP for "Taittoperä, folding stock) Most of those were built in the 80's though and i believe the parajaegers used ak47s rifles at that time. Also the rear night sight should be there, just flip the rear sight all the way forward. At least later pattern rifles have.
@pude6621
@pude6621 2 жыл бұрын
I also served in Utti and we had RK62TP:s.
@petrusinvictus3603
@petrusinvictus3603 6 жыл бұрын
Whow! Takes me back 30 years. When I was in the Finland Navy. You have a good piece.
@Khailyana
@Khailyana 6 жыл бұрын
These rifles with this exact setup are still in use. (obviously only difference being it's full-auto). I came back home from "UUSIMAA 17" military refresher training just yesterday and i saw these rifles being still in use. They still fire as accurate as the shooter is. My rifle was sako made RK-62 made in 1994 and i shot 92 out of 100 at 150m. (after 10 rounds of aligment shots then 10 rounds for the actual score) Last time i fired a gun was in the mandatory military training that was 5 years ago. Back then my best score was 93/100. So in a nutshell if you are a good shooter these rifles will deliver (in my experience at least) and you will hit the target if you want to. (All of this was shot with the iron sights).
@AlmaNaakka
@AlmaNaakka 5 жыл бұрын
-90 we shot with all kinds of wartime antique shit
@McKollu
@McKollu 6 жыл бұрын
Really good video once again, Ian. However, the folding stock version IS actually in military service, its designation is RK62TP (taittoperä - folding stock) and is mainly used by motorbike troops and other specialized roles who need a more compact rifle. Just wanted to share this little info. :)
@myfaceismyshield5963
@myfaceismyshield5963 2 жыл бұрын
Some military police drivers and jäger under-sergeants also had folding stocks when I was training with them if I remember correctly from my army days
@jonathananatrella2964
@jonathananatrella2964 6 жыл бұрын
Finnish QC seems really good, I've had overwhelmingly positive experiences with Finnish AKs, shotguns, and Mosins.
@vertie2090
@vertie2090 5 жыл бұрын
they focus hard on quality and materials cos those things need to remain operational in Finland's harsh arctic environment
@sabbysky
@sabbysky 5 жыл бұрын
Idk why this video was suddenly recommended to me, but that's a pretty nostaglic weapon. Used it 8 years ago during my military training :)
@thomasc7610
@thomasc7610 6 жыл бұрын
Finally. I've been waiting for this video! Ian always delivers.
@Raptorade
@Raptorade 3 жыл бұрын
”And it’s fairly uncommon to find ones with this old style of corrugated grip” Oh nah I served with one as late as 2016
@karhu7581
@karhu7581 2 жыл бұрын
They're definitely the minority these days. Of the 72 rifles in our group of recruits, only three or four had the cheesegrater on the front.
@jkausti6737
@jkausti6737 6 жыл бұрын
Little interesting tidbit; the stock actually holds the field cleaning gear for the weapon. You can see the cover in the end of the stock in this video.
@XplosivCookie
@XplosivCookie 6 жыл бұрын
I don't think anyone uses it anymore, the little baggie of cleaning gear is too bulky for the tube. Now guys just fiddle with the lid, playing notes by plucking it.
@AutomatikBalalaika
@AutomatikBalalaika 6 жыл бұрын
Keeping the cleaning kit in the stock makes noise while moving.
@XtreeM_FaiL
@XtreeM_FaiL 6 жыл бұрын
Automatik Balalaika Not when a piece of cloth is wrapped around.
@AutomatikBalalaika
@AutomatikBalalaika 6 жыл бұрын
XtreeM FaiL True
@nadabutsi7537
@nadabutsi7537 6 жыл бұрын
Mostly conscripts are using that hole to smoke cgiarettes with and not get detected by the sergeants during light discipline :P
@RD-170
@RD-170 Жыл бұрын
4:44 Some notes about the sights on the RK, the rear night sight is not an add-on. It’s under the aperture, you just flip the sight forwards, and it also acts as a CQB sight. You can see it at 3:44 The screws on the sides are also never used for windage, they’re for zeroing the rifle, every serviceman spends their first firing sessions just adjusting the sights
@FuryStudios
@FuryStudios 6 жыл бұрын
This gun and its newer variants are just so good. -40C in northern Finland during my military service and this gun never jammed.
@andybreadley429
@andybreadley429 6 жыл бұрын
By the way, disassembly of this gun is even easier than original AK and they got rid of that ugly little lever that holds the gas tube on place.
@jkausti6737
@jkausti6737 6 жыл бұрын
In the Finnish military you had to learn how to disassemble and then assemble this rifle in a minute. Blindfolded. I'm not kidding, it's actually a lot easier than it sounds and I don't remember anyone of my squad failing in that after a bit of practice.
@Lahnapihvi
@Lahnapihvi 6 жыл бұрын
That blindfolded thing is not done in every place. We never had to do that.
@Asko83
@Asko83 6 жыл бұрын
Back when I was in we did the blindfolded thing just for fun but it was not mandatory or even taught that way. It was enough for the miltary that we knew how the clean the gun and dissasemble/assemble it.
@Lahnapihvi
@Lahnapihvi 6 жыл бұрын
Then again, I was a machine gunner, so i was mostly playing around with PKM during my service.
@Dimetropteryx
@Dimetropteryx 6 жыл бұрын
J Kausti We didn't do it blindfolded, but it wasn't really necessary either. We did it so often that by the end, everyone could have done it blindfolded, drunk and with both hands tied behind their back.
@whazzpoppin8568
@whazzpoppin8568 11 ай бұрын
The RK-62 is incredibly durable. Currently doing my military service with an RK built in 1968, still shoots perfectly and never jams. Incredible rifle to say the least. Edit: The RK I currently use is also looks identical to the one in the video with the exact same grips.
@eetuprehti7187
@eetuprehti7187 6 жыл бұрын
Nice video! Some comments I noticed (may have been mentioned already): - Nightsigth in the back can be used when flipping the sight fully forwards - The stock is hollow and typically contains cleaning equipments - Newer version of clips are made of plastic
@IstvanYoutube
@IstvanYoutube 6 жыл бұрын
We (obviously) had the actual RK62 (full auto) version of this when I did some time in the Finnish army, it was crude but very effective. Also super simple mechanically (we had to be able to disassemble and reassemble the gun blindfolded lying down on our backs within a minute and it was perfectly doable). Good fun shooting these, accurate and does the job right
@dailyshit6329
@dailyshit6329 3 жыл бұрын
Hello from Finland! That front night sight should be used with the rear night sight which is intergrated in Factory sight. Just flip it over and there you have it, Full night sight combination 😎
3 жыл бұрын
Oh, didn't remember that one. But for my defence it's been over a decade from my service in military with this gun.
@iroquoisplissken3583
@iroquoisplissken3583 6 жыл бұрын
"I've got a valmet in my helmet" - Dugan
@locknloadvideo
@locknloadvideo 6 жыл бұрын
jesus I had to control f to find this. PATHETIC!
@Jalkamies
@Jalkamies 5 жыл бұрын
I had the pleasure of serving with the rk62, the rk95tp and the rk62m1, they're all fantastic and indestructible rifles. The rk62m1 was the latest assault rifle released when I served, it's the same rifle but they replaced the buttstock with a telescopic plastic one. Great for indoor shooting.
@Tezcax
@Tezcax 6 жыл бұрын
Valmet really produced everything. We had many Valmet tractors back in the day, I didn't know they also made guns
@Saareem
@Saareem 4 жыл бұрын
Valmet stands for VALtion METallitehdas which means "The state metal factory" and they really produced everything metal. They used to make these small firearms (sold to Beretta) and even mortars and artillery during the war time. Nowadays they are specialized in making paper machines.
@claudiodominguez.
@claudiodominguez. 3 жыл бұрын
I remember when I was a wee little lad in the late 70s, the M62 was my least liked battle rifle. Today, if I could only wrap my arms around one, how tastes change as one matures.
@jpenna1976
@jpenna1976 6 жыл бұрын
That magazine lanyard loop was used during conscript service to attach the magazine into rifle with a leather strap. This only when not shooting with the rifles of course. This was to avoid conscripts loosing mags into the forest.
@Sakkehattu
@Sakkehattu 6 жыл бұрын
I read from an older manual, that they're used for distinguishing between non-tracer and tracer mags at night. Tie a piece of string on magloop to know which magazine has tracers in it.
@TimoSorvoja
@TimoSorvoja 6 жыл бұрын
I used the military version (RK-62TP. TP = Folding stock) during my military service during late 90's. It was the model with the smoother pistol and front grip that covered the gas tube. It also HAD the folding tubular stock which made it easier to handle/carry in certain situations. It was pretty solid AK-rifle.
@michailpanchev7292
@michailpanchev7292 6 жыл бұрын
I like the way the gas tube attaches to the receiver. Makes the whole design much simplier(and easier to make),compared to the original AK layout.
@tdugong
@tdugong 6 жыл бұрын
So, basically the Finns turn Russian stuff into perfection, then. Nice.
@KGB_watch_you
@KGB_watch_you 6 жыл бұрын
amin johari and what will you do, if you will loose cover of reciver? ;)
@tdugong
@tdugong 6 жыл бұрын
Сазонов Александр just put on an AK cover? Ian did say it's identical to russian made stuff with external add ons.
@KGB_watch_you
@KGB_watch_you 6 жыл бұрын
amin johari may be, but AK cover have no sight
@r3xv
@r3xv 6 жыл бұрын
Then you just aim at the barrels length, its not the most accurate way but it can be done.
@XtreeM_FaiL
@XtreeM_FaiL 6 жыл бұрын
Сазонов Александр A lot of pushups.
@pekkamakela2566
@pekkamakela2566 6 жыл бұрын
That type of pistol grip was called "terrorist version" in finish army last year when I was serving there
@vesasaarto
@vesasaarto 6 жыл бұрын
That's the term I heard as well.
@linocazzofino5852
@linocazzofino5852 5 жыл бұрын
Pekka Mäkelä Who cares
@Pummisuoja
@Pummisuoja 4 жыл бұрын
Afghanin rynkky
@KazeAkiyama
@KazeAkiyama 4 жыл бұрын
@@linocazzofino5852 I don't care but it's pretty interesting info.
@harri9885
@harri9885 4 жыл бұрын
jonne ;)
@aessu
@aessu 3 жыл бұрын
We still had this pattern of RK62s in service when I did my conscription service in Finnish military, back in 2007. Most of them were the pattern with updated pistol grips and front handguards.
@bretthompson3865
@bretthompson3865 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, sir. The milled receiver M-76 rifles were also made in 7.62 NATO with plastic furniture. I lucked into one at a local gun shop just before the assault weapons ban and it's one of the very last rifles I'd ever sell. Also a lot easier to tote around than my M-78....
@ulfvonweimuller4433
@ulfvonweimuller4433 6 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention that the stock is hollow, and in the end of it there is a lid. It is for keeping in oil brush, cleaning brush, their 2-part rod, a little oil bottle, and the sight setting key. I'm not sure if the imported version includest them. edit: and the hollow grip is to hold some rayon inside of it, for cleaning.
@Orvil.
@Orvil. 6 жыл бұрын
For me the grip was hollow to hold snow in it to keep the gun cold and wet for rusting
@karhu7581
@karhu7581 2 жыл бұрын
We would just hide whatever the fuck we "needed" in the woods in there, the cleaning kit would fit better in a pocket anyway.
@XplosivCookie
@XplosivCookie 6 жыл бұрын
I laughed a little when you showed the insides, with everything taken apart. Never seen one so clean :'D
@tommyk.208
@tommyk.208 6 жыл бұрын
Had a pleasure to serve with the old furniture Rk62. Most had the new furniture Rk's in my unit but I actually prefered the old. It just fitted my hands better and I think it gave the gun a distinctive look.
@aidanfarnan4683
@aidanfarnan4683 6 жыл бұрын
Fun M62 utility facts: the tubular stock is hollow and holds the cleaning rod and some swabs for the barrel, the trigger guard was internationally designed to be big enough for a gloved finger, and the three prongs of the flash hider are sharpened so it can be used as a wire cutter: just jam the wire between two of the prongs and rotate the gun to tension the wire and slice into it with the sharp edges.
@mathiaskarlsson1837
@mathiaskarlsson1837 4 жыл бұрын
The Finn's have always been very proud of things produced in Finland
@hockeytero
@hockeytero 6 жыл бұрын
There is still rk62tp (taittoperä=folding stock) rifles in service today along with all the other rk62 variants. Sometimes they are given to scouts or other personnel that would need that, sometimes randomly.
@TheSpekkel1
@TheSpekkel1 5 жыл бұрын
iso osa on sysätty rajavartiostolle. kaveri on lapissa rajalla töissä ja sanoo että heillä ei paljon muita kivääreitä, TRG:n lisäksi olekkaan. tämä tieto 3 vuoden takaa mutta luulisi pitävänsä kutinsa tänäkin päivänä.
@oskarlonnqvist7074
@oskarlonnqvist7074 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was given one when doing peacekeeping training (amphibious taskforce training) in the Finnish army! A lot of my buddy's were jealous! :D
@brorjordas1979
@brorjordas1979 6 жыл бұрын
Accidentally stumbled upon this video.. Wow. Nice! Brings back good old memories cleaning up and shooting this awesome rifle.
@akimalinen7545
@akimalinen7545 6 жыл бұрын
I'm starting to miss mine, I had so much fun playing with it. This thing is super reliable and very accurate still at 300 meters. At 150m a good shooter scores nothing but bullseyes. The only unreliability issues happen with wooden blank ammo that blocks up the blank adapter if snow or oil gets mixed with the wooden dust. With live rounds, I can't recall any problems during one year of weekly usage. Also, there is a folding stock RK62 military variant, I was using it (RK62 tp). It is mostly used by motorcycle troops, paratroopers and military police units.
@ei23no
@ei23no 6 жыл бұрын
in the finnish military guns with this style of furniture are commonly referred to as "reikäjuusto" or "hole cheese"(swiss cheese?) in english
@XplosivCookie
@XplosivCookie 6 жыл бұрын
Ribbed for your pleasure ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@TheJere213
@TheJere213 6 жыл бұрын
I'm currently in the army and we call it "terroristimalli"(terrorist model). Also my gun has swiss cheese hand guard or what ever its called and the newer type of pistol grip.(Very accurate gun, i hit 9/10 times to 10 and once to the 9 when we were adjusting the sights)
@williamsxd2004
@williamsxd2004 6 жыл бұрын
Good gun
@jussieronen3707
@jussieronen3707 6 жыл бұрын
God of Hatred Just don't compare these too, the Rk is actually a very good gun.
@odeliinih
@odeliinih 6 жыл бұрын
Is your name really Erik Harris? Bruh in case you dont know the meme behind it google it.
@VesaGuardian
@VesaGuardian 5 жыл бұрын
I carried one just like this while serving for my country for eight months of mandatory service back in the seventies. The gun issued for me as a personal weapon was very much worn down externally but it worked like a dream. I never thought that I could become a marksman, but it turned out to be a really easy gun to use and surprisingly accurate too. I wish I could buy one of those beautiful guns today. I also hope never to be in situation that I´d have to use that gun against any enemy or foe.
@santtilagmailcom
@santtilagmailcom 6 жыл бұрын
The lanyard loop at the bottom of the mag is there to tie the mag to the gun so if you accidentally release the mag, it'll stay with you. Also there is a possibility to get snow and ice under the bottom plate of the magazine which could make the whole thing come apart. When the plate is tied to the gun, you wouldn't loose the small black plate if it slips open. And as some already pointed out, the rear sight flips over to be a used as a night sight with the night front sight post. The old style front hand grip is superior compared to the newer version. You could assemble all the moving parts with the gas tube and slap them in their place way more quickly than with the grip that covered the gas tube. I was the only one in our squad who had that old style grip and I was totally unbeatable in the timed disassembly/assembly races they made us do.
@RJM1011
@RJM1011 3 жыл бұрын
I have always wanted to own one of these there were a few in the UK before the semi auto ban. I think this would be a great rifle for somebody to set up US production and people would want them even today if you built them right.
@-42-47
@-42-47 3 жыл бұрын
Finns don't attach (or snap on) "bayonets" to their rifles, they attach rifles to their knives.
@gingergorilla695
@gingergorilla695 3 жыл бұрын
As all true men should. Now excuse me, I wish to hit a tank with my sword
@arielgarcia5065
@arielgarcia5065 3 жыл бұрын
To their puukkos lol
@Tiro_Chopper
@Tiro_Chopper 3 жыл бұрын
I really like the aesthetic of this thing. Very sober, clean look
@premierS3
@premierS3 5 жыл бұрын
RK62 with this exact furniture was my service weapon still in 2000s. Very reliable. Some of my friends had the RK95 and hated it.
@andrewince8824
@andrewince8824 6 жыл бұрын
It appears more than just a Finnish AK variant. It seems to be an upgrade. Almost inline stock, simplified construction and Finnish name.
@Ounouh
@Ounouh 6 жыл бұрын
I believe what they (we) were looking for was something that was as reliable as AK, didn't cost too much to make or maintain, and make it just sturdy. Ofc the 7.62×39mm (like in AK) was the only option for caliber for better lethal range and not getting stopped or redirected so easily when shot in forest and bushes. Russians tend to come up with simple and working solutions, what they lack is quality in crafting what they design. They go by the principle of more is better as Finns go with "we can't afford to be constantly making x, so lets make it so it lasts" aka quality. When you do not have resources, you better make the little you have count...
@strahinjastevic7480
@strahinjastevic7480 4 жыл бұрын
every european AK clone is in some sence an upgrade to the russian one, it's just that diffent eastern block (or non eastern block) countries needed different things on their standad issue rifle
@HeilAmarth
@HeilAmarth 3 жыл бұрын
@@strahinjastevic7480 AK was of stamped steel. Finnish RK is of milled steel, all carved up. A totally different weapon in that sense. But yeah, the mechanism Russians stole from Sturmgewehr were perfect.
@strahinjastevic7480
@strahinjastevic7480 3 жыл бұрын
@@HeilAmarth "Stole from the STG "? the only thing the guns have incommon is a curved mag and thats becouse of the calibres, since stacking one round over another naturally makes a curve.
@strahinjastevic7480
@strahinjastevic7480 3 жыл бұрын
@@HeilAmarth Also the actual original mass produced Russian "AK-47" was milled, the AKM (AK Modernized) on the other hand was stamped.
@mashirohakase
@mashirohakase 6 жыл бұрын
Finnish firearms are awesome!
@singland1852
@singland1852 6 жыл бұрын
真白 I was in the finnish military for a year and got promoted to a sergeant after finishing my service, we had this challenge from our captain that promised one extra day of vacation if someone can disassemble the RK-62 with a blindfold 10 times in under a minute. Guess who's the guy who got the extra day.
@AatuB
@AatuB 6 жыл бұрын
Mikael Laurila Well done.
@djin_yt
@djin_yt 6 жыл бұрын
Ei ookkaa helppo homma xd
@okgfwij
@okgfwij 5 жыл бұрын
And after u've left the service for the reserve u miss ur RK whenever u leave home or wake up at night.
@sairassiili
@sairassiili 4 жыл бұрын
I served at 2010's with a gun furbished just like this one, from 1969. My service gun was around three times my age. I didnt have a single misfire or feeding failure, and the gun shot perfectly accurate.
@nikolasr88
@nikolasr88 5 жыл бұрын
I had a gun almost like this while I was in defence forces. Only difference was that my spring came loose from the rod and was easier to clean than this type of spring. I even remember the serial, 291 376.
@bradmarthafocker4285
@bradmarthafocker4285 6 жыл бұрын
Well done Finland, well done.
@Taistelukalkkuna
@Taistelukalkkuna 6 жыл бұрын
5:40 During the service, we secured the mag to rifle with leather strap (Irtohihna for us Finnish speakers, IIRC). Edit: Attachment to trigger guard, obviously. =)
@XplosivCookie
@XplosivCookie 6 жыл бұрын
Is that what those straps were for? We never used them.
@Taistelukalkkuna
@Taistelukalkkuna 6 жыл бұрын
Among other things, we had the old canvas combat webbing and backbag (aka Sipulisäkki). Other was to secure stuff to backbag.
@scanjett
@scanjett 6 жыл бұрын
those straps are good at winter so you don't lose them if they fall off
@harri6214
@harri6214 6 жыл бұрын
The loop on the bottom of thee magazine is also for tying the magazine to the rifle (conscripts would use leather straps provided for this and other purposes) so you don't loose the magazine if it falls off accidentally when you bump the magazine release somehow.This is of course for training purposes only and not a wartime thing.
@ericlinck6664
@ericlinck6664 6 жыл бұрын
Awesomeness as usual from FW’s!
@PeliKarhu600
@PeliKarhu600 5 жыл бұрын
Tärkeä muistutus jokaselle jolla on oma rk, ÄLKÄÄ MYYKÖ, JA JOS MYYTTE NII TIETÄKÄÄ ETTÄ NE ON KERÄILY HARVINAISUUKSIA, muistakaa pitää hinta korkeella Koskee myös vanhoja pelti lippaita, amerikassa yhdestä valmetin lippaasta saa 500€
@Luihuable
@Luihuable 4 жыл бұрын
Montahan sataa tuhatta RK'ta tulee markkinoille kun PV vaihtaa asetta? Niinpä, sinnehän se keräily harvinaisuus status häviää.
@Kuutti_original
@Kuutti_original 4 жыл бұрын
@@Luihuable RK62:n modernisoinnin myötä siihen menee viellä kymmeniä vuosia että oltaisiin valmiita asetta vaihtamaan.
@PeliKarhu600
@PeliKarhu600 4 жыл бұрын
@@Luihuable nii kai, mutta sitä saa odotella viä monta kymmentä vuotta, ja mahtaako modernisoiduilla olla samaa arvoa kuin alkuperäsellä 1962 rakennetulla?
@RyuakiraX
@RyuakiraX 4 жыл бұрын
Jenkkien kysymät peltilippaat tyypillisesti on 5.56:sta eikä 7.62:sta. Lähinnä käytetty lähes pelkästään jenkeille myynnissä olleissa Valmet M71 -malleissa.
@coolsenjoyer
@coolsenjoyer 3 жыл бұрын
@@Luihuable Tuo armeijaylijäämän myynti siviileille oli simppeliä pulttilukkojen kanssa mutta rynkkyjen kanssa ne pitäisi joko muuntaa pelkästään itselataaviksi tai jenkkimarkkinoille vietävissä pistää osiksi ja runko tuhota ATF:n vaatimusten mukaisesti, eli tuskin tullaan kovinkaan montaa tuhatta Valmettilaista saamaan siviilimarkkinoille sitten kun rynkkyä vaihdetaan.
@irisheart5920
@irisheart5920 6 жыл бұрын
If I remember hearing correctly and being awake during one of those countless classes back in the military, the AR10 was actually the preferred weapon during the tests, it apparently fulfilled almost all of Finlands needs and wants from a rifle, only the AK won in the end due to being immensely cheaper to buy and maintain. Also, those "bike grip" guns were affectionately called either "old trash" or "Michelin Man", which I found quite hilarious. Also weirdly, the RK95TP is actually heavier than the RK62 and probably due to the stock design, much more front heavy, uncomfortably so at times, causing it to be a bit unstable and harder to handle at certain situations.
@jussimakarussi
@jussimakarussi 6 жыл бұрын
Iris Heart The weight comes mostly from the heavier barrel (also the reason for the front heaviness). Personally I prefer the 95, for ergonomic and a hint of sentimental reasons.
@irisheart5920
@irisheart5920 6 жыл бұрын
Was the barrel of the 62 that much different from the 95? I've never really got my hands on the 62 aside for a few times at the range during basic training, been spending most of my time with the 95TP after that.
@jussimakarussi
@jussimakarussi 6 жыл бұрын
Iris Heart visually you really can't tell the difference in the barrels. Never either shot the 62 during my service, only afterwards. Only use we had for 62:s during my service was violent close combat practice hitting each other with them.
@KalleKilponen
@KalleKilponen 6 жыл бұрын
I wonder how much the upgrades of the "new" RK-62M versions affect the weight and handling.
@irisheart5920
@irisheart5920 6 жыл бұрын
Kalle Kilponen It ain't that much heavier or lighter, much more manageable though as the new stock isn't so retarded like the old one. All around a much nicer gun to have and you don't have to take shit from snobby 95 brats anymore as the new M is just as tacticool if not even more.
@jonpa3109
@jonpa3109 6 жыл бұрын
The RK62 is a fine rifle. I served a year last year and used this same rifle with automatic fire tho for 16 weeks. The rest of the year I used the RK95TP which was even better than this rifle many ways. It was very accurate, it was very handy when you wasn't doing something where you did need the gun because of the folding stock. Any of those guns (I had 3 RKs during my service) did not jam or do anything unpredictable. I still can remember all my 3 serial numbers. I miss that little fella.
@jep1st
@jep1st 2 жыл бұрын
I used the RK95TP during my military service which is the newer model of RK62 made in the 90's and I really liked that rifle. It was quite accurate for an AK based weapon even at 300m and I never experienced any jams even during winter. The 95 version also has folding stock and you can shoot rifle grenades with it. It also has railings for more attachments.
@Taltsi
@Taltsi 6 жыл бұрын
7:20 The military does have a folding stock variant called RK 62 TP. TP meaning folding stock :P
@foleymaj
@foleymaj 6 жыл бұрын
True, but not manufactured or issued in large quantities. AFAIK only some motorcycle couriers, MP's and navy personel might get issued one.
@banaana1234
@banaana1234 6 жыл бұрын
Yep, didnt see too many of those when i was in the army. I had one because i was a motorcycle courier as you said. Most troops that need or benefit from a folding stock nowadays get the RK 95.
@Salesman9001
@Salesman9001 6 жыл бұрын
That folding stock was absolutely dreadful even the type-56 folding stock was better. It was so bad that MP unit removed their stocks entirely
@banaana1234
@banaana1234 6 жыл бұрын
What was so bad about it? I found it quite usable. It could have been a bit sturdier but other than that it was adequate.
@vesasaarto
@vesasaarto 6 жыл бұрын
I used a TP as an MP in 2013, mine was made in -72 if I remember correctly. Didn't have or see any issues with it being too loose or wobbly. Some were even extremely tight requiring frustrating amounts of force to fold it. The best part about the folding stock was that it folded to the right side, so it was possible to fold it with optics attached to the left side to the gun. The stock tilts downwards a littlebit, so the bolt handle could cycle while being fired. Accessing the fire selector was a bit difficult though. I always wondered, why do the russian sidefolders fold to the left, and still have the optics mount on the left side (typical Russian logic?). The stock could be folded if you pushed it downwards first. It held itself folded on the side by friction in the joint, so folding it back just required a bit of force. Some stocks were so tight, that the easiest way to fold it was to turn it upside down and pulling it upwards with your thumb on the receiver and other fingers on the stock. It was also possible (but not adviced) to slam it on your chest in order to fold it quickly (a bit painful with a stiff stock :D) All in all 5/5, would service again.
@MythicFrost
@MythicFrost 6 жыл бұрын
Galils are actually made with finnish machinery used to make RK and then there is Valmet M82 which is bullpup version of RK.
@ac1dP1nk
@ac1dP1nk 6 жыл бұрын
MythicFrost bwaaa 7.62x39 bullpup fills me with awe
@striker8paints
@striker8paints 6 жыл бұрын
MythicFrost I did not know that but it makes sense. I know valmet parts are hard to find for some of their ak variants but galil parts will work with no problems most of the time.
@leenajarvinen7098
@leenajarvinen7098 6 жыл бұрын
In finland valmet mags cost 1.50€ in annual military auction in tampere :) they are used but still very reliable.
@Luk4zguy97
@Luk4zguy97 6 жыл бұрын
Would just like to point out that the night sight is on the bottom of the rear sigh, so if you flip the rear sight 180 dergeer it become the night sight. The screw just in front of the sight is for elevation adjustment while using it in "night mode".
@no_one01-5
@no_one01-5 6 жыл бұрын
Oh Rk 62, how I miss you. This brings back memories.
@alexk2418
@alexk2418 6 жыл бұрын
no one. Ampumaradalle sitten!! Hopi hopi! 😊✌️
@titiparisien7485
@titiparisien7485 6 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual! Do you alos plan a video on the Israeli Galil, which is petterned after the Valmet?
@erena4152
@erena4152 6 жыл бұрын
Ian did make a video for a Galil Hadar II: A Ban-Era Commercial Galil kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pLeeY5d1xMjMaGg.html
@PeliKarhu600
@PeliKarhu600 5 жыл бұрын
Hieno ase, ja tarkka, parhaat tähtäimet ak mallisessa kiväärissä, oman kokemuksen perusteella ainut huono puoli täs kivääris on vaikea hallittavuus sarjatulella, ja mitä tarkkuutee tulee nii se on ampujasta kiinni, kapiaisten 2 suurinta valituksen aihetta oli hätäily liipasimen kaa ja että tähtäimiä ei kiristetty kunnolla jolloin tähtäimien säädökset hyppii, mää vähä veikkaa että tyypit jokka haukkuu tätä paskaks aseeks ei joko osaa yksinkertasesti ampua tai muutenvaa ei tykkää mallista Valmistuslaatu on ylivoimasesti paras ku vertaa muihin massa tuottettuihin ak sukuisiin, oman palvelus aseen valmistus vuosi oli 74, en oikee usko että monen aseen runko kestäis varusmiesten käytös niin pitkää
@khatack
@khatack 6 жыл бұрын
RK62 is definitely a solid service rifle, I really liked it.
@kopiovastaava5785
@kopiovastaava5785 6 жыл бұрын
It's nothing special.
@hegetsu
@hegetsu 6 жыл бұрын
In military model, there is space for cleaning equipment inside of the stock tube. Rear sight has also night sight. You can see them, when you flip the sight all around the front. Rear night sight is adjusted in that little screw. Good, accurate and reliable gun. I have used it a lot during my service in finnish defence forces.
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