fourth generation female vocalists BEST VOCALS! | HIGHEST SUPPORTED MIXED NOTES (update!)

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Жыл бұрын

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@SgtThidar
@SgtThidar Жыл бұрын
Haewon's first mixtape will be released on today 6 PM KST. Im so excited. Lets go! 🔥
@sansn7261
@sansn7261 Жыл бұрын
Haewon nmixx? oh wow
@ourcutenessoverloadlia7488
@ourcutenessoverloadlia7488 Жыл бұрын
Yesss first MIXTAPE and first member is HAEWON!!!!
@ayayajuwi2828
@ayayajuwi2828 Жыл бұрын
Yeah 😍
@kalss7013
@kalss7013 Жыл бұрын
Haewon hit that Eb5 After Cardio and jumping Choreo 🔥
@ronan2218
@ronan2218 Жыл бұрын
Tbh personally hitting a belt (for a few seconds) after jumping/dancing is easier bc u activate ur muscles well. While standing, i overthink it a lot 🤣
@cutiieeepatootieee2002
@cutiieeepatootieee2002 Жыл бұрын
@@ronan2218 nah, the belt didn’t come out as clean because of the same reason not to mention it was chesty which requires more strength. if she were performing it on a different setting, the note would come out better ig
@leonardomapurunga753
@leonardomapurunga753 Жыл бұрын
@@ronan2218 It's also easier to get out of breath.
@muhammaddandi7242
@muhammaddandi7242 Жыл бұрын
@@ronan2218 is there anything to laugh about?
@hitomiryoma6240
@hitomiryoma6240 Жыл бұрын
This generation will eat the vocals😍😍 Haewon Queen of my heart💘💘
@marquersurlalune
@marquersurlalune Жыл бұрын
Jinni has so much potential. That clip was from last year. How dare JYP not give her singing lines. T.T
@oceanwave_
@oceanwave_ Жыл бұрын
Beating the “4th gen has no good vocalists” allegations that were going around just like that 👏🏼 Thank you for the video!
@cutiieeepatootieee2002
@cutiieeepatootieee2002 Жыл бұрын
the thing with 4th gen is, they don’t have many standouts that can go to aa tier atleast but they have a really nice number of vocalists that can support shallowly
@wadianasty2123
@wadianasty2123 Жыл бұрын
@@cutiieeepatootieee2002 they already have 3 people who's in the aa tier tho, and 1 person who's able to beat wheein and hwasa vocally (despite not being in the aa tier)
@cutiieeepatootieee2002
@cutiieeepatootieee2002 Жыл бұрын
@@wadianasty2123 well if you’re talking about regressed mamamoo but remember that they debuted as aa, not to mention yechan and nayul re debuted. we can’t deny that 3rd gen were tanking really hard vocally so having only average vocalists in idol groups during the early years of 4th gen is really a big disappointment
@KittyTsundere
@KittyTsundere Жыл бұрын
@@cutiieeepatootieee2002 Not only that, but also a nice number of vocally balanced (not necessarily outstandingly good) groups as well.
@beefbeef8589
@beefbeef8589 Жыл бұрын
I think the problem is they all focus on popular groups rather then less popular ones. Most of the time the best vocalists are in the underdog groups rather than for example the top 5 in 4th gen (except maybe NMIXX)
@zhejiwooinkwangya
@zhejiwooinkwangya Жыл бұрын
OMG BESTIE Haewon is releasing a song cover (or maybe new song idk yet) today. It looks like they're calling it "MIXXTAPE"
@breats4703
@breats4703 Жыл бұрын
It's somewhat like SKZ-RECORD
@Fred-bc9ts
@Fred-bc9ts Жыл бұрын
Karina sound so promising. I think she can start to support higher soon
@skyline6242
@skyline6242 Жыл бұрын
haewon solo song/cover (?) dropping today hopefully she goes all out with the vocals on the track lmfao but knowing haewon ig we will probably get something like her i love you 3000 cover
@youtubeisntallowingmetocom9062
@youtubeisntallowingmetocom9062 Жыл бұрын
What impresses me from this list is not only Nmixx, but dancers and rappers being able to support, like I'm sorry Juhyeon can dance like a machine and support that high? Even if it's shallow, it's still as impressive, Nayoung shows potential as well! Karina and Giselle is to be expected because they're one of the skilled vocalist here, also my girl Chaewon (LS), her improvement vocally is insane, from not having a supported range to having one
@ayeon5609
@ayeon5609 Жыл бұрын
@Tiffany's pink card 4th gen boy groups are still very very far behind 3rd and 2nd gen.
@ayeon5609
@ayeon5609 Жыл бұрын
@Tiffany's pink card Just hoping that SM new boy group will save the 4th gen male idol vocals. But I also don't have very high hope because I feel like they will have Nct dream level of vocals instead of exo/shinee/super junior/nct 127.
@justanoerfan1572
@justanoerfan1572 Жыл бұрын
@@ayeon5609 the problem with boy groups from 4th gen are that there are standalone vocalists in some groups, but as a vocal whole their isn't going to be a next new "exo" like 3rd gen had, still hoping for better vocals from oneus and treasure
@ayeon5609
@ayeon5609 Жыл бұрын
@@justanoerfan1572 There is literally no standouts vocalists in 4th gen either. Who the hell are you even talking about ? There is literally only one guy from Onewe that is a standout.
@wompwomp8272
@wompwomp8272 Жыл бұрын
@@ayeon5609 does xdinary heroes have good vocals? Even tho if they're a boy band
@sanatmanhare5912
@sanatmanhare5912 Жыл бұрын
Nmixx is monster when it comes to vocals.
@veesky3539
@veesky3539 Жыл бұрын
jyp really treats them well when it comes to vocal
@generalariel6283
@generalariel6283 Жыл бұрын
Even Jiwoo support in Nmixx? :O that's amazing
@zenappa3738
@zenappa3738 Жыл бұрын
I think 5/7 nmixx can support, they’re like the best group JYP have vocally, and like the best one for now among 4th gen. Their songs didnt give then justice tho 👋🥲
@ellendegenreshater3847
@ellendegenreshater3847 Жыл бұрын
@@zenappa3738 im pretty sure 6/7, all of them have shown support except for bae
@aeyoona
@aeyoona Жыл бұрын
@@ellendegenreshater3847 bae supports b3-g4/g#4
@ellendegenreshater3847
@ellendegenreshater3847 Жыл бұрын
@@aeyoona oh nvm then is she consistent?
@davidakbar4876
@davidakbar4876 Жыл бұрын
@@zenappa3738 i thinks it fair enough to say jiwoo support tho its more like 6/7
@fragilepinks
@fragilepinks Жыл бұрын
Lily and haewon>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
@jaehyunsshoe9124
@jaehyunsshoe9124 Жыл бұрын
I keep manifesting that the Average girls (Chaehyun, Winter, Yunjin specially) improve and have at least B4/C5 soon
@rosesgolden1888
@rosesgolden1888 Жыл бұрын
What's winter vocal type?
@nurtilekkylshabaev6247
@nurtilekkylshabaev6247 Жыл бұрын
I’m waiting resonance from Lily and Haewon (now I can say that they will show us how powerful 4th gen vocal)
@Fred-bc9ts
@Fred-bc9ts Жыл бұрын
Chaehyun and Winter C5s sound quite good.
Жыл бұрын
quick update out of boredom :p hope you all enjoy!
@aliyyahbalogun2686
@aliyyahbalogun2686 Жыл бұрын
Which ones would be shallow support. I don't know much about vocals
@zhejiwooinkwangya
@zhejiwooinkwangya Жыл бұрын
WE LOVE YOUUU
@thek-nerd3143
@thek-nerd3143 Жыл бұрын
@@aliyyahbalogun2686 all the ones under b4 I think
@hiiuma729
@hiiuma729 Жыл бұрын
@@aliyyahbalogun2686 Basically everything showcased before Chaewon CLASS:Y.
@vity9534
@vity9534 Жыл бұрын
we love the update 😍❤️
@vvenuskook4170
@vvenuskook4170 Жыл бұрын
WINTER SUPPORTING C5 LIVE?!?! I’m screaming. What a slap to the haters 👏🏼also ningning with the Eb5 we love to see it
@rosesgolden1888
@rosesgolden1888 Жыл бұрын
We just wait for the comeback i hope they're singing live again and winter support C5 too🤍💋
@vvenuskook4170
@vvenuskook4170 Жыл бұрын
@@rosesgolden1888 me too! I would love to see her start to support her C5s consistently. Super excited for the comeback! Illusion was a bop!
@d.n.n2267
@d.n.n2267 Жыл бұрын
@@vvenuskook4170 Stay tuned 20 june will be release their film SMCU 2 hehehehe and 24 June MV life too short
@i_stantalentedgroup_7-7-76
@i_stantalentedgroup_7-7-76 Жыл бұрын
The vocal duo of 4th gen ...on top....as they should 💅💅
@Fred-bc9ts
@Fred-bc9ts Жыл бұрын
The layout of the video is really cool!!
@selmm2023
@selmm2023 Жыл бұрын
I like these types of videos on KZfaq so much more than Tiktok. Tiktok videos like these are always just created to stan fanwars & to hate on groups, but I like how you make these videos almost educational too!
@eternaldandaniexol
@eternaldandaniexol Жыл бұрын
everybody is covering I Love You 3000 😗 n e ways, nice video ✨
@jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjyfto9338
@jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjyfto9338 Жыл бұрын
winter actually has a couple of cute c5s!! she seems very consistent w b4s as well. I think that if she start doing covers of non IU-type of songs she would surprise 👀 like she could have head voice bc it sounds good in the ost and maybe even g#3s but we need to hear her upper and lower register without the airy stylistic choices. aespa as a whole really need more materials omg i dream of them covering their seniors songs like the nmixx girls it would be a great idea @ sm
@cutiieeepatootieee2002
@cutiieeepatootieee2002 Жыл бұрын
i would love it for her to limit herself singing those kind of songs too but it’s better if she would take it as a challenge to be also do better in lighter approach kind of singing
@cutiieeepatootieee2002
@cutiieeepatootieee2002 Жыл бұрын
@@nayeonbunny2727 what? winter has always been supporting b4 since black mamba whether it is the studio or pre recorded vocals and i haven’t heard from any perf where she strained it. ofc it may have some issues but she have b4 down to include in her supported range
@girlyoubetternot3978
@girlyoubetternot3978 Жыл бұрын
​@@nayeonbunny2727 Winter is consistent on B4 and I personally think that Bb4/B4 is her strongest asset.
@davidakbar4876
@davidakbar4876 Жыл бұрын
@@girlyoubetternot3978 her strongest for me is A4-Bb4 for winter
@zhejiwooinkwangya
@zhejiwooinkwangya Жыл бұрын
I believe in you Bae. You can join your sisters in the supported singing club 😫🙏🏿 She really just needs to warm up her voice more often and loosen up on the throatiness. Dropping the stylistic styles should also be a priority too but tbh it doesn't rlly hinder her voice as much 'cuz even when she's singing with this style she is still able to showcase some technical singing (and tbh I really like the way her voice sounds, its so unique and husky. I like how she sounds in their Why So Lonely cover and whenever she takes on the lower harmony during harmonizations).
@davidakbar4876
@davidakbar4876 Жыл бұрын
But tbh bae voice is only match on raggae or maybe r&b music other than that her voice kindaa annoying for me lol 😭😭😭
@zhejiwooinkwangya
@zhejiwooinkwangya Жыл бұрын
@@davidakbar4876 Really up to taste 😓 Personally I really like her voice but yeah Reggae and R&B is great with her tone.
@breats4703
@breats4703 Жыл бұрын
@@davidakbar4876 her voice when she sang "like O.O" it's good imo
@davidakbar4876
@davidakbar4876 Жыл бұрын
@@breats4703 yes but bae voice in hallo gabby and when nmixx sing in wedding argwgaragw 😭
@selmm2023
@selmm2023 Жыл бұрын
I think she has great potential to be a good vocalist, but because she chooses to sing in a more stylistic way, I feel like we don't get to see much of it. Tbh tho I don't mind her stylistic voice though. My question is, is it badly for someone to have a stylistic voice? Like I said, I enjoy her voice and I find it adds a lot to their songs (ik ik they only have 2).
@veesky3539
@veesky3539 Жыл бұрын
omg nayoung, how can she sing that song so flawlessly, really in love with her soft voice since pd48 👏👏
@gabrieloshiro2104
@gabrieloshiro2104 Жыл бұрын
Bae seems to have some sense of support as Jiwoo.
Жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aLl5oK2q1NerYKM.html i'm not calling it support yet eheh maybe if she looses her throat just slightly
@sylversapphire9700
@sylversapphire9700 Жыл бұрын
@ LOOSES HER THROAT 💀💀
@jaehyunsshoe9124
@jaehyunsshoe9124 Жыл бұрын
@@sylversapphire9700 😭😭
@oceanwave_
@oceanwave_ Жыл бұрын
@ Regarding that video, am I hearing things or did Kyujin produce HV there in the pre-chorus (1:58)? And did Jiwoo also showcase solid support in the chorus as well (2:00)? 😳
@davidakbar4876
@davidakbar4876 Жыл бұрын
@ for real bae need too leave her stylistic approach its kinda annoyed me sometimes lol 😭😭😭
@foreverinsfired
@foreverinsfired Жыл бұрын
NMIXX is the 4th Gen vocal group wow
@mambatheestallion1596
@mambatheestallion1596 Жыл бұрын
Winter said this Girls Era will be longer than their previous ones. That only means were gonna get more live vocal materials from them!
@pervyswagg6073
@pervyswagg6073 Жыл бұрын
da whole CLASS:y
@imamaknae5766
@imamaknae5766 Жыл бұрын
nmix 4th generation best vocalists
@vvenuskook4170
@vvenuskook4170 Жыл бұрын
Nmixx, aespa, yechan, Monday, and nayul
@stormykitty4806
@stormykitty4806 Жыл бұрын
Hey @Satzubae do you think it's safe now to change Lily 's supported range from C#5/D5 to D5/Eb5 she has so many Eb5's now and she's very consistent on it now
@billypoko4530
@billypoko4530 Жыл бұрын
Naur, coz I'm stanning both Aespa and NMIXX, for me these girlgroups are at the same level vocally!
@jlolxd
@jlolxd Жыл бұрын
winter defeating the bad at live singing allegations periodt
@weverroa722
@weverroa722 Жыл бұрын
but a lot of her notes were strained tho.
@theeepidural6144
@theeepidural6144 Жыл бұрын
@@weverroa722 not the ones under C5
@weverroa722
@weverroa722 Жыл бұрын
@@theeepidural6144 she's talented but overhyped lol.
@cali1012
@cali1012 Жыл бұрын
I can't wait for bae to show some support and the members being consistent with itt
@stormykitty4806
@stormykitty4806 Жыл бұрын
Lily has so many eb5's now wow she's really impressive i think it's safe now to say that lily's vocal range is G3 - D5/Eb5 -F5/G5
@cutiieeepatootieee2002
@cutiieeepatootieee2002 Жыл бұрын
vocal range or supported range? i won't give her g3 but she def has eb5 down
@cutiieeepatootieee2002
@cutiieeepatootieee2002 Жыл бұрын
@@ceemaaaa well, most of her eb5s are supported so there’s that, however to be able to enter aa-p i would say that having better support is needed. most aa-p as of right now has fuller sound in comparison to lily’s. anyway she may show us more and they’re still relatively new so it’s all estimation for now
@stormykitty4806
@stormykitty4806 Жыл бұрын
@@cutiieeepatootieee2002 supported range she already has so many Eb5 so i think it's safe to change her supported range from C#5/D5 - D5/Eb5 , she even has so many Eb5 than wendy but still wendy is still better
@days3164
@days3164 Жыл бұрын
@João Gabriel Rodrigues Souza i dont really agree, like how is Wendy at Proficient while having very inconsistent resonance??
Жыл бұрын
@João Gabriel Rodrigues Souza that doesn’t really make sense i fear lol lack of resonance is definitely not what’s holding lily of the aa-p, first off because the whole ‘resonance’ term was used inappropriately in a lot of cases, including wendy iirc (means she has never properly “resonated”). lily doesn’t lack in development, she needs time for her technique to settle in, once she’s done with the belting show-off and afford a more balanced mix for the days she will be fine, i wouldn’t be surprised if she can actually support higher than a Eb5.
@mambatheestallion1596
@mambatheestallion1596 Жыл бұрын
Manifesting aespa in sketchbook or do cover medly this era!
@AB-yk2pq
@AB-yk2pq Жыл бұрын
I'm manifesting any kind of live from my girls. I don't want to wait just for encores again.
@MoustafaSElHassan21
@MoustafaSElHassan21 Жыл бұрын
@@AB-yk2pq they are good but we need more material in live Supported range at best NingNing F#3~Eb5~G5 She have one G5 in predebut Winter G#3~C5 Karina G#3~B4 Giselle G#3~bb4 This is insane good job sm like if they prove their consistency that will be insane like the weakest in the group is average damn that amazing
@MoustafaSElHassan21
@MoustafaSElHassan21 Жыл бұрын
@@AB-yk2pq I want them to go to immortal song just like rv
@AB-yk2pq
@AB-yk2pq Жыл бұрын
@@MoustafaSElHassan21 Yeah even Giselle is already better than some idols who have been in industry for a long time.
@MoustafaSElHassan21
@MoustafaSElHassan21 Жыл бұрын
@@AB-yk2pq 100%
@candelita__
@candelita__ Жыл бұрын
yechan is a really good vocalist. pink fantasy deservws more recognition
@Dimyixx
@Dimyixx Жыл бұрын
This gen already have a few Vocalist with a super develped register just like how NingNing and Monday lows are comparable to anyone in 3 gen and Nayul mix being better than anyone in 4th and 3th gen. For head voice no one have shown some support A5 yet but I have high hopes for Lily.
@FeelsLikeHeavenFeelsLikeHell
@FeelsLikeHeavenFeelsLikeHell Жыл бұрын
Bae also seems to have some sense of support. Wish I have seen your video before doing nmixx vocal ranking. Too late to change.😅
@breats4703
@breats4703 Жыл бұрын
Maybe next comeback👀
@selenesaint
@selenesaint Жыл бұрын
its inconsistent but yes she does.
@user-tw1zv8ki9q
@user-tw1zv8ki9q Жыл бұрын
If anyone has full info on the 4th generation nugus like bugaboo, woo!ah!, etc. please comment below. I’m curious if there are any average vocalists not in the community tab yet
@naviscalling2069
@naviscalling2069 Жыл бұрын
I hope that jimin can show us more highnotes and lownotes in their next album!
@KittyTsundere
@KittyTsundere Жыл бұрын
Lily: supporting D5’s and Eb5’s like a boss Meanwhile (looking at the comments from that one recent post from r/unpopularkpopopinions from Reddit): LILY SOUNDS LIKE SHE’S SCREAMING; SHE RUINS NMIXX SONGS BECAUSE SHE’S TOO LOUD; SHE CAN’T BE BETTER THAN NINGNING; Jongho and Yedam are the best 4th generation vocalists and are better than Lily 🤡 (And that one comment who said that certain Pentagon main vocalist is better than Lily 😶).
@jaehyunsshoe9124
@jaehyunsshoe9124 Жыл бұрын
What's your u/ on reddit? Because I feel like I might've talked to you back then
@KittyTsundere
@KittyTsundere Жыл бұрын
@Tiffany's pink card Yeah it's arguably Yonghoon if you don't consider him as a redebut lol.
@KittyTsundere
@KittyTsundere Жыл бұрын
@Tiffany's pink card He’s somewhere in AA and is pretty developed in all three registers (support can be found in 3 registers); however, his quite messy approach (tongue and jaw tension) due to his stylistic choices is what is holding him back from being great.
@zhejiwooinkwangya
@zhejiwooinkwangya Жыл бұрын
HAEWON ATE UP HER MIXXTAPE 😩🙏🏿🙏🏿
@malrafijatmiko4451
@malrafijatmiko4451 Жыл бұрын
omg did winter really supported it live💗
@SuAmazing
@SuAmazing Жыл бұрын
sootzubae best vocals we need
@sanatmanhare5912
@sanatmanhare5912 Жыл бұрын
Please next for 3rd gen🙏🙏🙏
@taeslilclown9801
@taeslilclown9801 Жыл бұрын
waiting for the day Purple Kiss, Billlie and Cherry Bullet finally make it onto these videos
@cutiieeepatootieee2002
@cutiieeepatootieee2002 Жыл бұрын
pk and chebul are on the first part kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sNdmfbGjtcm0YXk.html
@thek-nerd3143
@thek-nerd3143 Жыл бұрын
Thoughts on the Haewon, Chaehyun, Jihan collab? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/lZOcmNud3tHdhn0.html. I feel like they all had good moments here. also Jihan’s belt before the first chorus sounded so pretty
@kaushikidhupar2954
@kaushikidhupar2954 Жыл бұрын
@@Brybeery is it for the better or worse I think I prefer this because my universe is my least favorite cover from her and light approach (I think) generally leads to no room for improvement for a vocalist
@k-idols3763
@k-idols3763 Жыл бұрын
Chaehyun supported Bb4 at 0:22. Jihan supported G#4 it was shallow and nasal at 0:48 and Haewon supported C#5 it was nasal too at 1:03
Жыл бұрын
nothing out of the usual, haewon supports the best followed by chaehyun and then jihan, the latter singing with barely any true connection at all. i’m not personally fond of their voices in this perfomance tbh
@k-idols3763
@k-idols3763 Жыл бұрын
Haewon's Eb5 was also supported in head voice at 1:19
@thek-nerd3143
@thek-nerd3143 Жыл бұрын
@ wow I liked it
@jaehyunsshoe9124
@jaehyunsshoe9124 Жыл бұрын
Where do you edit your videos? The fonts are really beautiful
Жыл бұрын
i use inshot!
@jaehyunsshoe9124
@jaehyunsshoe9124 Жыл бұрын
@ on pc?
@ayeon5609
@ayeon5609 Жыл бұрын
What do you think of Ningning's high note in Black mamba live from aespa's recent vlog ? I thought it was her best attempt, it was bolder and sounded nicer than her pervious attempts.
@zhe9790
@zhe9790 Жыл бұрын
Supported. I think its her best B4 attempt in black mamba tbh, even better than the coachella one and the studio. Hmmm...im not gonna say its bolder, but its more cleaner and the quality is much better.
@jaehyunsshoe9124
@jaehyunsshoe9124 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see Liz in this list soon
@KittyTsundere
@KittyTsundere Жыл бұрын
Yeah same. I predict she’ll be our lowest W-A based on materials from her lol.
@breats4703
@breats4703 Жыл бұрын
If 7/7 of NMIXX supporting, that means NMIXX has no vocal hole?
@cutiieeepatootieee2002
@cutiieeepatootieee2002 Жыл бұрын
@Tiffany's pink card nah even if they were in the other gen, a whole group who can support (them joining aespa for 4th gen) is still a good since most subvocalists back then can support
@user-tw1zv8ki9q
@user-tw1zv8ki9q Жыл бұрын
Half the comments being ”Sullyoon C5? Sullyoon C5!” 😭 also Billlie’s vocal line might be stronger than I thought if Suhyeon and Sua are w-a but I doubt it
@zhejiwooinkwangya
@zhejiwooinkwangya Жыл бұрын
Anyone up for discussion on Seulgi vs. Winter? Even on A4-Bb4 range, I'd say maybe Seulgi and Winter arguably produce the same sound quality but anything higher than that and Seulgi is stronger.
@mixxtopia4930
@mixxtopia4930 Жыл бұрын
I'd say Seulgi overall.
@cutiieeepatootieee2002
@cutiieeepatootieee2002 Жыл бұрын
winter has more relaxed sound til bb4 and gets tight around b4/c5 however despite the issues, seulgi still has the stronger sound and better development all throughout
@zett1807
@zett1807 Жыл бұрын
Seulgi just has a more developed sound from G3~C5 lol
@cutiieeepatootieee2002
@cutiieeepatootieee2002 Жыл бұрын
@@zett1807 oot but what happened to your channel zestie? 😗
@ashley-gu4yw
@ashley-gu4yw Жыл бұрын
chaehyun appreciation >>>
@PrxppyCoca1nedrxgsXxtx
@PrxppyCoca1nedrxgsXxtx 6 ай бұрын
Lily has E5 now🤩🤩🤩
@jaehyunsshoe9124
@jaehyunsshoe9124 Жыл бұрын
Is Ningning's Eb5 on the ost really supported? I've seen people claim it, mostly on tiktok
@vvenuskook4170
@vvenuskook4170 Жыл бұрын
Yes, it was supported
Жыл бұрын
oh yes it was it was included in the video as well but got cut off due to copyright lol
@vvenuskook4170
@vvenuskook4170 Жыл бұрын
@João Gabriel Rodrigues Souza yeah I agree
@little_N_mixx
@little_N_mixx Жыл бұрын
I have a question, can you recognize supported notes from a studio vocal?
@KittyTsundere
@KittyTsundere Жыл бұрын
You can recognize supported notes from a studio version, but the problem is that depending on how much studio mixing is involved, it can be a bit tricky lol.
@zhejiwooinkwangya
@zhejiwooinkwangya Жыл бұрын
You defintiely can but its a bit finicky because studio mixing and post production effects might amplify or weaken the sound of a singer at times making it trickier to identify support. It's usually why ppl mostly prefer live singing when evaluating vocals.
@kaushikidhupar2954
@kaushikidhupar2954 Жыл бұрын
Hey sootzubae can you make a video titled unpopular vocal opinions in which you solely debunk popular myths about kpop vocals like mine is 1 kpop 4th gg vocals are bad (hell no look at nmixx, aespa ) 2 yeji is better than lia (sis can sing higher than lia but that doesn't mean anything if she can't support those notes) 3 stylistic singers are inherently bad (you just need to find a balance like rose and jihyo did) 4 joy is a good vocalist 5 being from sm doesn't automatically make you better than the rest of kpop vocalist
@KittyTsundere
@KittyTsundere Жыл бұрын
Wait, doesn't Joy get praised for her vocals a lot because of being from SM? There are sub-vocalists out there who are around her level or even better (ex. V, Chaeyoung) who don't even get that type of praise like Joy and/or get way more backlash for their vocals than she does in contrast lmao.
@kaushikidhupar2954
@kaushikidhupar2954 Жыл бұрын
@@KittyTsundere yes I meant the same thing it's just English is not my first language and I got confused lol I agree joy gets over praised
@kaushikidhupar2954
@kaushikidhupar2954 Жыл бұрын
@@KittyTsundere tbh even tzuyu who is considered absolutely talentless is underpraised only because she is from twice if she , chaeyoung and mina were in sm they would be beloved vocalist like irene and joy
@AB-yk2pq
@AB-yk2pq Жыл бұрын
I recently had an argument with Joy's stan who claimed Joy is a better vocalist than Karina or Giselle. They ended up not answering basically.
@yuki_ccy
@yuki_ccy Жыл бұрын
@@kaushikidhupar2954 I feel like so many view her as a talentless visual, so many people put Sana above her in vocal rankings…
@d.n.n2267
@d.n.n2267 Жыл бұрын
#ask Rose in Low or Mid W-A? How far are karina and winter, and will she catch winter?
@davidakbar4876
@davidakbar4876 Жыл бұрын
Rose is in low to mid w-a and there's noticable gap between winter and karina and i don't think karina can catch winter but yeah lets hope cuz karina had potential she already have better low than winter but winter still had much better mix than karina when she use bolder approach
@d.n.n2267
@d.n.n2267 Жыл бұрын
@@davidakbar4876 ohokk
@d.n.n2267
@d.n.n2267 Жыл бұрын
@@davidakbar4876 Does giselle have any chance of reaching karina?
@davidakbar4876
@davidakbar4876 Жыл бұрын
@@d.n.n2267 giselle is barely singing but yeaa i do have hope she can catch karina in w-a tier since she's already shown potential to support Bb4
@eternaldandaniexol
@eternaldandaniexol Жыл бұрын
@@davidakbar4876 girl also showcased G#3s and some solid support
@jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjyfto9338
@jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjyfto9338 Жыл бұрын
does anyone knows how the billlie members are doing vocal wise?
@nurtilekkylshabaev6247
@nurtilekkylshabaev6247 Жыл бұрын
Billlie’s vocal line also strong.In this group 4/7 can support(Haram,Suhyeon,Sua,Sheon).We need more materials from Sheon.
@no4528
@no4528 Жыл бұрын
@@nurtilekkylshabaev6247 I heard that Sheon & Siyoon have good moment in G#4
@vvenuskook4170
@vvenuskook4170 Жыл бұрын
Would someone be able to tell me aespas updated supported ranges? I’ve been hearing different things so I want to see what the majority of people would say :)
@mateoguzman8875
@mateoguzman8875 Жыл бұрын
Giselle A3/Bb3-A4 Karina A3/Bb3-Bb4 Winter A3/Bb3-Bb4/B4 Ningning G3/G#3-C5/C#5-Eb5
@byeonggon
@byeonggon Жыл бұрын
ningning G3/G#3 ~ C5/C#5 ~ Eb5/E5 at best F#3 ~ Eb5 ~ G5 winter A3/Bb3 ~ Bb4/B4 at best G#3 ~ C5 karina A3/Bb3 ~ A4/Bb4 at best G#3 ~ B4 giselle A3/Bb3 ~ G#4/A4 at best G#3 ~ Bb4 Nothing has changed much interms of consistency really
@k-idols3763
@k-idols3763 Жыл бұрын
@@byeonggon Karina's lowest supported note is a G3.
@Dimyixx
@Dimyixx Жыл бұрын
NingNing : G3-C5/C#5-Eb5/E5 At best: F#3-Eb5-G5 Winter: A3/Bb3-Bb4/B4 At best: G#3-C5 Karina: A3/Bb3-A4/Bb4 At best: G3-B4 Giselle: A3/Bb3-A4 At best: G#3-Bb4
@Dimyixx
@Dimyixx Жыл бұрын
@@byeonggon I would give NingNing a solid G3 and Winter with B4
@cutiieeepatootieee2002
@cutiieeepatootieee2002 Жыл бұрын
manifesting winter’s supported range to be g#3/a3 - b4/c5 than a3/bb3 - bb4/b4 🤞
@cutiieeepatootieee2002
@cutiieeepatootieee2002 Жыл бұрын
the c5s here are better than the one in fansign
@eternaldandaniexol
@eternaldandaniexol Жыл бұрын
Hoping for Winter's improvement! 🕯️my naevis we love you 🕯️
@d.n.n2267
@d.n.n2267 Жыл бұрын
@Miu Iruma she is a high Average Vocalist maybe road to Low A-A but idk
@davidakbar4876
@davidakbar4876 Жыл бұрын
@Miu Iruma winter isn't high avarage tho she's more mid to high so if she has that maybe she's gonna end up in A-AA with her bolder approach
@cutiieeepatootieee2002
@cutiieeepatootieee2002 Жыл бұрын
@Miu Iruma she would only be high a. if she only uses her bolder approach then a low a-aa is passable but since she can go light which she shows issues with, then high a is the most probable rank. not to mention she also have tendency to go tight
@MrJay822
@MrJay822 Жыл бұрын
Have you considered doing 4th gen vocalists best supported low notes also?
@eternaldandaniexol
@eternaldandaniexol Жыл бұрын
@@Seulgi_bff Monday have an F3 however I think Ning G3s > Monday G3s maybe
@rinactx8170
@rinactx8170 Жыл бұрын
@@Seulgi_bff but ningning's F#3 are actually G3
@hiiuma729
@hiiuma729 Жыл бұрын
@@Seulgi_bff I think we should also add Yechan, she has G3/G#3 with nice tonal quality and fullness. Above Yuqi, on par or slightly above Monday.
@cutiieeepatootieee2002
@cutiieeepatootieee2002 Жыл бұрын
@@rinactx8170 what f#3? she have done a lot of f#3 that carried support
@byeonggon
@byeonggon Жыл бұрын
@@cutiieeepatootieee2002 her F#3 in love on top are j pitchy, it's actually G3
@kwangyabot
@kwangyabot Жыл бұрын
does chaewon (lesserafim) have the potential to join w-a tier?
@user-tw1zv8ki9q
@user-tw1zv8ki9q Жыл бұрын
With HYBE’s vocal training track record probably not unfortunately but some people said she improved since iz*one so who knows
@nurtilekkylshabaev6247
@nurtilekkylshabaev6247 Жыл бұрын
Yeah,she improved after izone(from E- to D)
@SakusaHusband
@SakusaHusband Жыл бұрын
Hello what do you think of wooah Pixy and Tribe And Does Haseul still support
@SakusaHusband
@SakusaHusband Жыл бұрын
@@vintasahi did she show some support at queendom?
@johnkennethsantos9314
@johnkennethsantos9314 Жыл бұрын
4th Gen HV rankings
@cutiieeepatootieee2002
@cutiieeepatootieee2002 Жыл бұрын
lily yunjin haseul haewon yechan ningning monday nayul cmiiw, i just list them without much comparison against one another
@cutiieeepatootieee2002
@cutiieeepatootieee2002 Жыл бұрын
@@Brybeery she’ll probably get lowered as time goes by. but as far as i know, she has yet to use it in pop so i’ll still evaluate it with her operatic moments which i’ll put above what ningning has shown so far
@cutiieeepatootieee2002
@cutiieeepatootieee2002 Жыл бұрын
@@Brybeery yeah, i’m actually thinking of putting yunjin next to lily than haseul
@cutiieeepatootieee2002
@cutiieeepatootieee2002 Жыл бұрын
@Baylon Nikko i haven't heard yunjin used her hv in pop setting yet so i'll use her opera singing for now (same case to haseul) and no, she doesn't sound shallow in her hv
@cutiieeepatootieee2002
@cutiieeepatootieee2002 Жыл бұрын
@Baylon Nikko it still depends on the quality of her mix but she can be mid avg. her mix isn't particularly strong as far as i know and hasn't been showcased that much since re debut so she's pretty much just estimated
@johnkennethsantos9314
@johnkennethsantos9314 Жыл бұрын
Why supported A4 note sound so pleasant to hear.
@divaqueening1940
@divaqueening1940 Жыл бұрын
Bcs its a note that most sopranos and mezzos are comfortable at.
@skyline6242
@skyline6242 Жыл бұрын
if only bae wasn't too into her throat 7/7 of nmixx could have made it 😕
@naviscalling2069
@naviscalling2069 Жыл бұрын
Karina has the best sub vocals in kpop💅🏻
@KittyTsundere
@KittyTsundere Жыл бұрын
Sungjae? Gain?
@thek-nerd3143
@thek-nerd3143 Жыл бұрын
@@KittyTsundere Gain was a sub vocalist???
@KittyTsundere
@KittyTsundere Жыл бұрын
@@thek-nerd3143 Yes. I believe it was Jea as main, Narsha as lead, and Gain as sub.
@naviscalling2069
@naviscalling2069 Жыл бұрын
@@KittyTsundere u missed up, fourth gen, and if u wanna get it as it is then karina is one of the best sub vocalists in the whole kpop industry ( top3 ) alr?
@KittyTsundere
@KittyTsundere Жыл бұрын
@@naviscalling2069 I mean you never said 4th gen in your original comment, and said "kpop" as a whole instead? However, yea I agree she's like Top 3 in KPOP if you think Taemin is a lead vocalist in SHINee for now lol.
@tzuyuchou2575
@tzuyuchou2575 Жыл бұрын
Sullyoon has C5
@plorymoo6769
@plorymoo6769 Жыл бұрын
Haewon ❤
@leeavj9435
@leeavj9435 Жыл бұрын
Firstttt
@Vivi-mi1uw
@Vivi-mi1uw Жыл бұрын
Can Eunbi supported?
@Vivi-mi1uw
@Vivi-mi1uw Жыл бұрын
What supported range of her and KCM singing Nagging by IU
@generalariel6283
@generalariel6283 Жыл бұрын
One question, Miyeon is improving?
Жыл бұрын
more like finally getting recognition for the level she always had pretty much lol i would say the latest Bb4s were somewhat better attempts though
@generalariel6283
@generalariel6283 Жыл бұрын
@ That's awesome, i notice her upper belts are more, i don't know, mixed? Like is not super chesty like is used to be
@KittyTsundere
@KittyTsundere Жыл бұрын
@@generalariel6283 You mean balanced?
@generalariel6283
@generalariel6283 Жыл бұрын
@@KittyTsundere yeah, that's what i want it to say, thank youu
@Max-ly2tj
@Max-ly2tj Жыл бұрын
Does nana or minseo from wooah support?
@Max-ly2tj
@Max-ly2tj Жыл бұрын
And what about mia from everglow?
@k-idols3763
@k-idols3763 Жыл бұрын
@@Max-ly2tj Mia from everglow can support down to B3 and up to G4/G#4 but she's shallow and inconsistent
@duongang4333
@duongang4333 Жыл бұрын
Rooting for wooah
@Hatshe175
@Hatshe175 Жыл бұрын
Minseo can shallowly support, I'd say up to A4 at least, but i'm not too familiar with her. Nana and wooyeon (that was her name?) may have some support, but nana sounds tight most of the time so it's hard to tell, and the other girl is very inconsistent
@t.t296
@t.t296 Жыл бұрын
Sullyoon C5
@aeyoona
@aeyoona Жыл бұрын
what really ??
@ryujinsgreenwig7114
@ryujinsgreenwig7114 Жыл бұрын
whereeee????
@cutiieeepatootieee2002
@cutiieeepatootieee2002 Жыл бұрын
it wasn’t supported, just sounded nice
@kalss7013
@kalss7013 Жыл бұрын
@@ryujinsgreenwig7114 in move your body And weeding singing , that's arguable but to me it sounds passable
@rosesgolden1888
@rosesgolden1888 Жыл бұрын
Somo people say that but i think It's not consistent
@rosesgolden1888
@rosesgolden1888 Жыл бұрын
Can somoene tell what winter vocal type?
@Sylvaincks
@Sylvaincks Жыл бұрын
Probably light lyric soprano
@d.n.n2267
@d.n.n2267 Жыл бұрын
Soprano Obviously! hmmm
@SoulVelvet
@SoulVelvet Жыл бұрын
I think it’s not really relevant for people to use “light lyric soprano”. There’s actually vocal types even lighter than that in opera but in pop context we usually only use low, medium or light soprano. Winter would be a light weight soprano.
@Sylvaincks
@Sylvaincks Жыл бұрын
@@SoulVelvet oh thanks for telling me. I said that because everyone i know use those terms (lyric, coloratura etc.) to describe people's voices.
@viniciusdabel
@viniciusdabel Жыл бұрын
someone can explain to me what is a supported vocal?
@kalamies.
@kalamies. Жыл бұрын
From what I've understood, it's when a singer sings a note relaxed with no tension in the nose or throat that could cause damage to the vocal chords
@viniciusdabel
@viniciusdabel Жыл бұрын
@@kalamies. ok, thaaanks ❤
@breats4703
@breats4703 Жыл бұрын
Wait... Is it Jinni that has better grasp of support or Haeyoon that is regressed? I remember Jinni is weaker than Haeyoon, and you put her above Jinni.
Жыл бұрын
no, i just thought jinni sense of support is more present than haeyoon even when she’s messy in placement and whatnot
@breats4703
@breats4703 Жыл бұрын
@ have you watched Jinni's Let It Go cover?
@monetsdoormat
@monetsdoormat Жыл бұрын
was the Eb5 by haewon kinda chesty?
@vvenuskook4170
@vvenuskook4170 Жыл бұрын
It sounded like it but the audio quality in that video isn’t that great so I think it’s kinda hard to tell
@nomorenoise2374
@nomorenoise2374 Жыл бұрын
@@vvenuskook4170 it was chesty. haewon and jinni’s mic were broken through out the whole performance, unfortunately.
@Fred-bc9ts
@Fred-bc9ts Жыл бұрын
It was, above C5 she has this tendency of sounding more chesty.
@vvenuskook4170
@vvenuskook4170 Жыл бұрын
@@nomorenoise2374 okay I figured it was chesty, I kind of liked it through tbh😂 like she made it sound good
@vity9534
@vity9534 Жыл бұрын
wow Giselle has Bb4? 👀
@Fred-bc9ts
@Fred-bc9ts Жыл бұрын
She sounds so cute
@cutiieeepatootieee2002
@cutiieeepatootieee2002 Жыл бұрын
news flash, she can support down to g#3 too!
@vity9534
@vity9534 Жыл бұрын
@@cutiieeepatootieee2002 oh same as Karina??? this is a news
@cutiieeepatootieee2002
@cutiieeepatootieee2002 Жыл бұрын
@@vity9534 yep yep, here it is kzfaq.info/get/bejne/lc6boppkyLGrqZ8.html 2:48 supported bb4 4:10 4:12 4:16 supported g#3s
@cutiieeepatootieee2002
@cutiieeepatootieee2002 Жыл бұрын
@@vity9534 aespa wouldn’t let go the “best vocal group” title so easily hahaha 😝 æpsa updated supported range (at best) ningning: f#3 - eb5 - f#5 winter: g#3 - c5 karina: g#3 - b4 giselle: g#3 - bb4
@viraycarlo0316
@viraycarlo0316 Жыл бұрын
NMIXX vs. AESPA: 1. Lily (NMIXX) 2. Haewon (NMIXX) 3. Winter (AESPA) 4. Karina (AESPA) 5. Kyujin (NMIXX) 6. Sullyoon (NMIXX) 7. Jinni (NMIXX) 8. Giselle (AESPA) 9. Jiwoo (NMIXX)
@d.n.n2267
@d.n.n2267 Жыл бұрын
ningning!
@imgonnabeastar9630
@imgonnabeastar9630 Жыл бұрын
lily>haewon>ningning>winter>karina>kyujin>giselle>sullyoon>jinni>jiwoo>bae
@imgonnabeastar9630
@imgonnabeastar9630 Жыл бұрын
I think
@d.n.n2267
@d.n.n2267 Жыл бұрын
@@imgonnabeastar9630 now Giselle better than kyujin and rina
@d.n.n2267
@d.n.n2267 Жыл бұрын
@@imgonnabeastar9630 she is more clean projects
@hveamvilov9403
@hveamvilov9403 Жыл бұрын
So, do Sullyoon & Kyujin have better support/technique than Jinni?
@Fred-bc9ts
@Fred-bc9ts Жыл бұрын
Not really, it's hard to tell but Jinni seems to have a more full grasp to her support while kyujin and sullyoon sound more shallow.
@hveamvilov9403
@hveamvilov9403 Жыл бұрын
@@Fred-bc9ts could it be that Jinni has B4 even though it's shallow when she has more material?
@vvenuskook4170
@vvenuskook4170 Жыл бұрын
@@hveamvilov9403 she would have to support B4 consistently.
@hveamvilov9403
@hveamvilov9403 Жыл бұрын
@@vvenuskook4170 whoa, so what she only needs is more materials. Thank you💕
@cutiieeepatootieee2002
@cutiieeepatootieee2002 Жыл бұрын
jinni’s pre debut cover sounds good but she doesn’t seem to be as strong or consistent if we compare those to her new materials but they’re around the same level. jinni suffers the same thing with karina who can also go shallow
@jaehyunsshoe9124
@jaehyunsshoe9124 Жыл бұрын
So surprised to hear how good Jiwoo is, specially when her voice annoys me 😭 (sorry nswers, I love her). I hated her voice during her cover of Breathe, specially the "I can't breathe". She sounded sooo overly nasal
@thek-nerd3143
@thek-nerd3143 Жыл бұрын
That was one of my favorite covers of her, different tastes ig
@davidakbar4876
@davidakbar4876 Жыл бұрын
Don't worry as an nwers i can get annoys by bae voice tho lol
@davidakbar4876
@davidakbar4876 Жыл бұрын
@@chenpop1303 there's no way i'm not an nswer lmao i litterally hardcore jypestan 😭😭😭
@Hatshe175
@Hatshe175 Жыл бұрын
Her voice always sounds weird, sometimes weird in a good way, sometimes weird in a bad way, but there's always a degree of weirdness. I think everyone will get used to it after sometime
@mariahlol2488
@mariahlol2488 Жыл бұрын
@@Hatshe175 her voice is raspy
@byeonggon
@byeonggon Жыл бұрын
Where did ningning Eb5 go???😭
@cutiieeepatootieee2002
@cutiieeepatootieee2002 Жыл бұрын
it got copyrighted..
@RICK-jj2op
@RICK-jj2op Жыл бұрын
Jo Yuri?
Жыл бұрын
is on the first ver :)
@ivy2267
@ivy2267 Жыл бұрын
Jinni has a supported B4 as well!
@byeonggon
@byeonggon Жыл бұрын
Can you provide a link for that?
@ivy2267
@ivy2267 Жыл бұрын
@@byeonggon they marked it as a bb4 but pretty sure thats a B4, but its also in the same cover
@byeonggon
@byeonggon Жыл бұрын
@@ivy2267 Then I don't think it is supported if they didn't highlight it
@ivy2267
@ivy2267 Жыл бұрын
@@byeonggon its supported i promise you lol
@byeonggon
@byeonggon Жыл бұрын
@@ivy2267 I'm assuming it's the mama cover right, can you give a timestamp?
@lifestooshort1620
@lifestooshort1620 Жыл бұрын
Why is nn and haewon in different tiers? They are pretty much the same You kinda overrating haewon
@days3164
@days3164 Жыл бұрын
they are not the same what
@rinactx8170
@rinactx8170 Жыл бұрын
they're not. haewon approach is way more chesty than ningning (when she chooses do so)
@Fred-bc9ts
@Fred-bc9ts Жыл бұрын
@@rinactx8170 that's not the reason haewon is better lmao
@Fred-bc9ts
@Fred-bc9ts Жыл бұрын
@@mixxtopia4930 their headvoice is quite alike, very ocassionaly supported. But Haewon does take the cake in mix register, her belts, coordination and agility are better. But nn has shown more her lower register, If im not wrong.
@rinactx8170
@rinactx8170 Жыл бұрын
@@Fred-bc9ts is one of the reason. quality of support and intonation too
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