Four of the World's Most Notorious Art Forgers

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@Erevos85
@Erevos85 2 жыл бұрын
scamming Goring during WW2 makes you a legend.
@journeyofaconfusedartist
@journeyofaconfusedartist 5 ай бұрын
Modigliani and Edvard Munch were constantly stolen and forged. How do we know what is real? John Drew can even forge a provenance. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oLekaMiQu7yXdJc.htmlsi=b2HA6Py-XyhWbyVK
@terryenby2304
@terryenby2304 2 жыл бұрын
As an artist, it’s hard to make a penny. If people stopped being so obsessed with names, and started paying attention to things they like the look of, especially the rich… it would be a different world.
@mikeyoung9810
@mikeyoung9810 2 жыл бұрын
Buying what they like if they are rich doesn't mean they want to pay an amount based on how rich they are. If you put a million dollars on your art and they have a billion it doesn't mean they will want to spend a million to get it. Unless there is competition over buying it. And that puts an artificial value on the art which brings you back to where we are today.
@XX-sp3tt
@XX-sp3tt 2 жыл бұрын
God Bless.
@TheAsj97
@TheAsj97 2 жыл бұрын
Rich people don't buy art just because they like the art, it's to launder money. How are you an artist and not know this?
@terryenby2304
@terryenby2304 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheAsj97 for some. Sure. Many like to collect status symbols and such too.
@jeffhildreth9244
@jeffhildreth9244 8 ай бұрын
I disagree, I can't keep up with orders and projects.
@ateriana5116
@ateriana5116 2 жыл бұрын
Art, where the signature is worth more than the painting.
@bigafroman4277
@bigafroman4277 2 жыл бұрын
Kinda takes away from the purpose of the art in the first place, doesn't it? 😞
@warningpage8032
@warningpage8032 2 жыл бұрын
@@bigafroman4277 sadly
@mikeyoung9810
@mikeyoung9810 2 жыл бұрын
If you like the art the value doesn't really matter. Where you get into trouble is when it stops being art and it becomes money. Treating it as money it really is just a signature on the money.
@battlebeard2041
@battlebeard2041 2 жыл бұрын
Art: Yet another tax dodge.
@jeegollyboiohboi3598
@jeegollyboiohboi3598 2 жыл бұрын
Sorta but the art world is really just money laundering that’s accepted socially
@ignitionfrn2223
@ignitionfrn2223 2 жыл бұрын
0:50 - Chapter 1 - Elmyr de hory 4:35 - Chapter 2 - Thomas patrick keating 7:55 - Chapter 3 - Han van meegeren 12:00 - Chapter 4 - Wolfgang beltracchi
@Chris.Pontius
@Chris.Pontius 2 жыл бұрын
Although it's illegal, it's just one of those crimes I really find respectful. They mainly scam rich people who are obsessed by an artist's name, you can't tell the difference and it takes a lot of skill.
@stubbs-letterpress
@stubbs-letterpress 2 жыл бұрын
I personally don't have an issue with art forgeries. Many people have painted copies of paintings they like, and if it's a good likeness, where's the harm?
@henrygustavekrausse7459
@henrygustavekrausse7459 2 жыл бұрын
What if it's bought by a museum? Museums are for the people and as such don't have much money.
@Chris.Pontius
@Chris.Pontius 2 жыл бұрын
@@henrygustavekrausse7459 I reckon they should use someone that can verify the painting before purchasing, but Do people enjoy it any less when viewing forged paintings in museums? If you can't tell the difference I honestly don't see the harm in it.
@henrygustavekrausse7459
@henrygustavekrausse7459 2 жыл бұрын
@@Chris.Pontius If it's found out after purchase, then that museum has just lost a lot of money that it can't afford to lose.
@rashomon66
@rashomon66 Жыл бұрын
They don't only scam rich people. Forgers scam plenty of working and middle class people every day on Ebay and other such auction sites. It's not respectful at all. It's a scam to get rich. If they took the money and gave it to charity then maybe that would begin to be 'respectful. But seriously forgers don't just forge Picasso and Renoir. They forge artists whose work may sell for less than 5K. And they forge signatures on prints and baseballs, etc all the time. Also, the fact that people want to own work because of the artist's name is not unlike people buying books or albums or merchandise based on name recognition. We ALL do that. We don't deserve to be scammed.
@XX-sp3tt
@XX-sp3tt 2 жыл бұрын
You left out that he was given the most minimum sentence possible. And he created a painting right there in the court room to prove he wasn't bluffing about selling a forgery. And remarked how nothing about the painting had changed, yet people wouldn't cross the street to see it for free, when before people would pay moment just for a glimpse at it. He had a point.
@thomaslink2685
@thomaslink2685 2 жыл бұрын
Actuallly, the greatest forgers are like the greatest spies. They’ve never been discovered.
@nosuchthing8
@nosuchthing8 2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm
@brap6557
@brap6557 2 жыл бұрын
yea true, but that’s why the title says “The most notorious forgers”
@journeyofaconfusedartist
@journeyofaconfusedartist 5 ай бұрын
Modigliani and Edvard Munch were constantly stolen and forged. How do we know what is real? John Drew can even forge a provenance. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oLekaMiQu7yXdJc.htmlsi=b2HA6Py-XyhWbyVK
@anthonymiddleton9409
@anthonymiddleton9409 2 жыл бұрын
He sold a fake picasso while picasso was still alive, the nerve of the guy
@dees3179
@dees3179 2 жыл бұрын
People sell fake Tracy Emin works right now. Although she has allegedly admitted she can’t remember exactly which are hers and which are not due to the condition she was in during some acts of creation…..
@julianaylor4351
@julianaylor4351 2 жыл бұрын
Picasso probably thought it was funny.
@bookapillar
@bookapillar 2 жыл бұрын
@@dees3179 I had never heard of this artist....thank you for making me Google something amazing today!😀
@journeyofaconfusedartist
@journeyofaconfusedartist 5 ай бұрын
Modigliani and Edvard Munch were constantly stolen and forged. Picasso forges sold for over £Million. The forger in my video can produce many in a day. How do we know what is real? John Drew can even forge a provenance. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oLekaMiQu7yXdJc.htmlsi=b2HA6Py-XyhWbyVK
@lekiscool
@lekiscool 2 жыл бұрын
This is what makes me sad about dead painters getting posthumous fame. When these people sound like they were good artists but made no money… being alive.
@svsguru2000
@svsguru2000 2 жыл бұрын
The great thing about Beltracchi is, that he did not make copies of existing paintings. He made wholly original paintings in the style of famous painters, then slapped their names on them.
@narmale
@narmale 2 жыл бұрын
thats why i dont get why Eric Hebborn wasnt on this... the man was killed for his crimes against the uber-wealthy... but they cant even tell his works from the old masters
@jeffhildreth9244
@jeffhildreth9244 8 ай бұрын
He did both. But I admire his "originals" most. Brilliant and brash. Two thumbs up
@This_Account
@This_Account 2 жыл бұрын
The curator has one job.
@MtlCstr
@MtlCstr 2 жыл бұрын
The college where I work has an Elmyr de Hory print done in the style of Cezanne. I understand it's value is mostly in the fact that it's one of the few works to which he signed his own name.
@Icanbacktrailers
@Icanbacktrailers 2 ай бұрын
I have a Cézanne by Keating. Bought at the Christie’s Auction after his death in 1984. It’s probably worth less now than it was then
@Ashannon888
@Ashannon888 2 жыл бұрын
Funny thing is van Meegeren's are now worth quite a bit.
@willmfrank
@willmfrank 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, their value has less to do with van Meegeren's talent or ability and more to do with the history and notoriety.
@joshdenton611
@joshdenton611 2 жыл бұрын
i've always loved movies about art forgeries.
@mikegrazick1795
@mikegrazick1795 2 жыл бұрын
This video is a true work of art!
@amandajones661
@amandajones661 2 жыл бұрын
Wow!! Simon's beard is amazing!!!
@ravenhill_firelord_1968
@ravenhill_firelord_1968 2 жыл бұрын
a magnificent episode.
@DJL78
@DJL78 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. Every single one of these lives could be turned into a movie. Or television series.
@markraatsart5049
@markraatsart5049 Жыл бұрын
Great video, many thanks. I would have added the flamboyant and talented Eric Hebborn into the mix too.
@Craftlngo
@Craftlngo 2 жыл бұрын
you have missed to put _Konrad Kujau_ in your video. Not only is he famous for the forgery of the Hitler Diaries. But he was also an excellent painter who could copy the style of nearly every old master.
@stubbs-letterpress
@stubbs-letterpress 2 жыл бұрын
" Bad artists copy. Great artists steal. " - Picasso
@robswystun2766
@robswystun2766 2 жыл бұрын
You had me at "all sorts of horrible stuff."
@surinfarmwest6645
@surinfarmwest6645 2 жыл бұрын
As an artist, I enjoyed this.
@jeffhildreth9244
@jeffhildreth9244 8 ай бұрын
A tutorial in my opinion... good stuff. I have watched many Beltracchi videos, entertaining and educational.
@tefkas1357
@tefkas1357 2 жыл бұрын
How about a Biographics on Han van Meegeren. He discovered (created) 'new works by old masters' and and narrowly avoided the death penalty for his troubles.
@galegrazutis964
@galegrazutis964 Ай бұрын
I would love him to do a still life for me. Would be breath taking. Worth every cent
@ProfAzimov
@ProfAzimov 2 ай бұрын
Forgery seems like an art form
@michaelsherck5099
@michaelsherck5099 Жыл бұрын
In his autobiography, American forger Ken Perenyi claimed that he did not claim that his forgeries were originals, telling galleries and auction houses that they had been left to him by relatives, bought at flea markets, etc. He let the customer make the claims. It may have worked because despite a reputed FBI investigation he was never charged.
@josvercaemer264
@josvercaemer264 2 жыл бұрын
Aren't the best forgers the ones who don't get caught?
@gingerninja4629
@gingerninja4629 2 жыл бұрын
Video idea: body farms. Human remains collected and doled out for forensic training or scientific use. There's a couple notable ones in Utah and Georgia
@TheEvilCommenter
@TheEvilCommenter 2 жыл бұрын
Good video 👍
@michaelpopely4408
@michaelpopely4408 2 жыл бұрын
@sideprojects you should have included Mark Landis the art forger who doesn’t do it for money in fact he gives his paintings away you could do a biographics video all about him
@angrydoggy9170
@angrydoggy9170 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve got an original Picasso for sale. I even make them on demand about any subject you want.
@jeffhildreth9244
@jeffhildreth9244 8 ай бұрын
Currently being done in China.
@theoffbeatarchive9225
@theoffbeatarchive9225 2 жыл бұрын
Keating... Mwahhh (Chef’s Kiss).
@smoothmicra
@smoothmicra 2 жыл бұрын
Lol, how can you dislike these characters, duping the pretentious fops in the art world. Buyer beware!
@fvckyoutubescensorshipandt2718
@fvckyoutubescensorshipandt2718 2 жыл бұрын
Forgery is an art in itself. At the end of the day who cares who actually made it if no one can tell the difference?
@narmale
@narmale 2 жыл бұрын
we the average and great un-washed masses are the winners in that debate... =)
@drmattconrad77
@drmattconrad77 2 жыл бұрын
When I was in graduate school I worked with an art historian to do carbon-14 dating and chemical analysis of paintings to check for forgeries before purchase by a local gallery.
@thepeff
@thepeff 2 жыл бұрын
Buy a real Rembrandt and sell a forgery. This guy is living life in 3021
@stevenboykin116
@stevenboykin116 2 ай бұрын
Van Meegering, born in 1889, wanted to study art. His father wanted him to study architecture, seems familiar... I guess if he did get accepted into art school, he could have been a famous forger instead of what happened.
@This_Account
@This_Account 2 жыл бұрын
It's the perfect crime because it exploits the fault of the curator for not doing their one job. If the curator doesn't do it, are they just going to announce to the world that they don't do their one job? Hell no!
@XX-sp3tt
@XX-sp3tt 2 жыл бұрын
When all you have to fake is a signature instead of faking a masterpiece.
@jcoe371
@jcoe371 2 жыл бұрын
Would be interested in more side projects about criminals maybe a book Thief list with William jacques
@drboze6781
@drboze6781 2 жыл бұрын
It's a work of beauty and a joy forever! Better yet, it's worth money. I'm not crass, I merely have a great deal of taste and refinement.
@KillItAndBurnIt
@KillItAndBurnIt 2 жыл бұрын
I dunno if this is a hot take or not but I genuinely think that if the original artist is dead, then making forgeries of their work (assuming they're high quality enough to fool experts) is a victimless crime.
@OneMoreJames
@OneMoreJames 2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised you didn't include John Myatt. His forgeries netted about $30 million, even though he used house paint and KY-Jelly to make them. And that is both impressive, for him, and a withering indictment of "art experts". He's had a British TV show about painting like the Masters and he still paints them, but includes his own signature, so that they can't be sold as originals.
@narmale
@narmale 2 жыл бұрын
and Eric... i think his researcher was alittle out of their element on this one
@angrydoggy9170
@angrydoggy9170 2 жыл бұрын
Lots of the forgeries are just as well done and creative as the originals. Iy would seem art isn’t so much about the work itself, but more about creating new techniques and styles. As for the value, that seems to be more of a hype thing.
@OneMoreJames
@OneMoreJames 2 жыл бұрын
@@angrydoggy9170 That's the case with any art form. And it's not even about new techniques; it's about fashion, essentially. Some painters are considered great and others are not, because other people say so. You can't make an objective assessment of a subjective quality, like "good art".
@angrydoggy9170
@angrydoggy9170 2 жыл бұрын
@@OneMoreJames Indeed, but a tragic live and death does help.
@sonicgoo1121
@sonicgoo1121 2 жыл бұрын
Elmyr de Hory was also the subject of the Orson Welles movie F for Fake. I'm not sure if I'd call it a good movie, but certainly interesting.
@zyghom
@zyghom 2 жыл бұрын
what is the song at @4:30 ?
@unclejoe7466
@unclejoe7466 2 жыл бұрын
Geeze, there's not much interest in this subject, apparently. I think it's a great video.
@niche0boven
@niche0boven 2 жыл бұрын
The KZfaq Casual Criminalist link doesn't work?
@michaelwhite8031
@michaelwhite8031 Жыл бұрын
Tom Keating, the man who outparmered Parmer.
@coprobot139
@coprobot139 2 жыл бұрын
You don't even need to swap out signatures. Second year at the Kubert School before realizing what a joke that dump was, they hired full time a guy who didn't even bother to swap out the signatures on the art he claimed was his lol
@wyskass861
@wyskass861 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't forgery the sincerest form of flattery?
@jeffsamiei
@jeffsamiei Жыл бұрын
Ken Perenyi deserves to be on the list as well!
@luciustitius
@luciustitius 2 жыл бұрын
Imho Konrad Kujau is one of the greatest forgers ever. Even if you might say his greatest successes - Hitler‘s diaries - weren’t exactly pieces of art in the strict sense; but it was an artform in itsself how he triggered the extreme drive for recognition, the greed and the craving of a few german journalists to rewrite history (an no „Fritze“ wasn‘t Hitler’s second name) - and it was a blow to the reputation to one of the two most reknowed weekly magazines in Germany (Stern) it never recovered from until today. There was a movie made about the whole thing „Schtonk“ of Helmut Dietl, absolutely hilarious.
@mvtv-montanavigilantetv5976
@mvtv-montanavigilantetv5976 2 жыл бұрын
20%? Har! Triggers a suggestion if applicable: many years ago but heard of an experiment/test whereupon highly-rated traditional literature was resubmitted in guise of fresh writing by unknown authors and all were summarily rejected as trash.
@danielekkel2629
@danielekkel2629 2 жыл бұрын
Simon you could do a live on, live aid
@HasturYellowSign
@HasturYellowSign 10 ай бұрын
You missed an hilarious one: Eric Hebborn
@graemeking7336
@graemeking7336 2 жыл бұрын
A few examples of their work would be welcome... Or are there issues of copyright ?
@pilarantelo9555
@pilarantelo9555 6 ай бұрын
Very interesting but if you spoke a bit slower it would be more pleasant to listen to. Thanks
@The_Other_Ghost
@The_Other_Ghost 2 жыл бұрын
is my favorite.
@CashelOConnolly
@CashelOConnolly 2 жыл бұрын
I see the only crime being committed is not telling disgustingly rich ppl that they were not originals.
@henriroggeman7267
@henriroggeman7267 2 жыл бұрын
Elmyr De Hory's life was documented by Orson Welles in de docudrama F For Fake. Highly recommended!
@bradenvicars7112
@bradenvicars7112 2 жыл бұрын
Do Cincinnati’s unions terminal, the biggest half dome in the west hemisphere and it is the pinnacle of Art Deco
@Gift0r
@Gift0r 2 жыл бұрын
I am a bit disappointed that you didn't include Konrad Kujau. But then, he possibly deserves a video for himself, as he single-handedly caused one of the biggest press scandals in Germany, and sold "original Kujau-forgeries".
@avgjoegaming8271
@avgjoegaming8271 2 жыл бұрын
The best was one curator forged the greats but when caught he said others forged his forgeries and they got worse and worse down the line
@davidstein4922
@davidstein4922 2 жыл бұрын
You should have included Ken Perenyi
@robertwilloughby8050
@robertwilloughby8050 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, you can add Shaun Greenhalgh to that list - and he's still alive! He's still profiting in a small way from his crimes, and is now a respected artist in his own right.
@anthonyvalentine4009
@anthonyvalentine4009 Жыл бұрын
BRITAIN'S No1 ART FORGER - MAX BRANDRETT, THE LIFE OF A CHEEKY FAKER biography is out now!
@marcuspoosz2190
@marcuspoosz2190 2 жыл бұрын
now that we talk about Art, i wonder how successfull Hitler would've been if the Art school in Vienna hadn't rejected him Twice.
@gwynyvyr
@gwynyvyr 2 жыл бұрын
It would be nice to see a Top Tenz of the most (successfully) forged artists.
@TheSmilingFear
@TheSmilingFear 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm bit of a contradiction though, isn't it? If the forgeries were successful, we wouldn't know, so a video couldn't be made about them.
@samuelfrank4787
@samuelfrank4787 2 жыл бұрын
Sideproject Idea: Deusenberg Model J
@toddaulner5393
@toddaulner5393 Ай бұрын
If you could get a frame and running gear from an original it could work as the bodies were all one offs.
@thomasbernecky2078
@thomasbernecky2078 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's hilarious myself.
@second2nonebut1
@second2nonebut1 2 жыл бұрын
Art
@owenshebbeare2999
@owenshebbeare2999 2 жыл бұрын
(F)art. A dodgy business for sure.
@violinhunter2
@violinhunter2 Жыл бұрын
I admire forgers because they are superb artists and they fool pretentious "experts." I dislike pretentious, preening, posturing, dishonest, arrogant "experts."
@mrbipolarmattyhoward6071
@mrbipolarmattyhoward6071 7 ай бұрын
Art is not how gifted a person is with creating a piece of artistic genius with qualities of extraordinary beauty creating a beautiful exquisite piece of art. means nothing to art lovers if they don’t demand the highest monetary value in their selling to the world’s richest people. Most expensive art is not a masterpieces genius but a great famous highest values in sales history that are not in any way genius created but popular known rather than exquisite masterpieces.
@meredithv3168
@meredithv3168 2 жыл бұрын
Video 9. Will update those who don't know in the next one
@julianaylor4351
@julianaylor4351 2 жыл бұрын
Many real art works were lost during the Second World War, so all this forgery isn't suprising. In fact many famous artist works have been destroyed or disappeared, for many other reasons too. Beware that if you accidentally buy a forgery, some artist's estates will insist that they be destroyed, after being found to be a fake, leaving you out of pocket on the money you paid. If you want a genuine famous artist's work, it is often better to opt for prints, if the artist has done etchings, aquatints and / or screen prints, because paintings are often the target of forgers.
@tag180rotax
@tag180rotax 2 жыл бұрын
What happened to the Brainfood show?
@Nefville
@Nefville 2 жыл бұрын
I love the idea of art forgery. Hope to see it succeed.
@amaccama3267
@amaccama3267 2 жыл бұрын
Art forgeries bah ! You should see how automotive forgeries are done. Very Very shady.
@narmale
@narmale 2 жыл бұрын
pfft, they cant even bother to get the font correct of the number pad of a 350 LT1 camaro... show me a forger that has taken the time to do that
@Frolkinator
@Frolkinator 2 жыл бұрын
Guess they will have to use forgeries for their moneylaundring then
@TheFiown
@TheFiown 2 жыл бұрын
Pity you didn't extrapolate on Van Meegeren, there was a lot more about the affair but mayb not enough time?
@fvckyoutubescensorshipandt2718
@fvckyoutubescensorshipandt2718 2 жыл бұрын
Art may be faked but I bet Simon's beard isn't.
@NotHPotter
@NotHPotter 2 жыл бұрын
If you enjoy CRIME!
@genoelch
@genoelch 2 жыл бұрын
If Beltracchi is not no.1 then imma head out
@genoelch
@genoelch 2 жыл бұрын
Well..he was but no one will understand why he deserves to be no.1
@narmale
@narmale 2 жыл бұрын
nah, Eric Hebborn
@jeffhildreth9244
@jeffhildreth9244 8 ай бұрын
He was the most intelligent and arrogant of the bunch. Also the best painter.
@MusicalRaichu
@MusicalRaichu 2 жыл бұрын
i wonder if their fakes and forgeries have been preserved and are worth anything these days.
@Jivolt
@Jivolt 2 жыл бұрын
No Neil Caffrey? No Curtis Hagen? You are a particular kind of…
@daniels.2720
@daniels.2720 2 жыл бұрын
...allegedly...
@Jivolt
@Jivolt 2 жыл бұрын
@@daniels.2720 “Daniel… what are you doing?” - Peter Burke
@1.21JJWatts
@1.21JJWatts 2 жыл бұрын
Art, where if it isn't a forgery, it's stolen.
@judsonross6995
@judsonross6995 2 жыл бұрын
Although not art per se, one man forged several dozens if not hundreds of religious artifacts. His name.... Oded Golan. Royal seals, ancient jewelry, aaand... the so called ‘tablet of King David’. The tablet was touted as genuine by several experts until an in-depth analysis of the patina as well as a grammatical error proved it to be false.
@johnmiller8975
@johnmiller8975 2 жыл бұрын
here is a suggestion for Bio or criminalist Forger of Mormon documents and mad bomber en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Hofmann
@jeffhildreth9244
@jeffhildreth9244 8 ай бұрын
Mormons, the worst of them all, greed and murder, to protect their bogus cult.
@williamdrijver4141
@williamdrijver4141 2 жыл бұрын
I find these forgers much more interesting than most artists! The art world is full of dirty money and 95% thin air. Rightly so these highly talented "forgers" tried to get their part of the cake.
@TheSlaughtermatic
@TheSlaughtermatic 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone else get the feeling that this might not be a genuine Simon Whistler?
@pmgn8444
@pmgn8444 2 жыл бұрын
So is this a real Fact Boi video or just a well done fake?
@raycardnail6010
@raycardnail6010 2 жыл бұрын
Just wondering if you like Canada
@cheifwhat
@cheifwhat 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry to pick you up on a technicality but forged art hasn't been around since the dawn of time. In fact, for many billion years after the big bang, there were none.
@DarkGlass824
@DarkGlass824 2 жыл бұрын
Any fans of the film Incognito watching this?
@toddaulner5393
@toddaulner5393 Ай бұрын
2% maybe not 20%
@katewild2194
@katewild2194 2 жыл бұрын
Wolfgang Beltracchi in my opinion was the daddy of them all to dress his wife up as her grandmother and take photos of her in a staged room with the fake paintings on the walls amazing, also he had the ability to fake so many different artists he even thought of the paintings must have the right smell the dust must be of the right age.
@jeffhildreth9244
@jeffhildreth9244 8 ай бұрын
Agreed, he is "the man". I am working on how to copy his "originals" Beltracchi had style and class as well as skill and talent.
@lizdierdorf
@lizdierdorf 2 жыл бұрын
day 18 of suggesting “Das Bauhaus” art school. pretty please!! 🥺🥺
@MelissaThompson432
@MelissaThompson432 2 жыл бұрын
"Gregacious"? 😳🙄😏
@owenshebbeare2999
@owenshebbeare2999 2 жыл бұрын
Meh, a badly forged spelling? Blame the American scriptwriters and editors, as narrators perform their work sic erat scriptum.
@MelissaThompson432
@MelissaThompson432 2 жыл бұрын
@@owenshebbeare2999 sure, because blaming Americans is always better than admitting responsibility.
@crouchend524
@crouchend524 2 жыл бұрын
"cubism and other forms of surrealism"???
@tamasmihaly1
@tamasmihaly1 2 жыл бұрын
She sold him out and then ended up doing time. Nice.
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