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Savage Automatic Pistols: Overview

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Forgotten Weapons

Forgotten Weapons

8 жыл бұрын

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Today I am taking a look at Savage automatic pistols as a general group. Savage produced about a quarter million pistols in both .32 and .380 caliber, divided between the models 1907, 1915, and 1917.
What are the differences, and what was the timeline of their development? I'll go through all of this, and also some of Savage's memorable advertising and the basic disassembly process. This should answer all your questions about why some have hammers and some don't (actually, none of them have hammers, technically...) and what's up with those two different frame shapes.

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@99jws
@99jws 8 жыл бұрын
I have a 1907 and a 1917 in 32. Both are fun little shooters! I knew an older gentleman who had owned a 1915 since the time he was a trombone player in his high school marching band. It seems that his father had worried about him traveling on the bus to the away games, and so bought him the Savage to carry in his trombone case! Imagine that now.
@googiegress7459
@googiegress7459 2 жыл бұрын
I suppose the fife player must have made do with a fife bayonet!
@christhesmith
@christhesmith 13 күн бұрын
These days, he'd be "trombone .40" I'll let myself out....
@rick2112rkrk
@rick2112rkrk 4 жыл бұрын
Talk about forgotten...I was just going through a box of my late father-in-law's stuff that's been sitting untouched since he passed in '94. Low and behold what to I come upon is a mint condition 1907. It looks like it's never been fired. Came here to learn more about it.
@willborneman5461
@willborneman5461 Жыл бұрын
maaann! jealous! 🤬🤣
@rick2112rkrk
@rick2112rkrk Жыл бұрын
@@willborneman5461 I'd love to know more about how he got it. He wasn't a gun person. That side of the family is Sicilian and there have been allegations made about some of my father-in-laws siblings, leading me to wonder if the gun had an interesting story to tell.
@clothar23
@clothar23 8 жыл бұрын
I won a 1917 Savage in .380 in a game of blackjack. It is a damn fine pistol.
@louismaita2767
@louismaita2767 3 жыл бұрын
I inherited my fathers Savage which according to the video is probably the 1917 model. I greatly appreciated how to break down this weapon. It probably has been "80" years since it has been broken down to be cleaned. My father flew PBY Catalinas during WWII and I think so did this weapon.. I dumped oil in every possible crevice to get the gun to start moving! Finally I was able with the help of the video to break down the weapon. I will cherish this weapon and pass it on to my children.
@thinman8621
@thinman8621 3 жыл бұрын
I have one of the 1907 pistols. Take down requires no tools. Clever design. Good little shooter. Double stack mag gives it a leg up over most of the competition from that era. Thanks Mr. Ian.
@Nukle0n
@Nukle0n 8 жыл бұрын
The way the fire control group comes out is really neat, seems pretty smooth for a 100 year old gun.
@adrianotero7963
@adrianotero7963 Жыл бұрын
Is there a video ?
@Michael_Smith-Red_No.5
@Michael_Smith-Red_No.5 8 жыл бұрын
I'd never heard of these, before. Of course, now I want one, particularly the 17. It just looks like something The Rocketeer would brandish.
@michaelbrooker1433
@michaelbrooker1433 5 жыл бұрын
The delayed blowback was effected by the twist of the bullet acting against the lug on the barrel. A clever bit of engineering.
@jeffcaldwell2991
@jeffcaldwell2991 5 жыл бұрын
As always Ian very useful information. Just purchased a Model 1907 2nd Model at auction for $150.00. In very good condition. Nobody was interested in it. Also picked up a blued Smith & Wesson 32 Safety Hammerless 1st Model for $175 at the same auction. Also in good shape. Great deals can still be found in the world of Forgotten Weapons. It just takes some hunting, patience.....and luck. Luck is always important. Keep up the great work.
@Tired_Sloth
@Tired_Sloth 8 жыл бұрын
"A timid woman will remain cool and show presence of mind when in peril, if she knows a 10-shot Savage is at hand" Thats some pretty hillarious advertising. If I might ask what's the most ludicrous or funny advertisement for a firearm people have come up with?
@michaelj595
@michaelj595 8 жыл бұрын
+Tired Sloth Glock perfection
@mysterious.broadcast
@mysterious.broadcast 8 жыл бұрын
+michael johnson Ooo, shots fired XD
@VMEMotor5
@VMEMotor5 2 жыл бұрын
The Iver Johnson revolver ads with the little girl in bed holding a revolver and the ad claiming "Accidental Discharge Impossible"
@mumzly1
@mumzly1 8 жыл бұрын
My grandfather carried one of these as a railroad cop. My dad still has it. If I remember right it's the '17 in .32, but it's been years since I've actually seen the pistol.
@lowaltitude4928
@lowaltitude4928 3 жыл бұрын
I used to own the 32 ACP model with the shrouded hammer and grip safety. It was additionally stamped B.S.A.C. the abbreviation for British South Africa Company. I guess it was issued to BSAC employees for self protection in what later became Southern Rhodesia. I found it very nice to shoot and quite accurate too.
@LocustMtn
@LocustMtn Жыл бұрын
Too bad you no longer have it. That's pretty rare.
@adamdarmstaedter1256
@adamdarmstaedter1256 4 жыл бұрын
I just became the proud owner of a Model 1917. I got it at a pawn shop for about $225. The outside was rough, but the innards look good. The mag holds 10, but it has high AND low catch holes. I took it apart and re-blued the parts and it looks pretty good. I'm trying to get some pearloid grips made by a local knife maker.
@hawks1ish
@hawks1ish 8 жыл бұрын
3:21 apparently they used to call a pump action rifle a "trombone action" at least it says so in the ad I might get out my trombone action 870 and make some beautiful music :P
@CrashFactory666
@CrashFactory666 8 жыл бұрын
I am blown away by how advanced these pistols are for when they were made. Thanks for the great video!.
@adrianotero7963
@adrianotero7963 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video, just what I was looking for to start shopping....marvelous design and so simple to break down....
@rocko2535
@rocko2535 7 жыл бұрын
Nice video, not many for this great historical weapon. I'm lucky to own two of them. 1917"s in .380 cal.
@mopardart75
@mopardart75 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this video. I had a few questions about a 1907 Savage .32 that was manufactured in 1914, I recently acquired. Your video has answered every question I had and then some. Thanks again and keep the great videos coming.
@52156drj
@52156drj 2 жыл бұрын
Damn!!! Ian has the best job of all time. Imagine having his hands on, general knowledge of historical firearms. I wonder what his collection looks like.
@jimdrake-writer
@jimdrake-writer 4 жыл бұрын
Yours is one of the most comprehensive and easy to follow presentations about this remarkable semi-automatic design. In addition to pointing out the differences among the various models, your mention of Savage's marketing campaign to the wives of traveling salesmen and to women generally ("10 Shots Quick," and the fact that the shape of the barrel and frame were essentially the same as the finger and palm, and therefore could be aimed almost instinctively) and the remarkably easy field-stripping of the pistol are excellent. You also treat the often-debated "locking" issue very fairly, while also pointing out the pistol's "firsts"--especially the magazine, which appears to be the first American-designed double-stack magazine.
@keithweiss7899
@keithweiss7899 3 жыл бұрын
I love my Savage 1907! It’s actually one of my most accurate automatic pistols out of many types. A word of advice though. When I bought mine used, I was cycling the action and dry firing it. My dad got on to me and said that I would wear it out before I even shot it. Well, I’m glad I did it. Because I pulled the trigger and pulled the slide back and let it slam forward again, and the hammer dropped! I cycled it again and the hammer again dropped! It was a perfectly timed, full-auto pistol! If I had simply pulled the trigger at a range, the gun would have been uncontrollable. The .32 auto isn’t very powerful, however when 10 are coming out of the little gun it could be dangerous. A little gun smithing fixed the problem and it has been working perfectly for many decades now.
@cdshull
@cdshull 8 жыл бұрын
My .32 1907, handed down from dad, and from his dad who bought it new - probably at the Milheim General Store - is simply a very favorite. And, it is almost "point & shoot".
@wlewisiii
@wlewisiii 8 жыл бұрын
Much more tasteful engraving than the typical of the area. I wouldn't mind one like that "A" grade unlike most of the horribly overblown ones from Colt.
@TeaAndBullets
@TeaAndBullets 8 жыл бұрын
Agreed, I like the minimalistic engravings much more. I would not mind owning that nice little savage pistol with the pearl grips and A engravings.
@JB-pu6ek
@JB-pu6ek 3 жыл бұрын
I'd take 5. If they weren't illegal in my country that is... just gotta get a deactivated gun and reactivate it. (For Legal Reasons That's A Joke)
@miguelgameiro8063
@miguelgameiro8063 2 жыл бұрын
@@JB-pu6ek doesn’t have to be if they don’t know
@mrchew1982
@mrchew1982 8 жыл бұрын
you keep making my shopping list longer and longer...
@RedXlV
@RedXlV 8 жыл бұрын
The change in the mag release and accompanying change in the catch on the mag was actually done before the 1915 and 1917; in 1912 I believe. So early 1907s used the original mags, while later ones used the same mag as the 1917. And for a while mags were made with dual catches so they could be used in both early and late 1907s. Oh, and you didn't mention it but the only mags with the hold-open were for the 1915.
@fishcars8078
@fishcars8078 7 жыл бұрын
This is indeed true. I have a 1907 with the lower pinky actuated mag release. You seem to be well versed in these specific pistols. I am generally very knowledgeable on such subjects by my particular 1907 confuses me, and if you could possibly offer some advice I would greatly appreciate it. My particular 1907 has multiple very fine slide serrations as opposed to the large coarse serrations as the ones in this video and in most videos and pictures. Was the slide serrations change something that was phased in like the mag release change? As in there are 1907s around in multiple configurations? Coarse and fine serrations and pinky or ring finger mag releases? Also mine is clearly marked 32/7.65mm but it has a 380 magazine. As said in the video it fits just fine and locks into place. I'm just curious if 32acp will feed from this magazine since they have the same overall length as a 380acp. This particular 1907 is in good overall shape and appears to be a French contract as it has the lanyard loop but clearly has a mismatched magazine. Do you know if the 380 mag will work or which variant mine is since it has the fine slide serrations? I appreciate any help on this.
@tolarpowell5069
@tolarpowell5069 Жыл бұрын
My great grandfather was a cowboy here in Florida. Yes, Florida had cowboys, too. This would have been the early 1900s, but there were cattle drives in the late 1800s just like the west had. Anyway, he carried a Savage in .32. Cattle in florida were turned out into scrub forests and rarely, if ever, saw a human. They become mean. My great grandfather showed my brother a cow skull with a little .32 caliber hole in it where one charged him one day and he was forced to dispatch it.
@redburton2661
@redburton2661 8 жыл бұрын
Had the pleasure of shooting a 1907 in .32ACP about a year ago. Super cool little pistol.
@WhitePaw80
@WhitePaw80 7 жыл бұрын
I just acquired one of these pistols. Don't know much about it. From watching your video I have to note that My pistol has more of a 1906 lower receiver (no overall flare to the grip shape) And a more 1917 style upper receiver., noted by the slide serrations and cocking lever. The magazine has both a upper and lower magazine release holes at the bottom of the magazine. This pistol is a .32 caliber and is all matching.
@adamdarmstaedter1256
@adamdarmstaedter1256 4 жыл бұрын
The 1907 and 1917 have mostly inter-changeable parts. The internals and top slides can be swapped out. I have a 1917 with the front sight filed off and I might get a 1907 slide to replace it. I also have a mag with upper and lower catch holes.
@christianjobes5571
@christianjobes5571 3 жыл бұрын
the later 1907's had the updated slide from the 1917 but had the old grip. i have a 1907 from 1919 and its exactly like how you described
@brunoheidrich1306
@brunoheidrich1306 8 жыл бұрын
have seen many of your videos and have found them to be very informative...keep up the good work!
@mikhaelvaillancourt6770
@mikhaelvaillancourt6770 7 жыл бұрын
Savage pistol didn't made it to us army but was used by French army at ww1
@pommel47
@pommel47 8 жыл бұрын
Have always wanted one or more of these for my collection. Thank you Ian.
@WhitePaw80
@WhitePaw80 7 жыл бұрын
Another note. Mine has a leather holster to match. Has a sort of locking device that the trigger guard locks into and to release one would use the trigger finger to push the piece of spring steel to actuate in order to draw the pistol from the holster.
@16Tango
@16Tango 5 жыл бұрын
WhitePaw80 My grandfather gave me a Colt 1903 in .32 that has the same holster. Some of my friends shiver when they saw it for the first time.
@Semigallia24
@Semigallia24 7 жыл бұрын
There's an interesting 1907 variant, kind of a transition model, that was made in 1919. It has a 1907 frame, but with a lower magazine release like on later models, and essentially a 1917 style slide. I have one, and it's great.
@christianjobes5571
@christianjobes5571 3 жыл бұрын
i also have a 1919 savage 1907. they're really nice shooters.
@jackcarr177
@jackcarr177 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you I was wondering why mine had to lower magazine release but looked more like the 1907.
@paulfabrique5055
@paulfabrique5055 8 жыл бұрын
i think Jude Law zapped Tom Hanks with a Savage in "Road to Perdition"...
@adamdarmstaedter1256
@adamdarmstaedter1256 4 жыл бұрын
I love the part when they escape the diner and he is shooting at the car. The shots sound like rocks coming through the window - which is SO accurate because the velocity is only like 8-900 fps.
@aserta
@aserta 8 жыл бұрын
Nice video on the history behind these, i like the way they are formed. It's a mix of similar and unusual, which i've always liked in a handgun.
@viperdagger7732
@viperdagger7732 8 жыл бұрын
When I first saw this I thought of Road to Perdition where Jude Law is at the diner and racks his pistol.
@JessHull
@JessHull Ай бұрын
I love this era of pocket pistol.
@JW-xj1yf
@JW-xj1yf 6 жыл бұрын
Being from Utica, NY I was familiar with the Savage factory history, I haven't had the pleasure of shooting one of these but I will look to pick one up. There seems to be spare parts availability and a small dedicated collectors group. I do recommend you google Savage's ads particularly this pistol as a personal defense weapon. Some things never change.
@kodiakcopilot
@kodiakcopilot 8 жыл бұрын
The safety lever also locks the slide back for disassembly. Ryeonham did some great vids on these cool little pistols too.
@thetriode
@thetriode 8 жыл бұрын
I have been eyeballing one of these for a while. This video pushed me over to gunbroker where I got a steal on a basket case one. Just over 100 bucks!
@SIDisTHE
@SIDisTHE 8 жыл бұрын
Love the video. Didn't know much at all about that pistol. Really nice. Thank you.
@xxn0thing
@xxn0thing 8 жыл бұрын
I have a 1907 in .32ACP that was passed down to me from my grandfather. It's such a fun little pistol. Very reliable, fairly accurate and fun to plink with. It's really small though, and has bit me a few times (slide bite)!
@Nekuro2
@Nekuro2 8 жыл бұрын
Aiming with it must be a nightmare. Those sights are really really small!
@xxn0thing
@xxn0thing 8 жыл бұрын
They certainly could be better! Though to be fair, I don't thing the firearm was ever meant to be used further than a few yards out, in a defensive situation.
@conrad505
@conrad505 8 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! I've been interested in this pistol ever since seeing one on Road to Perdition. I love the Art Deco design...
@adrianotero7963
@adrianotero7963 Жыл бұрын
That's where I also saw it...I bet this little pistol in 32 has got to be a little sowing machine.
@tommyrockstar100
@tommyrockstar100 8 жыл бұрын
its awesome how guns this old are just so easy to take apart real craftsmanship thinking for maintenance and replacing parts.
@lanedexter6303
@lanedexter6303 4 жыл бұрын
OK, Ian, I am baffled. My 1907, serial number range 107XXX, has the 1915/1917 style magazine release. Also, the mag must be aftermarket, because it has both latching cuts and would fit both styles. It was my late mother’s pistol for years. I bought it for her in 1974, but did not learn any history from the seller. Neat little .32 pistol, though. :-)
@kevozzi52
@kevozzi52 5 жыл бұрын
Great video Ian, lots of good info.
@MrMorganQuinn
@MrMorganQuinn 8 жыл бұрын
@ForgottenWeapons Thanks much for this vid. My Savage is a near and dear item in my collection. It's Great War provenance is worth mentioning, the 1907 being one of the many French Army imports. Mine in particular is strange, for having all the hallmarks of a M1907 but for having a lower pinky release magazine catch.
@marktucker7454
@marktucker7454 3 жыл бұрын
Recently replaced my evey day carry gun from a Colt '03 pocket to a Savage '07 with pearl handles.
@gcardinal
@gcardinal 8 жыл бұрын
Great video, pleasure to watch!
@jeffreyabelson7171
@jeffreyabelson7171 3 ай бұрын
I don't know too much about guns but Savages are the best looking of the early auto pistols
@sithyarael6807
@sithyarael6807 8 жыл бұрын
Wow a lot of handguns started out during the trials of 1907. Did not realize that. Granted the Colt 1911 is a great gun for the time (and still a great gun) so hard to beat that one. Love the videos of the private gun collector.
@thetruthexperiment
@thetruthexperiment 4 жыл бұрын
I love the lighting in this room! Very David Lynch.
@michaelbondar8881
@michaelbondar8881 8 жыл бұрын
Great videos! Good explanation and stories
@vulcangunner58
@vulcangunner58 8 жыл бұрын
Good video Ian...I've always hoped one of the "modern" replica manufacturers would offer us some quality repros of these sleek, compact pistols for everyday enjoyment! Maybe investment cast, or automated manufacture to keep costs down. It seems like too cool a design to let fade away into history.
@adrianotero7963
@adrianotero7963 Жыл бұрын
The fit and finish of these pistols are out of this world.....to make one today would cost a fortune.....and look at what happened to Remingtons R1.....
@davo2003hd
@davo2003hd 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ian.
@audiehollon4292
@audiehollon4292 7 ай бұрын
Excellent and well informing video.
@johnmcclain3887
@johnmcclain3887 2 жыл бұрын
I have two of these in .32, both marked 1905, two different fire control trigger mechanisms, both with original plastic grips, apparently original mounted. The fire controls are different, slightly different trigger release mechanisms, the earlier one is not as reliable, not interchangeable. I've always heard them called 1907's, yet they are both low serial numbers with the earlier date on the slides. I've never heard anything regarding the earlier dates. They are fun to shoot, accurate, and they point nicely. They are dated 21 November, 1905 Pat. One of them has the late style mag release, pinkie release, the other the early style. Thanks again!
@maryjohnson6267
@maryjohnson6267 7 жыл бұрын
Always well done. Informative.
@gerrispecker1033
@gerrispecker1033 6 ай бұрын
I have a 1907 3 digit SN in mint condition. Cute little pistol.
@TheBuckschott
@TheBuckschott 3 жыл бұрын
love this report. great little pistol.
@BlitzPig23
@BlitzPig23 2 жыл бұрын
I realize this is an old video, but I'm rather surprised you didn't mention the French contract Savage pistols that were purchased for use in the Great War. I have one, and it's an interesting little .32acp pistol.
@jeffreyperretti4414
@jeffreyperretti4414 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Sir , I have a Savage pistol, I was thinking it was a 1907 model. But because of your video I find that I model 1917 in 32 ACP.
@KincadeCeltoSlav
@KincadeCeltoSlav 8 жыл бұрын
Gods I Love this channel. Thank You ever so Much!
@monkeyship74401
@monkeyship74401 3 жыл бұрын
So I picked one of these up the other day and it is a 1907 with some strange differences. No grip safety and the regular rectangular grip, but the mag release was the pinky style. The barrel has a groove around the barrel, just ahead of the chamber with a flat spring wrapped in the groove. Rear sight is integral to the slide instead of pinned. My "family" piece is the standard fairly early 1907 with ring finger release, no groove in the barrel and pinned rear sight. So There are subtle differences throughout production. Of course the "family" piece is 99.7% finish and I don't think was shot between 1908 and 1981 when it came into my posession. (it is originally my great grandfather's piece) The one I picked up the other day has a negative percentage of original finish and has all the wierd changes. I'm looking for more as they are a fun gun to shoot and who knows, they might be worth something in the far future.... (or not...) Thanks as always for the great info and Keep at it Ian!
@Paboozala
@Paboozala 7 жыл бұрын
Odd, the one I recently got must be some sort of transitional model. An online search indicated it was made in the year 1915. It looks like a 1907 pattern, but it has a toe release like the 1915 pattern. However, it doesn't have a grip safety or shrouded hammer like the 1915. It also has a lanyard loop on it, which I'm pretty sure makes it a French military contract gun. While I'm not entirely sure of what's going on with it, I still like the thing. The art deco look is too cool.
@zlatkovujevic7348
@zlatkovujevic7348 8 жыл бұрын
Very nice and cool little pistols.
@WALTERBROADDUS
@WALTERBROADDUS Ай бұрын
It seems like a pretty good pistol that goes out of production just when the gangster era is heating up? Lot of good features that make a competitive to the Remington or Colt automatics.
@ww321
@ww321 8 жыл бұрын
I just picked one up at the gun show the other day. Mine is a French Contract one.
@supersonicbros23
@supersonicbros23 4 жыл бұрын
I pretty much never heard or seen these guns until I found your channel
@nate_thealbatross
@nate_thealbatross 3 жыл бұрын
Looks really practical!
@greghardy9476
@greghardy9476 Жыл бұрын
Many years ago a friend asked me to clean his 1917 Savage .32 and to test fire it. He has the original box, paperwork and box of ammo. I was nervous to say the least. It functioned perfectly (with new ammo).
@greghardy9476
@greghardy9476 Жыл бұрын
Fat fingers, 1915.
@fritzruttimann1517
@fritzruttimann1517 Жыл бұрын
Interesting and nice looking antique pistols. In a timeless classic design.
@YOSHIZERO
@YOSHIZERO 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks as always, Ian. Love the idea of one with a grip safety, too bad it has to be the most expensive one haha.
@ductileiron98
@ductileiron98 8 жыл бұрын
You seem to be a Nomad type. Never home.. Always on the move. Good work. Thanks!
@trigger4200
@trigger4200 8 жыл бұрын
that engraving is so nice. personally i hate the overdone ridiculousness of most engraving. also i enjoy the feature of an "exposed hammer" on a striker fired pistol. cool guns. very good vid. EDIT: hmm i wonder what the difference is in the breakdown of the one with the shrouded "hammer"
@ChristianMcAngus
@ChristianMcAngus 8 жыл бұрын
I was thinking that mechanism seems more like a delayed blowback than a short recoil, and when I looked the gun up on Wikipedia it lists it as delayed blowback too.
@RedXlV
@RedXlV 8 жыл бұрын
+ChristophInns It was designed to be short recoil, and on the original .45 ACP prototypes it actually was. But when they made the pocket pistol versions in .32 and .380, it functioned as just delayed blowback.
@Vicarium
@Vicarium 8 жыл бұрын
Another great video
@FancyJesus666
@FancyJesus666 7 жыл бұрын
Ian I would be really interested in seeing you buy one of these and grinding the locking lug off and testing the velocities before and after to test if the locking system actually does anything
@mathewwinney8036
@mathewwinney8036 3 жыл бұрын
I had a Savage, stamped; 1905.... It was in .32. It looked like a space gun. It disassembled in a real wierd way. It was a good shooter.
@bigt5125
@bigt5125 Жыл бұрын
Great video! This video was extremely well done and very informative! I have what I now know is a 1917 .380. It was given to me years ago and appears to be in great shape. Just not sure what the current value is so I will do some more research on gunbroker and gunsamerica.
@davidwagner4671
@davidwagner4671 8 жыл бұрын
Great video
@christianjobes5571
@christianjobes5571 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't see it in this video but you can lock back the slide for disassembly by using the safety. pull back the slide all the way then put the safety on. makes it a lot easier to remove the breach block assembly.
@SearTrip
@SearTrip 8 жыл бұрын
Unusually for these videos, you didn't mention the military contract 1907s. Sure would like to get hold of a Portuguese one some day. Great video, and the lighting's not really that bad.
@RedXlV
@RedXlV 8 жыл бұрын
+SearTrip The sad thing about those is that when they first got imported back to the US, some idiot gun dealer threw away a bunch of the Portuguese coat of arms grips and replaced them with regular Savage grips because he thought they would sell better that way.
@martinbaker613
@martinbaker613 3 жыл бұрын
They look SOOOO cool... especially the mother of pearl version! 😎
@HotCuppaCoffee
@HotCuppaCoffee 8 жыл бұрын
The Savage auto-loaders were very popular pistols in their day. Now, thanks to this video, I can see why. In fact, considering how well they were designed, I'm surprised that no-one took up cloning them in a modernized, up-dated version. It seems with just a minor amount of tweaking, the weapon would viable in today's market. Ian... Have you thought about doing a video on either of the Savage's competitors in the pocket-pistol market, such as the handsome *Webley & Scott .32 auto*, (Check out the _"Humane Killer"_ version, intended for livestock.) or the fabulously weird and ugly looking, (and bizarrely popular,) *Dreyse 1907 .32 auto*?
@fattywithafirearm
@fattywithafirearm 8 жыл бұрын
I have a 1907 version. mine was made in 1910. I would love a 45 cal.
@SuperMarshall2009
@SuperMarshall2009 8 жыл бұрын
Amazing how similar the profile is to an Astra 400 series when your holding it and looking at it from above.
@ScreamingSturmovik
@ScreamingSturmovik 8 жыл бұрын
i really like those savage pistols, to me they look like a cross between a colt and luger when it comes to style, but there are something i wish where a little more colt.
@xenothermia
@xenothermia 8 жыл бұрын
Ian's back!
@robertbenson136
@robertbenson136 8 жыл бұрын
You show all the easy to find ones. I have seen a couple of collections displayed at gun shows that this collection represents something like .0083% or .021% of all the Savages made. They made a very few pre-production 25 acp guns I had a friend who traded a large pile of nice Lugers and Mauser broomhandels for one of those 25 acp ones. He allowed me to shoot one of his 2- 45acp U.S. test pistols but never the 25.
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 8 жыл бұрын
I have separate videos coming on several of the scarce models.
@ronaldmartin2065
@ronaldmartin2065 2 жыл бұрын
If you will move the slide all the way to the rear and engage the safety to the up or safe position, the slide will lock back and you can remove the firing pin assembly without having to hold the pistol really tight! In fact, you can let go of it and remove the firing pin assembly and then pull the slide off while pulling the trigger, and the gun will come apart very easily. I have disassembled the firing pin assembly on mine and polished the parts and cleaned the assembly and when reassembled the pistol shoots much better. This polishing of the parts in the group you call the fire control group actually helps with the striker hammer when cocking the pistol. Never put oil or grease on this assembly just polish the parts. One last thing for owners of this great little pistol. Never remove the grips! You will crack them and have to purchase new replacement grips made of some form of modern plastic. The original grips are made of hard rubber. A lot of the old fountain pens made during this time period were made of hard rubber. Hard rubber is real rubber from the rubber tree with a lot of sulfur mixed into the rubber and then molded into the shape needed.
@JigJoss
@JigJoss 8 жыл бұрын
Those are beautiful, i must own one
@nunosilverio6601
@nunosilverio6601 2 жыл бұрын
Could also mention that the .32 was bought for the Portuguese military in 1913-5!
@alexjones2924
@alexjones2924 Жыл бұрын
Just picked one of these 1917s up the hammer wants to try n stick but after a cleaning it functions fine. .32 was an odd caliber for sure in modern perspectives
@miguelangelsimonfernandez5498
@miguelangelsimonfernandez5498 8 жыл бұрын
The upper part of the earlier models remind me of the Astra 300 or "purito" vaguely in profile. The looks are familiar. Obviously the mechanism are pretty different.
@Biblicalgiants
@Biblicalgiants 6 жыл бұрын
Hello Sir! I came across a Savage 1907 in .32 caliber (7.62 ×17mm). I believe it's a French bring back from WW1. It has the metal lanyard ring on the handle. It still shoots great but most of the original blue coat has worn off. What would you recommend I could do if I decide to sell this. Good upload!
@adamdarmstaedter1256
@adamdarmstaedter1256 4 жыл бұрын
It is easy and cheap to apply cold blue. I got a 1917 in rough outer condition. I just cleaned it up on a wire wheel and then applied the cold blue. It looks great.
@omarrobertogarciarodriguez8012
@omarrobertogarciarodriguez8012 3 жыл бұрын
Soi de México acaponeta may tengo una hermosura de esas la 1905 que chulada de materiales con los que fabricaban antes las armas 👍
@nilodrallub7812
@nilodrallub7812 8 жыл бұрын
I would love to own one !
@vonclark6344
@vonclark6344 Жыл бұрын
Please find and do an article between a winchester 1907 WSL in 351 wsl and 401 wsl. The rifle that would "shoot through a car door"
@hashbrown1969
@hashbrown1969 8 жыл бұрын
in disassembly, pull the slide all the way back, and engage the safety. it will hold the slide back in place, making disassembly much easier. quick tip.
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