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@tropik2413 күн бұрын
Forza Horizon 4 had the best roads, proper winding and wavy roads. Forza Horizon 5's roads are all just: straight line, turn, straight line turn.
@eldaxx1313 күн бұрын
I swear to god everytime i drive in fh5 i literally want to fall asleep
@MG_LIFE_LBS12 күн бұрын
FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT!
@MG_LIFE_LBS12 күн бұрын
I THOUGHT I WAS GOING CRAZY!
@tropik2412 күн бұрын
@@eldaxx13 i have fallen asleep while driving in FH5 before lmao
@CarTastic-fv6eo12 күн бұрын
So just like in USA ? XD.
@prozoomy358813 күн бұрын
thats wild .. this game isnt even that old. Now if people want to buy it they will have to buy keys .
@NeX8513 күн бұрын
Its 6 years old, forza horizon 3 was delisted after 4 years
@prozoomy358813 күн бұрын
@@NeX85 and that was a true crime. I grabbed the platinum edition before it was delisted :).
@joearocho529113 күн бұрын
@@prozoomy3588They have to pay for licensing for over 700 cars.
@Austinredstoner12 күн бұрын
@@NeX85Forza horizon 4 came out in March 2021, so it's not 6 years old for this reason.
@RTBGG12 күн бұрын
@@Austinredstoner it actually came out in september 2018...
@worthy783413 күн бұрын
This some bullshit! This ( FH4) IS MY FAVORITE FORZA HORIZON GAME, PERIOD.
@DUBSmb13 күн бұрын
you can still play it you melon lmao, listen to what I said in the video
@worthy783413 күн бұрын
@@DUBSmb Lol
@Twiggo_The_Foxxo13 күн бұрын
Theyve been doing this since the first Forza motorsports
@jr381913 күн бұрын
He did GENUINELY say so u melon lol😂
@worthy783413 күн бұрын
@@jr3819 lol
@o_Keiiran13 күн бұрын
Its weird how they stop selling these like all the old cods are available but non of the forzas
@willfultrain677913 күн бұрын
It's due to licensing issues and other factors.
@liesideways13 күн бұрын
They're not going to renew licenses for 700 cars mate
@Lamborghini-ml9mo13 күн бұрын
Licensing my friend
@MrBossFML13 күн бұрын
Typically the Forza games have a four year licensing contract, FH4 got a 6 year lifespan though, so it could be the same for FH5
@Twiggo_The_Foxxo13 күн бұрын
Its because cod doesn't have hundreds of licensed cars
@FiatUno200313 күн бұрын
If you guys, for some reason haven't bought this game and want to buy it, the game is now on a 80% sale on Steam (I don't know about other stores). It's sad to see they delisting this game but I'm thankful I bought it and managed to enjoy it as much as I did.
@azamaziz713912 күн бұрын
The dlc are all gone tho, still can get from ulti/deluxe editions tho
@Driving_enjoyer12 күн бұрын
@@azamaziz7139 20 euros for all the packs and dlcs+ of course the original game. best deal you can get
@shivritshukla426512 күн бұрын
If I buy froza 4 rn and when they dislist it in December, is it gonna also remove from my library? Or it's always gonna stay in my library until my account/steam exists.
@azamaziz713912 күн бұрын
@@shivritshukla4265 it'll still be there, even the multiplayer servers will be there too
@pleps309812 күн бұрын
@@shivritshukla4265 always gonna stay
@john715613 күн бұрын
At least the game is still available to play despite it being delisted soon. The same can’t be said for Ubisoft’s The Crew. Eventually, the online servers will also shut down but we can still enjoy single player mode.
@willfultrain677913 күн бұрын
I'm currently redownloading this and motorsport 6. 14:32 I forgot about the Tracktor, too. lol, it sounds so damn good.
@k.r.9913 күн бұрын
Without those licenses, we would have MUCH, MUCH less content. I'm ok with it. The saddest part for me, is, when they take away all the community liveries, -tunings and -events.
@Euristomar12 күн бұрын
And the Eliminator
@OsmanthusWineZhongli12 күн бұрын
It was a good time but ig its quite lucky FH4 is not online-exclusive unlike The Crew so this might be revived through community efforts.
@Driving_enjoyer12 күн бұрын
i played fh2 in 2023. liveries from people were still buyable at least on xbox 360 which is surprising.
@kanayanfantv12 күн бұрын
@@Driving_enjoyer On PC, FH3 as well...
@horatioarkas38913 күн бұрын
Sad that Fh4 is gonna be Digitally D-Listed. I still have it on the Xbox One and loved rallying through the forest. Also the Turbo Rally engine sounds SO much better here then FH5.
@elzwashere43911 күн бұрын
These memory will be missed... staying late for sniping cars, completing seasonal playlist with friends. this game will remind me curing my boredom before entering the college still remember helping new player grind, helping getting the cars the want, etc...
@pyro-tu4le13 күн бұрын
Fh4 is the best game when it comes to atmosphere and I would argue graphics as well. The game runs way more smooth, no crashing shooting you back to dashboard, it was a complete game from day one. Even the sounds are arguably better, I play fh4 more than fh5, fh5 is in my storage if that says anything. Yes we have more body kits in fh5 but that doesn't make you want to drive down the countryside. Glad I have it now and not play it through game pass.
@Jstorm98712 күн бұрын
4:37 you can still get top 1000 on danger signs, in the main map their are 2 or so danger signs (definately northbound danger sign) and you can still get top 1000 on all speed champions danger signs and the majority of the jumps on fortune island
@MrHappyUnicorn13 күн бұрын
Goodbye Forza Horizon 4 I have a good life all these 4 years off playing it since I have Lego dlc code these are the good old memories 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
@FunIsGoingOn13 күн бұрын
I remember when I rented the first Horizon and played it on a friends X360, the old one not the slim, ring of death times. Since then I got the Xbox One on release just for Motorsport 5 and thinking it can only get better, in fact brought me back to console gaming first time since N64. I remember when Horizon 4 came out, there were two kinds of people: a) I hesitate a bit and b) omg I spend days creating and selling decals for early easy money and achievments. Ironically later I found out that most of these people never ever play the sadly delisted FH2, they just started with 3. I don't think those in control let FH4 go away due to soundtrack license issues. In digital versions they could easily remove songs without license for further sales, it would be the easiest change possible, only takes minutes. In fact that happened to GTA IV, when the licenses expired they went on with digital sales and just some songs removed, easy peasy.
@Euristomar12 күн бұрын
The Cars needs licenses too
@blueshadow738513 күн бұрын
Sad its way better than FH5. One detail I love about it is there are more long wide roads where you can drive fast. Too many curves and small roads in FH5. But I dislike that they delisted the Hotwheels DLC cars same day as the announcement. No warning. Thats pretty bad.
@TheRealDJSigma10 күн бұрын
MS are giving out codes for the standard edition of FH4 to people who bought a piece of DLC for it, even if they played the main game via Game Pass, which is pretty cool of them, as then you can carry on playing after it's been delisted. They're sending the code via the regular messaging system on Xbox. Not sure if it's just an Xbox thing, but I don't see why they wouldn't include PC gamers.
@ToraVanguard2004Күн бұрын
I wonder how seasons will work when it gets delisted? Will they still change every week or will we finally be able to manually change them? Sad to see this one go but I suppose it was inevitable. 4 was my first Forza, takes place in my home country and got me through that first lockdown in 2020 lol. Love this game so much, 5 never lived up to it imo.
@sk20k9212 күн бұрын
Forza horizon 4 was my First game I have played that was not Nintendo. I was about 14 when my parent allowed me to use my dads PC because everyone in my school had a PC, xbox, or a Playstation and I was jealous. It will be my favorite for ever. I still suck at every single game. I usually get stuck in tutorials.
@Driving_enjoyer12 күн бұрын
i have a few money saved up and 20 euros for the ultimate edition (all dlcs and packs) is the best deal ever. i played fh4 on my cousins xbox for more than a year before Fh5 came out. so many memories i have with that game. i really gotta buy that man
@Crowping13 күн бұрын
Too bad XBOX erased all my sometimes hours work worth of clips on this game🤧 Great memories it will be nonetheless
@s-350312 күн бұрын
I lost everything over 60 days of playtime memories
@thatonerichguy40511 күн бұрын
If i have it on xbox gamepass do i still have it? Or i can still play it?
@prototypeb348011 күн бұрын
FH4 > FH5 Everything was perfect
@bigbeatmanifesto651713 күн бұрын
I just bought it tonight on steam the best edition for 16 quid,havent played it since the og xbox one and my god is it fantastic compared to that haha. Max everything almost 200fps,its so good
@CactussUk13 күн бұрын
please can you do one last top 1000 video, it would mean a lot to me :D
@itspac_13 күн бұрын
Mad to think this game is 6 years old already if not close to being
@AlwaysVotingMAGA12 күн бұрын
I haven't owned an Xbox since Xbox 360. Should I buy a Series X or Gaming PC to play this game or wait until next gen?
@vorten303612 күн бұрын
More reason to buy the disc copy.
@Dacar17313 күн бұрын
That lusso hurt my ears i forgot about fh4 sounds😅
@_blankface13 күн бұрын
16:15 Thats how Motorfest is - their handiling model is way better than it was on launch
@raphaeme13 күн бұрын
I haven't bought the game but I have all DLCs. Do you know if they will give the key as they did before on other versions?
@ThatOneGuy5843713 күн бұрын
If you bought any DLCs and not the game and also have a fully-paid GamePass as of today (The 25th of June), then Microsoft will send a code for Forza Horizon 4 Standard Edition within the next week.
@raphaeme13 күн бұрын
@@ThatOneGuy58437 yes, i have it active until next month. Thanks for clarifying!!
@DarkKnight284511 күн бұрын
Gonna miss this game, it really was a great title
@Hazzar_Dee_DNB10 күн бұрын
You can still play it you just can’t buy it in the xbox store and removed from game pass
@Invixnlty7 күн бұрын
You don't have to miss shit just get the game
@rodriguez436313 күн бұрын
Are we going to still be able to buy the dlc?
@rinzle3r13 күн бұрын
I already have the base game on steam if i buy the ultimate edition right now i still get the LEGO DLC or nah ?
@christianread909412 күн бұрын
yes
@Invixnlty6 күн бұрын
Ok then what's the point of purchasing ultimate, of course.
@JDumbz12 күн бұрын
I have it on Microsoft store, however I think I'll buy it on Steam again on sale before the delist just so it's in my Steam Library and able to play it on Steam Deck for convenance sake. At least the game is able to be played once the delist happens unlike other games out there.
@Invixnlty7 күн бұрын
I thought you could add non steam games to your steam library.
@Invixnlty7 күн бұрын
I could be wrong I never buy games from Microsoft Store.
@ethanjiang707013 күн бұрын
Prefer 4 than 5 especially the music
@Zihenroy12 күн бұрын
Its not leaving us xD its just not gonna be on sale anymore. Those who have it can still play.
@proholic12 күн бұрын
sad to see, best menu music
@TakuTheKnight11 күн бұрын
This is my favourite part of a the game cycle the part where developers sell it for a attainable price 😂
@UltimateBoy76513 күн бұрын
So will the branded cars still be in FH4 after the license ends?
@misterbag203013 күн бұрын
Yeah of course
@chrismasterson138313 күн бұрын
Every car in fh4 is branded lol. They won’t have a game with no cars
@ThatOneGuy5843713 күн бұрын
Yes. The game just won’t be sold anymore.
@shivritshukla426512 күн бұрын
If i buy froza 4 just now and when they'll dislist it in December, is it always gonna stay in my library or is it gonna removed?
@Marmalade_12 күн бұрын
you'll be fine
@nonamebrotha13 күн бұрын
Does the Ultimate edition on Steam include EVERY DLC ever ? Meaning, if I buy it, do I get all the content ?
@kimsoo1612 күн бұрын
YES
@nonamebrotha12 күн бұрын
@@kimsoo16 Even the Hot Wheels stuff ?
@kimsoo1612 күн бұрын
@@nonamebrotha hot wheels is Forza horizon 3
@nonamebrotha12 күн бұрын
@@kimsoo16 I'm pretty sure FH4 has Hot Wheels expansions too.
@ishan999110 күн бұрын
@@nonamebrotha except for the hot wheels pack
@mattpoteete950013 күн бұрын
Is anyone having issues with the fh4 dlcs. Cause I have all the dlcs installed and some of the car packs are not working
@mr74013 күн бұрын
bought it a year after release, had 3 savegame chrases, came around and completed it again each time. Never made it to grandmaster in online, and only missed owens McLaren out of all the cars. Yeah, Not sad. I got my hours out of it.
@cestusfr12 күн бұрын
Sad they didn't give us a day to get DLC. i missed the island because of it.
@DUBSmb12 күн бұрын
????
@cestusfr12 күн бұрын
@@DUBSmb i have the base game i as soon as they did the announcement they removed the DLC no lego or fortune island extension for me. ^__^,
@DUBSmb12 күн бұрын
they haven't removed anything, the DLC are still there. The game and it's DLC only get removed in December like I said in the video
@cestusfr12 күн бұрын
@@DUBSmb no they are gone on steam . All the DLC are gone since the announcement
@notabelas398712 күн бұрын
@@DUBSmb The DLC has been removed from sale on Steam. The only way to get it is from the Ultimate Edition
@jmac728813 күн бұрын
They realise too many ppl are playing it over 5, just my opinion
@DUBSmb13 күн бұрын
I literally said in the video why. It's due to licensing. Pretty much every game ever that's been released digitally that isn't 100% original content goes through this
@jmac728813 күн бұрын
@@DUBSmb I guess I'm just salty that I'll have to actually buy the game now
@Lamborghini-ml9mo13 күн бұрын
My guy you're dead wrong
@Retrohertz12 күн бұрын
@@Lamborghini-ml9mo He also did say it's just his opinion.
@IAMEYI11 күн бұрын
Yeeeeep that's why I bought physical copy. FH4 had season changes that's a win for me. I don't play any other Horizons because of that factor.
@minorbubble810712 күн бұрын
at least offline mode is available unlike tc
@decatrol262713 күн бұрын
That's a sign that Forza Horizon 6 is on the way.
@christianread909412 күн бұрын
me too how ever i saw a lot of people who still have it so i think it might be a bug
@christianread909412 күн бұрын
lets hope it gets fixed
@FastnOut11 күн бұрын
@@christianread9094it's not a bug? Did you even pay attention to the video?
@TB33_12 күн бұрын
in the US fh4 servers are already gone :(
@zigzagsk813 күн бұрын
What happens if you own a digital copy after that date, will you still be able to play? Just wondering if I should by it again just to have it.
@MrShadow161713 күн бұрын
you can still download and play your digital copy after that date if you already bought it, you simply can't buy it in any digital stores anymore after december this year. But its not like the Ubisoft The Crew situation.
@DUBSmb13 күн бұрын
nothing, you can still play if you own the game. The festival playlist will change I think and won't update again and the game will be delisted from the store.
@iamportalmaster13 күн бұрын
if you use game pass, it'll be removed from there, so you'd still have to buy it if that's the case.
@truegamer_00713 күн бұрын
Does the ultimate edition have all the dlcs? I heard some dlcs aren't part of it.
@ThatOneGuy5843713 күн бұрын
Only the Hot Wheels Legends Car Pack is not included. And honestly those cars were very mid so you’re not missing out.
@tdeclan335013 күн бұрын
@@ThatOneGuy58437 it also does not include mitsubishi car pack
@truegamer_00713 күн бұрын
@@tdeclan3350 Isn't that a free pack?
@tdeclan335013 күн бұрын
@@truegamer_007 it was - however it wasn't included in the standard, deluxe or ultimate. So it was delisted along with hotwheels pack
@truegamer_00713 күн бұрын
@@tdeclan3350 That sounds like an insane oversight tbh.
@JonahMiles-zb6hs13 күн бұрын
Wait so if u have it u can still play it
@ken75912 күн бұрын
What about that for us who have horizon 4 in our systems. Are we gonna lose the credits and achievements and the game completely?
@KiloDarkside12 күн бұрын
If you own the game it will still be available to play, achievements and all.
@Invixnlty7 күн бұрын
Make sure you get the playlists achivements cuz they will be removed forever, this is just sad.
@Martymcfardy13 күн бұрын
Better than fh5
@DarkXWolf-1713 күн бұрын
But The Car Audio Is Worst Than FH5
@warriorgrl307613 күн бұрын
you people who play revisionist history get on my nerves… you’ll be saying FH5 was better than FH6 when it comes out. make up your mind
@iamportalmaster13 күн бұрын
@@DarkXWolf-17 pretty much everything else was better in this game tho
@Lamborghini-ml9mo13 күн бұрын
The car sounds were way worse than forza horizon 5
@Miatr10113 күн бұрын
@@warriorgrl3076 that's not happening if FH6 has a better map. FH5's map is honestly shit compared to FH4.
@Lucas_thecardude5613 күн бұрын
What about game pass will it still be on that or not?
@awi313 күн бұрын
no, motorsport 7 was on game pass and when they stopped selling it they also took it off game pass
@Lucas_thecardude5613 күн бұрын
@@awi3 ah
@prarambh158913 күн бұрын
Ayo i was waiting for the historical low price and guess i got it but delist is kinda sad.
@Invixnlty6 күн бұрын
I never expected forza to be this cheap in my entire life tbh
@BenaresDarkness13 күн бұрын
Shit I'm gonna have to buy it then since I only play with game pass right now.
@MrSidkhan113 күн бұрын
No, if u already downloaded from gamepass u still have it. Have a read on the actual forza website. Plenty and full information their
@omardarwish272812 күн бұрын
Fh4 is now on 80% sale on steam for only 4$ guys am going to buy it for 1st time
@omardarwish272812 күн бұрын
But the online will be still on
@dark2deeds12 күн бұрын
Ive been playing on xbox game pass but i just bought the ultimate edition on steam for sixteen quid
@KenzoObara113 күн бұрын
Hi!
@trevorwhitham674213 күн бұрын
I already have it can I re download it after it’s delisted?
@pewdiepie_76413 күн бұрын
Yes you can
@bullfrog846512 күн бұрын
I wonder why they didn't want to wait until Dec. 15th to delist the dlcs?
@Invixnlty6 күн бұрын
It's part of ultimate which is so expensive, 99$ brings them more money in maybe
@isaacmodimokwane172813 сағат бұрын
They want to milk the game as much as possible through Ultimate Edition before it gets delisted. It's all about the money. 💰💰💰They are clever😜🤔
@Invixnlty11 сағат бұрын
@@isaacmodimokwane1728 they are pretty open about that, just get the ulti for 6$ on steam lmao no need to pay 99 fucking dollars for that in Microsoft store
@tunatuna78913 күн бұрын
i’m i the only one that lost my vip membership after this happened?
@FunIsGoingOn13 күн бұрын
Doing 130 in the Focus "oh thats actually very nice", going 130 on Ferrari ehm 21:30 "this Ferrari is actually very good".
@lmaodavid_12 күн бұрын
Does anyone know how to get the the little badge with star he bas next to his name?
@FastnOut11 күн бұрын
Prestiging
@Concxrde12 күн бұрын
Get it before it’s too late, it is the best Horizon game to date,
@SkullBeast300012 күн бұрын
If we buy it before it gets delisted so can we keep playing it??
@kamil19891612 күн бұрын
Yes we can
@Aextruze11 күн бұрын
What happen if i buy forza horizon 4 ultimate edition? Will it be able to play after December 15 2024 or the game is gome forever?
@impeace101211 күн бұрын
Single player only, you can redownload cuz it will stay in your library, but people cannot buy it after 15th dec
@Invixnlty7 күн бұрын
So many stupid questions
@Parzival089713 күн бұрын
So does that mean you cant buy the dlcs anymore as well?
@tatsuyasan410113 күн бұрын
Yess
@s-350312 күн бұрын
What about the online services? Will they still be going?
@Invixnlty7 күн бұрын
No
@ThePartOfTheHard12 күн бұрын
Anyone want to do ranked drift and playground games? I’m trying to finish starter card 😢
@isaacmodimokwane172813 сағат бұрын
Looking for Ford Capri FE?😅 Me too.
@TazGaming14112 күн бұрын
Gonna install the disc on my series x..sigh dammm👨🏽🦯
@FastnOut11 күн бұрын
How do you install a disc?
@shaneschmitz328513 күн бұрын
What do you all mean bye the keys
@Hazzar_Dee_DNB10 күн бұрын
From stores like cdkeys
@CHILDRIFT12 күн бұрын
If I played it on game pass will I still have it?
@Eclipse-rl.12 күн бұрын
No you won’t but if you buy it from the Microsoft store you will still have it
@CHILDRIFT12 күн бұрын
Aw shucks 🤓
@guinnessmon197011 күн бұрын
Or hear me out…FH6 Eliminator should have a separate map.
@pritam12113 күн бұрын
Goodbye champ the best fh game ever made😞🖤🥀
@wilbjo12 күн бұрын
if you have it on gamepass will you still have it?
@DUBSmb12 күн бұрын
You don’t own any game pass games, you’re basically just renting them
@aschente845512 күн бұрын
@@DUBSmbdude, you don't own any game you buy digitally at all, you're basically renting them too. Educate yourself
@FastnOut11 күн бұрын
@@aschente8455what does this have to do with anything
@aschente845511 күн бұрын
@@FastnOut My comment makes as much sense as the author's of this channel. Reread his comment and then mine.
@FastnOut11 күн бұрын
@@aschente8455 who cares if you don't own digital games. That's not what the original comment was about
@m.i.channel276313 күн бұрын
R.i.p 😭
@Takeoff-fx1ml12 күн бұрын
I was just in Ireland for a few days and it’s amazing here
@PsuNotPsu12 күн бұрын
Any places to recommend for ? I’m looking for green plains and waterfalls?
@Takeoff-fx1ml11 күн бұрын
@@PsuNotPsu DUBS would be a better guilds if plains and waterfalls but as far as cliffs and castles go, the cliffs of moher were sick and blarney castle was cool. In Limerick there’s a medieval feast in a castle with really good food and a guy named Bren does Viking tours in Dublin.
@Atomik88slo12 күн бұрын
lol 9.3.2021-15.12.2024 :p....13,99€
@teviblekhman162812 күн бұрын
I own it digitally play some music
@oliwierkargul13 күн бұрын
🛫
@mori452412 күн бұрын
They still pay for cars licences in Forza Horizon 5... Couldn't they just delete cars without license? The studio still has a license for a lot of FH4 cars, because the same cars are in FH5 and they pay for it...
@FastnOut11 күн бұрын
It has nothing to do with car licensing
@lildzig482513 күн бұрын
time to buy fh5 i guess :/
@3939maqii12 күн бұрын
Are they like closing the whole game and no one can play it anymore?
@FastnOut11 күн бұрын
No
@martonabel270713 күн бұрын
Nooo😢
@dakotaroberts145713 күн бұрын
Second to last
@gretchman11 күн бұрын
So... you're camping near the edge of the map to snipe people coming the opposite way in a race... Then you seek out another car that's doing the exact same thing and get beat. And then get salty and call him a boring virgin. Nice.
@DUBSmb11 күн бұрын
Of course. It's only good if I do it.
@thevinrodrigo914212 күн бұрын
thats it im pirating fh4
@FastnOut11 күн бұрын
Ok have fun being able to play it for a short amount of time
@Invixnlty7 күн бұрын
Idk how this solves anything
@isaiahprays12 күн бұрын
Forza four is better than five change my mind
@dennis296613 күн бұрын
I still think that FH4 is better than FH5.
@RiverNihil13 күн бұрын
give me my money back microsoft
@nightmaremaus40612 күн бұрын
Hell yeah. Give me my money back Microsoft
@LouisHollll12 күн бұрын
You can still play the game
@ExodiaNecross212 күн бұрын
FH3 still king off horizons. Im not going miss FH4.
@Invixnlty7 күн бұрын
Move on
@cindyshields575312 күн бұрын
Sad sad day boys.. I never understood why people disliked fh4. In my opinion fh4 was almost, if not better than fh5 And I'd like to point out. The trees are actually realistic in Fh4. But Fh5 is not entirely close to realistic, there's no random metal unbreakable shed in the middle of nowhere.
@Invixnlty7 күн бұрын
The map and atmosphere is what makes the game pop, it's perfect.
@IDrinkDieselInMyFreeTime13 күн бұрын
last
@Ahzpayne13 күн бұрын
Oh no. I can't play a game I've already played. But how will I relive the same experience over and over and over and over?
@DUBSmb13 күн бұрын
what?
@Lamborghini-ml9mo13 күн бұрын
No you can still play the game if you have it
@va1n1sm8913 күн бұрын
First
@gmologyofficial9 күн бұрын
You are sounding like Biden there. Gotta work in your focus.
@grzmotmine11 күн бұрын
Everyone used to hate on fh4 but now suddenly its good just because fh5 exists. fh5 is straight up better, the map & scenery is the only downgrade.