It has less recoil and it fires 30 instead of 20 . The weight was a ok sacrifice

@@edwardsallow6518 You know all this mags are interchangeable right?

It's about the same weight as a g3 actually a little less but far too much BS on it. The hk33 was just fine

the Teutonic Gods said it needed more steel

@@ah64dbeast37 yeah honestly the only thing really interesting me about it is the AR style mag compatibility and the scope mount

How do you pronounce the last one ?

@@edwardkelliher4039 "Feuer" is pronouced basically the same as how you'd pronounce it in an english accent. "Stoß" starts with an "st" sound which is pronounced with a "sht" sound and ends on a "ß" which is basically a sharp s sound, like in "seal".

@@edwardkelliher4039 foya shtows, with the ow like flow, not cow, and emphasis on foya

or S afe, E conomic and F reedom

@@Reinecke32 I've learned in german military service, that F stands for "Frieden"

*WEEB FRONT LINE*

as it should be

핰핰핰

@@SIERRA-sc8mt 100% raifu moment.

Lol

@@SonsOfLorgar You mean for all those times soldiers bring unloaded weapons to ambushes which require at least a little forethought and planning.

@@Munroe031 The idea is that it's always safer to keep the bolt open until you're ready to fire. A second safety, if you will. If you were going to use the Silent Bolt Closure Device, you'd open the dust cover and proceed to walk the bolt closed.

​@@nercksrule Sure. It's always safer. For your enemies. Because either it's safer because your own troops are so poorly trained they can't handle a loaded weapon; in which case they're so wet behind the ears they're not going to remember to send the bolt home when it's time to fight. Or, your troops are so well trained they're going to remember to send the bolt home when they're ready to fight, in which case they don't need that feature either. And let's remember, they're sending the bolt home in order to ready the weapon *_BECAUSE THEY'RE ABOUT TO MAKE A LOT OF NOISE ANYWAY._* This is the kind of shit POGs come up with when they're not busying themselves getting fighting men killed with even stupider ideas.

@@Munroe031 no. you have not got it right. start thinking: you think in either or case. now... simple as that: it is for the case happening and you will just want to be unexpected as long as you can. there is NO FUCKING TIME FOR A COMMAND TO DO wHAT YOU WANT. it is just a matter of situation you cant control. but of yourse you are more experienced than H&K

@@MrTiti what's the point of putting yourself at risk by doing this instead of just using the first safety and keeping your finger out of the trigger guard?

He evidently plays GFL

@@allengordon6929 I'm not doubting you just asking if he ever alluded to it or there was a slip (:

They tried a few different styles of those....

"which in my opinion is a little dubious"

Leises Bolzenverschlussgerät ;)

Trigonix ZeNW Lautlose Verschlussschließungsvorrichtung

John Q wollte ihn nur 1zu1 übersetzten :)

Like bro literally just push it with your thumb

@@xXponyinthestarsXx This. Norwegian and Swedish G3s (AG3 and AK4 respectively) have a serrated thumb groove in the bolt to aid in closing it, should you need to, because that's all you need.

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IDW DANYA

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@@christopherbruderle684 the sacred numbers

What amounts to a German roller locked ar? Sign me up.

its a cat

It’s a fox

The artist's official comment is "Is she supposed to be a dog or a cat or a fox? I forgot, I was so horny when I drew her and didn't write it down."

@@afelias Haha, but I still go with fox. No way those are cat or dog ears...

it a fuck nugget

The parts kits are very rare as not many of the guns made it into the US but TSC Machine will built a clone off a 93 with a parts kit. He has also made a C version. They are neat guns, I was at his shop a few weeks ago and he was finishing one up.

@@arvidalexatsinch1163 OP means that once the magazine runs dry, the bolt remains open after the last round like on an AR15 platform. What you described is the standard reloading procedure for HK styled rifles and the MP5.

PTR just introduced a version of this at Shot Show.

@@AnimeFanatic5602I really hope they step away from all the "AR15" parts to something more authentic. Kinda starts killing the point of getting a non-AR 5.56 rifle in my opinion.

Captured it just like Sangvis Command Posts.

ReonMagnum Heck yeah!

Good news! PTR is making a sort of clone of this gun!

Yup

They need to make more guns damnit

@@chickenfishhybrid44 German export laws. Not H&K's fault.

@@chickenfishhybrid44 Believe it or not, the intersection of U.S. import laws and German export laws does make for a lot of hoops for HK to jump through just to sell semi-auto magazine fed rifles to Americans. And they've been burned a number of times by changes in gun laws in the U.S.

@@chickenfishhybrid44 HK can be prissy, but believe me, they'd love your money. HK has become the German de facto service rifle manufacturer, which ironically makes them a big, fat target for anti-gun legislators in Germany. They have to walk on eggshells all the time to avoid losing that lucrative defense contract, and selling anything that even resembles their combat models to American civilians puts them in a very precarious position.

The standard version fits that definition better.

Well there is Ian's custom G3 in InRange TV.

Brownells seems to be working that retro revival thing ....... I bet before long you will see a FAL/SLR brought to market.

Technically, the HK G41 is just a 5.56 version of the HK G3 battle rifle, but I get the rest of your points otherwise. Would love to see them being modernized(but at the same time, retaining some of their authentic mechanics as well, like having the ability to mount the HK79 grenade launcher attachment)

Modernize G3 ?, hmmmm AG3F2 maybe your choice

@@williamprince1114 DSA is making FAL both the classic & modern version btw

@Joshua Ngau Ajang WWWWWWAAAAAAAAGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

No bullet Bullet More bullet All bullet

well I guess that works in all languages ^^

It's cheaper. In these weapons, the stamped steel is too thin to allow for a channel to be drilled to put a retainer. This, of course, is thinking on how it is done on the AR-15. You'd have to weld a little plate to accommodate a little spring and a ball to make an AR-15-like retainer in stamped steel. However, they do have a retaining system in place for the pins. Only it's for keeping them in place with the weapon assembled. I think they could work with that to make them captive, but I don't have a G3-like rifle around right now to see if that's really doable. Perhaps the rationale was that you could bend the receiver and maybe even the pins themselves if you handle them roughly? I'd take that chance anyday rather than being in combat and needing to take my weapon apart, only to lose the pin and render my rifle inoperable because I can't put it back together.

If normal pins are bent you can replace them without any tools or special skills, making it easier for a military to distribute replacement parts. With captive pins you either need to always have someone with the appropriate equipment available or be prepared to exchange the receiver over a bent pin.

captive pins aren't generally truly captive and can still be pulled out with force.

@@stanleyjedrzejczyk2966 been there, you pick it up like you are kewl and no one knows it happened... mass of the receiver from shoulder height is not enough for the pins to notice.... as well as the mythical fantasy of stripping an AR firing pin in low light field conditions... nice attempt though... just because someone once told you it was made of eggshells doesn't mean it is :P

@@hhaxden armorers are always available in theater. That's not a legit concern for a military.

yes that thing disgusts me

The gun it’s self was made to be as simple and reliable as possible . Who cares about the weight if they’re is less recoil . More rounds in each mag. And easier to find ammo . Also it’s just as reliable as the g3 already was .

They are . Gb

It didn’t fail it’s just that Germany didn’t really think they needed an upgrade yet . It was by all accounts a success and if they were going to adopt something around then it would have most definitely been this gun

@@edwardsallow6518 It did fail, it was barely adopted by other nations.

Invictus Prima But his is the 33 tho

FNZero close enough

michael horner everyone wants a grey room.

Yes, with secret elevator to it...

I'll take 2.

Michel bist du das ?

What?

@@ShogunMongol Teehee

mybrad78 such a weird weapon. Would love to see Gun Jesus bless us with it.

It's basically just an unuasually shaped and shortened ak with the ability to take these weird mags. I'd still love to see it though

Larry Vickers should just get Ian on one of his russian trips. Ian will probably get banned from entering russia after that though. Saying anything negative about russian technology is considered a sin there.

@@thkarape Larry talk negative stuffs about Russian stuffs all of time. matter of facts, they take Larry opinions quite serious and based on it improve a lot of things. So no, unlike Ruskiephobic people think, they actually quite transparent. The only problem for Ian to get there is the cost. it is expensive so unless someone want to fund patreon for the trip, I don't see why Ian can't go there and return later. and a lot of Russian folk following this channel as well.

@@boocomban hell, RUSSIANS joke about Russian technology & engineering. When you're proud of the positives, you do that about the negatives.

I bet youre real happy now

Ja, schon, aber wie in der WWSD Reihe erwähnt, je mehr Gewicht der Waffe, desto weniger Kapazitäten um Munition mitnehmen zu können und damit haben Ian und Carl ja durchaus Recht. Und Grüße werter Landsmann.

So ist das 💪

Deutsche Soldaten müssen halt stärker sein ;)

Beim G36 haben sie den Fokus dann ja viel stärker auf leichtes Gewicht gelegt und entsprechend stark auf Kunststoff gesetzt. Dafür wird es dann wieder massiv schlecht geredet, obwohl es für normale Infanterie eine exzellente Wahl ist.

nicht immer......

Isn't that practically incest tho?

I would imagine that if the bolt isn't caught by an empty magazine, like if you racked it open to load it, the slap would still work.

Well, actually "slapping" the charging handle is no endorsed procedure for the G3 in the german army, the only official standard procedure: draw charging handle back and immediately let it go, to slam back by itself. The locking Position of charging handle is only used for inspecting or servicing the chamber, i.e. a group oft recruits have to show all at the same time open chamber in order to establish safety, verified by the instructor passing line of trainees. If dark vor Bad visibility, the pinkie is to be used to check chamber. The described procedures are "by the book" and official i can assure, as former infantry instructor.

You can indeed.

Swedish army use the "slap" as standard loading. But when things is bit more intense you kind of pull out the mag, put in a new and then just pull the bolt back and let it go

@@waltrohrbach2459 - great to know. It's not like I will ever get my hands on an HK - I am working class - but knowledge is power. And I am fascinated with historical firearms. Thanks for the info!

​@@itsnodawayitustabe5654 In a way. Although they are not the same as reserve. The legislation in this case is very murky, but usually it means if you're 18 years old you can register to become soldier in Territorial Defense. It means that you receive basic soldier training, you go back to your job, but you have to spend at least 30 days a year in training (usually in the summer) - Military in theory pays your employer for the trouble (since it doesn't count as a payed leave - you cannot be fired because you were ordered to do your duty - the problem is being hired in the first place). And of course you can be "mobilized" at any moment. Usually the Territorials are sent along military to combat Natural cataclysms, such as floods etc. And there are rumors that Territorial Defense cannot be used outside of the country - of course it is branch of an army, so if you want to, from there you can ask to be reassigned to regular army, and even deployed - though of course you have to go through additional training. Duties are (outside of fighting Natural disasters) to act as a force that would be doing the guerrilla warfare on the lowest way, when country is invaded. At least that one is clear. Guerrilla warfare on the more difficult scale is supposed to be carried out by "AGAT" Special Forces group - which has speciality in unconventional warfare and it's area of expertise is broadly defined as "logistics". There will be some groups that will be specialized in removing the effects of Chemical contamination etc. But because it's tougher to get a job while being a Territorial, only about half of projected personnel is staffed. They say that in the end of 2019 there will be 17 brigades. As of now it is quite of a problem since only 3 brigades can be honestly described (and that's by the loose Territorials standards) as operational. You get some additional money every month (not much - it's only for being ready), and when you train, or when you're mobilized to let's say fight the effects of a flood, you are being payed exactly the same as normal soldiers of your rank. The problem is no-one wants to hire people that serve in Territorial army (which boss would like to have an employee, who has to go for a month and train, or can be called in moments notice to put sandbags on the bank of the river), so at the end of 2017 there were 7600 people there (20.000 are required to fill all positions). Now it is about 8.500 if my information is correct - the official data for 2018 is not available yet.

​@@itsnodawayitustabe5654 About MSBS - from what information I have it is far superior to the Beryl. It was supposed to be bought by Army (well, first batch anyway) in 2014, but the government had it's doubts (financial), and military brass while happy to have a new rifle - well, soldiers were more reserved. They have reliable platform - Beryl being arguably the most sophisticated version of an AK - especially after modifications. I'll give you an other example. For years our military wanted to change helmets for our soldiers. Polish factories make some of the best helmets in the world. But soldiers don't want them, because they offer little less protection. Even though on the old ones you have bunch of problems - they're uncomfortable, heavy, cover so much that using headphones is impossible and even rifle scopes is difficult - so basically not suited for modern combat with the modern flow of information. But they are really durable - one of our soldiers in Afghanistan though he got ambushed by some Taliban and hit in the head really bad during firefight. After this he discovered that the helmet stopped an 7,62 mm bullet from AK from a distance of about 30 - 50 m. Obviously they won't always stop it, but they cover such big portion of the head and neck, that on any other helmet, it would be either unprotected (I've heard it being called - translation - "mullet cover"), or wouldn't stop the bullet. That's one incident in 12 years - and soldiers because of it don't want new helmets. Even though it means that Company still has to use messengers (I might be exaggerating a bit - but the whole idea of "new" helmets - some of them began development in early 90's was that every soldier would have a radio link to his commander etc.). I suspect the reason behind Beryl being still in action is 2 fold. 1 - It's good, known quantity - though it is past the limits of modernization. 2 - we had government change in 2015 - which decided to cancel every order (that is going to cost us Billions in compensations and breaking contracts) the previous government did. 5 years ago military didn't want MSBS, now they realize they need it, and they need it Yesterday - the easiest way was to adopt it for Territorials (they bought like 3 for each - which tells me a lot of it is going to end up in some modernized brigades), it will keep company alive, they won't lose the know-how of producing the rifle, and soldiers will get used to that weapon. 5 years ago, there were teething problems, now it is fully developed and long overdue. And it is easy to make almost any kind of rifle of it. M stands for Modular, so there are standard rifles, bullpups, they have versions in at least 4 different calibers, 3 or 4 sizes of barrels etc. Completely ambidextrous, and easy to field strip - though since it is rather complicated design (compared to Beryl) it might be not as easy to field repair - from what I've heard maintenance is still pretty easy on them.

I think when they started doing this, someone walked in on the design team and went "Haha! Why don't you make those pins captive, are you stupid?" And then they dug a shallow grave for him and kept doing it like this largely out of spite.

If the captive pin is damaged somehow, not out of the question with a combat weapon, it's harder to reassemble the weapon. If a loose pin is lost, you can just swap in a replacement. Ymmv.

More simple assemble with the push pins....I build M16, G3 and MP5 firearms and the HK style is much easier to work with. The captive pins require a small spring and detent pin that can be a bit annoying to install without proper tools. Both systems have their pros and cons and really just boils down to personal preference.

These weapons are stamped steel. In the AR-15, a channel is drilled perpendicular to pin's axis in the hole of the takedown pin to put in a spring and a little ball to serve as a retainer. That's what that ridge right next to the front pin on the AR is for. In stamped steel, that's not really doable. You could weld a plate to retain a spring and ball to make a similar captive pin system. But that's thinking on how it is done on the american rifle. I think they could have done something with the little spring on the tip of the pins to hold them in place while the gun is assembled.

@@stanleyjedrzejczyk2966 Just that german WW2 weapons are simple.

I'd guess because their experience with the SA80 rebuild convinced them that a gas operated AR18 style action was better -- leading in the end to the HK416, the lower of an AR15 joined to the upper of an AR18.

I'm sorry my friend... but sadly they dont make the cute g41.So I don't think you can get one.

@@ShikikanAventa perhaps it will be reliable when they do that

I was thinking the same thing. I know that it is meant to be a combat weapon not a faberge egg, and while I am not great at welding, damn, those look bad.

@@hauptmanndosman I kept waiting for him to say it was an early prototype because it looks cobbled together tbh

The weld on the bolt is pretty sexy though

Hk is notoriously bad at welding lol

totally , they looks like made by me and thats wrong

Ian

Because cars are lame compared to guns

It takes everything good about the g3 and makes it better

lol

How did you....

@@WeAreSoBackBros Patreon supporters have early access. I'm not on Patreon but I fully understand why this is done. :)

Uh..no, mechanically the 433 is a cheaper 416, they just went back to the old style charging handle for nostalgia reasons as far as I can tell.

@@Dhari1 Nooo its magic. I repeat *MAGIC!*

Yes, the 433... the ACR that speaks with a German accent.

@Charlie homie that is flawless math right there

>HK >Underrated You gotta pick one

@@SonsOfLorgar okay I'll concede it makes more sense than the ping, but still. Might as well just put the gun on safe in that scenario, flipping the safety won't be noisier than that thing.

The whole forward assist for closing the bolt quietly was an US Vietnam War thing.

@@SonsOfLorgar why can you not push the bolt forward with your thumb?

I've encountered it while hunting with blokes with AR-15's. Standard procedure for safety reasons is to carry the rifle unloaded, but bolt back and mag inserted. At 3AM, hitting the bolt release is startlingly loud. It echoed out, and our query heard it, knew what it meant, and left the area. Foxes are about as smart as the average infantryman I know. I can't comment on G-3 or later pattern rifles, as I've encountered none in Australia, but I can say that at 3AM in freezing weather, I don't want to be trying to do that.

SonsOfLorgar true, but (from my experience) was mainly used after cleaning the rifle while out on longer patrols / OPs, especially in close country.

Appearently this gun quite expensive, specially if you compare to m16 which is produced in huge quatity. Just this alone is enough to prevent people from buying it

No it’s just H O M E T E H O M E T E