Now if only legacy media can be held liable for every bullshit story they lied about

Honestly, that was good for Fox. Proving malice is a lot harder then proving someone lied. Yes. Their claims were verifiably false. If Fox could prove that they were legitimate, they would have done so one of the numerous times they tried to get this dismissed. Even just proving they didn’t lie maliciously was as simple as showing enough evidence that they could reasonably believe they were telling the truth, but they instead decided to settle. Hell, released text messaged showed that the anchors didn’t believe the election was stolen which totally destroyed their case.

Sure, that's the case, I mean fox also gets the weather wrong at times. The point of the statement was to remind the jury that just because fox News was wrong doesn't mean they lied. This is pretty standard stuff, and the reason they settled has more to do with the spotlight rather than the authenticity of fox News. Most business will give you a lot of money to avoid going to court.

​@@AgentS1285 its a forecast(estimated/educated guess) its not always going to be true this is different

​@@AgentS1285 they would not have settled for so much if they thought they could win the case. While it could be human error, a continued repetition of known false information to discredit a company is defamation

Ahhh, the WWE defense

lmao, whoever made that statement has never met an average fox News viewer!

We forget a part of their settlement means they have to put the NEWS of their nams in " " marks 😂😂

Evidence for the plaintiff: Jan 6

@@loganlopez1617well at least the e there stands for entertainment

“Dear god! Who could have seen this coming?!”

They lie the least out of all news stations though

@@simonunella6330that is completely wrong 💀

​@@simonunella6330 nah. Lots of lies to go around sure but no fox is not the best one.

@@simonunella6330 me when I’m wrong

Wouldn't make a difference, the majority of people watching Fox don't, not can't, don't read by choice. That's why clowns like Carlson spoon fed the entire story, down to telling people how to feel.

Exactly.

Literally all news agencies

​@@davidhorst9203News Nation is a really good one, because they have no bias like Fox or CNN. Shame that DIRECTV took them off

​@@davidhorst9203well the 7 major ones who are all owned by the same guy sure.

You think that's a shock? Elon Musk dropped $44 billion just to burn Twitter to the ground. Rich people.

@@rockehorror that’s fair. Elon is an idiot who conned his way to that money though, although thinking about it that’s not too dissimilar to modern news orgs

@@rockehorror boring.....it gave us free.... speech and not liberal Facebook

​@@eldadmastermind9356There were already plenty of Republican ran social media companies that don't ban people...

​@@itsSw1m yup, and elon musk vreated another one by buying twitter. Because all of the other republican social medias were very small and not popular. And most people only use social medias that are established and popular. So they complained that it was difficult or nearly impossible to spread their beliefs publicly on a wide scale - especially during the pandemic when everything was locked down, you could not go to a town hall or bar, or club or park or church or really anywhere to talk about your beliefs and the upcoming election, the only places you could talk about your beliefs to a large audience were on the social media platforms that were already cemented in the culture like Twitter, Facebook, Instagram etc. When republicans conplained about this, they were told "build your own social media platform" and they DID......then they were removed off both the Apple and Android app stores, then the servers and networks they were on shutdown andnthey were told "build your own internet servers and networks if you want to have your own social media" and "go build your own app store, buikd your own phones, build your own OS etc". Which was a lot of work, so Elon just bought twitter instead, so that way he could create a conservative-inclusive social media network without actually having to "build your own app, build your own servers and networks, build your own app store, build your own OS, build your own phones etc.".

No, no. That's a 1/3rd of their yearly gross. Not profit, *gross.* It isn't a coincidence that Cucker Turdson got axed almost immediately after.

I dont think you understand how impactful 2.7 billion is for any new company

​@@poorlydrawngouf4281Do you think Fox is a new company?

@@incognitoburrito6020 He’s talking about the company getting the money, dummy

@@incognitoburrito6020 you missed the mark regardless

If that happens, then I am pretty sure no one would vote for either of the political parties which I am all for. But uh, the parties wouldn’t want to TELL THE TRUTH, definetly not no. (They should but they won’t)

Blame Bill Clinton and the FCC for deregulating news media

​@@Scuba_Tim88 If we did that, it would be an incovenience for most networks. But it would put Fox out of business. No major news network lies as often and as much as they does (which is why Fox is the only one who regularly gets sued for it).

@@poncho3326 sounds like you have a bias if you think one is worse than the other

@@Scuba_Tim88 Reality has a bias. Fox is objectively worse than others, when it comes to lies. The others might be biased in their reporting and in their choice of subjects to cover, but rarely do they blatently lie like Fox routinely does. If I'm biased, so are the jugdes who have condemned Fox times and times again. Curious how there are almost no lawsuit of that kind targeting the other networks, right ? Don't try to be neutral, try to be objective.

57th saddest day in US History

@@eigengrau_rn3657no he didn’t get a promotion, he got fired.

​@@WesfkgkejeifnrNo, he got taken iff air. He is under contract. They did the same thing to Jesse. They took him off of air and paid him millions for about five years.

What a fun fact to make up!

He was definitely fired for costing the company almost a cool billion. Now he can fade to irrelevance like Shill O Reilly.

It's too bad that you're a minority

Same, I feel that way about every news agency other than الجزيرة

It's sad that all the big names like CNN, MNSBC, etc. are all becoming fox news. I can't help but cringe at what makes the front page just because it has "opinion" attached to it these days.

@@fastestdino2 they always have been

​@@DrLifeGamerAl-Jazeera is very biased aswell...

That is why I rely on KZfaq for my news not the biased whores of Main Stream Media.

bias is absolutely fine as long as you admit to it, lying is where it goes from news to entarteinment.

Before tucker got fired, he was called entertainment in court a few years ago lol

Neutrality is no objectivity. News should be as objective as possible

​@Slaughta Ya mama AP news

yep. I'm getting certified on this now... not even joking

I think the point is you can say whatever you want in support of freedom of speech. But you better have facts to back it up

We know they do. Russia got sanctioned for their election interference in the 2016 election, China has tried to varying success. I'm curious why the U.S. HASN'T been sanctioned for theirs honestly

I mean Russia holds huge sway through the alt-right

@@tyoung9012 you can say whatever you want about THE GOVERNMENT. That’s what the first amendment protects. To my knowledge the extent of this is essentially up to but not including causing rebellion (aka treason). So you can make false claims about the us government, so long as you aren’t saying to kill the president or something. (A caveat here is this could be restricted in times or war or if the information being shared is a risk to national security). The first amendment says NOTHING about what you can say about another private entity though. The first amendment doesn’t protect your ability to say bad things about another private entity, true or not, to any capacity. Other laws do protect you there depending on the circumstance, but that is not the first amendment. The first amendment does also protect you from states in a similar way it protects you from the federal government, as a result of one of the clauses in the 14th amendment. But the first amendment has zero bearing on one private entity saying something about another. Fox News vs dominion? The first amendment protects nothing in that interaction. All the first amendment essentially does is protect private entities from being sued by the federal (or state) government for defamation or libel. In terms of free speech that’s the extent of it (obviously it protects peoples freedom of expression in religious and other things in addition, but again, that’s only from the federal government. You are never protected from another private entity by the first amendment, though you’re often protected in similar ways by other laws)

Almost every president has taken classified documents when they leave office. But this is ironic

@@burneronthenetwork736 He's not going to be convicted of a felony for taking classified items from the oval office. He's going to be convicted for lying about them, refusing to give them back, obstructing the process of returning them, and sharing classified info with people who do not have the clearance view them. Haven't you read the indictment?

@@007diego2 He's not going to be convicted though. If they do they would have to convict hunter biden for 1. Embezzlement 2. Possession of a firearm by someone who isn't allowed 3. Tax evasion 4. And everything on FD-1023

​@@007diego2 Because the DoJ has zero history of lying to frame Trump...ever....

@@burneronthenetwork736he wasn’t in office though so his statement is kinda true

The right to voice opinions is going to be a hard one seeing the current state of the US

@@abhi5504 Yeah, have you seen how Florida is treating teachers and member of the LGBTQ community? Its insane.

​@@abhi5504 That's why you have to at least do it! If you don't want to fight for your rights, go to North Korea.

Damn straight!

You have the right to speak any opinion. Just as people have the right to sue you for defamation if that opinion is about them. Freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences of making shit up.

lmfao.

Hopefully they saw Fox's cop out apology to Dominion and at LEAST require something more substantial like "say these exact words and run it on this exact airtime"

And we get to see Rupert Murdock's orders to favor 45.

Yet he was the one that actually opposed most of the Dominion points. It was Hannity and other talking heads carrying water for it.

Yeah mad to pay him $ 30 million dollars😮 can you start off with a hundred million dollars this week😊 oh no what will he do😮 Had

@Charlie Costella you do realize he doesn't have fox's lawyers to protect him anymore his career is basically over and his ass will never be on TV again

And hes doing fine and still making million. Ha

The other voting machine company that is suing them for the same thing.

The find out phase for fox 😂

Smartmatic

Smartmatic are the ones that make the machines if memory serves me right.

I’m surprised others didn’t die considering are era of news channels. Bias will be found everywhere, I cannot trust anything these days. Not a single one of them has it. But Fox is like yell, be angry, the world is going to end. But that last part is every news channel. Can we have a little bit of positivity? It exists.

Mind proving that? I’m not calling you a liar, I’m just very curious about the source of that info.

They aren't though. Blackrock seems to be the only group with shares in both, but it owns less then 15% of either.

​@@nicodemusedwards6931 they have similar investors. But the suit proves fox lied, so it does matter.

Who do you think owns black rock?? Vanguard does its a hole big web with Vanguard group owning pretty much majority stock in most international companies.

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jbF_pNuJmrqVd4k.html

For what specifically?

@@hunterblane610 he doesn’t know

@@hunterblane610 Kyle Rittenhouse, Jan 6. The most recent shooting in Texas where it has to be a neo nazi, oh wait, he's muslim

For? Don't leave us hanging.

What for specifically?

I completely forgot about cnn+

Thats because no one likes CNN plus not cuz they got sued for pushing a conspiracy lol

Completely different scenario. They weren’t sued for lying they just made no money cause they were boring

@@ravenblood1954 more than just that, there is hardly a single human being who wants to pay for news anymore. If the news wasn’t part of basic cable and was an additional add on you had to pay for, I have no doubt all channels would be among the lowest watched on all of television

The twitter files that Elon removed from Twitter because Matt Taibbi embarrassed him?

The files that showed Biden trying to get his son's d*ck picks taken down?

What twitter files? What were they saying?

That Biden requested Twitter take down unauthorized pornographic images of his son? A shocking abuse of power.😂

The files that were a nothing burger?

Ya but they and other news networks will never admit that. Hell they won’t admit when they lied about Kyle Rittenhouse. Kyle wasn’t a hero, but he also wasn’t a villain

@@Scuba_Tim88 Kyle armed himself and traveled from out of state intentionally into an area of unrest, and actively sought after a situation in which he would kill someone. Kids a psycho no matter how you put it. Would be a completely different situation to me if the riots were taking place in his own community. He sought out trouble where he had no reason being in the first place

@@frtjnrbs545 he worked in Kenosha, the rifle was already in Kenosha he did not travel with it, and saying to say he sought out the situation is ridiculous. If you work in a community like that yes it becomes your community especially since that’s where his father was from since his mom and dad were not together.

@@Scuba_Tim88 He was not working in Kenosha at the time of the riots, yet still traveled to Kenosha and stayed at a friends house. Yes his father lived there but he did not live with his father, and did not stay with his father while he was there. He had no reason at the time to be in Kenosha and was not in Kenosha prior to the riots but traveled to Kenosha when the riots broke out. So yes, it is completely reasonable to me to say he sought out the situation. He was not in and had no reason to be in Kenosha, riots broke out and he traveled to Kenosha. He traveled to Kenosha because there were riots. He sought out that situation and put himself in it. And yes, the rifle that was purchased for Kyle, because he could not legally purchase one, by the same friend who’s house he traveled to at the time of the riots, which he sought out. The rifle that was bought as a gift for when Kyle would be old enough (because some how you wouldn’t be able to buy him one once he was of age) and kept in an unsecured location out in the open of that friends basement.

@@frtjnrbs545his dad was from Kenosha so you proved your point false. Also saying he had no businesses at the riot, does the same apply to the rioters. Fact is he was openly assaulted in the streets by armed criminals and was objectively self defense.

They won't, like they threaten to charge trump for taking documents but biden did and they won't for him

Why? CNN and the post didn’t push the election was stolen for months and have crazy people on saying that voting machines were rigged. Mainly Fox News and other right wing media 😂

Stay triggered

@mmmd3429 why, shouldn't we treat them the same or you getting your panties in a twist.

What have they lied about?

When they knowingly and maliciously push false information, sure.

@@MadkingLeviticus like Joe Rogan taking horse dewormer or were you talking about Russian collusion ? Which has been proven was actually Hillary and the dnc oh wait you don’t want to talk about that right

​@@MadkingLeviticus Also them after editing Joe Rogan footage.💀

​@@MadkingLeviticus what rock have you been living under?

@@MadkingLeviticus ye ik thats why I said we should do it now

After Fox lies about them, then yeah.

Getting a story wrong is incredibly different then actively and knowingly lying about a company and a federal election for a damn month.

@@josephfriendy1747 how about biden’s comments about Kyle rittenhouse?

​@@josephfriendy1747they did lie about the kid. Worse he got kicked out of school for it fucking his education up

@@josephfriendy1747 do you know what defamation is?

@@josephfriendy1747 they didn’t apologize or anything when new evidence came out, so it was defemation.

That is defamation which is pushing claims that you know are not true. Free speach only protects the gov from censoring citizens from views it didn't like but lying about a company costs them time and money that they will never get back, hence the lawsuit

It's not "saying things I don't like" it's "spreading false information (possibly knowing it was false) that cost a private company its reputation and being held liable for billions of dollars in lost opportunities". If it was your business tell me you'd take that sitting down. The case wasn't even going to be about what Fox said, it was going to be about whether or not they knew they were lying. And it's stupidly hard to prove knowing intent to a court's standards, so if Fox had any confidence at all in their sources they would have won

Its not about not liking them, its about the claims be demonstrably false and Fox knew it. All Fox had to do was show enough evidence that they could legitimately believe the claims, but they didn't even have that much.

Conservatives are so concerned with criminals being brought to rightful justice until they justice is applied to one of their own.

@@PrincessNinja007 so what? They inaccurately reported the news and funny they had to pay for defamation when other “news”organizations pay nothing when they have been disingenuous in reporting Trump keeping up with the Russia story for 4 years?! Like wtf? They keep saying how are country’s everything was worse when Trump was in office when it was the exact opposite. They also keep misrepresenting what he was trying to convey to the people with so many out of context clips. You people have no integrity if you believe this wasn’t a line gone too far. But apparently Fox saying “weird how there are dead people voting too” is crossing the line.

And you're basing that on...

​​@@hunterblane610 my source is I made it up

Which is why we are encouraging you all to refrain from voting. It's for your safety really. Such decisions cannot be entrusted to people dumb enough to be manipulated into believing that hospitals are scary death camps. To be happier, just donate everything you have to a known grifter. Candice Owens is better off with your money than you are.

Hé had to admit in court at least right?

So glad honest MSNBC is there to protect the truth.

@@CobisTaba the company did. The actions of certain individuals would have been revealed during trial. Who exactly was pushing for those claims.

and its not true. that was the crux of the lawsuit. fox wouldnt have settled if they were innocent.

​@Ben Sput innocent people settle all the time to avoid bad publicity. Especially when you know the jury is cooked and there is 0 chance of a fair trial. You can pick a jury from a pool of liberals who dislike you and hope for a fair trial lmao. That's ignorant. Fact is there were videos of the machines switching votes and as a matter of fact almost 20,000 votes in some places in Michigan. They argued "oh its human error" which we all know was a line of crap.

Why did they settle out out of court. Innocent people don't have anything to hide.

@@ashtray1647 Depends on who gets to decide who is innocent or not. People said the same thing during the red scare.

@@smokedbeefandcheese4144 if you were actually innocent you would want to prove it and not pay hundreds of millions to get everyone to stop talking about it.

Which states??? Which states???? Name ONE

That's because there weren't.

Which state specifically are you referring to?

​@@gavintantleff Wyoming, Arizona, New Mexico

​@@Rebelgamer-1111 Congratulations on listing random states with no other context. Conservative logic does not exist.

Sounding evil is relative to the person who hears it. ‘Demonstrate’ could sound evil to someone. It’s all based on the individual

Why?

@@hunterblane610 why what?

​@@adamace25 I'm asking why Dominion sounds evil.

@@hunterblane610 it doesn’t. How something sounds is relative to the individual person. You think it sounds evil for some reason. Why is that?

One was about an awkward encounter caught on tape. The other was about lying about the godd*amn presidential election which led to a seditious riot at the Capitol with multiple felony arrests and sedition charges and one attacker dead. You're compare apples to maggots lol.

Sure,on what charge?

Doesn't sound like Fox got out of it.

@@forrestsory1893 Yea but how much of this is accurate and there could be ulterior motives

@@anthonyswedyk9832 it might have boiled down to who had the bigger lawyer budget. And who wants to win the most. I'm sure there is investors involved on both sides that don't wanna be exposed. I understand the Clinton's have money in that company. Settlement is a win for all. Fox doesn't have to prove anything. And cockroaches stay hidden.

​@anthonyswedyk9832 what do you mean? Fox settled for 700ish million. They didn't want it to go to court to try to keep other things hidden and dominion is a smaller company and didn't want to fight appeals for the next few years.

They settled for 800m and acknowledged their lies…

"feel", but yet they did lie

They admitted to lying. Facts don't care about your feelings

It is though. What do you find inaccurate about it?

Idk man I’ve never heard of this could give me a source or something?

R-Card?

Mfs care so much about their party and not the people behind the party that weve come up with R and D card bruh...lets go with "who cares what party it is and if theyre competent or not" card?

Even news networks like AP news, or hell even your local news paper?

I am pretty sure one American news network and another right wing network have suits still pending right now

Ok.. For what?

lol cry harder

I know, we should really do something about people like Tucker or Alex Jones.

@@15Monkes no we should do something about the ones who design boogey men for mouth breathing sheep to be afraid of and encourage our freedoms to be stripped away. You know like a Latino male who is a somehow labeled a Nazi. Or a middle eastern man ramming a barricade at the White House being labeled a Nazi. Or the ones that are targeting our food supply and energy sector all over the country. If you think Tucker Carlson or Alex Jones are the Boogeyman in this equation you’re a damn fool.

who cares about the truth, amirite

It's almost like electronic voting is a bad system that no sane government should use

Source?

You literally just made that up and added a page number to make it seem legit

must be nice to make things up and not provide proof that way your always right

Truth hurts, huh

based

​@@Iyentra considering the Washington post has a mile long rap sheet of purposely lying your comment is the dumbest thing here.

Washington Compost.

​@@Iyentra propaganda hurts. 's why I don't listen to Fox as gospel either.

We absolutely will as there hasnt been any evidence of tampering from any election from their machines. But if you want the goverment to allow easily tampered devices thats all on you. The smart Texans will use these macines.

Too late 🥰

😂😂😂

@@azumarillmain nope, hasn't since before 2016

Lol okay boomer