Hifaxmen09👍 I'll pin your comment so it sits on top. These filters are dinky and I think any size larger would be an improvement. Thanks👍

@@WhipCityWrencher Yeah whip it's the same as using the 7317 in place of the 6607. Only difference, 4967/4386 use SAE threads instead metric used on 7317/6607.

@@faxmen09 Thats some good to know info, Thanks!👍

@@WhipCityWrencher You're welcome Whip! 👍

That's why I switched from the Ultra to the Titanium.😎 Wish Whip would have included a Titanium in this one also. Titanium is now the "OG" Ultra.

Thanks, Dwayne👍

Have a Great Weekend! 👍

Thanks, Ella Have a great weekend also!👍😊

Hi Scotty, Yep, everything is up there. I went grocery shopping this morning, WOW!

I think you mean "Bidenomics"

Thank joe Biden

@chrispellicci6587 thank him for why everything has gone up. It's embarrassing that we're saddled with that guy. Shame on his wife for keeping her husband with dementia in that position.

I scored a bunch of ultra synthetics on a flash sale from amazon, they were on half price so $7 each here in canada, great value there I am set for awhile

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Is all depends on application🙄Synthetic endisk are fine just look at acdelco filters or Toyota filters they don’t have no endisk or endcaps

Fram Ultra and Pennzoil Ultra... that's a winning combo. My 5.0 loves it. 😍

Friends don't let friends use Fram filters. If you hate your engine use a Fram filter

@@Tomcat71 I’ve used Fram since 1988 on my first car the VW Rabbit. Never had any issues.

You're Welcome Dennis,👍

Hi Ken, LOL Yes, TGIF 😂

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You're Welcome bud👍 Thanks!

Hi Merri, Thank You, though it's not supposed to be very nice out there, have a Great weekend also!😊

Too bad purolator switched to imported filters now....I was disappointed when I saw the pure ones are made in Korea now.

Tasty, LOL😋 Thanks Chris👍

Thanks, Charles, Yep, I still have these filters but I'll probably only compare one. You pick which one? 👍

@@WhipCityWrencher go with the orange one if you could. I’ve used the orange Fram for 20 years with out any thought in my previous John Deere LT 180 with the Kawasaki v-twin 17hp. You can mention that in the video if you wish. Gave that mower to my sister and still use orange Fram filter because I can get it at Home Depot or Walmart. It’s been a fine filter in my opinion never any issues. I use synthetic Mobil 1, 10W-30. Got about 1900 hrs on it and it starts as easy as it was new. Replaced the fuel lines, took off the hydrostatic transmission and dumped out the fluid and refilled with fresh Mobil 1, 15W-50. New belts too. My sister got one hell of a deal. Before watching your videos never gave oil filters a second thought. I find it very interesting seeing how different companies make them. I’ll probably go with the Orange Fram after the 3 year Toro warranty since I’ve had great luck with that filter over so many years. Thanks so much for making the videos. You’d be a great neighbor. PS. I was a Power Generation Mechanic in the Army for 8 years and helped the wheeled Mechanics often because they had so much work.

@@NorthlanderMN Thank You for your service!👍 Your sister did get a heck of a deal.😊 But that's what good brothers do and hopefully, she appreciates it. I'll try and make the video as good as I can and I'll keep you up to date. Thanks Again!

@@WhipCityWrencher thanks so much! Enjoy your weekend!

I'll wait till my Walmart gets all of the New filters.

Check out Cars N Toys KZfaq channel he opens up a used orange Fram oil filter and the cardboard endcaps were still in tact. Also fordboss reccomends Fram filters as well they are great

How do you feel about OE filters with no end caps altogether?

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Thanks, Jeff👍 You know I haven't seen Chuck comment for about 2 months. His comments can be entertaining at times, and something else at other times. LOL. I hope he's okay.

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Hi Dave, The Toyota filters are well made but as far as I know, the Fram Ultra has a better micron rating. You can't go wrong with either one. Thanks for the feedback👍

You're Welcome, Send me an email and I'll give you my address. Poker4me007@gmail.com

Bahahaha, always said FRAM looks like shit 🧻🧻🪠 toilet paper media & plunger ADBV 😁

Thank You!👍 I appreciate it😊 As far as subs go, the channel is growing more each day. When I first started this channel I didn't know if it would take or not. It's very hard to get started and have a good audience that keeps coming back to watch. I'm one of the lucky ones. I'm very grateful for all that watch every week and without you Guys/Gals there would be no channel. So Thank You Very Much!👍🙌

I have a video showing this Sunday at Noon, that you will not want to miss. Coincidently it's about a Bosch Premium oil filter.

😊Thanks!👍💯

Here's one --> kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l8Vop9h3xsrWnoE.html&ab_channel=WhipCityWrencher

Thanks, Clyde The Top synthetic layer (filtering side) is very soft, If you watch at the end of the video I show the two layers you can see that it's a very soft (top layer). I would take the New Endurance over the Ultra that is being made now.

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Thanks for the Canadian price info👍

walmart! xtra guard is less than 10$

Thanks👍 I think the New Endurance beats the Fram Ultra, but just below the Metal-backed Titanium. Now If they are changing the Titaniums (no wire backing) then I would have to put the Endurance on top of them all.

@@WhipCityWrencher Whip, the Fram Endurance really looks exactly like it is sourced off the identical production line as the Royal Purple oil filter. I say this from the way the media looks, but also by the 4548-12 Ascent Filtration Labs test done on the Royal Purple about a year ago, which shows the Royal Purple matching Fram's filtration efficiency claim for their new Endurance line. Fram Endurance and the clone Royal Purple are OK, but they don't hold enough dirt before clogging, and pressure drop is too much, all compared to the pink-media Fram Titanium (like the old Fram Ultra, not the the new Fram Ultra). These are NOT "big" problems though. More pressure drop just creates more & longer bypass events, not great. From Ascent Filtration's 4548-12 testing, actual valid lab engineering tests, rare to see: (summarized by user RDY4WR on Speed-Talk & bobistheoilguy) We see the old Fram Ultra pink-media wire-backed one (Fram Titanium now, for the time being anyway), always ranks in the top 2 in each important category: In order of efficiency at capturing particles 20 um and larger... #1 Fram Ultra - 99.96% #2 Royal Purple - 99.08% #3 ACDelco Gold - 96.49% #4 Purolator Boss - 61.80% #5 Wix XP - 61.61% In order of flow by pressure drop through the filter at a steady 30 LPM... (higher pressure drop = less flow) #1 Wix XP - 4.98 psid #2 Fram Ultra - 5.23 psid #3 Purolator Boss - 6.82 psid #4 ACDelco Gold - 6.82 psid #5 Royal Purple - 8.84 psid In order of loading capacity before clogging... #1 Wix XP - 18.1 grams #2 Fram Ultra - 13.6 grams #3 Purolator Boss - 12.5 grams #4 Royal Purple - 10.1 grams #5 ACDelco Gold - 9.1 grams

@@softwaresignals If I remember correctly that was an old Fram Ultra that he did a test on? Anyway, I agree I think the Fram Endurance Media is probably the same as the Royal Purple media, and probably the same as the Amsoil filter media. The New Fram Endurance filter media is nothing like any of the Fram Ultras that were ever made. Totally a different media. I'm going to compare them but It won't be for a while because just too many projects and not enough time. I think the Old Ultra was better than the Endurance but I would take the Endurance over the Ultra that they make now. Also, I want to add, the Titanium filter media is not the same as the New Ultra being made now, the Fram Titanium filter media is more like the old Fram Ultra media. Watch the video. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mpuFf7WUqLTdZXk.html&ab_channel=WhipCityWrencher

@@softwaresignals Wow nice info. Sooo in summary an engine will last more with a WIX XP if you change the oil before 5,000 miles?

@@junboo8730 Wix XP (NAPA Platinum clone) is set up like a racing oil filter: It filters poorly, but it flows well (low pressure drop) and holds a lot of dirt, and is wire-backed. Negative is that it did fail the bubble test (leaks thru the bypass IIRC) in the Ascent Filtration 4518-12 tests. Best is the Fram Titanium, which is like the old Fram Ultra. The new Fram Ultra looks decent, but is a bit unknown right now, so Fram Titanium wins about all the prizes currently. Fram Endurance (Royal Purple clone) has some negative performance attributes, but not too bad, acceptable. I think Fram Titanium makes an engine last longer since it filters best, etc., not Wix XP or NAPA Platinum.

Thanks, RJB Well you know the saying you get what you pay for and I think most of the time that applies to oil filters as well.

From what I see the cardboard end caps can loosen uo and eventually get into the system. I would say go to another brand, but the ultrasynthetic one is acceptable. The other two aren't something I would trust.

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The EG looks like the roll left on the floor & they missed the bowl when puking up before the hangover 🧻🤮🚽

🤣🤣 good one Jim, LOL

100% agree

Thanks, Ed👍

You are correct Jonathan, same as new Ultra XG media doesn't hold a candle to OG Ultra, new made in Brazil Pentastar cartridge not close to previous made in S. Korea cartridge. The bean counters at First Brands are chasing the bottom line.

Hi Jonathan, Thanks. You pick the duel. 😊LOL

You should be fine. Highway miles are the easiest on your engine, oil, and filter. IMO, a good cheap combo is Supertech FS oil with a Supertech MP oil filter. Thanks!

@@WhipCityWrencher awesome thanks!😎👍

@@joseRodriguez-pk9ld You're Welcome👍 Have a safe trip🚙

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Hi C L, Unless they changed the Fram Titanium, I think it's the same media as the Old Ultra. Check it out. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mpuFf7WUqLTdZXk.html&ab_channel=WhipCityWrencher

The endurance is frams answer for engines that need more oil flow. I guess people had to shy away from ultras because it was too restrictive for some vehicles like certain Chevy engines etc.

@@WhipCityWrencher I heard the Titanium is getting switched to the new style just like the new Ultra... :(

@@CL-yp1bs I heard that too, we'll see. Thanks!

Hi Mike, Email me in about a month, I have a lot of filters right now waiting to be opened. My Email is, Poker4me007@gmail.com

Hi Enrico, If I see it I point it out, but this being a 3-way filter comparison I have to cut some corners to make the videos shorter. Thanks for bringing that up though, sometimes I forget, but I'll try and remember to keep a close eye on that excess glue.👍

@@WhipCityWrencher Thank you for your attention

Where have you seen that test? Thanks for the feedback👍

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qNd0naar3r-5f4k.html

The exact same as they are when new, they aren’t actually cardboard. I’ve ran several extra guards, a tough guard, and a Force. Cut them all open and they all looked perfectly fine

Hi Astro, I just call them cardboard along with thousands of others because that's what they look like, Here's what FRAM says about the end caps: Quote End caps in the FRAM Extra Guard® and FRAM Tough Guard® filters are constructed from engineered fiber. FRAM has manufactured over two billion filters this way because with the plastiol glue this material allows for a superior seal with the filter media than does steel. Honda, Subaru, Bentley, Roll Royce and Nissan all use fiber end caps in OE filters. BMW, Mercedes, Porsche, GM and many others use only fleece for an end cap, and Toyota weaves the ends of the filter media together and uses no end cap at all.

@@WhipCityWrencher in my wife’s RAV4 that doesn’t have any end cap. It sucks taking the plastic thing off, It’s messier. Toyota went back to metal can oil filters again.

Hi bones, Wow, thanks for all the info. I owned a 1991 S10 with a 4.3 V6, Good engine, I wonder if they are the same?

@@WhipCityWrencher ---- basically : it has the same bolt pattern as all the other small block Chevys - it's nothing but a 350 with two cylinders cut off - literally - I had a 93 with the 4.3 that blew a head gasket at 317,000 or so miles - decided to rebuild it rather than just slap a set of gaskets on - bought a set of pistons, rings, mains, and rod inserts for a 350 v8 because they were cheaper by far than a set for the v6 - that engine also had oil & filter changes once a year - in 2008 I gave it to a guy I knew , and it had a little over 425,000 still going strong

@@bonesrhodes3762 I had a couple of the 350s back in the day, they were pretty good engines. I had one in my 69 Camaro which I had to rebuild because it spun a bearing "not the original engine", it had the 4 bolt mains, I think the guy I bought it from said it came out of a truck and a 73 Camaro which had a 307 in it and I put in the 350. Wow did it go then! Fun Days for sure. Thanks for Sharing!👍

There has to be a happy medium, that's why I wouldn't run a filter for more than your oil change, around 5K miles. 20K or 25 K is ridiculous.

@@WhipCityWrencher Totally agree.

Hi Vince, I will do a comparison in the future but I heard they are changing the Fram Titaniums (dropping the metal screen backing) so if this is true I want to wait a while and make sure.

Thanks Pete! I think either the Ultra, Titanium, or Endurance are all great filters and I would use any of them. There's just minor differences between them. My belief is that the Endurance was developed because these new direct injected engines with variable valve timing and modulated displacement are controlled by the oil and are VERY sensitive to viscosity or oil flow changes outside what they're designed for. Each Mfr has many TSB's on the subject. They tout 'flow' on the Endurance. Some of the filter brands have backed off of their mileage recommendations and instead say to refer to the manufacturer's default recommendations. Most of my cars are old and I use 3k oil and filter changes so any would be fine for me. I bought a Titanium last month and it still had the screen. Hard to read the date because of the crinkle paint. Sometime late '22. If they do change it, no reason to buy a Titanium anymore. The Endurance would be the 'Top Dog'. That single layer media isn't bad and is perfectly fine for low mile OCI. The thing about Fram that's infuriating is they have more filter 'grades' than you can shake a stick at with one minor change between them sometimes. And then sometimes, like with the Endurance, they mashup all the existing features and come up with something completely 'new'. I think they're trying to capture every possible segment of the filter market with minimal investment. Anyway, I wouldn't buy the Titanium just for the 'inlet holes'. It would be just a minor upgrade from an Ultra and not worth the price. It's OK as is.

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Thanks Robert

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Yes, I know that, I just call them cardboard along with thousands of others because that's what they look like, Here's what FRAM says about the end caps: Quote End caps in the FRAM Extra Guard® and FRAM Tough Guard® filters are constructed from engineered fiber. FRAM has manufactured over two billion filters this way because with the plastiol glue this material allows for a superior seal with the filter media than does steel. Honda, Subaru, Bentley, Roll Royce and Nissan all use fiber end caps in OE filters. BMW, Mercedes, Porsche, GM and many others use only fleece for an end cap, and Toyota weaves the ends of the filter media together and uses no end cap at all.

@@WhipCityWrencher Yes I figured you knew this Whipper.. but the problem is.. a huge percentage of your subscribers literally think these end caps are made of literal cardboard.. which would disintegrate in frying hot oil I would guess in less than a day.. These guys think it is cardboard... It would be great if you could point this out as they use this as a reason to avoid Fram. LOL

@@memopadilla5931 You know I get caught up in the cardboard endcaps and it's easy to say when doing a video. I fixed the video as best as I can. Check it out now at 4:40 . Thanks 👍

@@WhipCityWrencher Thank you for the annotation. It's quite disingenuous to call them cardboard when they are not. Absolutely nothing wrong with fiber end caps, if priced appropriately, despite what the Wix propaganda machine has claimed for decades. The OE filters for many European makes have similar or no end caps altogether.

Hi, jack The size of the inlet holes depends on the filter size. Thanks👍

@@WhipCityWrencher It was a fram ultra 3600 for a 5.3L silverado, I do my own oil changes and have never seen such small inlets holes like the one I saw at Walmart, something has changed

​@@jackfrost-fu7hz I did open up a TG3600 2 1/2 years ago, seems longer than that. Anyway, the one I opened up had good size inlet hole. Here's the video. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/i5iYp8uH2b7RfHk.html&ab_channel=WhipCityWrencher

Thanks, John Looks like you survived the St. Patricks Day Parade, festivities. LOL

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I cant say they are the worst but I'm no fan of the synthetic/cardboard endcaps either.

Thanks, Jay👍