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1000 Passenger C-5 Galaxy That Could Transport Cars As Luggage - The Lockheed L-500

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Found And Explained

Found And Explained

Күн бұрын

This plane was so big, that you could take your car with you as luggage and fly to Europe for only 75 dollars. It could transport 1000 passengers, take off and land on any surface and had the sinister motive to force rival Boeing into bankruptcy and end the 747 series. This never built monster was called the Lockheed L-500
In 1968, the first supermassive C-5 galaxy took to the sky flying US airforce colors.
For some, it marked the start of a new age of military transport, but for others at Lockheed, it represented the future of the civil aviation market. One that would put them back on top, dominate flights between New York and London, and prevent the 747 from ever taking flight.
This is the forgotten story of the L-500, or the 1000 seater, monster passenger C-5 Galaxy.
The C-5 Galaxy is the largest military transport aircraft deployed by the US armed forces and has been the lynchpin of the airforces world-spanning network since the late 60s.
The C-5 galaxy was initally created as part of a tender process for a new super transport plane and one to replace the Douglas C-133, as well as complement the lockheed C-141 starlifter.
There were several criteria for this new plane, The US armed forces needed a transport plane that had a larger compartment than the C-141 starlifter, for oversized cargo - like military land bridges. It needed to be a better performer with new jet engine technology, with a load capacity of 180,000 pounds (81.6 t) and a speed of Mach 0.75 (500 mph or 800 km/h), and an unrefueled range of 5,000 nautical miles (9,300 km) with a payload of 115,000 pounds (52.2 t). It also needed a high cockpit for front cargo loading, and a rear door.
The likes of Boeing, Douglas, General Dynamics, Lockheed and Martin Marietta all pitched designs, with Boeing, Douglas and Lockheed making it into the final round.
Lockheed would ultimately be successful and win the contract, as it was the cheapest of the three.
Lockheed planned to put out a nonmilitary version of the C-5-the L-500-by 1971. This would be a meer year after the Boeing 747 would reach the market, and Lockheed knew that it would cut off the rival at the pass - thanks to its existing production line for the military version.
In an all-passenger configuration, the L-500 could conceivably carry up to 1,000 people, which would allow airlines to slice New York-London fares as low as $75. The L-500 would have a range of 4,800 nmi (5,500 mi, 8,900 km), and be able to fly at a speed of Mach 0.79, or 830km/h - which you will note is a tad slower than other commercial jets of the time - like the Boeing 707.
Passengers would be sat on three decks, with economy passengers on the bottom, business in the middle deck and then first class on the top deck. As the top deck extended the length of the cabin, the rear of the deck would feature a lounge and even perhaps a restaurant for inflight dining. Fancy!
Initially, Lockheed planed to produce and sell the L-500 as an all-cargo plane only-offering substantial economics to the market. As Lockheed was also pitching the L-2000 supersonic jet, a video you can watch here on the channel, they believed that the passenger market of the future was limited as best.
There was actually an effort to sell the American auto companies a fleet of these l-500s to haul automobiles around, for sales and for passenger operations. Lockheed pitched the L-500 to car manufacturers in Detroit, as a solution to shipping cars around the country to dealers, and also internationally to other markets.
This would lead to less time for deliveries, lower inventory costs for dealers, less handling costs, and apparently no lossed sales.
Sensing that success with imminent, Lockheed also proposed that its plane could be used as a car transport ferry - with passengers on top and cars below, in a combi configuration. There is an entertaining image of what is a special cargo car ramp to load ontop of pallets. Imagine driving your car onto a plane!
Upstairs there would be 225 passengers in 'airline comfort' seating, and their own cars stacked in three layers, or there would be a mixed freight with cars tucked in the top deck.
So if this design is so brilliant... why did airlines never buy it?
The first is that C-5A galaxy proved to actually have a higher operating cost than airlines, or car companies, would like. It was a powerful plane for sure, but compared to others like the Boeing 747, it was not as fuel efficent. The fact that its heavy, and its wings had several issues that needed to be worked out with better materials. The plane wasn't suited for flying passengers, and was simply not ideal - it couldn't fly the distance, burned too much fuel and was super staged by other creations like the beloved 747.
Ultimately, Boeing did the work to make super-sized planes possible, and Lockheed thought that the market was too small to bother. And the rest is history.

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@FoundAndExplained
@FoundAndExplained 3 жыл бұрын
As pointed out there is one error near the end of the video. I call the other Lockheed Starlifter civil version the L-200 but it is in fact ** *the L-300* . Forgive me please. AND - Mach 0.75 isn't 8000km per hour (hyperloop in the sky lol) - MY BAD! sorry :)
@bartskinthepro3138
@bartskinthepro3138 3 жыл бұрын
Ok
@guydudley
@guydudley 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think you meant to convert mach 0.75 to "eight thousand kilometers per hour". ;)
@brucebaxter6923
@brucebaxter6923 3 жыл бұрын
i always wondered why millitary dont operate airlines and shipping lines to have all the equipment in ready condition at no cost
@noobepro_7146
@noobepro_7146 3 жыл бұрын
Lockheed : That speed, its a good idea, lets make it happen
@Imran_FBD
@Imran_FBD 3 жыл бұрын
Lockheeds Most successful plane to me is. The Black Bird
@tedsmith6137
@tedsmith6137 3 жыл бұрын
There is a certain irony in that the 747 design started out as an alternative to the C-5 cargo plane. When the C5 won the competition, Boeing looked for an alternate use for the design. They moved from a high wing to a low wing, and the rest is history.
@junyissmart
@junyissmart 2 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@VictorRodriguez-cg1kg
@VictorRodriguez-cg1kg 2 жыл бұрын
There is another one that says is was being planned as an air airplane carrier.
@MrMarinus18
@MrMarinus18 2 жыл бұрын
The 747 was designed around the container. The reason it has that teardrop shape is to create the space to shove in shipping containers as they were taking off massively at the time. Today while it is sometimes done usually containers don't contain time sensitive goods and the all steel boxes really cut into the carrying capacity.
@lsmith6378
@lsmith6378 Жыл бұрын
Another plane that has come and gone was the bristol something. You could take your car with you if you wanted. It was a fully functional airline that operated somewhere in the south of UK. Don't know why this airline went but it worked on a schedule for years.
@squeaksquawk4255
@squeaksquawk4255 Жыл бұрын
@@VictorRodriguez-cg1kg IIRC, it was planned as cargo, switched to passenger, and then years later someone thought "What if this was an aircraft carrier?. In that order
@inerfyr
@inerfyr 3 жыл бұрын
I've flown in a C-5 coming back from a TDY, in the top section above the main cargo area. It was the BEST flight experience I have ever had, the seats were like sitting first class, so much room. Slept like a champ!
@insylem
@insylem 3 жыл бұрын
Was it weird flying backwards ? I worked on C-5s for 6 years. Never flew in one. Flew sideways in a C-17 C-141 and C-130
@inerfyr
@inerfyr 3 жыл бұрын
@@insylem only the takeoff was kind of weird at first, but used to it shortly after wheels were off the ground, the rest of the flight was awesome! I'd fly top of a C-5 over a C-17 any time, flown C-17 at least 4 times, maybe more.
@Superwip
@Superwip 3 жыл бұрын
*aircraft salesman slaps the roof of the plane* "This bad boy can fit so many Nissan Leaf in it"
@kleenexbox974
@kleenexbox974 3 жыл бұрын
missed opportunity to say toyota corollas
@Andrea-bc6wl
@Andrea-bc6wl 3 жыл бұрын
How about Smart Cars?
@B-17G_Flying_Fortress
@B-17G_Flying_Fortress 3 жыл бұрын
That's one heck of a tall sales man.
@mrfuzzerkins4170
@mrfuzzerkins4170 3 жыл бұрын
@@B-17G_Flying_Fortress sales man with very tall step ladder
@suvaang1823
@suvaang1823 2 жыл бұрын
@@Andrea-bc6wl how about peel p 50’s?
@emaheiwa8174
@emaheiwa8174 3 жыл бұрын
The best way to start a lazy sunday: One of your videos
@unit-square8193
@unit-square8193 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@rickroberts7611
@rickroberts7611 2 жыл бұрын
That's what I'm doin right now lol
@headlightstheperson4596
@headlightstheperson4596 2 жыл бұрын
Same here XD
@Arsenic71
@Arsenic71 2 жыл бұрын
I flew in a C5 once from Canada to Germany. In the cargo hold there were 2 recon tanks and several helicopters. Absolutely breath-taking scale of things! Only problem with the passenger modules is, you are flyng backwards, i.e. you are facing the back of the plane.
@peterboczan2116
@peterboczan2116 2 жыл бұрын
And no (or very little) windows!
@cjeam9199
@cjeam9199 2 жыл бұрын
It’s safer sitting backwards. I wish they had seats facing backwards as an option more.
@penskepc2374
@penskepc2374 Жыл бұрын
I live near a base they land and take off from, when they start screeching when they're coming in for a landing it always sounds like a planes about to hit the house lmao
@remodrums33
@remodrums33 Жыл бұрын
Fly on one once, and you'll hate flying commercial even more!
@craigmcdaniel7142
@craigmcdaniel7142 10 ай бұрын
Actually, there is a built-in passenger compartment that you have to climb a ladder to access. It accommodates 56 people in forward-facing airline-style seats upstairs just in front of the empinaige (tail section). I'm not sure if it is uniformly configured this way in every aircraft. Apparently, it was designed to make good use of otherwise unusable space required by the airframe.
@user-we3pn3el9t
@user-we3pn3el9t 3 жыл бұрын
Airbus, boeing, and antonov be like : *Intense sweating*
@simonm1447
@simonm1447 3 жыл бұрын
A military aircraft isn't comparable in financial economy to a civilian one, so they don't have to fear anything. There's a reason airlines usually never use aircraft originally made for military, done special cases (like Antonov Airlines for bulky cargo) excepted
@AnComZharptitza
@AnComZharptitza 3 жыл бұрын
Antonov: so... we need to make more AN-225
@MrTaxiRob
@MrTaxiRob 3 жыл бұрын
@@AnComZharptitza last I heard a Chinese state owned company was going to build them under license, but that was a pre-pandemic plan
@AnComZharptitza
@AnComZharptitza 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrTaxiRob AN-225? yeah, I dont think so, theres only 2 in existence, its the biggest plane ever, only one has ever flown. only russia and ukraine have them, ukraine's is the one that never flew, maybe you mean the 124?
@MrTaxiRob
@MrTaxiRob 3 жыл бұрын
@@AnComZharptitza no dude, I'm not mistaken, I'm not making it up, but that doesn't mean it will actually be built, just that someone bought the rights to develop it further and possibly build passenger versions. I personally don't think there's a market for that, but I'd buy a ticket just for the experience if I could. It's the most beautiful thing that's ever flown IMO, like a 1970 Lincoln Continental in the sky.
@opalb9006
@opalb9006 3 жыл бұрын
"they ended up going with Lockheed's design because it was the cheapest of the three" surprising for the us military
@Zomby_Woof
@Zomby_Woof 2 жыл бұрын
It wasn't the cheapest once operational costs are considered. It was a has guzzler. That's why carriers did not order any.
@liuqiuokiman7302
@liuqiuokiman7302 6 ай бұрын
@@Zomby_Woof Yep you just stated a big fact! 👍
@rouvencocker
@rouvencocker Жыл бұрын
Yep I flew one while in the service. 4 LMTVs (trucks) 2 uh60 helicopters, 4 crates of supplies downstairs and a company of infantry upstairs. It's big!!!
@alexdhall
@alexdhall 3 жыл бұрын
Minor nitpick at 3:09, you have the Lockheed Martin logo on the screen even though Lockheed and Martin Manetta would not merge until March 1995....
@alejandrotd7452
@alejandrotd7452 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine being a passenger on the L-500 with the TF-39 engines
@fahmirblx
@fahmirblx 3 жыл бұрын
Demonic roar let's goooooooo
@sirmingusdewiv8325
@sirmingusdewiv8325 3 жыл бұрын
I live near Westover AFB. A C-5 base. You could hear them in surrounding towns. Now with the upgrade you see them, don't really hear them.
@morskojvolk
@morskojvolk 3 жыл бұрын
I flew from Dover AFB to NAS Rota on a C-5 with my family back in 1998. Loooong overnight flight. I remember the lack of windows and rear-facing seats more than the noise. The boarding stairs going up to the aft fuselage were exhausting (I was carrying my daughter and a car seat slung over my shoulder). Overall, it was a great experience (although, _any_ free tranatlantic flight is a great experience).
@rolandomag-asin1765
@rolandomag-asin1765 3 жыл бұрын
What about antonov 225 engines????
@anaetachandler8357
@anaetachandler8357 3 жыл бұрын
Flew in one from pope afb in north Carolina to Panama back in October 87. We were issued ear protection.
@urbanwingnutgaming
@urbanwingnutgaming 3 жыл бұрын
8000 kph? Dang..... That's fast!!
@TheMrPeteChannel
@TheMrPeteChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Ha ha!
@abuBrachiosaurus
@abuBrachiosaurus 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheMrPeteChannel lol typo
@pm9601
@pm9601 3 жыл бұрын
🤣😂🤣
@MichealleShoemaker
@MichealleShoemaker 2 жыл бұрын
Mach 7
@ikill-98
@ikill-98 2 жыл бұрын
SR 71 didn't reach that number
@richardiredale3128
@richardiredale3128 6 ай бұрын
I was a college student in the early 1970's. While visiting Berkeley with my college buddy, I was able to meet with cousin "John" out at Travis airbase (near Sacramento). Just so happened John was chief instructor pilot for the C-5, and he invited us to see inside one of them. Amazing experience. And if you see KZfaq videos of the thing taking off, the engines make a unique "growl" at full tilt.
@SinSpawn9000
@SinSpawn9000 3 жыл бұрын
Two slight note about the troop capacity, yes there is a specific troop compartment that can carry 75 pax, but there is also a courier compartment at the rear of the flight deck which can carry a few more. In addition to that it can (though generally doesnt) have troop seating and comfort(toilet) pallets loaded into the cargo area increasing the capacity that way.
@1992AC
@1992AC 3 жыл бұрын
That Qatari C-17 at 16:20 isn't actually part of Qatar Airways. It is a Qatari Air Force Jet that is operated as part of the Qatar Amiri Flight, a VIP airline operated by the Government of Qatar. Their aircraft are painted in the regular Qatar Airways livery. When you look close at the C-17 in other pictures, you will notice that the roundel of the Qatar Air Force is painted on the wing.
@bernardi5919
@bernardi5919 3 жыл бұрын
Who uses that VIP airline? Just government officials?
@davidsiler5505
@davidsiler5505 2 жыл бұрын
Talking with my mom, McChord Airforce Base could handle and did handle C-5s. Mom loaded them and dad worked on them when the C-5 was at McChord.
@TheWolfHowling
@TheWolfHowling 3 жыл бұрын
The only military aircraft that comes to mind having somewhat successfully made the jump to civilian life might be the Tupolev TU-114, which was based on the TU-95 bomber. Although, it wasn’t a direct conversion as the wings had to be lowered and the fuselage enlarged to become an airliner
@th9006
@th9006 6 ай бұрын
C-130 saw some marginal success as the L-100
@materiagrezza9331
@materiagrezza9331 3 жыл бұрын
So, it's an air ferry. I recall reading about air ferries being popular in the UK between the 60s and the 80s.
@bftjoe
@bftjoe 3 жыл бұрын
What airplane was transporting cars during that time period? You mean hovercraft?
@materiagrezza9331
@materiagrezza9331 3 жыл бұрын
@@bftjoe Look up "British United Air Ferries ", it's interesting. They operated planes that transported cars between mainland UK, France, Belgium, the Netherlands and the Channel Islands.
@bftjoe
@bftjoe 3 жыл бұрын
@@materiagrezza9331 The last car ferry operated in 1977 not the 80s. Not sure how popular something can be when they only had a handful of airplanes and stopped offering ferry service.
@alanwhitfield1907
@alanwhitfield1907 3 жыл бұрын
@@alpiekaar It was the Bristol Freighter.
@doncarlin9081
@doncarlin9081 3 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing those when I was a kid, in airline magazines.
@ck686
@ck686 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine being in one of these doing 8000kmh.
@CutcliffePaul
@CutcliffePaul 3 жыл бұрын
😁
@billolsen4360
@billolsen4360 3 жыл бұрын
had 2 back up 2 make sure I got that right!!
@JonathaninEssex
@JonathaninEssex 3 жыл бұрын
It isn’t 800 kph. It’s a very bad mistake.
@DocWolph
@DocWolph 3 жыл бұрын
My dad had a 1969 Corvair Monza in Hawaii. He loved that car... Maybe I loved it more than he did, but if the L-500 existed then he would have had that car shipped to Texas instead of enduring its rather poor gas mileage, as the engine was setup for weekend racing. Still that plane would have changed so much of the world, not just my little corner.
@kurtflint64
@kurtflint64 3 жыл бұрын
The C-5 military version has a passenger compartment isolated from the flight deck aft, above the cargo deck. It's accessed by its own ladder and that is where there are permanent seats for 73 passengers and two crew. The aircraft is configurable with airline type seats on pallets that rolled in and locked into the cargo rails. It's been too many years now and I can't remember exactly how many seats it is but I think it's something around 250. I never flew a mission that use them.
@Entity_BlackRed777
@Entity_BlackRed777 3 жыл бұрын
THE C-5 GALAXY IS MY MOST FAVORITE AIRCRAFT EVER!!!! (THE C-5A especially, as it had those AWESOME TF-39 ENGINES!!!! Imagine passenger. THAT WOULD BE INSANE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Cisbetterthananyletters
@Cisbetterthananyletters 3 жыл бұрын
Ya me to :D xD 👍
@49mrbassman
@49mrbassman 3 жыл бұрын
Back in the 1950's to early 60's you used to be able to fly from Ferryfield Airport, near Lydd to Le Touquet in France and take your car with you, a service that was part of Silver City Airlines. It was featured in the Morecombe and Wise film "That Riviera Touch"
@jamessimms415
@jamessimms415 2 жыл бұрын
The James Bond movie ‘Goldfinger’ used a modified DC-4 used in Cross Channel service: ‘The aircraft (which has a profile similar to a Boeing 747) that transports Goldfinger and his car out of England is actually an Aviation Traders ATL-98 Carvair. This was a heavily modified Douglas DC-4. The 747 didn't make its first flight until 1969, but the Carvair entered service in 1962 (two years before this movie). The flight number for the flight in the movie was British United Air Ferry Flight VS 400 to Geneva, Switzerland. The airport scene in the UK, is what would become London Southend Airport, the map location also matches its location in Essex, England.’
@briberies
@briberies 3 жыл бұрын
*Ah yes,Lockheed 747.*
@gelatinskeleton8745
@gelatinskeleton8745 2 жыл бұрын
These are cargo planes… I’ve traveled in them, as an air force brat. Sat up top… but had to climb a massive ladder to get to the top where the seats were. The amount of cargo this plane can carry is insane.
@inventor121
@inventor121 3 жыл бұрын
I think it will be interesting with the 747 being phased out the only heavy lift airplanes for cargo airlift will be the Antonovs once the final 747 airframes reach the end of their service life. With the increasing volume of airlift cargo and the ever increasing efficiency of new engines I wonder if the L-500 concept could still have merit if paired with the more fuel efficient engines like the GE-9X. The large underwing space and the sturdy frame of the C-5 make it seem like an ideal candidate for the engine.
@classicgalactica5879
@classicgalactica5879 3 жыл бұрын
The freighter variant of the 747, the 747-8F, will be in production until 2022 and will in all likelihood be flying well into the 2050's. The 747 as a heavy lift freighter isn't going away anytime soon.
@viktor_v-ughnda_vaudville_476
@viktor_v-ughnda_vaudville_476 2 жыл бұрын
I remember one of these taking off at an air show in the early 90’s when they were showing off the f117 and b2 which were both relatively quiet than that beast came out and was incredibly loud and massive! It’s almost unbelievable to see something that big take off and fly. The blue angles were there but the star of the show was def the f14 aerial show and bow at the end.
@mariombrbovic8188
@mariombrbovic8188 2 жыл бұрын
As a person who lived very close to a C5 base , I can tell toy that they r not load, they r deafening!!
@stuartaaron613
@stuartaaron613 3 жыл бұрын
I recall the September 1969 issue of National Geographic which had an article on transportation. In it there was an artists rendition of a civilian version of the C-5 Galaxy set up to transport automobiles.
@blakemoreno776
@blakemoreno776 2 жыл бұрын
The Tupolev TU-114 was an airliner that was basically a modified TU-95 bomber. The TU-114 will always be one of my favorite planes
@georgeayfiled290
@georgeayfiled290 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine some Oklahoma burger head has his F150 transported to the narrow streets of Italiy for a vacation
@robertwilson3914
@robertwilson3914 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine, George, snobs like you in their Prius cars being transported to central Africa and dropped off in the wilderness, never to be heard of again.?... Really? Stereotyping folks from Oklahoma who like burgers and practical truck concepts is really the height of snobbery....do you eat veggie burgers too, and tofu maybe? And, are you running low on pantyliners...?
@janickjorgensen2964
@janickjorgensen2964 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertwilson3914 You too made a hypothetical and unlikely situation to stereotype specific people, and with the added comments in the end of your paragraph makes your statement no better than the original post. Trying to take a "practical" truck into narrow paved roads and taking a "practical" economy car to the wilderness are equally unpractical but also unlikely.
@MrSupercar55
@MrSupercar55 3 жыл бұрын
It'd be a tight squeeze, but it'd be doable. Over here in England I see people trying to drive big American imported cars - mainly the Dodge Ram 3500 and the occasional Ford Crown Victoria - down our roads, which are considerably narrower than American roads. They manage okay, but God help them when it comes to parking.
@downandout992
@downandout992 3 жыл бұрын
@michyy17 Nah, I live in Panama, and I agree with everything that Robert said. The guy was talking like a pompous ass.
@robertwilson3914
@robertwilson3914 3 жыл бұрын
I stand my ground.
@sirxavior1583
@sirxavior1583 3 жыл бұрын
Another big killer for the Lockhead L-500 is the fact that the 747 was already guaranteed a sale even before construction started. Juan Trippe (Pam Am) told Boeing he'd buy the 747 if they could build it. Boeing responded if we build it will you promise to buy it?. Lockhead lacked a guaranteed launch customer for the L-500 and whould still need to pay for the development costs.
@allenmurray7893
@allenmurray7893 14 күн бұрын
In my fourteen years as a flight engineer on the C - 5, only one time did they use passenger seatsin the cargo compartment. None the less, the capability is there, and it does work.
@fredericrike5974
@fredericrike5974 3 жыл бұрын
That said, a civilian version of the L, in American flag airlines, would represent an incredible asset for Military Airlift Command. And if the pricing for shipping high value/high security items like prescription drugs in wholesale lots is kept viable, I think there is a distinct market. Imagine UPS/FedEx/DHL shipping three day air, world wide. Very unitized and machine handled loading areas would want building too. Then there is the impact these could have for a disaster relief effort, at home or abroad. FR
@sukhimoga
@sukhimoga 3 жыл бұрын
I literally got so shook when you said "8 thousand kmph" so casually and then realized it was a mistake 😂
@trailblazewithayush
@trailblazewithayush 3 жыл бұрын
You deserve more views and subscribers.
@Happymali10
@Happymali10 3 жыл бұрын
The "fly to Europe and bring the car" idea isn't that outlandish, among others KLM used a 747-variant that could carry cargo and freight.
@leelauer517
@leelauer517 2 жыл бұрын
In the mid-80's Lufthansa had a version of the 747 which was part cargo and passenger. At the back there was a small window where you could see several cars loaded.
@johnscanlon2598
@johnscanlon2598 2 жыл бұрын
A combi a lot of aircraft could have that configuration
@Fiservv
@Fiservv 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to see a video of the C-5. My Great Grandfather designed the Tail of it! (also shut up about thinking it's not true, and saying im on a roblox player, its my favorite game, and my father had told me that my great grandfather had designed the tail)
@paulh4943
@paulh4943 3 жыл бұрын
Off course he did...
@EFFEZE
@EFFEZE 3 жыл бұрын
Why you lying, why you always lying, just stop friggin lying 🤥
@deakksyy
@deakksyy 3 жыл бұрын
Sure a Roblox playe
@Fiservv
@Fiservv 3 жыл бұрын
@@deakksyy ok? thats because its my favorite game, my dad had told me that my great grandfather had designed the tail
@Fiservv
@Fiservv 3 жыл бұрын
@@EFFEZE idiot it's true, maybe read the comment again
@leiladaquil6587
@leiladaquil6587 2 жыл бұрын
this is a good concept,passengers and cargo in one.The focus is make it lighter so less engine thrust is needed or alternatively,increased range or capacity with original engines.
@kelvinchewjw
@kelvinchewjw 3 жыл бұрын
I cant believe you forgot about the B-58 Hustler conversion for passenger use, it even included a "passenger pod" on the under fuselage pylon so you can "drop off" your passengers 5 minutes or less.
@FoundAndExplained
@FoundAndExplained 3 жыл бұрын
I didn’t “forget” haha I need to do a whole video about it. If something is clearly missing then obviously I’m going to cover it
@kiwitrainguy
@kiwitrainguy 2 жыл бұрын
B-58 shown at 15:37.
@funderstruckdotcom
@funderstruckdotcom 3 жыл бұрын
8000 km/hr mentioned a few times. That’s like Mach 6 😅
@FoundAndExplained
@FoundAndExplained 3 жыл бұрын
yes clearly im very embrarrased
@Fuzziefeelings
@Fuzziefeelings 3 жыл бұрын
No stress. We got the gist. Any person with 2 braincells knew what you meant.
@matthewdavies2057
@matthewdavies2057 3 жыл бұрын
And passenger planes fly at 545 not 650.
@matthewslee910
@matthewslee910 3 жыл бұрын
It's great to see the Lockheed L-500 get a good amount of attention. Great job. And by the way, would you like to do a video of Boeing's mid-wing double decker twin jet patent in the future? Because I think that would quite fun to watch as well. Don't you agree?
@tomatoflight
@tomatoflight Жыл бұрын
Ah yes... 8000 kph.... How nice it have been to fly in a airliner that quick
@noscope1244
@noscope1244 Жыл бұрын
I had to rewind the vid to make sure I wasn't hearing things that weren't there haha
@thisbass
@thisbass 3 жыл бұрын
The C-117 with the Qatar livery is not a commercial use aircraft, it’s a military plane that was painted to allow it to land in commercial airports. Many airports have restrictions on military planes, the paint job sidesteps this requirement.
@FoundAndExplained
@FoundAndExplained 3 жыл бұрын
thats fantastic! yes i was aware it wasn't a civil plane, but wasn't sure why it was Qatar livery.
@philgiglio7922
@philgiglio7922 3 жыл бұрын
I actually had the chance to see one of test bed C-5's @ Warner Robbins AFB near Atlanta in fall '68; on an ROTC field trip to Elgin AFB. Only seeing a standard AF station wagon as the chase vehicle was capable of giving it scale. It was HUGE.
@panelman84
@panelman84 2 жыл бұрын
I think you might have meant Dobbins AFB in Marietta, It is adjacent to the Lockheed Martin plant.
@navad108
@navad108 Жыл бұрын
My dad was in the air force and when he transferred from the Philippines to the mainland our car (VW Beatle) was transported over by C5.
@michaelbenardo5695
@michaelbenardo5695 2 жыл бұрын
Where in the world would you land that monster? It would have been mind-blowingly huge!
@FoundAndExplained
@FoundAndExplained 2 жыл бұрын
Haha would have to redo airports! Like with the a380
@ViperPilot16
@ViperPilot16 3 жыл бұрын
What's funny I can imagine Atlas Air flying charter flights with a couple of these in a combi configuration. Pax top deck, cargo main deck. Would've been really cool to see flying either way. PS: Of note the USAF did drop a Minutemen II out of the rear, and launched it....it worked quite well. Periscope Film has a 30 minute video on it.
@markbernero9302
@markbernero9302 3 жыл бұрын
I had an Entex 1/144 model kit of the C-5 in the late 70s that included optional decals for a Pan Am L-500. I built the C-5 version but a having a second kit for the L-500 would have been nice.
@air-headedaviator1805
@air-headedaviator1805 3 жыл бұрын
Lockheed be like: “what if we did something really expensive”
@Gizmos_and_stuff
@Gizmos_and_stuff Жыл бұрын
Amazing videos man, really enjoying them lately, animations are amazing, your way of saying evrything is so good, just really awesome vids
@WRX7182
@WRX7182 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting to note that the L-1011 TriStar was also used in commercial aviation and never lived up to its promises. Which is a complete shame because the S duct design on the tail engine was ahead of its time and ultimately the TriStar was better than the DC-10. Lockheed has since never again ventured into passenger aircraft.
@williammartin3742
@williammartin3742 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a C-5M Galaxy Loadmaster, and I don't believe the car as luggage would be a very good idea. Even with the kneeling of the aircraft, it would be hard to get most sedans and possibly some trucks over the ramp. Super cool concept though
@whyalwaysme2522
@whyalwaysme2522 3 жыл бұрын
Man this was well.made with lottalove. I'm a subscriber and you should get more subscribers. This is well made indeed. Thank you.
@hackman88
@hackman88 3 жыл бұрын
17:01 high wing design also makes engine maintenance more difficult
@Zoydian
@Zoydian 3 жыл бұрын
Love the C-5!
@wafflehorse1423
@wafflehorse1423 3 жыл бұрын
It sucks that the 747,a380,a340 are being phased out
@murciadoxial8056
@murciadoxial8056 3 жыл бұрын
NOW HERE'S HOW THE L500 CAN STILL WIN!
@wafflehorse1423
@wafflehorse1423 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but it was a military cargo and the military retired it
@murciadoxial8056
@murciadoxial8056 3 жыл бұрын
@@wafflehorse1423 They did?, cause last time I checked they had no real replacement in sight or plans to retire it.
@wafflehorse1423
@wafflehorse1423 3 жыл бұрын
That might be the c-5 galaxy I don’t I get them confused
@murciadoxial8056
@murciadoxial8056 3 жыл бұрын
@@wafflehorse1423 the military version of the one in the video is very much still in production and also there is no plans for retirement or replacement in sight i don't think.
@shannonwittman950
@shannonwittman950 2 жыл бұрын
I guess the tea leaves to be read are what will air travel passengers be wanting (aside from dirt cheap prices) in the future? Will very long distance travelers settle for short range planes (1 to 3 stops; also possible changes of planes), or will they demand non-stop flights? I wonder if C-5 style planes can be more than just wide & long bins stuffed to the gills with passengers? Instead, they might provide (for a much higher cost) small cabins for most passengers, as with trains. Maybe even a full restaurant to replace down-the-aisles service. Going halfway around the world, the passengers would literally be living aboard the plane for 20+ hours. And nowadays there is the issue of whether passengers will behave themselves, also whether jets will continue to be fertile ground for hijackers. Such scenarios might incur the presence of many burley and growling air marshals sporting body armor and non-ballistic weapons, constantly patrolling. And a brig. A really big brig.
@mattn9886
@mattn9886 3 ай бұрын
“I can't see it coming under fire in Detroit “ Sir, living in Michigan I take offense to that statement. Of course it would come under fire! Great video friend
@FoundAndExplained
@FoundAndExplained 3 ай бұрын
Hahah right on!
@roberthorner1231
@roberthorner1231 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! 8,000 kilometers per hour. That's pretty quick.
@henrysmith7276
@henrysmith7276 3 жыл бұрын
For of all sad words of tongue or pen, The saddest are these: "It might have been!"
@RaviShing78
@RaviShing78 2 жыл бұрын
You truly create amazing content and I wish you the best of success by all means.
@snwboardguy04
@snwboardguy04 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been a C5 mechanic for almost 14 years and I never knew this existed. Thanks for this vid man!
@jeremytaylor3532
@jeremytaylor3532 2 жыл бұрын
Surprising that the military haven't upgraded the engines on the C5 like they have the B-52. I'm sure there must be a more fuel efficient jet engine out there that would provide about the same thrust as the existing C5 engines
@indahooddererste
@indahooddererste 2 жыл бұрын
They have its called the C5M Super Galaxy with F138-GE-100 engines which are the Military Version of the CF6-80C2-Turbofans.
@zafaradeel2107
@zafaradeel2107 2 жыл бұрын
More passengers ! ! ! More departed souls ! ! ! !300 is enough number to memorise love ones ! ! !
@I-0-0-I
@I-0-0-I 3 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say that I just came across your channel and it’s great!
@tihspidtherekciltilc5469
@tihspidtherekciltilc5469 3 жыл бұрын
Found this channel and no explanation needed as why I subscribed.
@kristahatton6895
@kristahatton6895 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making these videos and keep making them. Interesting avaition that I didn't know let alone was being thought of. As for the seating I wonder how would that be like and how would they deal with the bathrooms needed? That's alot of people to carry.
@chrishenniker5944
@chrishenniker5944 2 жыл бұрын
The air ferry idea has been done, but I’d like to see one for long distances. If only Sealink or P&O had a fleet, we could have air ferries from Northolt to Florida, New Jersey or Australia. It could have expanded the motoring holiday.
@curvs4me
@curvs4me 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video man! Great research crew and amazing production.
@grantt1589
@grantt1589 2 жыл бұрын
A cargo plane similar the antonov 124 to sell to companies would be cool but a combination aircraft is somewhat excessive
@Perich29
@Perich29 3 жыл бұрын
Not only it would be a 747 killer, it would be a A380 killer
@dream_jr726
@dream_jr726 2 жыл бұрын
I think that the C-5 Galaxy is almost the same as the Antonov An-124 and the 225 Mriya but smaller. Its basiclly the ancestors of the Antonov plane today.
@skookapalooza2016
@skookapalooza2016 3 жыл бұрын
My understanding is the high mounted wings were to facilitate ease of cargo loading for the military. The lessened likelihood of the high mounted engines ingesting debris on semi-improved runways was probably a secondary consideration. Anyway, I really enjoy your vids and am really glad I found your channel. You'll be at 1 million subscribers before you know it.
@Avio033
@Avio033 3 жыл бұрын
I always thought it was because military aircraft need to be able to land on rough terrain, so the engines have more ground clearance with bouncing and rolling in the ground. Plus less chance of stuff flying into the engines when landing on soft terrain.
@pbandj37
@pbandj37 2 жыл бұрын
The high wing design is to keep the engines high enough so that when the plane kneels the nose to receive/drop off cargo. In short, were a low wing design aircraft kneel, the engines would most likely hit the ground. The other concept is that a high wing aircraft can already sit lower to the ground (to accept cargo) than a low wing design. I hope this helps explain why most cargo designed aircraft have high wing designs.
@pbandj37
@pbandj37 2 жыл бұрын
@Chamberlain: To be honest, I have no idea. I simply read the wing part in a book about cargo planes and repeated it here.
@johnscanlon2598
@johnscanlon2598 2 жыл бұрын
@@pbandj37 you are correct , I watched a Lockheed video on the production of C-5 and that was exactly the reason
@Dog.soldier1950
@Dog.soldier1950 3 жыл бұрын
It’s now forgotten that Boeing had a proposed C5A-the mock up is now at JBLM, WA. Taking that concept they developed the 747
@righty-o3585
@righty-o3585 3 жыл бұрын
The Lockheed hangar that they show at 14:57 of this video is the Skunk Works, plant 42 , where the SR-71 , F-117 stealth fighter and , the F-35 were built. Among other well known aircraft. I live just up the street from that building 😁
@michaelbenardo5695
@michaelbenardo5695 2 жыл бұрын
I remember that it was a contest between a Lockheed plane and a Boeing plane.
@rock3times
@rock3times Жыл бұрын
Also the MD12, the 4 engined plane follow up of the DC10/MD 11 , was designed for double decked 1000 passengers plane. There was also a double decked B747 design in which the hump would extend all the length. This veritable double decked would carry 1000 pax as well. Ironically, the premonition of oversized planes would not be profitable , is correct with the demise of the A800 Airbus.
@spaceace1006
@spaceace1006 3 жыл бұрын
A Flying Ferry! Of course, very unusual for any kind of passenger plane to have wings mounted at the top of the fuselage! If Lockheed had been successful with this plane, it would have been pretty awesome!
@gabrielb9010
@gabrielb9010 3 жыл бұрын
This aircraft would have been the American brother of the AN-225
@barbar2
@barbar2 3 жыл бұрын
Nope. AN-124 was designed as the competitor to C-5, and it is a bit bigger and can transport more cargo (150 tons). By the way, AN-124 was designed as a military transport but it was later certified for civilian operations, and there are quite a few civilian AN-124 operating today. AN-225 was (and is) much, much bigger, with the ability to carry up to 250 tons of cargo
@thomasjacques5286
@thomasjacques5286 3 жыл бұрын
The C5 flew almost two DECADES before the Russian copies.
@aladik2010
@aladik2010 3 жыл бұрын
@@barbar2 C-5 Galaxy is father of AN-124 and grandfather of AN-225
@aladik2010
@aladik2010 3 жыл бұрын
@@thomasjacques5286 NOT PArasha, UKRAINIANS made a IMPROUVAL copy of C-5
@Cisbetterthananyletters
@Cisbetterthananyletters 3 жыл бұрын
@@aladik2010 um what are u talking bout :/ i didnt understand C-5 galaxy the father what?
@ramonmedina1974
@ramonmedina1974 3 жыл бұрын
Your videos are awesome! Well done!
@craigrmeyer
@craigrmeyer 3 жыл бұрын
At least pre-covid, many car parts were shipped by air in order to keep the least possible on-site inventory as possible. Road and rail is cheaper, of course, but there's always that one last bolt, screw, wire or brake pad that's the most late, and would be switched to air freight at the last minute, "just in time". Not sure if anyone takes "just in time" inventory-keeping seriously anymore, though.
@dh3069
@dh3069 Жыл бұрын
The Martin Marrietta logo you use is not for the military support company but for the construction materials company that remained after the company merged with Lockheed to become Lockheed Martin.
@danieljohnson6862
@danieljohnson6862 Жыл бұрын
I came here to say this as well. We use them for dolomite for glass making.
@DeliveryMcGee
@DeliveryMcGee 2 жыл бұрын
The Qatar C-17 is actually for carrying the Emir's limo and staff on state visits to other places, it's just in the livery of the flag carrier for diplomatic reasons, because a plane in military livery would annoy people in other middle-eastern countries he visits.
@seanavery7265
@seanavery7265 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing a great job for us .I was at paris airshow and one milatery officer told me the new c 5m can takeoff in 1500 feet .✈️🛫😇🤗🌠
@DarkestVictory
@DarkestVictory Жыл бұрын
Now I wanna buy a C-5
@kiwitelevision
@kiwitelevision 2 жыл бұрын
@ 2.53 8000km/hr 😂 You f***ed that up buddy
@brotherhiram5682
@brotherhiram5682 Жыл бұрын
I rode on a C5 to Saudi Arabia. It took 5 days because it broke 5 times. They are static displays that fly occasionally.
@Mrstealyosr71
@Mrstealyosr71 3 жыл бұрын
Now that I'm here, how tf do u make the 3d models for the aircraft?
@ryanmckinnon1544
@ryanmckinnon1544 3 жыл бұрын
If you go to the KZfaq channel Mustard, he does the same thing and he recommended skill share.
@FoundAndExplained
@FoundAndExplained 3 жыл бұрын
Blender :)
@mr.sir.
@mr.sir. 3 жыл бұрын
You should do one on the XB70 Valkyrie
@richardbriansmith8562
@richardbriansmith8562 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome Video Found And Explained
@jimmydcap
@jimmydcap Жыл бұрын
Great idea. Take your car to an airport. Fly to your destination .
@actemple3282
@actemple3282 3 жыл бұрын
Super cool video loved it
@riliryrimaddyvia9630
@riliryrimaddyvia9630 3 жыл бұрын
I really do love how this channel has grown so much but rather sad that we moved mainly onto aviation
@annonymat
@annonymat 9 ай бұрын
Here's a Slogan' Look at me, I'm not like the other plane, I'm into cars xD
@vinnie5O
@vinnie5O 3 жыл бұрын
Never gets old being on takeoff roll in FREDDY
@Nikolai_The_Grolar
@Nikolai_The_Grolar 3 жыл бұрын
I feel as if it would be a good Combi aircraft, The top deck is a passenger deck whilst the 2 lower decks would be cargo,
@Ankylodon27
@Ankylodon27 3 жыл бұрын
If the past doesn’t work, future will work again
@mattevans4377
@mattevans4377 3 жыл бұрын
I think it would have been interesting if Boeing had won the contest. Someone should do an alternate history on that.
@rwboa22
@rwboa22 3 жыл бұрын
I am familiar with the C-5, living near (actually 1½ hours north of) Dover AFB and seeing them in flight. People regularly complained about the loudness of the Concorde would be virally vocal about the C-5's engines being extremely loud.
@nico.w680
@nico.w680 3 жыл бұрын
1) The 747 has already been de commissioned for most airlines 2) It looks like a mix of an Antonov AN-124 and a C-5m Galaxy.
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