Forte: The Christmas Villain Who Almost Destroyed The Beast | Discovering Disney
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Isaac breaks down the story of the grand Christmas villain from Beauty and the Beast: Forte.
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Beauty and the Beast The Enchanted Christmas: amzn.to/2n6qTpu
Beauty and the Beast: amzn.to/2npvtfN
Beauty and the Beast (2017): amzn.to/2tfzUNv
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disney.wikia.com/wiki/Forte
disney.wikia.com/wiki/Fife
Deep within the West Wing of Beast’s castle, through a secret door, there existed a being who spent his life focused on expanding his power and controlling hope: Forte. For Forte’s entire life he felt powerless and unappreciated, but in his new life, under the curse of the Enchantress, he had become a comforting presence for the Beast allowing him to be extremely influential in his master’s life. What Forte supported though was not the Beast’s humanity; he instead connected with and scorched the flames of the Beast’s ego, anger and hate, so when Christmas begins to be brought back by Belle to unite the castle together and spread joy to all, Forte saw that day and that girl as a threat.
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@scarlett6015 5 жыл бұрын
Holy- I FINALLY REALIZED WHY FORTE SCARED ME AS A KID!! HE WAS CGI while the most of the movie was traditional animation... He seemed more real to me compared to the rest...
@ERBanmech 5 жыл бұрын
Scarlett it was a pretty good design choice in my opinion as it set him apart compared to the rest of the cast dignifying him above others like he sought
@Maria-ed3jo 5 жыл бұрын
omg same!
@nicolochanleo5730 5 жыл бұрын
Yes like the cgi fetus from courage the cowardly dog
@LegoReader12345hello 4 жыл бұрын
@@nicolochanleo5730 return the slab
@misery_shun 4 жыл бұрын
I thought he was a fever dream I had
@a_guy751 5 жыл бұрын
How am I supposed to have a Merry Christmas when I'm "BOLTED TO THE WAALL"
@danielelijahtolentino7029 4 жыл бұрын
Goodpoint
@AshleyandShelbyGray 4 жыл бұрын
Even when I was little I never once blamed him for being so bitter and angry
@MrStickman1997 3 жыл бұрын
You probably are almost for real now...
@lizbizwiz1238 5 жыл бұрын
To be honest, Forte kinda scared me as a kid. 😰
@ItsKball 5 жыл бұрын
Me too
@sandragordon9496 5 жыл бұрын
Same xD!
@garveyneal1672 5 жыл бұрын
Let’s face it Tim curry will always be the king of scary movie villains
@Brynn332 5 жыл бұрын
Still creeps me out now.
@miznason2583 5 жыл бұрын
Me too
@connorplisga3718 5 жыл бұрын
Call me crazy but in terms of being a villain, FORTE IS BETTER THAN GASTON.
@jessicalamb8736 5 жыл бұрын
I see that as well.
@rosegold_bunbun 5 жыл бұрын
Right plus that kick but sing he sang lol this dude scared me as a child 😂💀☠️
@srdjan3057 5 жыл бұрын
Forte is much better than Gaston(2017 live action remake), no doubt about that, but, i am not sure i can agree on the original one though!
@MetroXLR99 4 жыл бұрын
Both Forte, and Xaldin from Kingdom Hearts were better antagonists for The Beast. Both characters tried to manipulate the Beast by stoking his anger and sorrow. ..Gaston only encountered the Beast briefly, and tried to kill him out of jealousy.
@briannahlabelle1150 4 жыл бұрын
You're not!
@stormspirit5882 5 жыл бұрын
Loud is such a terrifying villian. For those of you not in the music world, Forte means loud. Disney literally has a villian named Loud.
@CherryBun0325 2 жыл бұрын
Oh gosh, I’m a choirgirl and- 🤯😵💫
@laurenmontera9516 7 ай бұрын
In French, it means strong 💪
@jarlairess Ай бұрын
Ie. Making KZfaq videos is Isaac's forte
@Goobzilla420 5 жыл бұрын
Wait, so when everyone becomes human again does that mean Forte's corps is just gonna chill in the castle?
@Onyxkokoro96 5 жыл бұрын
Duuuuude that's a good point
@retosius7962 5 жыл бұрын
more likely he's still an organ because his soul was removed tho that would be hilarious in a morbid way. …, am I weird for thinking that?
@adnilnosnhoj 5 жыл бұрын
I've always hoped Forte didn't actually die no one should die in a Disney Christmas story.
@jonathanwaters206 5 жыл бұрын
@@adnilnosnhoj look up the story of the little match girl
@adnilnosnhoj 5 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanwaters206 I wrote an essay on that story many years ago Over 30 years actually. You can't get more depressing than that story, but I loved it then and always will. Still, Disney could have used Forte's story to let everyone know that not everybody likes all the hoopla of Christmas. I really believed they were going to go in that direction up until the end of the movie. I was so disappointed when they didn't. I thought the character was a gem. A snarky, mean-spirited, insecure gem, but a gem all the same.
@TickedOffPriest 5 жыл бұрын
Forte's final performance was simply smashing.
@nightfallalicorn4246 5 жыл бұрын
I actually laughed at this.
@jasminejohnston6393 5 жыл бұрын
The way Forte dies is even more scary because the Beast destroys the keyboard and that just scared the living pi$$ out of me the first time I saw that. Organs shouldn’t be scary!
@bloodyrose1985 5 жыл бұрын
Pokemon reviews and train videos more like removing his voice
@AshleyandShelbyGray 4 жыл бұрын
It think the way he dies isn't scary because the Beast destroyed the keyboard, but rather, because of the horrifying angle when he fell (plus, it was implied suicide, so there's that)
@cryptojonny6837 4 жыл бұрын
Wonder how his face looked after he fell down and died.
@mattybrunolucaszeneresalas9072 Жыл бұрын
Why does the keyboard breaking scare you?
@mattybrunolucaszeneresalas9072 Жыл бұрын
@@AshleyandShelbyGray no, it wasn’t. Trust me watch the scene again and take a close look at his facial expressions, he didn’t want to off himself.
@ProfessorUniverse95 5 жыл бұрын
Never realised how scary Forte could be as a kid
@sandrixhozart7838 5 жыл бұрын
The evil queen transform scared me along of the Black Cauldron
@marquishalsell 5 жыл бұрын
I felt the darkness all through forte never liked all his horror music I would cover up every time I seen him get revenge
@hilariomendoza1784 5 жыл бұрын
Love your profile picture👍
@ProfessorUniverse95 5 жыл бұрын
@@sandrixhozart7838 same here, first time I watched Snow White I was probably super young so yeah it freaked me out until I was in my early twenties I think
@sandrixhozart7838 5 жыл бұрын
@@ProfessorUniverse95 yep in late teens I find it in yard sales
@Squiggy8440 5 жыл бұрын
In a way, isnt forte’s relationship with the beast a parallel to an abusive relationship? :c
@ZimVader-0017 5 жыл бұрын
Yes. The way he wiggled himself into Adam's (the Beast) life and tried to make sure that he was the only one who he trusted, and the way he practically isolated him is similar to how an abuser will keep a vulnerable person (be it a spouse, son/daughter, patient, etc) under their control. Adam was, what, 11-12 years old when the curse was made? So this conditioning has been going on for a while.
@hannahzografos5729 5 жыл бұрын
Ali S Wow! I never thought about it that way. But I agree with you. You’ve also just made Forte creepier and scarier than he already was.
@Squiggy8440 5 жыл бұрын
Hannah Zografos lol always happy to ruin someone’s childhood~
@AshleyandShelbyGray 4 жыл бұрын
I just always felt like Forte was the true victim here though :(
@oooh19 4 жыл бұрын
If this ruins someone's childhood then they've got bigger issues!
@Korvo.420 5 жыл бұрын
I'm bolted to the *wALL*
@lavendernovak2200 5 жыл бұрын
Kianna Davis I read this before it happened and laughed WAAY too hard at it
@CuriousUserX90 5 жыл бұрын
Kianna Davis No wonder the other characters can move around the castle as inanimate objects and he can’t, for good reasons though.
@okami-chan9772 5 жыл бұрын
Did somebody made a meme about that?
@vortexastar193 5 жыл бұрын
That was the funniest and most terrifying thing I'd ever seen as a kid.
@jaschabull2365 5 жыл бұрын
I bet Mr. A. C. can relate to that.
@nathang6376 Жыл бұрын
Throughout my childhood, Forte was the only Disney villain made me genuinely afraid at night. The horrifying factor of his character: he couldn’t move. He was stuck in that dark room alone, but could wreak so much disaster on the castle and the characters from where he sat bolted to the wall.
@Blondies_Version 5 жыл бұрын
Forte always scared me when I was little
@sivb.vanderstroom9858 2 жыл бұрын
Me too
@lisettegarcia7013 5 жыл бұрын
One thing about Forte: Smashing! *(Old Pennywise begins to laugh)*
@jasminejohnston6393 5 жыл бұрын
Oh I get it, The Beast destroys Forte’s keyboard by smashing it!
@lisettegarcia7013 5 жыл бұрын
@@jasminejohnston6393 well that and he is voiced by Tim Curry. *(Nigel Thornberry and the original Pennywise)*
@16taysia 4 жыл бұрын
LMAO yep! 😂
@SacredMilkOG 3 жыл бұрын
#CommentsYouCanHear
@bradyryan5105 Жыл бұрын
When Forte cackles, I can hear Pennywise cackling too
@FriendlyCelestial 5 жыл бұрын
Forte gave me nightmares
@karamixon5815 5 жыл бұрын
I won't blame you he STILL gave me nightmares.
@jamesmoyner7499 5 жыл бұрын
10:10 Oh that is what he was doing. Ever since I was little I always wondered why he was pulling himself from the wall! Thank you Isaac for not only talking about this great underrated midquel, a wonderful Tim Curry voiced villain, and going in deeper with everything mentioned!! Have a merry Christmas and happy new year!
@Pony-Potential 3 жыл бұрын
I thought he suddenly just started to just pull himself away for...an unknown reason. It confused me.
@electrochara1030 3 жыл бұрын
@@Pony-Potential I thought so too
@Pony-Potential 3 жыл бұрын
@@electrochara1030 Yeah, I thought..."is he suddenly trying to kill himself? wait, why is he screaming now?"
@micaylab1 2 жыл бұрын
Forte's not the best one of Tim Curry's characters but he is an interesting one.
@jamesmoyner7499 2 жыл бұрын
@@micaylab1 I never said best, only the he was a “wonderful Tim Curry voiced villain”.
@tamarasmith9060 5 жыл бұрын
It's sad that he couldn't find some happiness as a human & then became so angry & bitter. He ended up destroying himself. Plus he was obviously insane from his power over Beast too, because while it definitely would stop Beast from falling in love if he was dead, it didn't occur to him that once Beast was dead nobody at all would appreciate his music. Also, the curse was to teach Beast a lesson so if he was dead there would be no reason for the Enchantress to keep the spell on the rest of the castle & he would be turned human again anyway. Then he would certainly be out of a job, maybe put in prison if the others realized he killed their master on purpose. So even if he was that angry & selfish, logic should've stopped him from trying to kill Beast & Belle.
@adnilnosnhoj 5 жыл бұрын
Good points. If he had stopped and thought about it more carefully, I think he could have lured Belle into the chamber as he did, and began to play sad music for her. He could have manipulated her just like he had manipulated the Beast because she was missing her father. Had he used that to keep her sad and depressed, chances are neither Belle or the Beast would have fallen in love and Forte would have doubled his audience. Now,t since it was made clear after THIS video was made that all the servants would have turned completely into what they had been transformed into, I think Forte was not aware of this. If he had, he would have reluctantly accepted the idea of becoming human again. I do believe though that had he not died and the Beast would forgive him, he could have remained a valuable member of the court. At least that's how I would write it.
@theojaggi3963 4 жыл бұрын
I've said this to someone else, he seems a little bit suicidal.
@SacredMilkOG 3 жыл бұрын
Because possessed organs are logical beings.
@tamarasmith9060 3 жыл бұрын
@@SacredMilkOG 😂😂😂😂 Well, you've got a point there. But none of the other characters have gone insane to the point of murder. The wardrobe & piano were a bit nutty, but in an eccentric way.
@SacredMilkOG 3 жыл бұрын
@@tamarasmith9060 I was just goofin :) and I dunno... that boiler in the basement looks extra sketch.
@brooklynmills9793 5 жыл бұрын
I think what we need now, since you can clearly see that Adam was in fact a child or preteen or whatever by the movie, is a video explaining why his parents were not present at their party!
@Roberto-mm4gr 5 жыл бұрын
Brooklyn Mills I think they’re supposed to be dead and that’s why he’s bitter
@adnilnosnhoj 5 жыл бұрын
@@Roberto-mm4gr I agree. They died and the staff felt sorry for him and spoiled him rotten. Both our of duty and pity. Once the monster was created, no one had the courage correct him.
@drswag0076 5 жыл бұрын
hats off to Tim Curry for voicing this great character
@lovinglyok3571 5 жыл бұрын
Forte’s hunger for more respect lead him to believe that he would be better off being a magical instrument. CRAZY!
@bradyryan5105 5 жыл бұрын
Yep. Not realizing if the curse came to fruitation, he and all the beasts servants would die and become non-living objects
@dustymcwari4468 5 жыл бұрын
Actually, wasn’t that thing of “if the last rose petal fall, we’ll all die” a thing of the remake?, in the original they were going to stay the same, with the only thing of concern being the Beast now becoming a monster in mind and soul, or I dunno, Forte would have take a toll from his selfish wish regardless
@ionryful 5 жыл бұрын
9:51 They can't fall in love if they're *DED!*
@Queen-nm9yj 4 жыл бұрын
Easily the scariest looking Disney villain and he’s so underrated 😂😂😂
@IsaacCarlson 5 жыл бұрын
I somehow totally forgot my Santa hat for this video... but that's okay! I think the video still turned out great and I hope you enjoyed it! By the way, to stay connected with the magic of Wotso Videos all of the time in between my videos on KZfaq make sure to follow me @WotsoVideos on Twitter and Instagram! Have a very, merry holiday season and a magical day!
@kimberlymedina6812 5 жыл бұрын
Happy Holidays!
@sandrixhozart7838 5 жыл бұрын
Hope you have a Super sayian week and a Merry Cheerful Christmas same it's on vhs too but feels a need on dvd my favorite sequel
@josezavaleta5809 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video Wotso Videos👍🙂
@ItsKball 5 жыл бұрын
Do u have a discord..
@orvillefischer7503 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a great video and breakdown of forte
@TheThemeParkEvangelist 5 жыл бұрын
Forte always scared me as a kid, this story was actually extremely interesting. Thank you for discussing it! :)
@Boundwithflame23 5 жыл бұрын
Someone else probably already commented this but what the heck "I'M BOLTED TO THE *WALL* !!"
@mement0m0ri86 Жыл бұрын
Forte saying to Fife: “She pulls him (Beast) from my grasp”. Not really an attraction to Adam like I’ve read in so many fanfic, but more like a desire of manipulating to get the attention and the acknowledgement he ever wanted. It is a relationship based on manipulation. Forte dominates the Master. And before it was the Master who dominated Forte. We have here a perfect sample of the Karpman dram triangle: victim, rescuer, persecutor. Before the enchantment, Forte is both a victim and persecuted. Adam persecuted him and “rescued” him by being the dominator with his high status as a Prince. And after the enchantment, the roles change. Forte is the rescuer and persecutor and the Beast the victim. And Forte finds a total control in this role. It gives me a sense to his Life. He is admitted both as an artist and as a person. Something makes me think he has fought his whole life to have people’s attention for his person as a whole. And Belle, a young person, breaks what he’s been built for years in no time. This is a recurrent issue in Disney’s movies. A young people who, in no time, breaks what the “old” person has made in years. He couldn’t accept that the Beast needed more than music or friendship. Just love and someone that could shake him up. Maestro couldn’t be this person. No love or sexual attraction in that. Just a game Maestro tried to play to follow as he could the social contract. Maestro is genuinely aware of the superficiality of our society. Knowing that he couldn’t never change it made him fall in cynicism and misanthropy. The Beast was his last hope not to face his doom. By falling in love of Belle, the Beast sounded Forte’s death knell.
@angeldog15 4 жыл бұрын
If they made a live action version of this movie, he would be horrifying.
@mattybrunolucaszeneresalas9072 Жыл бұрын
Hmmm
@superaverageisnotme Жыл бұрын
Don’t start giving Disney ideas
@FadowMar_CZ 3 ай бұрын
when I was young i really thought about it and I believe that the Forte in realistic form with same design would look even more terrifying and epic
@thatgrumpychick4928 5 жыл бұрын
Everything Tim Curry touches turns to gold
@okami-chan9772 5 жыл бұрын
I haven't seen the movie for a very long time; but tbh, I still have that Christmas song, from the movie, still stuck in my head after all these years. And I still remember parts of the movie promo, from another Disney VHS, when I was about to watch that Winny the Pooh movie, the one with the gang went out looking for Christopher Robin. Edit: Now I remember, the movie is called "Pooh's Grand Adventure: The Search for Christopher Robin".
@noura4324 3 жыл бұрын
‘As long as there’s Christmas I truly believe’
@elijahkelley7616 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, good times
@kadajsnightqueen 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if Forte’s view would have changed if he realized that by failing to break the enchantment in time, they all would become what they appeared in truth, not just shape. Obviously he didn’t care at the very end, but before it got to that point, would he have reconsidered? Knowing that, without Belle’s influence, he would have become nothing more than a lifeless pipe organ, a collection of dusty pipes sitting in a desolate, forgotten castle, empty save for a mindless animal prowling the halls and shoving aside broken furniture and shattered dish ware, all semblance of humanity long lost, bereft even of the music that once soothed him. No more music, no more master to serve. Just the roar of a twisted beast curled in his den, attacking any who stumble upon the ruins.
@fightingfaerie 5 жыл бұрын
Glad to see someone else who actually loved Enchanted Christmas growing up. I think I loved it for the same reasons: loving Beauty and the Beast and loving Christmas. Also I loved the song As Long As There's Christmas and it remains one of my favorite Christmas songs to this day.
@IsaacCarlson 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was a big fan! That is cool you've had a positive experience with the film and its music as well.
@JT5555 5 жыл бұрын
The Enchanted Christmas Is Easily The Best Christmas Movie Ever.
@firefly5934 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t wanna be _that_ person, but *cough cough* POLAR EXPRESS *cough cough*
@PhoenixPonyPhoenixOwl 5 жыл бұрын
Any chance that this enchantress is the same as the one in Aladdin, King of Thieves?
@newelljoseph5060 5 жыл бұрын
That was an Oracle. Oracles are wise spirits that inhabit objects or come to those in times of need while Enchantresses and people of magically endowed skills and abilities. Though they are close within the realm of magic they are slightly different
@autumbreeze1129 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe she's the one who put genie in the lamp in the first place
@heatherroberson8981 5 жыл бұрын
I believe that Isaac has a video of this enchantress and Pinocchio’s Blue Fairy.
@misakiayuzawa4402 5 жыл бұрын
i think she is the same on 90% places.
@MetroXLR99 4 жыл бұрын
Actually, the Enchantress looks more like a character from Disney's Gargoyles.
@theanimaljones 5 жыл бұрын
I loved this movie as a child. Tim Curry makes the best villain, he’s an excellent actor. I found it sad that he died at the end of the film. I found it tragic that he couldn’t adjust to other forms of music.
@christophersanchez7731 Жыл бұрын
Forte’s music is ahead of it’s time, in our standards it maybe seem beautiful in its own way, but in his era, it was seen as gloomy as it’s different from the norm Belle herself was looked down on from being different And other great artists like Mozart and in painting Van Gogh weren’t truly appreciated until after they died Forte is like that in that regard, he was a unappreciated genius that got into his way in Prince Adam’s court But He wasn’t appreciative for his work It’s not that easy for an artist to go to other styles, especially those that want to be different, want to create and explore For art is expression, Forte like any artist wanted to create his own music and have it appreciated by others, especially his Master the Prince On Christmas, he went out of his way to create an original peace in the Prince’s honor, but was rejected and saw as gloomy Then the enchantment came Forte being reborn as his own instrument was a dream come true, he can create like never before, to be truly one with music What’s more, his work was finally being appreciated by Beast whose suffering depression Like many depressed people today find comfort in music, Beast found comfort in the work he once rejected Forte finally wasn’t just being appreciated, he was needed, becoming the Beast’s friend and confidante the last 10 years Then Belle came and threatened to take it all away Forte loved his form, not only having an eternal lifespan, and power, he also is one with his art, and his position made him needed by Beast If the enchanting ends and Beast is happy, Forte is no longer needed, like before He became mad in desperation, trying to keep Beast depressed and dependent on him by either killing Belle or alienating her from Beast, when neither work, he was desperate enough to try destroy everything in his madness which led to his Tragic end
@theanimaljones Жыл бұрын
@@christophersanchez7731 That makes a lot sense, thank you. Still wish they would have come up with a more amicable solution though, but sometimes there just isn't one.
@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un 5 жыл бұрын
He's scary but epic
@portoguy5159 4 жыл бұрын
@ginaldoggo yes really
@c_rex3309 4 жыл бұрын
So are you
@bittersprout3694 3 жыл бұрын
Forte's presence, appearance and introduction (as a self-playing piano) makes me question if 'is this a Christmas special or a halloween treat?'
@mcpeanutful Жыл бұрын
It might have been one of those movies that is both Halloween AND Christmas, like The Nightmare Before Christmas.
@GanonGhidorah 5 жыл бұрын
I get that Forte is insane, but during the climax of the film I can't help but focus on the fact that he wasn't thinking clearly. His entire claim to power is by having a close relationship to the Master - manipulating him as it were...He wants the curse to remain, so that he can maintain that power and relevance...BUT...at the end, he's willing to kill both Belle AND the Beast to stop the curse from being lifted. ...What exactly was he planning to do if he succeeded and both of them died? For the one thing...the only person who listened to him or even liked him would now be dead, and everyone else in the castle would've lost their only hope at being human again. Needless to say, I'm pretty sure they'd abandon Forte to his own isolated room in the castle and he'd never see another living soul again. Then what would his plan have been if Belle died but the Beast survived? Did he really think the Master would be content with letting Belle's murderer exist in his castle? All I'm saying, no matter what happens - all of this ends badly for him.
@IsaacCarlson 5 жыл бұрын
I completely agree and I kind of think part of him maybe knew that. I think he would rather be destroyed then ever become an insignificant human again; it's kind of a dark idea but as you explained no matter what he was going to lose in some way.
@adnilnosnhoj 5 жыл бұрын
IMHO, I think being bolted to the wall, like a prisoner hanging from a dungeon wall, drove the sensitive artist insane. The ONLY comfort HE had in this way was the comfort he gave Adam through his music. As a human, he had mobility and freedom but no one appreciated him or validated his talent. He now had someone "love" him, and not just anyone -it was a royal! The master of the house in fact! What a rush to the ego! If he had not been isolated in the darkness, if the other servants besides Fife had visited him regularly, he might have stayed focused on the benefits to returning to humanity, but as we know that did not happen. Once he realized he had no control over the beast, he had a complete nervous breakdown. He lost all sense of what he was actually doing. He was acting out of absolute pain. In his eyes, he had spent 10 years as a prisoner hanging on a dungeon wall, only to be kicked to the curb forgotten and alone. It wasn't returning to humanity he dreaded, it was returning to a life of loneliness and obscurity. Had Disney just taken an extra 3-5 minutes, they could have had Beast assure him that he would always think of him as a valued friend. Belle could have told him it was alright if he didn't like all the cheeriness to Christmas, that she understood not everyone is into all that. Then when they go back to the next Christmas, where Mrs. Potts was retelling the story, and Adam cues for the music, you see Forte at the party as well, but smugly yet gently hands the honors to Fife.
@CherryBun0325 2 жыл бұрын
@@adnilnosnhoj commenting here so I can come back when I need a good cry 🥲🥲🥲 my heart 🤧
@mattybrunolucaszeneresalas9072 Жыл бұрын
@@adnilnosnhoj beauty and the beast, Christmas adventure, live action, remake
@mattybrunolucaszeneresalas9072 Жыл бұрын
@@CherryBun0325 hey you again :D
@CuriousUserX90 5 жыл бұрын
It’s nice that Forte had a Counterpart in the Live Action Reboot, a Good Guy that also happens to be the husband of one of the other characters.
@stargalaxy3639 5 жыл бұрын
Wait really that cool
@MetroXLR99 4 жыл бұрын
I believe that character was a Harpsichord. which is much less intimidating than a Pipe Organ.
@DaronSilvers 5 жыл бұрын
So this might sound lame, but this video ended up helping me a lot. My mom just passed away about a month ago and Christmas is getting really hard. I haven't been in the mood for anything. Then I randomly clicked on this video and liked it so much that I went and watched the movie because I've never seen it. First time I've felt happy all day. So thank you. Maybe you could do a video in the future on the movie itself. That would be cool.
@mayustri 5 жыл бұрын
I can understand your pain , I lost my dad 4 weeks ago (and I am 14) but I am feeling better and I am glad you are feeling better too. Just remember life has to go on. 😊😢
@DaronSilvers 5 жыл бұрын
@@mayustri I'm sorry to hear that, especially at your age. Stay strong! Thank you so much.
@mayustri 5 жыл бұрын
@@DaronSilvers Thanks , may the new year grant us better.
@PeachWookiee 5 жыл бұрын
Hugs to you, Daron Silvers. My mom died over two years ago, a month before Mother's Day. It's always hard when certain holidays roll around. It's okay to do what you need to get through the holiday. I was 36 when Mom died, and it's no easier when you are older.
@thetruejobros872 5 жыл бұрын
I hooe you all have a great new year. Things get better with time.
@justsomeokami8867 5 жыл бұрын
This will always be my Christmas guilty pleasure 😊
@federicodesimone9 5 жыл бұрын
Forte is subtle, and he used his music for destruction and torment because he finally controlled his master, the one who disregarded his works and Belle ruined his plans.
@Itslilmare1938 5 жыл бұрын
Now I remember why he scared me on top of his face. His voice actor, Tim Curry, was the original IT...
@mattybrunolucaszeneresalas9072 Жыл бұрын
Original ?
@simonacannizzo1074 5 жыл бұрын
I love the Enchanted Christmas and Forte is a great Villian! Merry Christmas!
@KimiGR5 3 жыл бұрын
2:23 until everything changed when the fire nation attacked
@ropelittlebear7050 5 жыл бұрын
Does forte kinda looks like the magic mirror from snow white
@mattybrunolucaszeneresalas9072 Жыл бұрын
Hey, you’re right
@bignatemcbc 5 жыл бұрын
I remember being fascinated with Forte and becoming obsessed with Pipe Organs after seeing this movie. I used to just draw him again and again pipe by pipe until I was satisfied! LOL!
@booksinbed7907 5 жыл бұрын
And here we have the third and final, forgotten Carlin brother.
@karamixon5815 5 жыл бұрын
Beauty and the Beast enchanted Christmas (Beast killing his actual serving) - A lot a lot of fandom asking various a questions about the first movie especially about Beast killing his actual serving....well they show it on screen in this Christmas sequel they didn't shy away of the death Maestro Forte Fife tells the Beast that Forte's power comes from the keyboard so he he slammed his keyboard (A.K.A his heart in his lungs when he turned into a organ) in the last screenshot Beast did the right thing but still feeling guilty about it to kill Maestro Forte. what's even darker about this scene of The frist movie belle and adam finally kiss to make the curse broken everyone in the castle Turn Back To Human except for Maestro Forte STILL is a broken organ.
@britainluver431 5 жыл бұрын
That could be a possibility.
@bradyryan5105 5 жыл бұрын
Or Forte returned to his human form but is still dead. So in essence, Adam has a dead corpse in his chambers lol
@CandyCoyote 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Isaac! I have an idea for a video, with that being a video about Sofia the First that explores what happened to Sofia's biological father, and maybe just some background on who he was. It's just a suggestion, but I thought that it would be a very interesting video topic that you might possibly be interested in :> Keep up with the good work!
@bridgetteturner7510 5 жыл бұрын
He was lost at sea
@kaliciamcneese1403 2 жыл бұрын
@@bridgetteturner7510 yes
@Rebel37th 4 жыл бұрын
“You are in much more danger in this very room, I assure you.” So much to unpack there.
@CherryBun0325 2 жыл бұрын
I got to that part and thought, “welp, in hindsight, you weren’t exactly wrong there. 😶”
@bradyryan5105 Жыл бұрын
With that line, Forte was actually threatening Belle with violence
@mossandthings2457 5 жыл бұрын
Just Enough Budget to Animate TIM CURRY'S LIPS!
@Jassiepoohbear 5 жыл бұрын
Oh wow this took me back!!! This was a really good movie! My favorite thing was the song " As long as there's Christmas" and Tim Curry ( voice of Forte) is always the best part in any movie.
@ravenclawfairy3648 5 жыл бұрын
I LOVED this video! Forte is a villain that has stuck with me ever since I first saw this movie! Thank you SO MUCH for making this video! ❤️
@ryansu6746 5 жыл бұрын
No wonder why all the enchanted servants avoided the west wing like please
@airbending_sith 5 жыл бұрын
Real question: how did he get into the master's chamber that quick before he was transformed?? Was he teleported
@BopperBippity 5 жыл бұрын
This movie ads more plot holes to the story then the original.
@adnilnosnhoj 5 жыл бұрын
I think that might be the case. Someone on another site once suggested the Enchantress deliberately put Forte there just so he could be available for the Beast. I once wrote a fanfic where we find out the Enchantress put the curse on the household because the whole lot of them were, one way or another, messed up when it came to relationships. She felt it was her duty to set them all on the right path.
@katherinkeegan8601 5 жыл бұрын
@@adnilnosnhoj The live version of the movie touches on this. The servents blame themselves for not helping him more with relationships and accept their punishment. I always wondered why no one had tried to help him, the movie goes into the reasons.
@elliotfong5061 3 жыл бұрын
Excatly
@amandafox8603 5 жыл бұрын
💜❤💚💙💛 Love Forte! Especially since he's voiced none other by Tim Curry! Thanks for doing this vid. He's one of the most underappreciated Disney villains. Like Ratigan from The Great Mouse Detective.
@dewiciousrromen2719 5 жыл бұрын
I think that Forte looks like he should be in the nightmare before Christmas
@hollywoodnoire 2 жыл бұрын
Since he looks like Oogie Boogie
@mattybrunolucaszeneresalas9072 Жыл бұрын
@@hollywoodnoire who??
@jackmcdonnell8505 5 жыл бұрын
As a kid Forte REALLY scared me and he still scares me I mean look at his design forget Maleficent as a Dragon or Jafar as a Cobra or evil Genie Forte is scary to look at! Awesome video Isaac!!
@valenciageode25 4 жыл бұрын
“I’M MOUNTED TO THE WALL!” So intense...
@WanderingRoe 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for doing a video on Forte, he's so cool and vastly underrated. You provided lots of interesting insights. 😀
@devidindy 5 жыл бұрын
I loved this movie as a kid. It was my favorite Christmas special. Thank you for making this video. Hop you're having a wonderful holiday season.
@SirStephenSW5334 5 жыл бұрын
That was totally AWESOME! Thank you, Isaac. I'm so glad I found your channel and I can continue to support you on Patreon.
@stelladeangelis5618 5 жыл бұрын
Who else never heard of Forte but watched this vid anyway... No one? Ok.., *awkwardly backs out of room*
@cloudperson7377 5 жыл бұрын
Same
@clonecommanderrex8542 5 жыл бұрын
Me
@Eh-its-me 5 жыл бұрын
Hey I'm same
@retosius7962 5 жыл бұрын
*backs out of room after you*
@ZimVader-0017 5 жыл бұрын
I watched this vid BECAUSE I had never heard of him. Wasn't even aware that there was a midquel and sequel for Beauty and the Beast.
@gisselleyanes1269 5 жыл бұрын
Yay I love beauty and the best
@britainluver431 5 жыл бұрын
It was partially because of Forte that I began to develop a love for pipe organ music. Though I used to be scared of him when I was younger, I have grown over it.
@garveyneal1672 4 жыл бұрын
I think Forte serves as the Benidict Arnold of the beast and his servants.
@isaacjohnson9276 5 жыл бұрын
Isaac, this was one of your best videos yet! I vaguely remembered Forte from childhood, but I didn’t realize his story was so interesting. I’ll have to pull out the VHS tape and revisit this movie, especially given it’s the Holliday season.
@DarkSpriteGirl 5 жыл бұрын
I am so glad someone made a video about Forte, even when people says that this movie was stupid and underrated (which I disagree). Not only is B&TB is my fav lovestory but this movie is also a part from it. I only saw the trailer when I was younger and I never was able to watch it, until this year I remember scenes of the organ aka Forte. Finally I have watched it and I have another new fav villain upon my list (especially been voiced by the awesome Tim Curry). Well done on making this video and thanx you for Forte's backstory, Wotso!
@CatalinaLinal7710 5 жыл бұрын
Just imagine how amazing it would have been if Forte had been included into the live action movie as a second villain. If well written and executed having both Gaston and Fortes stories in could create an incredible and grand movie Just IMAGINE the possibilities of (visual) story telling!
@adnilnosnhoj 5 жыл бұрын
That would have been so much fun to watch.
@crystalchampion9617 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah like they did with Gaston
@melissalaliberte5452 4 жыл бұрын
I was hoping for that honesty
@lunamoonstone2350 5 жыл бұрын
this was so amazing thanks for doing this video i love beauty and the beast enchanted christmas forte was the best villain amazing video and have a merry christmas.
@meowsmakemusic718 5 жыл бұрын
Why would a villa name themselves Forte Instead of Fortissimo?
@uberkirbeeh7954 5 жыл бұрын
I remember watching this movie as a kid, so glad you made a video about it.
@derekbackofen6 2 жыл бұрын
Even after his death beast still mourned forte he did care
@moviemaniac2159 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder if when the spell was eventually broken, if the remains of Forte would become a dead body, or if it would just remain a broken organ.
@philipcheung63 2 жыл бұрын
I’m going the latter, as the curse sealed his fate.
@Shroomy22 4 жыл бұрын
Forte scared the absolute living crap outta me as kid, especially his death scene😱 I mean that was just horrifying to say the least
@Gor85 5 жыл бұрын
Pretty good Issac! 😄 Keep it coming! :) Great naration and story. Perfect! :D
@thecourtjester2610 5 жыл бұрын
You know, Forte means loud. A rather good name for a pipe organ.
@elizabethfout3817 5 жыл бұрын
Dude!!!!! I remember this when I was a kid wow what memories!!!! Thank you for doing this one!!! The music was awesome also you have given a fresh look on a villain I really didn't like think maybe you could do a full life story on Cogsworth?
@maggiehydeck8182 5 жыл бұрын
Looks as if you’re home for Christmas. Hope you have a jolly holiday!🎄
@hadassahlovesjesus5680 5 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas Isaac!! 🎅🏻
@michaelmartinez6437 5 жыл бұрын
Forte reminds me of The devil ...
@Rizo2612Studios 5 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas Isaac wonderful and interesting theory on Forte it has become one of my favourite theories you ever done besides my first favourite: Captain Hook and my second: The Underminer you did a great job on theories on such amazing characters keep up the good work. 😇🎄👍🏻😉
@sporkcutletbowl1565 5 жыл бұрын
Nice Video. Forte is a really good villain.
@NathanRBradfordMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Frollo and Forte are my top favorites. You are so good at wording plots
@CharlizeL5151 5 жыл бұрын
Can u do a video on where pixie dust comes from if u can
@Gooberpotomous 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your videos, they give me the knowledge I've always wanted but I don't have the time to research these things. I appreciate what you do
@IsaacCarlson 5 жыл бұрын
I am so glad you have fun with the videos and I can provide some value to you. I am happy I can bring together all of this information that I'm interested in and share it with others who have the same questions and thoughts!
@ManuelFlesch 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the explanation! I love him! 🖤
@mono-watermatt3894 2 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine Forte the Evil Pipe Organ as a boss fight in a Kingdom Hearts game?
@CherryBun0325 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I can, and I will keep wishing until they make this a thing 🥺🤧❤️
@jackrlmiller 5 жыл бұрын
+Wotso Videos Awesome discussion about Maestro Fotre. Beauty and the Beast: The Enchanted Christmas is one of my favourite Disney Christmas movies. Forte is one of the most sadistic direct-to-video villains I really love to hate, with the second being Zira from The Lion King II: Simba's Pride. I hope you have a wonderful Merry Christmas, Isaac. I can't wait for more new videos in 2019. I have some ideas for you that you can do for future videos.
@mattybrunolucaszeneresalas9072 Жыл бұрын
Direct to video? What?
@jackrlmiller Жыл бұрын
@@mattybrunolucaszeneresalas9072 Direct-to-video means that it got released to home video (VHS and DVD) instead of having a theatrical release.
@mattybrunolucaszeneresalas9072 Жыл бұрын
@@jackrlmiller that’s weird…I could’ve sworn I saw it in theatres because I distinctly rmemwmber cowering between seats when Forte fell over
@singalingalongaling 5 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this video! Thank u so much!
@llamantis 5 жыл бұрын
(0:28) Its My mood when I don’t get Wotso Videos and Food!! ❤️😅😁
@Danny-vm8jd 5 жыл бұрын
I loved this Christmas special. I forgot all about it and he was an amazing villain. As a kid I loved how creepy he was.
@ginnymay8965 5 жыл бұрын
Aaaah love this channel!! Your a cool dude!
@MTTT19 5 жыл бұрын
While I’m no fan of The Enchanted Christmas, I will admit that there is one good thing about it. TIM CURRY
@mikelwilcock1658 5 жыл бұрын
I love this movie!! Esspacilly Christmas movies!!!! and also love your videos so much they are fun and awesome!!!!
@stephburdick 5 жыл бұрын
Wonderful video! I loved this midquel, and I’ve always been a Tim Curry fan.
@IsaacCarlson 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Stephanie! I loved it too!
@crystalchampion9617 4 жыл бұрын
Next they need to do a sequel to The live action beauty and the beast
@danielbickford3458 5 жыл бұрын
Mole from Atlantis backstory
@Onyxkokoro96 5 жыл бұрын
Yay!! My Christmas wish was granted....just in time for the end of finals.
@Pinefr0st 5 жыл бұрын
Isaac, Happy Christmas you beautiful and magical guy.
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