Allegedly this could not be done due to the needed upgrades to the route and signaling (PTC) not being completed until just recently. Extending the run to Mobile was supposed to take place by the end of this year and test trains have already been run on that route (with a brand new Siemens locomotive involved in a fatal grade crossing collision earlier this year). The remainder of the route to Florida has already been mapped out but speeds are still limited to about 45 mph, stations need upgrades, and at least part of the original CSX portion has been sold off to a short line operator. I don't anticipate a return to Florida service anytime this decade, if ever.

Based on where I live in Georgia, either Amtrak might commit to building stations in nearby cities, or after a few decades Brightline might, just might, expand north of the state line and offer service south. If I want to get to Atlanta, though, may as well wait for Amtrak to provide an alternative to I-185 that isn’t an expensive, 20-minute flight so I don’t have to deal with traffic north of Newnan.

Amtrak could care less about Brightline given their inept management.

that or Brightline could do it with their own private funds. I support what Brightline is doing, I think they're great and I think we need more companies doing that. 🙂 Of course, for long distance, nothing is ever going to be faster than flying, especially when we get supersonic over land back again (NASA is going to test a "low boom" aircraft soon, flying it at Mach speeds over major cities to see if people can hear it....they say the boom should be barely audible, and not cause any property damage. It's the X-59 program. It got delayed by the pandemic but the word is these flights should happen in 2024.)

@@DiamondKingStudios "f I want to get to Atlanta, though, may as well wait for Amtrak to provide an alternative to I-185 that isn’t an expensive, 20-minute flight so I don’t have to deal with traffic north of Newnan." There's a private sector solution coming (well Brightline is one but like you said it could take decades for them to see value in your particular route), eVTOL air taxis. They are electric vehicles that take off and land like a helicopter, and then the propellers rotate and they fly like an airplane. Joby Aviation's one goes 155 miles at 200 mph and carries four people, plus the pilot. They intend to start service in the Los Angeles area in 2025 (many other companies are working on it). 🙂 Is there like a general aviation airport nearby? If so, Joby could potentially pick you up there and fly you to Atlanta. 🙂

Agreed, thanks for the comments. Long distance trains in the US could be so great

Why should they care? Hardly anyone rides the existing trains. Why would you run empty trains at a great loss?

Agree sucks that lately in the state im in weve seen many historical lines in the mountains be abandoned and scaled back when they would be a great way to see America by train

@@mirzaahmed6589ye thats the problem because most train service in America sucks no one rides it needs to be improved a lot in order for people to find it useful

It's because autos are far superior to trains that have limited stops, take 5-10x as long as other means of travel, and costs more than a plane ticket.

Yup, the Cape Flyer.

The Cape Codder from NYC has largely been replaced by private jets and expensive seasonal JetBlue flights to Hyannis Airport. As a former Hyannis resident, Amtrak is missing out on a good chunk of money from the New Yorkers that want to come to the Cape but: are priced out of flights to Hyannis; don’t want to battle the bridge traffic; don’t want to fly to Logan or Providence airports then battle the same traffic.

Once the north south tunnel is built (if it ever is) it should become an extension of the Downeaster

Cape codder is from nyc, cape flyer from Boston

That is, of course MBTA isn't MBTA'ing. I kid, but only mostly. What a mess it is up there right now.

Track 29!

You're right about the Niagara Rainbow, thanks for the info!

Lol well, it goes where the tracks are.

@@michlo3393 Amtrak California once posted a quote from Ralph Waldo Emerson: "Do not follow where the path may lead. Go instead where there is no path and leave a trail." Sure, that's inspirational, but if you're on a train that starts doing that, you're going to have a bad time. However, the problem with Amtrak is not that tracks to major cities don't exist, it's that Amtrak doesn't use them, or at best requires you to detour many hundreds of miles out of your way. Kansas City and Omaha are both served by Amtrak and less than 200 miles apart on I-29, but getting between them on Amtrak requires a detour to Illinois making your total trip well over 600 miles. You CAN get from Atlanta in Georgia to Jacksonville in the neighboring state of Florida, but only by first going to North Carolina, a state bordering neither; you have to travel completely through South Carolina TWICE.

@@michlo3393 You can build new tracks. Lots of homeless need jobs. Who pays? Small detail often overlooked.

hmm well, if you just get a seat on Amtrak, as opposed to a room, it's a lot cheaper, usually close to the price of Greyhound for the same distance. But people don't fly because it's cheap, they fly because it's fast. And at the distances people fly, a train doesn't hold a candle to that speed. That's why the private companies gave up on passenger rail (for the most part; there are still some companies that do it) in favor of flight. Boston to Kansas City according to Google Maps is 1418 miles (2282 km). So if you averaged 200 mph (321 km/hr) it would still take you SEVEN HOURS. It would be longer, because wheel on rail generally does not actually average 200 mph (that's their max, not their average). Wikipedia says the TGV averages 173 mph over their whole system. A jet aircraft takes four hours. Maglev would actually be fast enough for this particular route.....but that would be extremely expensive to build. The Japanese maglev is planned to only go 177 miles. "Amtrak is really an "it's about the journey, not the destination" way of travel, which explains why you can't go from arbitrary city A to arbitrary city B. " Well I mean, that and the fact that you have to have track going from A to B. For example, there's no track from San Jose directly to Las Vegas.....Brightline's LA to LV route doesn't benefit us up here in the Bay Area. We would just fly to Vegas. 🙂 With flying, you just need airstrip at A, and airstrip at B. You don't have to do the extreme expense of building something all the way from A, continuously to B.

(having said that, some of these gaps that the channel owner points out would be opportunities for private companies (Brightline?) to run trains there, if they deem that the market would support it. 🙂)

I had ridden the Floridian several times. I agree it needs to be brought back, perhaps several times a week.

While I don’t think it would be the most direct Chicago-Miami route, nor would it serve the highest population versus some of the alternatives, there certainly is a case for directly linking Montgomery and Birmingham, and many folks in southern GA would probably like not having to take I-75 to get to eastern Florida.

I agree, but back then the Floridian ran on primarily ex-L&N track or Family Lines and was losing 13 cents per passenger mile. It ended service Oct. 9, 1979. On Nov 1, 1980, Chessie Systems merged with Family lines and that is when the tracks improved.

The line from New Orleans to Jacksonville was wiped out by hurricanes wiping out the track between those cities and the freight lines not replacing them for Amtrak to run on. More to do with the state of the tracks than Amtrak itself. I think the Floridan used part of those tracks that were not replaced, right?

@@Buc_Stops_Here I’m pretty sure CSX rebuilt those lines as soon as they could and had them up and running by October, so there’s not really much excuse that Amtrak’s still “temporary suspended”.

I think it’s more so from freight as Amtrak runs on privately held freight track

It's some of both. The federal government created the problem in the first place, by providing subsidies for the airlines and highways and none for the railroads, so a lot of railroads had to close their existing passenger service because they couldn't keep up. Then when the government realized they had made a mess, they created Amtrak to "fix" it, but compounded the problem by making Amtrak have to run just about every decision past Congress, ESPECIALLY adding new long distance routes. Then add to that the fact that the other railroads, now only running freight, don't feel any need to let the passenger trains have priority ("after all, they aren't OUR trains anymore"), and it just makes the whole problem worse.

@@nishiljaiswal2216 Yes, except in the Northeast Corridor where Amtrak owns its own track. It is mostly politics. Amtrak was first designed to have a slow death as Americans adjusted to flying more. Alas, for the federal government, they have found that despite Amtrak's many weaknesses, most purposeful, Americans like trains. The younger generation can scream "old technology" at the top of their lungs and, guess what, it is. It could have been upgrated to a world standard but polticians have their own pet projects to fund and getting people from place to place is simply too boring for these political pseudo-intellectuals. Save the snail; let humans walk.

@@katherinec2759 Great response, thanks for sharing.

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Thanks, I think that Sunset Ltd section is indeed coming back

@@T1DWanderer yeah New Orleans to Mobile in the works now

It's a start

@@T1DWanderer FG&A was just given a big wad of cash by the FRA to upgrade Their North Florida trackage(hopefully for passenger service).

Need to Jacksonville to New Orleans back. Only option now is Greyhound and man have they fallen far. Yikes!

Thanks, yes I forgot that spur line in this video 😊

At least between cincinnati and Columbus, there used to be a line but has been turned into the little Miami bike trail

@@timex513 that’s what happened to a lot of local rail lines here too. Several of the trails here used to be rail lines I believe.

We can also thank corrupt politicians of both major political parties who are bought by the auto and airline industries.

Farmrail owns the Oklahoma segment between Erick and Hydro, and they use it alot.

The Central of Georgia Railway, as a subsidiary of the Southern, was a participant in Amtrak, but the new network ultimately never used any of their lines. When the _City of Miami_ (a through train between Chicago and Miami operated in collaboration with the Illinois Central and ACL/later SCL) was discarded in favor of the _South Wind_ Columbus and Albany, GA were both cut from the new Amtrak network, but perhaps a more frustrating loss if you aren’t from that area like I am is the cancellation of the _Nancy Hanks II_ which would serve as an obvious like between the _Crescent_ in Atlanta and the _Silver_ trains in Savannah while also connecting Macon. Both lines are still operated by Norfolk Southern and could see a revival of service if stations were to be built and improvements made to the track. Much harder would be reviving the _Man O’ War_ (Columbus-Atlanta), discontinued mid-1970, since both the CG and Southern lines between the two cities are mostly abandoned without much possibility for restoration (read _bike trails_ ). There are plans for an Atlanta-Montgomery train to go through LaGrange and Opelika, which are close to Columbus, but unless some local transit agency miraculously institutes a connecting commuter service from Columbus to Opelika, we’ll all have to drive some distance to even get to a station. In terms of a greater Chicago-Miami train, I would prefer a route through Indianapolis, Louisville, Nashville, Atlanta, and Macon for optimal population catchment (and a fairly direct line rather than through Alabama), but since this means that Columbus would still be bypassed, there is probably some merit in its incorporation in a _Lake Cities_ like service extending from Missouri through southern Illinois to Memphis, then to Birmingham, Columbus, Albany, Waycross, and joining with the _Silver_ trains in Folkston. This improves the network in Georgia and Alabama (and has the interesting side effect of making Opelika a minor junction), but I don’t know if many Missourians, Kansans, or Oklahomans view Florida as a popular vacation spot, so it might not catch on. Given that my home state is fairly highly-populated compared to its neighbors (save Florida), I find it odd that we don’t really have our own state-sponsored passenger rail program with Amtrak like NC does. An Atlanta-Savannah service could work for us like a Raleigh-Charlotte does for the North Carolinians.

rails ripped out?!idiocy

@@roadforrunner this happened all over the country. Track mileage in the US actually peaked around 1918.

Good info, thanks

I hope the Corridor ID program partnership with Utah, Idaho, and Las Vegas utilizing Frontrunner goes thru. Altho, I'm curious how they'll handle St. George as there is no rail at all connected to that decently large city.

It is kind of shocking

Funnily enough, there used to be a service that covered much of this route. The Dixie Flyer covered the route from Chicago to Nashville via Evansville, than passed through Atlanta onto Florida via Macon and Waycross. But it was truncated and finally cut by the late 60s, and when Amtrak was being formed, they were really only allowed to consider routes that were still in service.

@@user-ph3fx6lx3k yep. Sic transit gloria...transit.

Would put Macon, GA back on the network, too; their only other chance would be an Atlanta-Savannah service. I think that a Chicago-Miami service along those cities, plus a branching service to Savannah, would help to connect many disparate lines and provide a higher ridership base for those points on the network.

@@DiamondKingStudios yes, I'd include Macon on such a route. Depending on the available routes one or the other could be served with a thruway bus connection.

The Rock Island once ran a train that went all the way from the Twin Cities through Kansas City to Texas. Nowadays there’s not too many north-south routes.

@@DiamondKingStudios That they (the Rock) did - the Twin Star Rocket and I think you could make a pretty solid case in establishing service from Twin Cities to KCITY and down to Forth Worth/Dallas and Houston.

That New Orleans/Mobile service was supposed to start January of this year, 2023 but obviously didn't happen. Not sure what is the holdup. They've been doing proving runs and have even had two accidents with one fatal as they work to get this train back online. I'm worried about these older low use crossings that will now see four 79 mph trains blowing through and predict they'll be unfortunately more fatals.

@@thud9797 The hold up is the lack of station facilities in Mobile. The existing structure is gone and Amtrak and Mobile can't agree on the new location. They say 2024 but I'm betting late 2024 at the earliest

The problem with restoring the Sunset Limited or restoring general service to the Florida Panhandle gap is with the freight companies. They either want more than a king's ransom to "upgrade" (read restore tracks they tore up or let maintence lapse) the tracks or outright shut Amtrak out and cite excesive strain and the "congested" tracsk. For added context It took mediation from the STB to restore service from New Orleans to Mobile. I'm not saying it's impossible, but it's two step short of it with the animosity towards Amtrak and it's existing services.

I totallt agree it'd be a disservice to start Cheyenne to Pueblo service, without providing some sort of connection to the Southwest Chief. Regardless if the Southwest Chief connecting station is in La Junta or Trinidad, this REALLY should be done if such a north to south train is introduced. It also should be a no brainer to extend the Heartland Flyer north to Newton(KS), so that places like Wichita have train service again. Ideally it'd be nice to have thru car service(meaning a sleeper and coach are disconnected from. the Southwest Chief, and routed onto a different train bound for Fort Worth) so that you could go from Fort Worth to Chicago on train.

As someone with almost no historic connection to Idaho, I think it’s a bit messed up that the only Amtrak station in your state is at its northernmost county, way up in the panhandle, away from where the vast majority of the population lives, and there should at least be some service in the Snake River area (where I imagine you live). Kentucky and Tennessee also have it bad (one train along their western edge), but at least the _City of New Orleans_ reaches Memphis.

@@DiamondKingStudios I agree it is messed up how the only train station in Idaho is in the north and I hope they bring back Amtrak to southern Idaho sadly I saw Amtrak’s new route map and southern Idaho was not on the new route list.

South Dakota has it even worse lol@@DiamondKingStudios

@@skurinski I doubt there were many passenger trains there even before Amtrak.

That's right, I did miss that one. Thanks

The former SP route of the "Sunbeam" through Corsicana and College Station is owned by UP, who are not keen on hosting a passenger train.

@@jslasher1nor is BNSF for connecting Bakersfield with southern CA, but the Tehachapi Loop is filled with freight trains there anyway.

That line is owned by UP. BNSF has trackage rights.

@@johnhblaubachea5156 I thought the ATSF used that for their _San Francisco Chief_ way back when. That agreement must have been in place for a while.

I'd much rather spend 24 hours on a train than 3 hours on a plane

It's being held up by the City of Mobile for some lease issues.

All true. That's a capital investment proposal, and you know how polarized our government is.

@@hirampriggott1689without Capital investment Amtrak is useless and new services will just fail

@@hirampriggott1689And by now, it is most likely too late, as there is pretty much no land left for Amtrak to lay its own rails.

The freight companies let their trains take precedence over Amtrak because the freight companies aren't being forced to give precedence as is in the law. Maybe the solution would be to improve all the rails in the country by forming a private corporation financed initially by the government to purchase and operate all the rails. If one company owned all the rail infrastructure and leased it for use to all the railroads including Amtrak, they could upgrade and maintain the tracks and potentially make a profit by modernizing our rails. This company could also act as a traffic controller on the rails to ensure that important trains get precedent. After all, the government controls air traffic and the airports are not owned by the airlines, but the airlines pay a usage fee. I don't see any reason a similar system could be used by USA railroads. With capital improvements in the rail system, areas where trains are limited to 30 mph or even 15mph could be eliminated. In many places, there would be no reason to lay new tracks, there is just a need to upgrade the tracks for faster more fuel-efficient train. This would benefit both Amtrak and the freight rail companies.

@@greggruchacz8693 I do not see how the freight railways in the US would want to let their power slip away from them that quickly or easily.

Me too. Pity America doesn't have trains, Only AMTRAK 🤮🤮🤮

That's very bad service

Who would want to??? I live in Houston and I’m sorry but I’d rather spend 5.5 hours in my car spending half as much on gas than a train ticket that would get me there in 9 hours. No thanks

Don't forget their love affair with precision scheduled railroading that purposfully builds trains that are too long for existing sidings. Anything to help the stockholders buy that 8th vacation home.

The Gulf Coast Limited was created specifically for the 1984 New Orleans World's Fair.

That track was in very bad shape in 1969

So what? Fix it! @@dknowles60

With enough proper maintenance, the _National Limited_ could have survived in some form to the present day, along with the since-abandoned trackage. It’s a bit of a no-brainer to me; the federal government considers that particular corridor important enough that they built I-70. But if they bring it back, it would be nice for that DC-York-Harrisburg branch to also come back. It’s like how Detroit-Toledo was mentioned as a small but potentially important segment.

It's insane that it is gone

@@T1DWanderer We can thank Jimmy Carter for that.

Another reason to bring back trains is the distance-limiting factor of battery-operated cars. Just drive to train station, pop car on trickle charger and go. People use the US vs Europe discussion, but fail to remember that the total area of the EU is roughly that of the continental US. The issue here is lack of political will to think long-term. It will take decades to build out the needed infrastructure to optimize our use of safe, reliable on-time medium-distance transport.

@@karinwetzel1773Besides, a large part of the Midwest is of about the same area, but with larger cities and higher density, than Spain with its high-speed network.

I’d imagine that a lot of popular animosity for passenger rail is due to some stubbornness on the people’s part, since many areas that could be served by passenger trains are served by Interstate highways that operate past their capacity at many hours of the day and would just be very expensive and inordinately destructive to keep widening. There are some anecdotes about terrible train service, but it’s only like that because the people already disregarded the trains to begin with, and with little funding they can’t run as well. Not to mention that many people oppose Amtrak due to its ties with the government, thus any expansion of service being linked to tax funding and all that. Private companies could run passenger trains in the US like they used to (and Brightline in Florida seems to be going well so far), but the conditions for that outside of Florida don’t seem to be very feasible due to the cost of building new track and most freight companies not wanting to deal with passenger trains.

​@@DiamondKingStudios That's the other thing.

I don't know that people hate trains, but I think that they are largely ignorant of them. It is annoying to me that our culture is so automobile and plane addicted, but I value freedom so can't really complain. I just don't like how our government drove the railroads out of the passenger business by heavily subsidizing air lines and highways.

Thanks!! I'm excited about the Amtrak rides too :)

I'm happy to see that Virginia is expanding rail service to more areas of the state. I just with that they would improve and reopen the track between Charlottesville and Richmond. Right now, it is serviced by a bus but running a train from the Christiansburg area through Richmond into the Virginia Tidewater region would be great. It would be able to service most of the Universities in the state and by changing trains at C'ville or Richmond, most of the state would be serviced.

I believe that is in VA's rail plan, but extending service from Roanoke to Bristol appears to the next expansion project.

Great memories, thanks

Sounds fun

As a guy from Georgia, I concur

Sadly, these proposed routes are nothing more than pipe-dreams.

⁠@@jslasher1I have hope for the _Phoebe Snow_ given the recent work on the Lackawanna Cutoff. With enough support from Northeast Pennsylvania it could be viable. It will look nothing like the old DL&W train but the service will be there. _Blue Comet_ might be a harder ask, since folks will argue that the existence of the Northeast Corridor and NJ Transit’s Atlantic City Like make it less of an immediate need. I still would like to see passenger train service for south-central NY and northeastern PA, which alternative New York-Buffalo alignments might offer.

I don’t think he was referring to the track itself, but rather as a spur of the Empire Builder. I think what he was saying is the main part of the train goes to Seattle with part splitting off to Portland (or the opposite of that if going east)

Sounds great, I hope to ride The Canadian some day

You're thinking of the Pacific Surfliner which goes to SD, while the Coast Starlight terminates in Los Angeles. You can also transfer from the Starlight to the Surfliner in San Luis Obispo (central CA), where the Surfliner originates. Another local option to get there (if one tires of being on the Amtrak or is starting from LA) is to take the regional Metrolink train from LA to Oceanside CA and transfer to the regional COASTER train which goes between Oceanside and San Diego downtown/old town.

@@briansguyThank you for the clarification. It's been a while since to rode that train.

Hope so

@@T1DWanderer The only opposition along the line is Yellowstone County Commissioner John Ostlund, who has complained that bringing back passenger rail service would cause a lot of hassle in reverting a portion of the old Northern Pacific depot back to servicing passenger rail, and especially due to the need for people to be hired to support the new rail service. This guy has been one of our worst county commissioners of all time, making bad decision after bad decision.

Amazing it takes an act of Congress to restore train service, yet roads were built to all and any town of any size, no matter how much money they "lost." There was no worry about "usage" of highways (or "profitability"). This country had the will to build the highway and air systems. It needs the same for rail.

@@dougo1962 It also took a Congresional intervention to prevent one of Amtrak's previous presidents - Richard Anderson (fromer Delta Airlines President) from cutting existing lines further and using thruway buses to bridge the gaps.

A lot of gentle farmland in that area, good for relaxing

@@T1DWanderer - Yes indeed! 😎

Lake Shore Limited runs NYC-Chicago

@irascheer5868 Yes, but it takes 21 hours to do it. A night train service (like the Nightjets in Europe) would need to leave in the late afternoon/ evening and arrive early the next morning, to appeal to business travelers. Say 6 pm to 6 am. The 900 mile Broadway Limited route, non stop, might be able to do that.

Tthe Lakeshore Limited and the Cardinal both leave late in the day and arrive in. NYC the next day.

@johnhblaubachea5156 True, but both arrive the end of the following day. A night train would need to arrive the morning of the next day. The point is to replace a flight and a hotel with a train trip. Leave after work, arrive and do business the next day. It would have to be a higher speed non stop service.

@@odess4sd4d So, you want schedules such that one could leave New York whereby you would spend the night on the train and arrive in Chicago in the morning, attend your meeting/sight see and then return on EB train to that afternoon so that you could arrive in there the next morning? That would only work if CSX and NS would maintain the tracks and dispatch their trains the way the Pennsy and the NYC used to. I believe PTC has been this impossible. The existing schedules have lots of padding built into them to take into account anticipated freight interference and congestion (much of it due to PTC's longer trains). If the Lakeshore Limited operated without any interference and the host freights dispatched favorably your idea would work without upgrading to HSR. I lean towards incremental upgrades over building expensive new infrastructure. Not only is it cheaper, it get improvements into service sooner, the public takes notice and and over time ridership and frequencies increase. Better cooperation from the Class 1s has to start with reexamining the costs of the slots Amtrak pays them. Have these payments ever changed from 1971? In CA the Capitol Corridor pays UP a premium to dispatch above 95% OTP and maintain the tracks to 79 passenger/60 Freight. It's expensive, but it is the text book example for freight cooperation, and the 3rd busiest Amtrak Corridor. For the Lakeshoare's route would the government be willing to pay for extending sidings and double tracking to make the route more reliable (and be able to add second frequencies later?).

Lots of research but it was interesting to do. Thanks!

Who would ride it? Most people would have to rent a car at their destination so they wouldn't take the train. Trains are finishid because of the car and the fact that most areas in the US you need a car to get around. There is no point in taking a train for 6 hours when you could drive it in about the same time and have a car at your destination.

@canyonoverlook9937 you're telling me no one would ride that? Calling B.S. 😂😂😂 there's tons of posts with people taking about how Columbus isn't served by amtrak. Lot of people would love it.

@@benjaminwagner8141Do they want to go to Cincy or Cleveland or some other city. Maybe if they were going to Florida or NYC but just from Columbus to Cleveland I am skeptical it would be viable to cover its costs. I wonder how many lines now even cover their cost. NYC to DC probably makes a profit.

@@canyonoverlook9937 cleveland to Nashville would be profitable

@@canyonoverlook9937 especially with intersections at Cincinnati and Cleveland

🙄😓🫢🤭 Florida Suicide Trains comes to California!! 😂😂😂😂😢😮

Thanks! It's all about the maps ;)

About the time the Lake Country was established, GM closed a major truck plant in JV, dealing a severe blow to Janesville's economy and growth, and pretty much dooming the LCL's chances... (and yeah, creeping along the JV-Fox Lake segment didn't help, either)

Minor note here- The freight lines refused to rebuild it to Amtrak standards unless Amtrak paid a king's ransom. The cynical side of me says the ransom would either pay for impovements the freights didn't want ot payfor themselves or the freights would just pokcet the money with stock buy-backs.

@@americanace96 That makes perfect sense and thanks for providing!

Isn't that the truth. I'm planning some Amtrak rides in the next couple weeks, and without renting a car, getting around before and after the trains is proving quite a challenge. It's like nobody ever thought things through

It's spelled looze, with a z

@@dingusdingus2152 Actually its lose. The only dictionary you will find looze in is a dictionary on slang words meaning a unpleasant woman. If I had nothing better to do with my life than correct peoples spelling, I would at least try not to suck at it.

@@RebelCowboysRVs I was being facetious. I used to admonish people not to suck at spelling phonetically specifically using looze as an example but I kept getting accused of being a grammar nazi so I guess I can't win, sarcasm is a thing too subtle to convey in the comment section. Oh well, fairly soon no one will be able to read or write at all and everyone will talk like the characters in that idiocracy movie...

@@RebelCowboysRVs also apparently you have nothing better to do with your life than insult total strangers for exceedingly petty and trivial things.

It's all about the journey, especially on those long-distance Amtrak trains

Thank you. I would like to explore some of the old stations and Harvey Houses someday... it's always in the back of my mind when I think of travel planning