Ben Simmons is being guided by LeBron and Co, Chris. All this comes back the LeFraud

“Stack the deck” is the very phrase for this situation. He tried it in LA, and now it’s all coming down like Jenga blocks.

How they ask the callers but then talk over the callers🤣🤣🤣

If Kyrie wasn't in Cleveland, LeBron wouldn't have went back WHEN he did. Let's cut it out!

The caller was right. If The Cavs didn't have what they had he wouldn't have went back

So the second someone disagrees with y’all, y’all cut them off?!? Okay got it

Lebron told the Cavs if they don’t trade the #1 pick for love he wasn’t coming back! Chris and rob are wrong!

The only how Lebron's move ruined the NBA is because now you see star players quit on their team, when things ain't going their way.

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That Celtics team isn’t the same. Those guys were at the end of their Prime. Doc even said “our window is right now” Lebron was 26

The top 4 players in 2010 were Kobe, Bron, Durant, & Wade. Not only did Lebron join another top 4 player but he then added a top 15 player in Bosh. Lebron subsequently stacked those Heat teams with veterans. Wade wasn’t just a superstar. He was a superstar that had already won a chip before. So Lebron had a championship teammate that could guide him on the journey to a chip. When Jordan won his first chip, he didn’t have a championship teammate to show him the ropes. Jordan had to figure it out on his own and people appreciate that journey. But Lebron took a shortcut by joining a championship superstar in Wade. The 2008 Celtics did not have 2 of the top 4 players in the NBA so they were not the same as the Heat. The 80s Celtics were a superteam but they had to deal with other superteams at the time. The Early 80s Sixers, 80s Lakers, & late 80s Pistons. When the Heat Big 3 was assembled in 2010, there was no other superteam out there that was constructed like them. No other team had 2 top 4 players and a top 15 player. That’s why the Heat Big 3 was viewed as overkill.

When Lebron went to Miami he wasnt thinking about empowering players, he was only thinking about himself. So if we're going to say that he empowered players, we need to make it clear that it definitely wasnt his intention, and it was only a side effect of what he did.

And Lebron cracked because of the pressure and ran to create a Superteam and then did it again in Cleveland and tried to do it again in LA. Remember that he was recruiting Kahwi to come play with him and AD after Kahwi won the chip. Then tried to get Giannis last year. Lebron definitely made it cool to take the easy way out.

Of course Chris missed the point, although Lebron played out his contracts after he went to Miami he and his agency “Klutch Sports” always made it clear he might not resign and then went to a year to year contracts. Thus making it hard for the GM to actually sign players because they knew he wasn’t staying. I’ll also add Lebron wasn’t thinking about “player empowerment” he just wanted to stack the deck for himself.

Mavs in 2011 made them pay for the, “it’s going to be easy” quote haha

Heat Big 3 is like Kobe, TMac and Jermaine O’Neal teaming up from 03’-07’. Cavs Big was like Kobe playing with Marbury and Rasheed Wallace, but let’s just say from 08’-11’, Kobe going to Utah to play with D Will and Boozer. Then Bron getting AD is like Kobe in 2013 getting KG from 03’. Just think about it

“Super teams” back in the day were organized trades and picks, today is different they don’t want to compete at all Like dame, Bron starts this bs and ruined the league! Jordan never left after being beat down by pistons he stuck it out until his team got better an they got Phil. Sure some will say pistons and lakers got old, but it was Jordan’s turn.

Lebroussard got sensitive when they talk about Lebum 😂

This is facts. And people bring up the Celtics as the reason he had to leave like they were some unbeatable team. Didn't Kobe beat them in the finals? Didn't Dwight beat them in the Eastern conference?!?! They weren't the Durant Warriors. LBJ didn't want to thug it out and chose to play with 2 of the top 5 picks of his own draft class and depleted 2 teams in the process.

The problem with Chis' logic is - *where do you draw the line* ? Once you open that can of worms by players stacking the deck, then you can't back track and say Miami superteam is OK but Warriors' superteam is not OK. Why is one OK and the other not OK? The other problem is that he tries to compare superteams in the 1980's to superteams today. But in the 1980's there were only 23 teams in the league. There are 30 teams in the league today, and most of them aren't very good. When players stack the deck in today's league they further dilute the talent pool of the average and mediocre teams because good players usually only leave franchises that are mediocre or average for better situations.

This is what I learn about teamwork and the beauty of sport -> never abandon your team, to win and to lose together. The legacy is not about how many championship you have. It is about how you win it.

I'll say this if you pick your team (stack the deck as they say) as a player and you don't run the league your legacy is ruined because you can't have a stacked team and it underachieves. If you recruit multiple hall of famers or all stars and you don't dominate it's a failure. You have no excuse outside of injury as a reason you didn't win it all all the time. That's the risk of building a superteam you better be super.

He went back to Cleveland after a loss. If he woulda went after a win I'd give u that but when they lost....he ran

KD does NOT go anywhere without LeBron stacking the deck and creating a super team. LeBron groupies hate this fact. This has always disqualified the guy

Shannon Sharpe is up right now. Coming up with a argument for Bron. I like hearing Shannon but he defend Bron no matter what.

I keep saying that the big 3 in Miami under-performed tremendously. To think Lebron James, Chris Bosh and Dwade only won 2 rings. Kobe and Gasol accomplished the same as the big 3 in Miami. They lost to the Dallas Mavericks and got blown out by a San Antonio Spurs team by a record margin. At least try to dominate after you form a super team.

Now Chris says its player empowerment. But when KD did it, he dogged him, like Lebron didnt start it.

I agree with the caller and I said the same thing! Kyrie was a young all star point guard and Cleveland had the first overall pick that could be flipped into another all star! Lebron is great at controlling the narrative! He went to Cleveland thinking he could have a dominant scoring guard and all star power forward and try to get a younger version of what he had in Miami under the guise that he was just trying to make things right with Cleveland! If Cleveland didn’t have Kyrie and the first overall pick, he never would’ve gone back!

But that’s not what iman was trying to say tho , 😭 how they tryna put it like it something . Iman and rob is different ways of saying he ruined basketball

In all honesty lebron should have more rings with as many times as he's been to the finals his record shows he relied too much on other stars when he should have been the one taking the last shots

Who was Bron side kick first go round in Cleveland. Name a lottery pick that he got who was good

The problem with stacking the deck and putting together super teams is you're expected to win more than 2, so the 2 out of 4 by the Heat was a failure and us fans don't give that team any props. Just like KD's 2 rings on the warriors are 💩. Remember, respect is earned.

the issue isnt that Lebron left. its that he joined up with a top 5 player, and another top 15-20 player. If he had went to a better run organization few would be angry at that.

Funny how they mention Jordan and Giannis sticking with their team and won but doesn't mention Curry before Durant and he signed an extension with the team that drafted him but the beginning of the season they were saying if Curry wants to win he should go to another team.

Loyalty was a part of the game at some point. I know the owners and GMs can always make moves, but every team had their guy. At least it felt like that. I do miss those days. It is almost like teams don't even matter anymore.

I gotta be honest I loved player movement when it first started. I liked seeing players take control of their careers and do what they wanted but it is so out of control now it has killed the whole culture of repping your team and city because each year it's just a new batch of mercenaries on the roster. The contract don't even mean anything anymore and forget buying gear with your favorite player on the back because the first time he gets in his feelings he will want off the team. It's just not that enjoyable to watch anymore. When trade rumors are at the top of every NBA conversation that tells you the state of the league.

Caller was 1000% right, and I remember when it started too. When Kyrie won all-star mvp. Bron was on the bench salivating, you could see it on his face. Same as when he went to check out lonzo ball in summer league, then all of a sudden kyrie wanted out. He knew bron was leaving the same way he left miami for him, and he didn't want to give bron the satisfaction. Obvious as the day is long, and I'm not even a Kyrie guy.

Phil, you're wrong sir. I didn't run to hop on the best team on the playground. I just played the game. Secondly, we're not million dollar athletes neither. And that's the point Chris, LBJ and KD are on another level and they both took the damn easy way to not be Karl Malone, Patrick Ewing, Charles Barkley. They too the easy way out because it was expectations for them to win. They're both weak and their 6 Chips combined won't stand up against Jordan 6.

Rob Parker never makes sense

Lol 😂 the caller was right Chris the puppet was in is feelings Lebron did see kyrie was a superstar and he left his best friend wade to join Kyrie I 💯 % agree with the caller

Bron second best player was mo Williams nuff said

Bron did the right thing to leave the Cavs, but really it’s what he actually did after leaving. He could’ve gone to any other team, but he decided to form a Big 3 super team in Miami with Wade and Bosh and all three of them were in their primes. Eventually that backfired because of KD took his blueprint and perfected it

"Not 5.. not 6.." u know damn well if Wades knees didn't go out he would've stayed in Miami. That caller was on point

Yes, I strongly feel LeBron mess up the league too. What he did kind of makes the essence of Draft useless. The Drafting idea was to mainly balance things up and allow general competition.

I agree with Chris. If you don't want players taking that much control, fine. Owners and GM's should do a better job putting teams together. Why shouldn't players take matters into their own hands when front offices prove that they don't know what they're doing?

Lebron has played with over 170+ players during his career, and counting. He stacked the deck, failed and ruined basketball.

He honored his contract & he made a team. KD joined the very team he couldn’t beat that was already made. He put the power in the players hand. They hate different that’s the thing. It’s no blueprint that you have to follow.

I like how everyone forgot Paul Pierce, Ray Allen and Kevin Garnett got together to beat Lebron first. Then Lebron said, ok yall not going to get me any help. Well Pat Riley will.

Broussard is wrong. The first caller was completely right. He knew kyrie was there and was a 20+ ppg scorer and he knew he could get Love who was a 25 and 12 player at the time

Not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6. Just 2. 2 in 4 years. Under achieving ass “super team”.

Why Lebron? What about KG and Ray Allen?🤔 OR what about EVERY OTHER BIG STAR THAT WENT TO THE LAKERS (SHAQ, JABAR ETC...)

How did lebron ruin basketball by going to Miami ? They wasn’t dominate like many people thought . Lebron lived up to his part but honestly after year 1 wade/bosh declined every year . He didn’t ruin basketball , if anything he changed every basketball player life after him with what he did .

are you really comparing Jordan and curry from what lebron did stop it this is why Chris gets on my nerves alot of times

Thank you Iman, finally someone came out and is not afraid to speak the truth. 🔥🔥🔥🔥💯💯

Teams can put together great squads through long term planning, scouting and gd trades. This is like if one guy owned 5 teams and used all their assets to put together one super team. The players aren’t competing against each other like teams do it’s anti competition.

Funny how Iman, said so many things about Lebron. How great a teammate, leader, plays the game hard and the right way every day. They picked this little part to talk about. It's like a Recruit took a job. He had to work there 5 years before he could transfer. After those five years were over. He's leaves for a better running company, which pays more and has better coverage and benefits. At this point if a person wouldn't do that. He's just DAF.

I don't know what Rob was talking about. I played hi school and college and the coach always tried to stack the team. Not many Lillards

The difference Broussard is that unlike the 2007 Celtics and 2004 Lakers, the 2010 Heat was one of the first times we’ve seen superstars in their PRIME team up. Other teams put rosters together with ageing stars.

Are the GMs and team presidents ever held accountable for putting together horrible teams? You have instances of players that were needed traded from teams or teams not doing more to get players causing some teams to stay bad forever

Going 2 for 4 on the Heat…Lebron’s legacy will never live that down. Ever.

"Miami was exciting, Golden State was bad for the game" - Chris "Klutch Sports" Broussard. What a damn joke.

One of the biggest gripes I have with this show is how the always cut off the callers while the callers try to get their points across then say the callers aren’t trying to listen and this is their show. I love the show but I hate that.

Did it ruin the game no.. it changed the competitiveness of the league and it ushered in the AUU mentality of the best players team up to try to win instead of beating each other for a championship

Bron killed the competitive edge no doubt

All of aa sudden you now have short memories. Don't worry I got you covered. Lebron James said in Miami, not one, not two, not three, not four, not five, not six, not seven, eight. That's what he said before he ran his azz back to the only team that the NBA could pass him on. And he got lucky, and a couple of things went his way, like the Draymond Green getting suspended, their center getting hurt, abd after that they won their very first championship. Chris Brousard, and Nick Wright, and Shannon Sharpe, wasn't expecting that the Golden State Warriors was about to acquire Kevin Durant, and go on to sweep the Cavaliers the next year. Proving that was a good move to improve the team, and also proved Rob Parker correct. Lebron got man handled by Kevin Durant twice in the finals and Lebron James didn't won't no smoke, supposed to be the best player in the world, and prove he wasn't. What else do I need to say.

Rob has a lot of bad takes he's stuck to over the years, but this is the only one that I agree. I don't hate Lebron for doing it, as I think he was just trying to empower players....... but now it seems like only a few players seem loyal to a franchise and same with the franchise towards its players. Shumpert saying he knocked down the 4th wall couldn't be better said. Smart business move by Lebron, but ultimately bad for the NBA brand with fans.

Kobe won back to back and he didn’t have to leave to join no super team , once again he’s never brought up in conversations unless it’s about him winning with shaq , it’s ridiculous

Chris is wrong about Lebron giving his all before he left. He quit when he first left Cleveland and when he left Miami.

Lebron would never go to a team who just beat him in conference finals yr before that’s just unreal unheard of who does that 🤣🤣🤣

"knocking the 4th wall down" that's a great reference. This saying is used when an actor talks to the camera during a movie or a show

If loyalty is that important and you're a role player just sign for less money but add a no trade clause idk

I always find it fascinating,when the Gm puts together a Super team it's ok,But now the players have the leverage,everyone is crying!! When the Gm gets rid of you're favorite player it's ok,But when the Player decides to leave,he's should have stayed in a losing Organization and never Won anything🤷🏼‍♂️ok got it Rob!!

I agree with iman & it wasn’t a negative statement it was saying he showed ppl the truth

Chris on that first caller 🤣🤣 he heard the truth and didn't like it at all

“I’m sure some music will come in at some point.” lol, Chris is hilarious.

This aint news, ppl already know lebron ruined the nba. Why u think ppl are waiting for him to retire?

It's called holding the team accountable. The Cavs drafted Lebron and sat on their laurels while he made them bank with Mo Williams as his running mate. Players are judged on accomplishments while teams are judged on revenue and those interests don't always align like they should. The media has a hand in this too, constantly saying it don't mean a thing if you don't got a ring

Lbj didn't start the super team era, he started the NBA Mercenaries era

Chris & Rob both forget that Ray Allen went from Boston to Miami long before KD left OKC for Golden State. Also, what about Hakeem, Drexler, & Barkley in Houston...oh and what about the big 3 in Boston (Pierce, Garnett, & Allen)???

The Cleveland Cavaliers didn't put the right pieces around LeBron. He became a free agent and went to Miami. What's the problem here???? 🤔

Steph could arguably surpass both in terms of winning and equal impact on the game

They brought up Damian Lillard and Giannis but the media pushed for Giannis to get traded before he won and still trying to push Dame to leave.

Y’all comfortable saying only Bron was envisioning player empowerment?

So it is okay when the GM’s try to stack the deck but not when the players do it, even though the end result or the ultimate goal is the same…to create the best TEAM possible??

How did LeBron ruin the league when he was playing by the rules set forth by the league?

Losing to Dallas in 2011, and saying that team is an aging team? Look who'd they beaten during that run.

Bron played w/ Wade Bosh AD Kyrie & Love in their primes & only got 3 rings n a bubble

I do not think that it is fair to say that “LeBron James ruined basketball“ but I do think that there is a certain unpleasant feeling that comes along with player made super teams that you do not get with organization created super teams. I think it comes from the idea that you want your players to go out there and want to beat the other team and the other players, and you want them to believe that they can. With what LeBron started it almost feels like instead of trying to beat the other team he’s scouting for opposing top tier players that he can lure in. Thankfully, it seems that for the most part players are not really interested in following the example sent by LeBron.

Can we have a legitimate conversation on this topic without mentioning DAN GILBERT at all, and the role of SHITTY OWNERSHIP in the NBA

I have always said this. kG, Ray Allen all were older and got together at kind of end of their careers. And through trades they got together but KD and LeBron were weak moves. Shumpert was 100 percent right. Guys have to break it down look at the reality of Lebron's move to South Beach.

real easy to talk like that when you know you’re not getting back into the league 😭

I always said, when Lebron leaves the NBA, it will go back to its competitive form again. Cant wait for that day

finally basketball talk

Where’s the loyalty when teams trade players? Bron went to Miami to even the odds against the Celtics and Spurs. KD went to Golden State to stack the deck.

Chris and Rob underselling how great that 2013 Heat team was. You don’t win 27 games in a row unless you are an all time great team

Finally we get someone who makes the point how Lebron’s decision came back to bite him in the ass when the Warriors with KD took 2 likely titles from him. He paved the way for KD to do what he did which was to have the balls to join a team that no one wanted him to join. Lebron made it fine because the media changed up and put Lebron on a pedestal after his run with the Heat. Unfortunately, that same luxury wasn’t going to be given to KD because he is the biggest threat to Lebron as the best player in the league (Curry will be the new face of the league).

Trying to turn the argument the other way, or to talk about the way they played the game got nothing to with player empowerment. You trying to compare and make a false connection to how Lebron James went and jumped from team to team and how his teams were able to trade as many players to other teams and even talk about contracts. That's not all the media pundits did, they also downplayed Kevin Durant as not being better than Lebron James, and how he jumped from team to team, even though Lebron James started doing it first this generation and Kevin Durant fallowed. They don't mention Lebron James, they definitely mentioned Kevin Durant every chance they get.

Player empowerment ruined the NBA? Nah. You know what ruins the integrity of the game? Players not finding out that they were traded until watching ESPN or scrolling through Twitter. The hand check ban that was officially instituted in the 2004-2005. The hand check ban allowed players like Steve Nash to go from all star to MVP. The hand check ban paved the way for more perimeter play that some find boring to watch.

Miss hearing from the callers

I watched the whole interview, I’m pretty sure Shump was high.