Fosi Audio BT20A Pro - A Modern Speaker Amp Review

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@LuminairPrime
@LuminairPrime 7 ай бұрын
Excellent videos on this channel, keep up the good work!!
@andrewarthurmatthews6685
@andrewarthurmatthews6685 3 ай бұрын
Excellent sensible informative review
@andrewarthurmatthews6685
@andrewarthurmatthews6685 3 ай бұрын
Having enjoyed this review and others I have just ordered this model for £101 via Amazon UK Ann now looking forward to hooking it up to my new Pioneer CD player and Celestion book shelf speakers on wall brackets. I shall let you know how it goes and if it doesn’t it’s easy enough to return the goods !
@MrBenherrmann
@MrBenherrmann 7 ай бұрын
In my opinion, when you upgrade the removable Op Amps - in particular, with the likes of discrete versions from Burson or Sparkos Labs, the sound qualities of the BT20A Pro will be elevated substantially - that is wider soundstaging, a tonal quality approaching class AB amps, more depth, and smoother (less harsh) transients and instrumental timbre. I was pleasantly shocked at the audio reproduction when this was accomplished.
@ramondelgado6778
@ramondelgado6778 5 ай бұрын
I wish they would have incorporated an input selector within the power switch such as on/off, BT, & RCA input. I purchased this unit about 6 months ago and haven't even opened up yet. I plan to use it for a little bedroom system with a pair of Wharfedale Diamond 12.0 bookselves and a WiiM Pro streamer. Should be awesome!
@GREQReviews
@GREQReviews 5 ай бұрын
That sounds like a really good little setup 🤘
@Porco1984
@Porco1984 7 ай бұрын
I've been running a BT20A Pro with my turntable setup since June, awesome little thing with a quite pleasant sound. Probably not going back to traditional Class AB amps any time soon 😅
@chinmeysway
@chinmeysway 2 ай бұрын
what do you power the phono stage with?
@Porco1984
@Porco1984 2 ай бұрын
@@chinmeysway With a power supply? ... I'm afraid I don't really understand the question?
@tenida_chatterjee
@tenida_chatterjee Ай бұрын
Hi , what's about heating issue ? Please reply..
@tenida_chatterjee
@tenida_chatterjee Ай бұрын
Hi , what's about heating issue ? Please reply .
@Porco1984
@Porco1984 Ай бұрын
@@tenida_chatterjee Haven't experienced any overheating problems. But that said, I haven't been running at more than quarter volume max... Which is more than loud enough for me 😅
@SBCBears
@SBCBears 2 ай бұрын
I've had some very nice and expensive tube amps, e.g. Cary, but this little Fosi beats them sonically and power-wise. And the price! It is one third the cost of the TKD volume control on my old pre-amp. Well, I'm getting older now, so I doubt I'll ever buy another amp.
@hakunamata7580
@hakunamata7580 7 ай бұрын
Kodi i love you
@jean-philippepelan4594
@jean-philippepelan4594 7 ай бұрын
Good video. Just missing a listen test with your speaker.
@Idiotsincarshere
@Idiotsincarshere 6 ай бұрын
New audio enthusiast here. I'm planning to setup the best, simple 2.1 I can, for music and movies. I'm thinking the HSU hybrid 3 with CCB-8. It's 2 CCB-8 bookshelf speakers and a VTF-3 MK5 (15") subwoofer. And power it with this Fosi. I'm wondering if this would work? So I would stream movies from my TV with a set of RCAs to the Fosi Audio BT20A Pro? Then line out to the speakers and the preout to the sub? And all my music would come from bluetooth on my phone I guess? Or stream through my tv. I don't need any other receivers or DACs or anything else right? I don't have any other equipment right now. In the future I may expand to a proper 5.1. Thanks!
@GREQReviews
@GREQReviews 6 ай бұрын
The BT20A Pro does not have a line-out to powered speakers. However, from what I can see online the CCB-8 is not a powered speaker, but a passive one, so maybe you mean speaker-outs to speakers, not line-out to speakers. If that is the case, then it should work, but I can't fully recommend it, because the pre-out to the subwoofer will be affected by the tone controls on the Fosi BT20A Pro. This is what I do, and the pre-out is not powerful enough for my subwoofer (vintage Yamaha NS-W1) If the VTF-MK3 can crank up the volume from a weak signal, then it should work OK. But like I said, I can't fully recommend this set-up.
@gk51171
@gk51171 4 ай бұрын
Hi, and thanks for the review. I am far from hifi knowledgeable person, but I appreciate good sound. I understand that the bt20a pro has a DAC paired with the bluetooth receiver in order to convert the digital to analogue, internally. How this DAC compares to a descent DAC in terms of quality?
@GREQReviews
@GREQReviews 4 ай бұрын
Since the Bluetooth is version 5.0, it is not capable of streaming lossless quality audio. Therefore, from a tehnical point of view, it is not as good as other DACs. Whether you (or anyone) can actually hear the difference is another matter.
@ragingclouds
@ragingclouds Ай бұрын
Is the preout only for subwoofer or it can be connected to 2.1 home theater..?
@GREQReviews
@GREQReviews Ай бұрын
The Pre-Out is a full-range output and can be used with any 2.1 speaker system or anything with an amplifier.
@aureliuse3469
@aureliuse3469 12 күн бұрын
does add preamp like p3 to the bt20apro will increase significant sound quality?
@GREQReviews
@GREQReviews 12 күн бұрын
@aureliuse3469 the general rule with all audio is that the more links they're are in the chain, the lower the audio quality will be - at least in terms of objective measurements.
@aureliuse3469
@aureliuse3469 12 күн бұрын
@GREQReviews ok thank you very much
@Venu.Shankar
@Venu.Shankar 6 ай бұрын
But non of these having remote control ,?? For avarage room size like 12/12/12 FT which is good? Za3 or BT30A ot 20A? And speakers, I can use subs?
@GREQReviews
@GREQReviews 6 ай бұрын
If room size is the deciding factor, then the focus should be on the loudspeakers first. An amplifier will only power a loudspeaker, but the room will be filled with sound depending on the size and ability of the speaker. You can use a powered-subwoofer with the pre-out, but I wouldn't 100% recommend it, as the pre-out is affected by the tone controls.
@iikatinggangsengii2471
@iikatinggangsengii2471 7 ай бұрын
cool, im sure will enhance most 'multimedia' speakers
@iikatinggangsengii2471
@iikatinggangsengii2471 7 ай бұрын
handy 3.5mm lod
@iikatinggangsengii2471
@iikatinggangsengii2471 7 ай бұрын
absurdly high power requirement, mine d20 only like 15v well its speaker amp anyways, usb dacs are 5v fyi
@chinmeysway
@chinmeysway 2 ай бұрын
hey do you know what frequencies are being affected per bass and treble exactly ?
@GREQReviews
@GREQReviews 2 ай бұрын
Afraid not. That's a very good question, though. Since the pre-out is affected by the tone controls, I should be able to find out, using it as a preamp into a headphone amp, then take some miniDSP EARS measurements. I'm genuinely curious too. I'll get back to you on this soon.
@GREQReviews
@GREQReviews 2 ай бұрын
Turns out the pre-out is actually a line-out! So, I don't have a good way to measure this :/
@oliverosrecki7421
@oliverosrecki7421 3 ай бұрын
Good evening. I have one question, if you can answer and explain it to me. My friend told me that these Fossi devices work better and have better sound than Quad 405, 44 and fm4? What do you think? Thanks in advance for your reply and greetings from Serbia!
@GREQReviews
@GREQReviews 3 ай бұрын
Since I have not heard any of the Quad items in question, it is impossible for me to answer. I can only say that these new D-Class amps use much less electricity than those older A-Class amplifiers. (Class denotes power topology, not quality) For a long time audiophiles have claimed that A-Class (non-stop power) has always provided the highest quality audio, and D-Class the worst. However things have changed radically in the past few years, and many are making the switch to new D-Class amps for the simplicity, affordable price, high power, clean sound and tiny footprint.... my BT20A Pro is totally dwarfed by my old massive headphone amps 😅
@oliverosrecki7421
@oliverosrecki7421 3 ай бұрын
@@GREQReviews Ok, your videos Is unbeliveble, just keep going to record videos with FOSI. Can you realy telo me. I heard of my friend befor few days ago, FOSI in rang with some amplifires and better than more expensive? FOSI Is new generation? And for last, tell me whats the name of your microphones stay front your speakers? Using for what? And the name of your speakers?
@GREQReviews
@GREQReviews 3 ай бұрын
​@@oliverosrecki7421 I mean... as long as they keep sending me stuff, I'll keep reviewing their stuff. It's not that difficult to believe - many other audio YT'ers do it. I have no idea if Fosi Audio amps are better than much more expensive amps. That's why I reviewed this item as a product, not from a marketing/audio perspective. I don't use microphones that stay in front of my speakers - I don't understand your question. My main speakers are the Yamaha NS-615B - the 'home' version of the infamous NS-10 studio speaker.
@alvarocolomaleon
@alvarocolomaleon 5 ай бұрын
Do you think necessary also a DAC?
@GREQReviews
@GREQReviews 5 ай бұрын
DAC, CD player, turntable, PC, phone, tablet, reel to reel, cassette deck .... its all good. Whatever makes you happy 🤘
@jd5787
@jd5787 6 ай бұрын
Any big difference between this and the Za3? Thanks!
@GREQReviews
@GREQReviews 6 ай бұрын
I've not tested the ZA3, but it's quite a different design under the hood. But they both use the same amp chip. Not many people are comparing the two from what I've seen. From a very fundamentalist consumer perspective, the BT20A Pro is more of an all-in-one solution, while the ZA3 is aimed for towards people building a larger system, with larger loudspeakers in mind.
@jd5787
@jd5787 6 ай бұрын
@@GREQReviews thanks for the quick reply. Indeed the bt20 pro looks like a all in one solution. I was wondering if the soundstage/imaging would be very different with the Za3 but indeed : nobody really compares these 2... I think I will have to bite the bullet on the Za3 when it available and perhaps try the monoblock setup even though my current speakers are not too power hungry ;)
@Venu.Shankar
@Venu.Shankar 6 ай бұрын
But non of these having remote control ,?? For avarage room size like 12/12/12 FT which is good? Za3 or BT30A ot 20A? And speakers, I can use subs?
@anokapa59
@anokapa59 5 ай бұрын
what's the speaker ohms for this amp?
@GREQReviews
@GREQReviews 5 ай бұрын
As stated on Fosi's website - 2-8Ω
@anokapa59
@anokapa59 5 ай бұрын
Thank you@@GREQReviews
@MichaelBeeny
@MichaelBeeny 7 ай бұрын
Fosi are giving these things away like sweats. (candy)
@GREQReviews
@GREQReviews 7 ай бұрын
I'm certainly not complaining 😅
@andrewarthurmatthews6685
@andrewarthurmatthews6685 3 ай бұрын
No unfortunately they are charging for them in the UK at least
@luckykhan565
@luckykhan565 5 ай бұрын
Can i connect it to AV receiver ?
@GREQReviews
@GREQReviews 5 ай бұрын
Yes. Should be possible as a slave via the line-in and as a master via the pre-out.
@luckykhan565
@luckykhan565 5 ай бұрын
Thanks
@user-tv3nu8zs3s
@user-tv3nu8zs3s 7 ай бұрын
This black ,,brick,, have balance knob ?
@GREQReviews
@GREQReviews 7 ай бұрын
This 'blue' brick has no balance knob.
@user-tv3nu8zs3s
@user-tv3nu8zs3s 7 ай бұрын
@@GREQReviews looks like an mouse trap.
@user-tv3nu8zs3s
@user-tv3nu8zs3s 7 ай бұрын
@@GREQReviews No knobs , no face, no elegance! Like burka over Marlin Monrore.
@GREQReviews
@GREQReviews 7 ай бұрын
@@user-tv3nu8zs3s OK
@jimmynotch
@jimmynotch 6 ай бұрын
I bought two of these with the Fosi 48v PSU's. Both idle warm then overheat and shut off after about 10 minutes of playing music. Serious bummer. My Fosi BT30A's had no problems, just didn't sound as good. These are crap.
@Gadgetdad007
@Gadgetdad007 6 ай бұрын
You probably don’t know how to set these amps properly.
@chinmeysway
@chinmeysway 2 ай бұрын
gone the lower rated power supply, i think some say not head room enough for the 48v but yah that’s pretty scammy
@jimmynotch
@jimmynotch 2 ай бұрын
Or they're just crap.
@lehsu
@lehsu 7 ай бұрын
The narrator and the hands seems like 2 different people.
@Weissman111
@Weissman111 7 ай бұрын
Only problem with it the Bluetooth connection isn't secure.
@GREQReviews
@GREQReviews 7 ай бұрын
Good point. 🤔
@jean-philippepelan4594
@jean-philippepelan4594 7 ай бұрын
Just try to connect another device after first pairing. If not working : you have plenty enought security ;)
@Weissman111
@Weissman111 7 ай бұрын
@@jean-philippepelan4594 If someone else can take over the Bluetooth connection and Fosi's reply is "take the antenna off" then it's not secure.
@jfly237
@jfly237 7 ай бұрын
01:28 Sounds like you Know your Way around Knobs
@pirateradioFPV
@pirateradioFPV 7 ай бұрын
It does. With 156 subs claiming anyone is sending him anything is almost making him one.
@GREQReviews
@GREQReviews 6 ай бұрын
@@pirateradioFPV u jelly 😉
@pirateradioFPV
@pirateradioFPV 6 ай бұрын
@@GREQReviews Beach bum wannabe.
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