WAIT A MINUTE, THIS GUY HATES ANIME GET HIM

don't mess with us danganronpa fans we dont even like the series

I feel like the original Distrust concept would've been cooler (Distrust the game's original name before it was changed). This version of the game would've had a Distrust meter which would go up and down depending on your actions and your interactions with the other students. This would influence how things would go in the class trials. There were also multiple different killers and victims that could happen depending on your decisions. I think the investigation was stricter as well.

Okay, about ten minutes in, and the free time event thing. I think there’s one character who actively goes against her free time events in trial, and that’s Maki Harukawa. If you play her free time segments, she alludes to having another girl from her orphanage she was super close to, and that she became an assassin in order to protect her. Yet in Kaito’s trial, she says that he was the first person she wanted to protect…? Something along those lines, it’s been a minute. But playing her free times makes the conclusion of the fifth trial in that game feel worse because of it, like they were trying to invalidate the ties she had to her best friend. So bizarre to me.

Actually, have you ever heard of 'Your Turn To Die' (Kimi ga Shine)? It is also a Japanese game and, similar to Danganronpa, its a death game with multiple characters. Its genre is a visual novel, but that doesn't hold it back, rather it may actually amplify it. In my opinion, 'Your Turn To Die' is way better than Danganronpa in terms of story, character, and effective writing. This game will make you feel downright guilty and depressed by using gameplay and story. That's why this game requires gameplay. The story is masterful on its own, but the gameplay puts that intractability and uses it to its maximum effect. I highly recommend this game if you haven't played it. I'd love to see your thoughts and views on it.

The ironic thing about fuyuhiko being the only one with a true arc is… he was supposed to die. He was originally planned to die instead of hiyoko (who was originally planned to be a survivor.) but they feared that would make peko’s death pointless. Which is why Mikans trial feels shockingly shabby even for danganronpa. They didn’t have the time to make the switch seamless. It’s why hiyoko feels like her character was just… cut off. Because it was!

As a diehard Jojo fan, that Jojo criticism is literally so real and valid and I wish more people called out the issues in the series

Something about the characters talents is that a lot of them are altered, some just in wording, some that can be seen as a different talent. Aoi Asahina from the first game is the SHSL Swimmer in Japan, but in localizations, she becomes the Ultimate Swimming Pro. It’s a slight change. Take Ibuki Mioda from the second game though, she goes from SHSL Light Music Club Member, which is a type of after school club that is the basis for shows like K-on!, compared to her English title as the very broad Ultimate Musician.

There's a difference between a player driven mystery and a character driven mystery and Danganronpa is 100% a character driven mystery. It's not up to you to figure out what happened, it's up to the protagonist to solve it and you're just along for the ride to drive their actions. I also just hate Junky as a character for turning into Sigma and posthumously warping the series around herself.

haha yeah danganronpa never commits anything except for homicide

Just gonna butt in early on while watching and state that the “Ultimate” title is basically a mistranslation by NIS In the unofficial Japanese sub from SomethingAwful *have fun falling down the rabbit hole that is danganronpa internet history if curious to what the hell I’m talking abt* the titles where translated as Super HIGHSCHOOL level, SHSL, if you’ve ever dipped a toe in the Fandom you’ve definitely heard that. Which is apparently far closer to the original Japanese namesake The trend of weird changes from simple names to entire character archetypes is something the english versions are very infamous for at this point, especially V3. I can’t attest fully with many more examples, but just look it up. I think Kokichi and Gonta might as well be different characters even just from the decisions in dubbing them.

Hey, long time Danganronpa fan here. Probably since 2014/2015? I've written 319 fanfiction on the series (why yes, I am autistic, why do you ask?), and am certifiably obsessed. That being said, I tried to go into this with an open mind. I have a LOT of criticism of Danganronpa (no one hates Danganronpa more than the people who love it), and so I was definitely interested in what you had to say. First, regarding consequences of the game - I admit I never felt the stakes were low, but that's because I have a crippling fear of failure and tend to be a perfectionist - even failing trival things, like Danganronpa, can send me spiralling. This is something I'm trying to work on, because it's not healthy. But it does mean for me, personally, the stakes never felt that low. Looking at it objectively they definitely were, but I don't really see it as a negative personally (even if it's totally valid to do so). I'm not good at video games despite being very interested in them, so I don't mind being spoonfed (to a degree, though I agree that some of the game play is just not very good in some cases-plus I also agree that the dialogue can get. Pretty freaking repetitive). That being said, something that drove me wild about Danganronpa is how uninspired and repetitive the bad endings you get for failing are. Makoto is always voted as the blackened, even if it doesn't make sense for the trial. It made sense for the first case, as he was framed, but Celestia's, where she framed Yasuhiro? Why would anyone vote for Makoto? I understand Danganronpa is a long game, but I would love to see more creative, varied, and in depth bad endings from them. For example, something that stood out to me regarding Ultra Despair Girls/Another Episode is that it had a very interesting bad ending, something that felt rare for the series - it's definitely my favorite of the one's I've seen. Komaru blowing up all the Monokids heads is so haunting, and her narration is unsettling too and I think very good at envoking that horror - well, at least for Danganronpa. I really wish there was more endings like this one, though it's short it packed a punch. I really like visual novels. I'd call myself a fan of the medium. Specifically games that let you make choices that led to different outcomes/endings. Again, I'm not good at game play, but I have a love for what games are - "choose your own adventure" type stories. There's a lot of different ways to do a game, too - games where exploration affects the story are really, really cool at least in theory, but I find myself frustrated when I can't uncover everything (or at least most of what) a game has to offer, so I do tend to like somewhat limited narratives versus personalized experiences. Games where no two lets plays are the same are again, really cool in concept, and I have a lot of repsect for them, I just tend to prefer more linear stories. That being said, I do adore being given dialogue options that change how things end up - I really like multiple endings & feeling like what I say matter. Which is why it drove me nuts when Danganronpa had almost no dialogue or action choices, and one of the notable times it does in the first game, it doesn't let you pick the "wrong" option of telling Kyouko about Sakura! If you didn't want me to tell her, don't have it be an option to! I hate the illusion of choice more than if they didn't prompt me to make a choice in the first place. I disagree with you about FTEs. I think there's something really valuable to get from them, especially in SDR2 (and before the DR3 anime's retcons). I think FTEs walk a fine line as optional content; they have to add to the character, while not necessarily being needed to understand the gist of a character. Which is very hard to do! All things considered, I think they did pretty well with most of them. I LIKE learning more things about these character, even if some of what I learn is a little trival. I agree that some FTEs lean too far into "meaningless fluff", but there's also FTEs like Mahiru, where she talks about her mom and dad & in my opinion provide extra context to why she would have joined Junko in addition to twilight syndrome murder case (before the dreaded DR3 anime retcons). Akane, too, had really good FTEs in my opinion; I'd argue her FTEs are better than the content she gets in the main game (I'm salty how they treated her and Ibuki outside of their FTEs, tbh). Other stand out FTEs include Hiyoko's, Nekomaru's, Ibuki's, and Sonia's (though less so with her imo). And then, we get FTEs like Mikan Tsumiki's, which I'd argue are VITIAL to understanding her to the point where they SHOULD NOT BE OPTIONAL. I'd argue they leaned too far in the other direction for her-they made her FTEs contain too much valuable information that the main game doesn't. In my opinion, you can't fully understand chapter three of the game without doing all of her FTEs (with maybe the exception of the last one). It is so crucial and I definitely think they leaned too much into the other direction with her. It leads to a lot of people misinterpreting her. I also disagree about Salmon/Island/School Mode. Again, I've talked about how I don't share your views on FTEs, and that extends to this. I think its a nice reward for doinh the game, and a great way to finish all the FTEs you missed, as well as learn more about the characters on the dates you go on; specifically how they may react in a non despair (or pre despair, which is interesting to consider because we don’t see their school life outside of the DR3 anime, and even then we only see the SDR2 cast-I suppose we can gain some insight to the DR1 cast with DR0, but that only really gives insight to Junko, Mukuro, and a little bit Makoto). Plus, I think dating sims are fun! Especially when you're already invested in the characters. It's nice to think of a universe where they got to be normal (ish) teens. I don't consider it "me" dating the characters, but the protagonists of their respective games; since they're pretty much all fully fledged characters themselves. I was a teen myself when I played it though, so maybe it was less weird because of that. Plus, at least in SDR2, the characters are technically adults. Not the best argument since they think they're teens, look like teens, and act like teens, plus it doesn't apply to V3 (I don't think? The ending kind of makes everything questionable, tbh), but that's media for you, I guess. I would say "that's anime for you", but to be honest I think sexualization of teens and "gotcha! They're not technically teens because blah blah blah!" is unfortunately apparent in media all across the world. Hmmmm. To be completely honest, Danganronpa 1 is my least favorite game, with Super Danganronpa 2 being my favorite! I do agree that the atmosphere of DR1 is more eerie, but I liked the world building, plot including plot twists (well... for the most part; I still don't really like Mechamaru or chapter a lot of chapter 4, despite it arguably having one of the more horrifying motives provided by Monokuma), and characters a lot more in SDR2 than in DR1. But of course, that's only counting the games; my favorite installment has to be Danganronpa 0, a light novel that unfortunately never got an official localization (my icon is the POV character from the novel, actually!), and my least favorite HAS to be the Danganronpa 3 anime. So much potential in that anime that is just frustratingly not fulfilled. I've gotten a lot of flack online for saying that, but it's what I think. Still, even DR3 I don't HATE. I think it had potential, which makes how it squanders it even more disappointing. I tend to write that off as due to time constraints. I agree with you about the tone. Sometimes its really jarring how unaffected by things they are. I think it's most jarring with Ibuki. She's supposed to be a very sweet girl, but she only acts as comic relief even when theres a deadbody on the floor. It makes her look calloused. I think its supposed to read as her trying to keep the mood up with humor and cheer up her friends, but honestly, it just makes it look like she doesn't care about her friends dying. Yeah, "Tell them, Naegi!" Is a meme for a reason. No need to say more. I'd argue that Makoto isn't characterless. It's just that ironically he's a lot less interesting when you're in his POV. He has a very clear moral philosophy in SDR2, he has principles, he makes somewhat morally gray choices in the cause of what he thinks is right. He believes in redeeming the remnants, even if he has to betray Future Foundation to do it... Which I'd argue is SUPER interesting. He is essentially arguing for redeemtion and restorative justice, which is a real position real people have. He is infinitely more interesting when you view him from the outside. I also want to say, the fact that he is a mostly normal guy also isn't just to insert the player-it serves to illustrate the series themes that talent DOESN'T equal hope. It's important that Makoto is normal AND the Ultimate Hope. Him being so proves Hope's Peak and people like Nagito Komaeda wrong, which is very important for the message of the series. Hope is found in the peopke around you, the bonds you have, and kindness. That's what Danganronpa says with Makoto Naegi. I went over the character limit, so continued comment in the replies!

That one guy named Danganronpa who doesn’t know how to use Git:

Amazing video, KZfaq desperately needs more danganronpa content. Just one thing. The more canon translation to the Ultimate titles is Super High School Level. So these kids are not THE best on the planet, they're just extremely advanced compared to their peers. Just like Chihiro isn't programmer №1 in the world but someone who earned a collaboration with AI researchers at age 16/18(don't remember), The SHSL Nurse is also just that. The most notable talent in this age group. She's still not a professional medic, so there might have been a very valid reason for Ryota to leave the room and bump into Junko.

I always find it interesting how can someone like SDR2 without at least appreciating Komaeda as a character when he was the one making the plot interesting not to mention 2-4 and 2-5 are the best chapters of the franchise thanks to him

At least Your Turn to Die fixes (more or less) the problem of having a hilariously linear plot where you absolutely will eventually take the right route, in YTTD you are forced to choose who dies sometimes and can kill characters on accident. I mean, that game even did right having an AI based off of a now dead companion with the emotional impact on characters that it should have.

being hyperfixated on danganronpa and agreeing with every single thing in this video is like being the danganronpa story line. you contradict yourself

Yk what? Danganronpa is best in written novel form like in Danganronpa zero (junko is a much more compelling villian here.) and Danganronpa kirigiri. Its dog water in anime form. And somewhat alright in visual novel form (the killing game ), it's biggest flaw is the repetitiveness and useless fillar dialogue it has, so i think if it was just a novel alot of those issues would've been fixed.

I can definitely relate to the mind-numbingness of the editing process! I just put this video on while cooking earlier and you got a very smooth style. Looking forward to binging some more when I have more time.

Haven’t finished the video yet, but for Ishimaru the English translation of his title is weird. In Japanese it’s “Public Morals Committee Member”, which is a much different vibe than wat us English speakers got. I wish they went with more literal translations for some things.

14:23 In the dub of the April Fools Fangame Danganronpa Rebirth called Danganronpa Rebirth Voices (which was sadly cancelled), there was a character (Saiji Rokudou) who was the Ultimate Undertaker. Just goes to show that Danganronpa fangames will always be better than the canon games.

"I know she stabbed him with a knife-" "BUT CAN YOU SPELL THE WORD KNIFE?!" "...yeah?" "IN THIS FUN GAME?" (several letters floating about to dumb music) "I need a K." "MAKE SURE YOU PICK THE RIGHT LETTERS!" "I can't spell 'knife' without a K." "AND IF DIFFERENT LETTERS TOUCH, THEY EXPLODE!" "There's no K!" "YOU GET TO MAKE A COMIC BOOK AFTER THIS!"

In regards to the DR3 Despair anime, before it was released, a common fan theory people had was that Junko personally found each of the students at their lowest and recruited them one-by-one to help her. This was mainly due to how the third trial ended, and Junko's whole thing is her obsession with despair. I even remember a fan comic someone made of Ibuki and Junko. I honestly wish that was done instead as so much of her plan in the anime feels half-assed as you said. It doesn't feel like this is supposed to be the mastermind. Also before anyone asks, I am also aware of the light novel with a certain twist regarding her, but ngl I don't even know if even the anime remembers it unless the eye analysis scene counts.

The thing about V3 is that Kodaka basically made it to shut up the fandom because EVERYONE was whining about getting another danganronpa game and he wanted to make it meta and ruin it for everyone so they would stop asking for more games, since he was trying to seperate himself from the danganronpa series and make a name for himself outside of it. At least this is what I heard from people in the fandom so take that with a grain of salt.

Criticizing Danganronpa? That's every Danganronpa fan's favorite hobby!

Disclaimer: this comment is written after watching only up to the THH section. I played THH after it went onto Game Pass and years of it being recommended to me (I like Ace Attorney and Among Us). I don't like anime or the horror genre and this series is one of the only pieces of media I've consumed that fits into either of those categories. Went into it blind. When I got to the Junko part I was so confused on how they write something so ridiculous that I had to play the rest of the series. My theory for how Alter Ego saved Makoto, is that it is also a worm, as well as an AI, so when Kyoto and Makoto connect it to the school network, it spread to as many devices as it could as a defense mechanism. That's how I assumed it went when first playing it, so I didn't question when it saved Makoto. I did question why it didn't saved Kyoto when she was executed in the exact same way.

IT’S REAL! THE DANGANROPA VIDEO IS REAL!

I feel like you may just like... not have the themes right. If you find so many counters to the permanence of death idea, maybe it's not a theme the writers were intending on readers taking? Like I never felt like DR was ever about the permanence of Death considering, in just the first game alone, everything with Chihiro and Alter Ego, Kyondo Ishida, Junko Fucking Enoshima being the mastermind despite being supposedly dead the whole time, hifumi faking his death, Mukuro's corpse being "killed again", Celeste's monologue about being reborn to be executed. If anything it's not ever about the permanence of death but the way death can happen at anytime to anyone. Or at least the tragedy of lost youth, or something, but death in DR has almost never been permanent, like even once...

42:18 nononono don't just brush over that, that part in particular bothered me . Shouldn't have her body been crushed in the first game ? How on earth are any of these reminants getting their hands on her body parts???

the way i see it, the V3 ending was literally just tsumugi lying because she makes so many obvious contraditions and theres actually a lot of evidence, but if anything... that just proves your point lmao

I love me some Jojo but yeah, Stardust Crusaders is kinda just Enemy Stand user of the week until we reach DIO and a few character threads get resolution along the way. At 48 episodes it basically gives the same experience as a Super Sentai series with fewer giant robots but just as much posing for the camera. However I need to counter one statement. Joseph Joestar does not have an Oedipus Complex. In the screenshot shown he doesn't realize Lisa Lisa is his mother, as far as he knows she's just his hot teacher. It's the same joke as "Haha Luke and Leia kissed but they were actually siblings" and the only people who say those two wanna do the Alabama Square Dance are fanfic writers. And as others have stated, the majority of weirdness comes as a result of the official translations. "Ultimate" is a bad substitute for "Super High School Level," Moral Compass is a bizarre translation of "Discipline Committee Member" etc etc

Ten seconds on and we're off to a bad start

You're making me want to recommend Shu Takumi games Like Ace Attorney and Ghost Trick Ace Attorney is a murder mystery visual novel And Ghost Trick is a puzzle game mystery novel I love these games dearly! And they scratch my brain with how shocking or silly the plot twists are!!

9:31 well they don’t really do much with that the characters that die or get executed yet maybe one or two mentions things never get talked about again

Game's not very fun to play, but fun to be a fan of.

i was gonna watch only a few minutes of the video and then get some breakfast, but unfortunately i couldn't commit to that, and i ended up watching the whole essay instead. as to be expected of a video from the ultimate anime hater sojournerkai.

i didnt even start the video yet but to me danganronpa is one of those series that isnt actually that good, but because of nostalgia, you look back at it fondly. danganronpa was basically my life back in middle school okay after watching the video i think you should definitely play ultra despair girls because it is simultaneously the best and worst game in the series

ooo excited to watch this one later!

ITS HERE! THE LONG AWAITED DANGANRONPA VIDEO IS HERE! And after dead meat doing a kill count of Danganronpa, coincidence? I think not! Love the video kai! And can't wait for the next episode

2:11 "It's basically Among Us the visual novel." Gnosia:

It's funny how Umineko manages to be a way better (and longer) Danganronpa despite being a kinetic Visual Novel (that means it has absolutely no gameplay, you only read the text and enjoy the amazing music u.u)

heavily underrated video, dang also FINALLY someone gives koichi more spotlight excellent video, hope it picks up more people!

it doesn’t have to make sense i can’t even tell you why i love danganronpa so much, you make extremely valid points and i agree with all of it but still love this gameeee

You don't watch enough anime.

Of course I am a fan of Danganronpa and of course I hate Danganronpa

The game got me into more mystery detective games

Tell 'em, Kai!

1:00:58 so I wanted to say that on some level the anime retcons Danganronpa:Zero, a light novel that also explores Hopes Peak prior to the events of the first game. …I like DR0 better

If I had the time, resources, and team, I would make Danganronpa: Brotherhood. Danganronpa is frustrating because there’s good to be found, but it's quite literally held together with duct tape and hope. GamingMagic13 gave the writing a more thorough thrashing than I have the cognitive ability to, but I have my own grievances and it is KILLING me that my own fixes will never be made canon. I mean, look. What was the latest addition to this franchise, and possibly the LAST one? A goddamn gacha game with the thinnest story possible. Ugh. Edit 7/3/24: Ok so me and Gamingmagic...kiiiinda aren't on good terms anymore lmfao, so I'm running a retraction on that part of my comment. I still really want a Danganronpa Brotherhood, though. For Kirumi. FOR KIRUUUUMMIIIIIII!

Oh holy shit this is so well edited and so smooth and i am only two minutes in. Can’t begin to fathom how long this took. I need to set aside some time to sink my teeth into this video properly…

Lore of Danganronpa Never Commits momentum 100

THE VIDEO EXISTS LES GOOOOOOOOOO

yuppp yup. if i tried to write down all the ways danganronpa doesnt commit to itself, i could be here for weeks. some language notes! -i hope someone else has already mentioned, but the official english translation of danganronpa kinda obscures some terminology. ex: "Ultimate [blank]" are more accurately called "super high school level [blank]" and talents like the ultimate "moral compass" are more literally translated as the ultimate "public morals committee member"- which in a school setting is like a hall monitor. This means that while character's talents can seem downright supernatural, the intended implication is that they're the best of the best possible for highschoolers. this ties into them being hope for the future yada yada themes. and that if a character's talent seems confusing for their actions or skill set, its probably worth reviewing the literal translation, just in case that elucidates the WAY their character is taken to absurdity. -anime speech is unrealistic in many ways, but the repeating things is actually more realistic than other stuff (like exaggerated cadences, accepted levels of politeness, etc). In japanese, repeating phrases is a fairly natural part of conversation for the sake of showing attentiveness and engagement. There are times in anime and especially in danganronpa where i think this too is exaggerated (UNDER THE TABLE YOU SAY), but its a little less about spoon-feeding information to your audience and more about having the characters take the mystery theyre solving seriously. Japanese in general has a much higher tolerance for repetition than english that i think is often difficult to make sound as initially intended when translated. silly story nitpicks -yeah the characters being/understanding themselves to be highschoolers really chafes against fanservice and fanservice gags. Regarding hiyoko as pedobait i think the idea is that she gets a special mention on account of Looking younger than everyone else, not simply being young. which is still pretty fucked up even though it applies if she were of-age in every way and yeah i care even less for this idea as i finish typing this -"izuru kamukura was unaware he would be caught by the power of the neo world program" no he knew. he did it intentionally. there's not even precedent to think he wouldn't know that

30:32 Even as a Dangraronpa fan, DR2 and DR3's fanservice wasvery jarring compared to DR1, but anime's got to anime

have you read danganronpa 0? i totally get if youre done with the series but perhaps youll find it interesting since its also not a game and so doesnt have a player anyway, im not into danganronpa anymore and havent been into it for a long time, i only look back at it now with fond nostalgia, but yeah even back then i knew it was very very flawed. but honestly most things i like are very flawed. i think what i liked about danganronpa was mainly just how over the top and creative it is, with strange characters, strange murders and a strange world. also i was still pretty young when i first got into danganronpa, so i was, well, stupider. and was seeing some tropes for the first time in danganronpa.

I like Danganronpa and still subbed for the thorough video and fair analysis

Holy shit, it's just like Detective Pikachu Returns. I watched RTGame's stream of it and it was like playing a downgrade of Dora the Explorer.

9 minutes in and im interested to hear your thoughts on other anime-esque mystery VNS such as Umineko, Zero Escape and Ace Attorney

i loved your essay on danganronpa, thank you for your efforts in making this!! i really hope you give your turn to die (kimi ga shine) a try, i feel that it’s much more well written, i’d love to hear your thoughts on it!

I feel like you would enjoy Monster by Naoki Urasawa (a realistic Thriller that plays in Post WW2 Germany), and A House of many Doors (actually a game, but I saw Sunless Skies on the list of games you like there, and A House of many Doors was made by one of the Fallen London Writers)

What are your thoughts on the zero escape franchise?

I have the title theme from a night in the woods set as my ring tone so when i put my phone in my pocket i started to panic because it started playing

The pointless back tracking and repeating what was already made obvious used to bug the hell out of me too

Sunless Skies? In my Danganronpa video essay? It's more likely than you think. But for real, Skies, Seas and Fallen London belong to my absolute favourite games, and I have to check out your Skies video now, despite what you said about it It's also interesting how much I enjoyed both Danganronpa and the Failbettergames with the incredible difference in the writing between the two.

Guys I have a confession to make When watching animated shows, I love to watch stuff with an artstyle I like, and sometimes I'll like the art so much it'll be the whole reason i watch the show lol. However, Danganronpa is my one, and only exception. I hate the art style so much and i cant even tell you why. Is it the linework? The screwball eyes? The comic book outlines? I literally cant tell you, but i hate the artstyle so much it has made me not want to play the game or watch the show despite it being so popular. I literally recognise a small pixelated image in the corner of something as danganronpa because i hate the artstyle so much. I have read stuff by beginner young artists, that look equivalent to anime george washington or that one drawing of sasuke thinking. I watched all of rwby, despite how bad the models looked (even though the choreography made up for it) but danganronpa for some reason is where i draw the line. I purposefully avoid talking about it when people bring it up because what do i even say? "Sorry its too ugly??" Im hoping this story can give me some context for that insane nagito guy with white hair so i can appreciate fanart i see of him on instagram, though it seems like this guy doesnt like the game very much.

Never played DR, but watched a bit if the anime, this video is really well put together and held my attention. Have you played the 999 series? It is similarly kind of sci-fi and off the wall with its writing, but the puzzles and characters are pretty entertaining

6:06 Ironically, this is a very common way of speaking in Japan. Repeating a certain part of a sentence for clarification is something everyone does. This is not the unrealistic part about anime at all.

FINAL SPACE MENTION.

The anime isn't cannon, there are only 3 games and the 3rd one isn't really connected to the first 2. Everyone who died is still dead and the narrative makes sense as it is.

I am curious about your statement, that visual novels are your least favorite game genre and am curious to know how would you feel about the title "Slay the Princess", since I believe it to be a quite breathtaking experience

thats why im making my own killing game visual novel hehe

Another commenters already said that, but I heavily suggest playing Your Turn To Die. Despite being made by one person with a low budget, it executes a lot of things better than Danganronpa. The stakes feel real, the gameplay is actually necessary and they don't spoonfeed you the answer and you can ACTUALLY miss things! Without spoiling much, I find it very interesting how the game just leaves it in your hands to choose to learn a few bits of information about the cast or simply... not to. It's very rewarding when you do learn specific information about certain characters because it adds another layer to certain scenes (and sometimes they literally add on to the scenes). Speaking of the cast... OMG THE CAST! Not all of them are my favorite but they ALL are well written! There's always something for me to enjoy about each of them, people can play the games choosing to focus on different sets of characters and they'll still have content of the characters to consume (me speaking as someone who got into Leon, Junko, Kiyotaka, Mondo and Chihiro when I played THH and uh... Yeah bad choice and a bit of a letdown), the story takes them all seriously and they all are important in some way. Even those who die early mean a LOT! The game doesn't feel repetitive and the protagonist is actually very good. Your Turn To Die is my favorite game of all time for multiple reasons and I think people should give it a chance, ESPECIALLY those who played Danganronpa. I heavily recommend!!

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You can't really say failure is inconsequential when you get a graded score based on your performance. Like isn't the point of video games to get the highest score and therefore the highest grade?

I wanna watch the video to the end but I haven't played v3. Is it worth playing?

You should check out UDG at some point id like to see your retrospective

bro u jump scared tf out of me. i was watching passively and zoned out for a second. I just recently moved to the annoying, boring, rude Columbus Georgia and my attention locked straight back in when you brought it up.

Ayo, danganronpa analysis with nitw intro, awesome

i see you with that night in the woods ost segue

11:29 Excuse me, is that Honkai Star Rail ost?!

21:55 Sooo Fun fact, in the Japanese version, the message is also written in English, so in Japan, that's not so obvious as it is here in America, because many people don't know English all too well

I honestly agree a bit

it's one of a kind

Dunno why this showed up in my reccs, but honestly plentybof anime have what you are looking for. Both Jojo and akame ga kill are shonen (run in magazines for teenage boys). While there are plenty if great series from shonen magazines, try looking into some seinen (demographic of adult men), shojo (teen girls), or josei (adult women).

Watching joseph Anderson play these games gives me life. WAIT ITS LEON

NAME OF THE WIND FAN SPOTTED?! (

31:47 bro uses yt to mp3 converter he just like me fr

i've put off watching this video for a while, because i find that a few of the critiques of danganronpa that i've seen don't engage with the series in good faith. you actually do engage with it, and point out what you like about the game, and i think that makes your critiques feel justified; there's stuff here you like, but the stuff you dislike drags it down. that's a very refreshing take, considering the loudest voices on the subject of danganronpa seem to be "it all sucks and is all irredeemable garbage media for teenagers with no taste". acknowledging the positives that danganronpa has boosts your credibility as a critic, imo. i think your point about dr working better as an anime is really interesting, because in my experience, most of the fan base seems to disagree. i think that's because the fanbase as a whole is more interested in the *characters*, while you're more interested in the *gameplay experience*. a cast of 16 is big, and an anime doesn't have the time to devote sections to each character (look at how the dr1 anime adaptation basically tells us nothing about the characters with the exception of naegi and kirigiri). meanwhile, the danganronpa games and their free time events basically exist to fill that gap. the fanbase, which primarily wants to learn more about the characters, is completely content with this solution. however, as you pointed out, the limitations imposed by the player needing to participate in the class trials makes the protagonist (most egregiously naegi) seem stupid and makes the player feel like they've had information simply spoon fed to them. to learn more about the characters, the game format works better. to get a good murder mystery experience, the anime format works better. i think it's interesting to see where different perspectives lie on what's most "important" in danganronpa. what would be the solution to this? my idea was a danganronpa anime without the free time events, but put the ftes on some sort of computer or mobile game in a visual novel format. but it sounds kind of silly to have to play a visual novel to understand an anime. then again, danganronpa v3 is supposed to be an alternate timeline where you don't need to be familiar with the rest of the series to get into it, and that is ostensibly false... so, yknow. tl;dr: danganronpa bad... but also, danganronpa good? danganronpa nuance.

I think overall this video is mostly really valid but it does irk me that he refers to the ending of the anime changing details about the ending of SDR2, which it does not. At the end of SDR2 the survivors are given 3 choices: wake up with their new memories but everyone who's dead stays dead, or start over and try to make new memories but have no prior knowledge to save anybody which is implied could've been looped, or wake everybody up with no new memories whatsoever leaving them as their evil counterparts. The survivors end up choosing that last option while swearing that they simply will remember anyway. SDR2 ends on a shot of hajime with his pre-kamakura haircut which he supposedly does not have at the start, implying that it worked. The ending of the anime, as well as the OVA, *showcases* that it worked. I do believe it does add to your point of having a hard time committing, but this particular plot point is baked into SDR2 and the lore, and is not a fault of any anime retcons, as the anime does its best with what it is given. Also for people that just like following the danganronpa timeline it is narratively satisfying getting to know that SDR2 was meaningful to the events of the series rather than being "maybe canon technically not really" like DRV3.

Have you heard of Aviary Attorney? It's like Ace Attorney but you can lose a trial and the game just carries on with the story changing to adapt. It's on Steam. Seems like something you'd enjoy after hearing you didn't like the low stakes.

2:30 kiyotaka's uniform makes more sense if yo view him as "ultimate I just followed orders student"

I'm about 35 mins in, but it sounds like what you wanted was Ace Attorney. That game has a lot of what you liked about Danganronpa 2, and doesn't have a lot of what you hated

LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOO

3:45 : I screamed.

0:23 i was so relieved here because most of the time i refuse to watch danganronpa videos because i know at some point there'll probably be a grossly sexual comment made about one of the teen characters.. but thats what i get for playing the game series where a sexual pose is the key to solving a murder in the second game

This is just a personal suggestion of mine. I feel like the themes of the series would have fit better if things weren't presented in a high school setting with teenagers. I know it would have changed next to nothing overall, and maybe it's just a cultural difference because Japanese society has their ages of maturity set lower than other parts of the world, but the more mature mindsets of the characters, their reactions to events, and the adult themes fit much better in my opinion for them as they're reaching their 20s than 17 and younger. It also wouldn't be as awkward having scenes of the female character being peeped on in a bathhouse because they're minors.

Soooooooo…we just not gonna talk about hiyoko’s murder weapon orrrr… 😬

PEAAAAAAAAAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

3:44 that is absolutely hilarious

Wait you didn’t really talk about V3???