Fox's X-Men Trilogy: The Birth of the Modern Superhero Movie?

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3 ай бұрын

20th Century Fox’s X-Men trilogy is arguably responsible for the modern wave of superhero movies. Bryan Singer’s original film proved that there was a valuable audience for movies that took their comic book source material seriously, and the sequel, X2: X-Men United, is still considered a benchmark in the genre. However, the trilogy went badly awry with X-Men: The Last Stand. In this video, we examine the highs and lows of a controversial but influential trilogy.
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@twall91 2 ай бұрын

Somebody should tell them Michael Graves and Glenn Danzig are two different people 😂

@Zombiesnyder13 3 ай бұрын

RIP Michael Kamen He made Logan and Rogue's moment feel so special and timeless

@kentown8115 3 ай бұрын

The best way to summon up though, is the x men franchise is a few good movies with sequels that cater to what they sank what people enjoyed the most in the movies that were hitch, and they lean on that, and they fuck it up. For instance, everyone loved first class. They assumed everyone loved Jennifer Lawrence and James mcgavoy and Magneto's tension with each other in this and that which is what we did love, but they made mistake. The main reason why the sentinels had their powers and cut rogue out of the fucking movie. Because of course, rogue wasn't as popular as mistake in the cinema world even though rogue. Is one of the most popular characters next to misty. But whatever and then, with axman Apocalypse, they made mistake a fucking hero again because there's capitalizing on Jennifer Lawrence and capitalizing on her success from the last 2X men, films and then X men Apocalypse suffered because our villain was shit. Quicksilver was the only highlight like and then they fucked up dark Phoenix and leaned on. Gene underdeveloped gene. I might add with a underdeveloped sky. That was only in Apocalypse, because they're trying to jump to the most popular things. Just like when last stand look at X men, one, the thing people loved the most was rover green. Okay, and then next week they leaned more on rover ring by having striker and the island and showing few more things about rover green's past, they leaned more on rover reign, they leaned towards gene shit, but not enough in Scott didn't get barely anything in that film. A gene is one of the main things in the film that they show at the beginning at the museum when they're talking about the island and how jeans been different, but then they go more towards Wolverine and striker and all that shit and I get it X2 is amazing. But they went with what they thought the fans wanted because they thought people wanted more robbery so instead of making an actual axman film. I aint had a robbery film that has the exponent in it. And then last stand once again. Who ends up being the one that stops cheating? Rover, who goes out and looks for Scott with storm rover green? Who goes out and looks for Jean rover? Who leads the x men at the end of the film? Roverine, who gets the most action in the movie rovarine? You see a pattern here. Because rove marine became the face of the movie franchise the movie suffered. I love you Jackman, but let's face it. The reason why x men have failed more than it's been successful is because fox tucks their nuts in the wrong direction and places them on the forehead of the person. They think is gonna lead the franchise and they stick with that person instead of making an actual ensemble x men movie. They make the movie about a couple main characters. And everyone else's a side character. Quicksilver was a highlight and date. To future pass, but he's just a side character, he's not important even in Apocalypse, he's more important but you know, he was one of the best parts of day's future pass. He was one of the best parts of Apocalypse you get when I'm seeing another pattern and quicksilver was a highlight next Monday's future press so they redid his scene in apocblimps, just like rover green was a hit with his second film the rover reign and he was a hit and days of future pass they. Can't be old, I'm an Apocalypse, even though he's not. It's supposed to be in it yet and they had him do a weapon. Asking again they couldn't make a rover ring my bad and extra. The movie without rover ring the pathe pattern tells the truth

@mangaloveranix8412 Ай бұрын

@@kentown8115yeesh, this was around the time movies based on comics were made for mostly summertime. At least, I agree with that. Those movies were for those who didn't mainly read comics unlike now.🙄 Don't forget, Avi is the main enemy here for putting too much stuff in superhero movies. #IBlameAviArad

@Zombiesnyder13 3 ай бұрын

AVI ARAD worked on the first movies as executive producer But for THE LAST STAND, he decided to step in as the main producer That's why we got a movie done by a director with no passion and a limited story overstuffed with characters, just so he could sell more toys

@user-be7tc2bd6e 3 ай бұрын

In order to tell the phoenix Saga properly,I think a NICELY budgeted streaming series would do this beloved storyline justice. Say 7/8 stories or how many would be needed . Just my 2 cents.

@E15Waheed 3 ай бұрын

What about Blade? (1998)

@marlonclark-pp9wg 3 ай бұрын

yeah

@NadeemShekh-uy9zn 3 ай бұрын

Thats not really a superhero film its a rated R vampire action film

@simplysteve68 3 ай бұрын

It's based off of the Marvel comics character, before they added him to the Midnight Sons roster, along with Ghost Rider and the Darkhold, and it had 2 sequels, so I don't see how it wouldn't be marked as the first in the modern era! 🤷

@marlonclark-pp9wg 3 ай бұрын

@@NadeemShekh-uy9zn still a marvel comics property

@fookinaye8277 2 ай бұрын

Spawn 1997

@michaeljaymarshall 3 ай бұрын

Magneto was the first mutant seen in the original X-Men

@platinumpagoda3079 3 ай бұрын

Man, it's literally like Joeblo knows exactly what I want to watch on any given day.

@cultovvinland188 2 ай бұрын

I love how they showed Michael graves instead of danzig 😂

@keithwierz1 3 ай бұрын

You showed like 2 seconds of Danzig and most of the shots were Michael Graves not danzig

@batboy9997 3 ай бұрын

We did see Magneto before Rogue... Anyway, Danzig would have kicked ass

@philminkeesickquayash8988 3 ай бұрын

It took me a couple of watches to get used to Hugh Jackman, and Anna Paquin... Wolverine being tall, and Rogue not having a southern took me time to adjust...

@michaelbuczek1767 2 ай бұрын

X-Men was my childhood being in middle school when the first came out. They hold a special place to my heart, I only wish they gave Cyclops more of a role that he deserved as the team leader.

@johnnygonzalezjr443 3 ай бұрын

It was matrix reloaded that knocked x2 out of first place not shrek 2 .

@Fuuntag 3 ай бұрын

*No* just like Blade Trinity they face-planted right before the finish line. 👍🏻

@mjwbulich 3 ай бұрын

It all starts with Superman(1978). Then Batman(1989) was a monster. Multiple successful sequels and a mountain of money in merchandise. Blade follows but it's not a recognizable IP unless you're a comic book nerd. The films are more traditional 90s action movies with a supernatural twist than superhero films. It's also rated R so no kiddos. The X- Men really brings it all together. Well know IP. Traditional masked heroes with superpowers fighting traditional bad guys. Kids can see the film so the action figures and tshirts are flying off the shelves. X-Men and then a couple years later Spiderman are really what kick off the MCU. Marvel didn't get Iron Man off the ground on the strength of Blade.

@felixcortez7604 3 ай бұрын

Superman with Christopher Reeve was the first one

@benkalem 3 ай бұрын

It wasn't really modern, though. Blade takes the title as the 1st Modern Superhero Movie.

@randallrutherford1384 Ай бұрын

I adore the original X-men trilogy!!!! Think about this trilogy coming out before and alongside the Raimi Spider-Man trilogy!

@zenquantum1246 3 ай бұрын

The best way I’ve heard to watch a trilogy of the original X-Men movies is: 1. X-Men 2. X2: X-Men United 3. X-Men: Days of Futures Past There are (almost) no continuity issues this way and it’s much more satisfying

@NadeemShekh-uy9zn 3 ай бұрын

I love the X-Men comics, movies and shows

@randomrangoon5476 3 ай бұрын

Something bad happened when it came to the 3rd instalment. A solid two movie Phoenix saga would've been great and I'm sure it would've done much better

@averybryant6997 2 ай бұрын

there was always this fuss about getting Singer back to properly direct the rest of these movies, but it seemed to always get passed off to anyone who cared enough not to walk away from the project. sadly we would get the last movie a total flame out..a shame really.

@DeviantManRules 2 ай бұрын

The ONLY positive thing about Brett RATner as a filmmaker is his love of film scores. John Powell’s contribution to THE LAST STAND was extraordinary. I’d rewatch the film just to hear the score punctuate the film’s action set pieces.

@NeonPlanes 2 ай бұрын

Imagine how Wolverine must have felt waking up in another strange lab with someone sticking a needle in his arm. Must have had mad PTSD flashbacks

@molasorrosalom4846 3 ай бұрын

I think that honor goes to Blade.

@NadeemShekh-uy9zn 3 ай бұрын

Not really blade isn't really a superhero film its more a vampire action film

@Fuuntag 3 ай бұрын

God that was horrible wasn’t it. No wonder people don’t like to think black superheroes existed before Black Panther. Well, this and Catwoman.

@molasorrosalom4846 3 ай бұрын

Bro, Marvel movies were seen as a joke, in the 80s and 90s, and even the Batman movies post Tim Burton were a laughing stock. The studios didn't even faith in the Blade movie, and everyone was blown away when it came out, it reinvigorated the Superhero genre. It gave us a return to Batman being dark and gritty again. Spiderman came out after Blade as well.

@elishawilson5342 3 ай бұрын

@@NadeemShekh-uy9zn it is a superhero movie people just didn't know it was

@sim4344 3 ай бұрын

@@elishawilson5342 Right. Which is the point. Blade wasn't marketed as a superhero movie. Wasn't even marketed as a comic book movie. Blade isn't even really a "superhero" the way that the X-Men, Spider-Man, Avengers, Superman, Batman, etc etc are. So people weren't going to see a "superhero" movie, they were going to see a dark action adventure movie starring Wesley Snipes at point in his career when Wesley Snipes was still a box office draw. So... Blade was a comic book movie, and a successful one, staring a Marvel comic character, who nobody except comic fans knew was a Marvel comic character, because knowing that kind of thing hadn't spread into mainstream popular culture yet. But X-Men was already in the works when Blade came out, and Sony picked up the rights to Spider-man right around that time. Not because of Blade's success, but because that was when the rights were finally available after a long legal clusterf**k. Seriously, the only reason the MCU exists is because Sony didn't want the rest of the Marvel characters. Marvel was trying to sell the rights for practically nothing, but Sony only wanted Spider-man and his supporting cast. You'd think that if "Blade showed that superhero movies can be successful!" was the lesson... well, if Blade can work, ANYTHING can work. So they should've been chomping at the bit for Cap and Iron Man and so on. But that's not how it actually went. They wanted to make Spider-man for the same reason Fox was trying to make X-Men: they were already very popular properties with fan bases, and had quite recently had very successful cartoons and toylines. So. I'd argue that Blade did technically get released first, and it is a good movie, but most of the evidence indicates that while successful, Blade didn't have much to do with what followed. That stuff was coming one way or the other and and it's much easier to draw a line from X-Men to The Avengers than it is from Blade.

@Jeffk750 2 ай бұрын

The background music.. painful. No music or sound is fine..

@christophersandidge8257 3 ай бұрын

I don't get the hatred for Rogue wanting to be able to shake hands or hug or kiss, or (God forbid) have sex with someone without killing them. To me, it's totally (sentient being, instead of human?). OH, well. I'm probably focusing on one aspect of an argument and not another. I'm good at that.

@StuntmanDanHemi 2 ай бұрын

For all the comments crediting Blade, i would agree, but truth is the industry took a turning point until the first X Men. This happens in music and movies all the time, someone does it first, but it doesn't make a boom and true change until someone does it second. Kinda like that kid in school who repeats your joke after no one could hear it, now everyone laughs and he gets all the credit

@lobsterwhisperer7932 3 ай бұрын

I love the X-Men trilogy even more so than Avengers which gives me a headache..I'm getting old, yes.

@CorbinLeonard-rp4et 3 ай бұрын

I wish in the first movie had them wereing black and yellow suits

@Xcutioner220 2 ай бұрын

I miss that era of comic book movies especially compared to now. I love the female tight leather suit very good to look at.

@divinedelaware7541 3 ай бұрын

Danzig as wolverine. That woulda been something. And captain Picard was professor x soon as he was seen by anyone

@LukeLovesRose 11 күн бұрын

Yep. And everyone wants to trash these groundbreaking movies every chance they get... even when its the most timeless, perfectly crafted superhero movie ever made like Days of Future Past or the most raw and real superhero movie in Logan.

@LeonardoKlotz 3 ай бұрын

Back when less was more Now that Disney got the X-Men, everything will be overblown with CGI, and memes

@LukeLovesRose 11 күн бұрын

My question is will people ever look at these movies objectively as movies?? Are they always going to be put under the same narrow, overly sensitive microscope as Batman Forever, and Foxs Daredevil and Fantasic Four?? I think these movies deserve better than whats coming. Fan boys are already treating them like the unwanted and forgotten cousin. After Marvel puts out their X-Men, these movies could be torn to pieces even more

@marcgodley3064 3 ай бұрын

Man I wonder what an X-Men movie would’ve looked like if it came out back in the 80s? 😭

@rogerp.4375 3 ай бұрын

"Elliot" Page... 😂

@mangaloveranix8412 Ай бұрын

Michael Jackson wanted to own Marvel at that time-4:47.😂 I won't take him seriously for that.

@damaniqphillip2756 3 ай бұрын

Wow

@doomguyplays 2 ай бұрын

42:19 *Ellen Page

@schitflowsdwnhil Ай бұрын

Glad it's not just me who caught that

@Crimson28 3 ай бұрын

Blade gave birth to the modern superhero movie

@marlonclark-pp9wg 3 ай бұрын

yeah

@carlredbird3054 3 ай бұрын

Rebecca Romijn in a bikini dipped in blu paint will beat cgi for all time

@NSzymszym 2 ай бұрын

Sabretooth in X-Men was not intimidating, he was super lame, absolutely ridiculous. Even when I first watched it back in the day he completely took me out of the movie.

@barney7822 3 ай бұрын

For better or for worse, I will always prefer Fox's X-Men over the MCU Because even the bad ones can be good on their own, and can offer something the MCU cannot offer

@marlonclark-pp9wg 3 ай бұрын

whatever

@simplysteve68 3 ай бұрын

Lol all 9 (including X-Men Origin: Wolverine) of the X-Men movies were FOX, no MCU X-MEN has been made yet. 🤷

@richardbaker183 3 ай бұрын

There is no "trilogy". Last Stand is unwatchable dreck.

@Zombiesnyder13 3 ай бұрын

#IBlameAviArad

@mohdamerulaidilbinrazisahm7317 3 ай бұрын

@@Zombiesnyder13nah, blame Tom Rothman

@tomlichnofsky.7048 3 ай бұрын

X Men 1 - 2 And Day's Of Future past Are My Favorite. 👍😊👌 Didn't Like 3 The Third One 😔😒😔 And Ofcouse Logan Witch is Awesome! ✊😆👊🍁♈🍁

@schitflowsdwnhil Ай бұрын

I'd forgotten how great Ellen Page looked back then

@rodneycooperjr3223 3 ай бұрын

I know JoBlo mostly does movies and TV, but I wonder if they could do sports. I say that only because I was looking for some sports content to watch and/or listen to 🤔

@vdubthefoxx6808 3 ай бұрын

I know I’m alone on this, but I liked X-Men: The Last Stand 🫣

@rogerp.4375 3 ай бұрын

Funny, I thought the X-Men stories were about accepting yourself as you are, not DEI. But then again, I'm not a woke snowflake either.

@blade8989 3 ай бұрын

Kdjd

@somedude8548 2 ай бұрын

Danzig > Michael Graves

@haydarthiab6410 3 ай бұрын

Loved the comics. But the movies …meh!

@sim4344 3 ай бұрын

I mostly really like the video. But it's odd that you start off by saying, as many people incorrectly believe, that X-Men getting made had something to do with Blade's success. Then as the video goes on, you don't really get too far into the behind the scenes stuff (which would've been more interesting than simply kind of recapping the movies), but you do vaguely touch on the movie's production timeline. Which has nothing to do with Blade. They were working on getting X-Men off the ground long before Blade came out. The only reason it came out when it did is because that's how long it took to get all their ducks in a row, especially with all the shenanigans around the script-writing process.