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Antoine Dupont criticised the standard of refereeing after France crashed out of their home World Cup with a heartbreaking single-point defeat to reigning champions South Africa in Paris.
The Springboks edged an epic contest at Stade de France 29-28 to set up a semi-final showdown with England.
France captain Dupont suffered major disappointment on his highly-publicised return from a fractured cheekbone and felt substandard officiating was partly to blame.
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@Camerooonify
@Camerooonify 10 ай бұрын
Tbh as a neutral i thought the ref let a lot go for both sides to let the game flow. France lost the game on the chased down kick and slicing that kick towards end. Two huge errors.
@sbruns90
@sbruns90 10 ай бұрын
Etzebeth knock-down could have gone either way, but the main thing I think was Kwagga Smith's turnover penalty which Pollard slotted. If O'Keefe referees that as Smith not supporting his own weight - both his hands were on the ground at the ruck - then the penalty goes France's way. No guarantee of a victory but it gives France the opportunity to win it at least. Great game and spectacle but that did leave a bad taste in my mouth. I do realise that, as a French fan, I might be clutching at straws slightly but that was a big call which could have changed the outcome.
@gido.thom1
@gido.thom1 10 ай бұрын
I saw he had one hand on the ground and one around the ball Not sure about the rules tho but i understand your frustrations. Well done to your team tho. It was a 50 50 game in the end
@certificate98
@certificate98 10 ай бұрын
And kicking a 22 out on the full.
@mahaseseleso1402
@mahaseseleso1402 10 ай бұрын
The game was played at a frantic pace and an all round great show, the ref did well
@benmchunu640
@benmchunu640 10 ай бұрын
@@sbruns90 definitely not both hands on the ground mate. One was firmly over the ball and that was likely enough from the refs perspective, especially since KS was in a dominant position over the ball. Game was on the balance, and you just need to look at the low penalty count to see the ref let a lot go on both sides, probably not wanting his whistle to decide the game. Made for more of a spectacle, but think it creates more debate around consistency in refereeing.
@etiennebral1
@etiennebral1 10 ай бұрын
Hello Bokkes, as a french fan I can only admire your determination during this game. Congratulations your victory is deserved and not stolen! The level between the two teams was very balanced, it was an awesome game of rugby. Probably the best ive seen. I think there are a lot of questionnable decisions made by the referee but I want to stay worthy in the defeat. May the better team win the world cup, enjoy the rest of the competition in our beloved country and let's all appreciate a little bit more these amazing final phases!
@MrGoosey.
@MrGoosey. 10 ай бұрын
As a springbok fan i can say ur so kind
@luyandajayjonsile2545
@luyandajayjonsile2545 10 ай бұрын
❤very kind....you far better than any1 including myself😢
@loukhoum124
@loukhoum124 10 ай бұрын
As a French fan, yes there may be some suspicious decisions (ex: deliberate knock on by Etzebeth, Kolbe's block on Ramos transformation) BUT we have been bad in key moments, on up and unders and we miss some penalty kicks. That's it ! Good luck South Africa
@victordastile5204
@victordastile5204 10 ай бұрын
There were also qustionable decisions that went the Boks. Can't blame the ref for the loss.
@blizzard6741
@blizzard6741 10 ай бұрын
Fair point. But it went both ways. There were some calls, especially in the scrum that didn’t make sense. Also some French line outs didn’t look straight to me. Anyways, whichever team won I would not have complained. It was a belter of a game. Both teams deserved to win. They played really really well. I am sure France will bounce back. They are a world class team
@JerryNdururiJW
@JerryNdururiJW 10 ай бұрын
Heck! And here I was complaining that the ref was against the South African team..hmmm
@jameswyatt4443
@jameswyatt4443 10 ай бұрын
Let’s talk about DuPont getting 30 seconds to use it every single ruck.
@user-hu5xt4tq7o
@user-hu5xt4tq7o 10 ай бұрын
Actually I thought the ref was leaning towards the French. He almost looked like he'd cry when blowing the final whistle
@azurman3
@azurman3 10 ай бұрын
Sure thing, since SA players slowed down every single ruck illegally
@kevinh.1624
@kevinh.1624 10 ай бұрын
I mean yes and no.. I agree he was slow but there were several instances, especially in the second half, where he slows down precisely for the ref to notice SA player entering on the side or players on the ground intentionally not moving away as he is expecting a whistle. The ref is straight looking at it and not doing anything, but when French players did it, it was immediate whistle. I think the ref definitely didn't help France on little details like that. To say that this cost them the game, I wouldn't be so sure, but that's not what Dupont is saying either, I actually think he is quite moderate when you listen to the whole interview, they only extracted the most bitter part.
@jameswyatt4443
@jameswyatt4443 10 ай бұрын
@@kevinh.1624 When did the ref once blow for a French player in from the side? There were 6 penalties a piece, that’s sounds like a fair game. People are complaining about rucks, but France had faster ball than I’ve seen against SA. DuPont was not showing the ref anything, the Boks were absolutely legal in everything they did. You obviously just didn’t want them to win.
@hectorpierre6219
@hectorpierre6219 10 ай бұрын
@@user-hu5xt4tq7o Ta gueule, connard... Tu ne connais rien au rugby. Dupont mettait du temps car les sudafs ralentissaient illégalement la balle. Vous avez volé votre titre en 1995, vos joueurs sont chargés comme des mules, alors un peu de décence et ferme ta gueule.
@koketsomolapo3964
@koketsomolapo3964 10 ай бұрын
🤣🤣The ref killed both teams! The boks were even robbed more than the french!🤣
@christophegauducheau9027
@christophegauducheau9027 10 ай бұрын
In 1995???
@marcus-sky
@marcus-sky 10 ай бұрын
@@christophegauducheau9027 rent free in your head 🤭
@gillesaccarier6130
@gillesaccarier6130 10 ай бұрын
Nobody speaks about Kolbe? No video? The rules are clear…Ramos didn’t move forward
@alistairR235
@alistairR235 10 ай бұрын
The rules don't say move forward, it's in "any direction". Ramos starts his movement by moving slightly left and lifts his right leg, then pauses and continues his run up. Kolbe moves as he moves left and lifts his leg so it's legal. Plus Kolbe played with Ramos for 4 seasons at Toulouse, he knows when Ramos starts his runup.
@livefastdieyoung8703
@livefastdieyoung8703 10 ай бұрын
Go Springboks Go South Africa ........ Huge Fan from India ......
@mannyathabang1315
@mannyathabang1315 10 ай бұрын
To be honest referrer butched us all, if boks were the ones that lost we would be saying the same thing. France played fantastic it was everyone game. SA prevailed at the end, go Boke🇿🇦🏆❤
@FitnessAndHealthHQ
@FitnessAndHealthHQ 10 ай бұрын
Very strange how Eben was given a yellow card for the head collision, but they did nothing when Mapimpi suffered a fractured cheek bone from a head-to-head collision.
@multiBurnfire
@multiBurnfire 10 ай бұрын
Exactly, the yellow wasn’t fair
@SoulGaming-kp3cp
@SoulGaming-kp3cp 10 ай бұрын
Du toit clashed his head against danty, but video was cut during replay, so a yellow should have been given there too
@sion1677
@sion1677 10 ай бұрын
Mapimpi's clash with the other player was different, it was accidental contact, Etzebeth went in even a high tackle, it should've been a red card actually, high degree of danger there. I'm south african even though I don't like springbok supporters, because they always complain about about the ref even tho it's the team that plays kak.
@fanaticvandal472
@fanaticvandal472 10 ай бұрын
to be fair Ebens was not a head collision more like a shoulder collision
@peng3668
@peng3668 10 ай бұрын
@@sion1677is you watched the game you would see his arms were no where high enough to be high tackle. His knees were kneeling on the ground. It’s unfortunate their heads both moved to the same position and clashed.
@waltbarratt200
@waltbarratt200 10 ай бұрын
I can understand why the French are protesting, but it’s poor refereeing all the way through, it’s just not there turn today same for Ireland
@jonbrons5494
@jonbrons5494 10 ай бұрын
As a neutral and rugby fan from San Diego, both Ireland / NZ and France / SA , were the best rugby spectacles played in decades . I thought referees in both games were great. Pity 2 teams had to loose. Could have gone either way. But don’t blame the referees for a defeat. Not deserved and takes away from the overall fantastic games. Congrats to all 4 teams . Gladiator games !!!🎉
@ThibautLefebvre
@ThibautLefebvre 10 ай бұрын
Don't speak about something you cannot understand....
@MrLightbringer07
@MrLightbringer07 10 ай бұрын
Where is San Diego? actually criticizing the referee is meant to improve future games‘ equity. Are we going to stand by and clap when there is injustice?
@Iloverugby396
@Iloverugby396 7 ай бұрын
@@MrLightbringer07as an Irish Fan I just have to accept that the refs are human and willl make mistakes
@jayddv12
@jayddv12 10 ай бұрын
How much you want to bet that none of these French players will get penalized for criticizing the referee. When Rassie did it he got in big trouble
@connorcloete-vanschalkwyk6523
@connorcloete-vanschalkwyk6523 10 ай бұрын
Did they make an hour long video nitpicking every mistake?
@jayddv12
@jayddv12 10 ай бұрын
@@connorcloete-vanschalkwyk6523 does it matter if its an hour or 30 secs? Or does it matter that they criticizing the referee without providing data and just going by what they feel went against them? Rassie made a video with evidence for his accusations
@CaesarAntinous
@CaesarAntinous 10 ай бұрын
​@connorcloete-vanschalkwyk6523 pointing out that refereeing in rugby is wildly inconsistent, and even with TMO it's incredible how often things are conviently missed and over-looked. Refs need to either step back and let players play the freaking game or we need to have consitency in the calls being made... Not just from the ref but from the TMO as well. From my point of view in this game South Africa got called out frequently for every little mistake they made, France got away with a lot and yet the opposing team is claiming the same thing. It was a tough game of rugby and i wish we had to rely less on refs and tmo to play the game. Imo it's just ridiculous how much control the refs seem to have over the outcome of a game in the sport at the moment.
@jayddv12
@jayddv12 10 ай бұрын
@@CaesarAntinous I agree to this to a certain extent. Referees definitely need to be in the game, to control the game from becoming so brutal that it becomes a fight. But yes more times than not, there are offenses overlooked for one team but another team would get penalized for the same infringements
@connorcloete-vanschalkwyk6523
@connorcloete-vanschalkwyk6523 10 ай бұрын
@@jayddv12 Firstly, Rassie as director of Rugby should never have made that video. The head coach should front the media and point out any faults. Secondly, it is extremely easy to sit behind a desk and list all the hypothetical decisions that should have been made. The nature of the modern game is that poor decisions will go against you but ref-bashing has become a deflection method in South Africa. Galthie and DuPont are entitled to their views and everyone doesn’t have to agree.
@PamweChete2503
@PamweChete2503 10 ай бұрын
The only person more upset with France loosing was the ref. As hard as the ref tried to get France to win, the harder the Springboks had to play.
@jordipont4456
@jordipont4456 10 ай бұрын
No kidding ?
@christophegauducheau9027
@christophegauducheau9027 10 ай бұрын
It was a robbery
@tanukishinryu8856
@tanukishinryu8856 10 ай бұрын
He tried so hard to help France that he did not see both elbow to throat made by Kriel during the game. "Bad" calls were made both ways but some actions needed more attentions and needed calls (because on Kriel nothing was made)
@robinyohann1644
@robinyohann1644 10 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣 OK my dude ! Sleep tight
@hannesbornman1045
@hannesbornman1045 10 ай бұрын
​@@tanukishinryu8856you don't understand how the rules work. Its only the ball carrier that is in danger of head contact, everyone else is fair play. Thats how they blow the game anyway
@rickybarabba7866
@rickybarabba7866 10 ай бұрын
Let's be honest. The semifinals have already been played. The next two games are just a training before the final match everyone expected.
@riaanvandermerwe7171
@riaanvandermerwe7171 10 ай бұрын
How often did Dupont position himself behind the ruck without the referee calling "use it," yet every time Faf looked at the ball, he signaled the need to quicken the pace? This individual, who is 26 years old, appears to believe that his reputation as the best player in the world gives him the authority to dictate proceedings. His bitterness stems from a loss, and he must come to terms with the reality that he can't single-handedly carry his team every year. Everyone needs to step up; the Springboks played as a cohesive unit, while France did not.
@gido.thom1
@gido.thom1 10 ай бұрын
Honestly i think Ben did a decent job but it could've gone either way if 1 thing changed so lets not get cocky. France were statistically pretty dominant
@stephendoherty981
@stephendoherty981 10 ай бұрын
It was a 1 point game, ffs. Tiny margins. Bounce of a ball etc. Nothing to do with one team having cohesion. Both teams brought their A game. Great for the ages.
@victordastile5204
@victordastile5204 10 ай бұрын
​@@stephendoherty981you sound triggered. No need to swear😂😂😂
@victordastile5204
@victordastile5204 10 ай бұрын
​@@gido.thom1nothing cocky about what he said. It's his opinion you have yours.
@MegaRellik
@MegaRellik 10 ай бұрын
Kolbe.
@joehentalack2443
@joehentalack2443 10 ай бұрын
Colby interception of the French's 2 points kick was not right as he did it ,leaving his line way to soon....it should have been replayed..!!
@davidure67
@davidure67 10 ай бұрын
100%
@FlyingWoolf
@FlyingWoolf 10 ай бұрын
As a Wales fan, I thought the ref and supporting staff had a blinder
@justuraveragecunt9005
@justuraveragecunt9005 10 ай бұрын
I love how the Springboks react to situations like these. They're always stoic and say "all we can do is play rugby"
@georgebrown2963
@georgebrown2963 10 ай бұрын
Is the World Rugby Organisation also going jam DuPont, like they did with Rassie?
@wallywest9257
@wallywest9257 10 ай бұрын
The springboks got yellow carded and the french still couldn't get it done.
@EugeneHuman-kl1vc
@EugeneHuman-kl1vc 10 ай бұрын
Same on Ireland vs NZ, Ireland didn't have cards yet they lost. Teams must be able to grind it out and win, even if they lose 1 or 2 players. You can only do it if your depth is upto par.
@joshuataylor3550
@joshuataylor3550 10 ай бұрын
The ref let them cheat at the ruck repeatedly for the entire game, that helped.
@valinapanui7186
@valinapanui7186 10 ай бұрын
​@@joshuataylor3550the reff deliberately missed calls for the abs but called some soft ones for ireland
@randomlady5315
@randomlady5315 10 ай бұрын
I watched the game in a pub and everyone screamed the ref was against us, we won so we didn't bring it up, but France lost so that's that.... So I guess the ref was equally against us both so he was fair.
@EugeneHuman-kl1vc
@EugeneHuman-kl1vc 10 ай бұрын
@@randomlady5315 End of the day it's all about consistency... Yes few things might not have been "whistled" for Boks or against French team. If it's even opportunity and consistency is there, then the outcome would not change. Equal is good.
@glen1482
@glen1482 10 ай бұрын
If the ref had blown every infringement 100% to the letter of the law then the Boks would have won by more. He let a huge amount of decisions go to the advantage of the French. He was indecisive at scrum time when at least 4 penalties within easy kicking distance were not awarded and made many mistakes like when the ball hit him, Faf passing into a French player, head contact by French 15 on Bok 7, French coming in from the side and playing the ball on the ground etc etc... French are complaining about one or two decisions - lmfao. It was a great match and sour grapes will not change the result.
@mahaseseleso1402
@mahaseseleso1402 10 ай бұрын
Which decisions? I'm South African so I might be biased, but that game was tight and 1 yellow card against South Africa.
@bulltraderpt
@bulltraderpt 10 ай бұрын
You are. Etsibet should have had a yellow on the second French attack. No attempt was made to tackle or catch the ball.
@dcs4880
@dcs4880 10 ай бұрын
​@@bulltraderptYou don't understand the rules. Deliberate knockdowns are not automatically illegal. You are allowed to deliberately knock the ball down as long as it goes backwards, which it did. Most of the crowd did not understand this part of the rule. Ref explained it clearly.
@Karma-qt4ji
@Karma-qt4ji 10 ай бұрын
@@bulltraderpt He hit the ball towards his own line - the TMO checked it and agreed. To get a yellow card, you think the player should actually commit a foul?
@joshuagolan9300
@joshuagolan9300 10 ай бұрын
Guess you are going to have to wait another 4 years...@@bulltraderpt
@revolutionnow5227
@revolutionnow5227 10 ай бұрын
​@@Karma-qt4jihahaha making up lies it was knocked back. You clearly don't know rugby rules
@kabeloshikwane7671
@kabeloshikwane7671 10 ай бұрын
As a South African bloke. Ill say that he is right. The ref was inconsistent in terms of decision making. It didnt help both sides. But nonetheless it was a fair result. Both teams performed so well. I take my hat off to the french. Your time will come. Allez
@drakZes
@drakZes 10 ай бұрын
Yes, that yellow card of Etsebeth was also a bit too harsh. It looked like the other guy shouldered him. Also in many scrums we didn't receive penalties. So blaming the ref is sad.
@user-ly9gg4dc8g
@user-ly9gg4dc8g 10 ай бұрын
The Ref was absolutely sensational. Completely disagree with any negative comments directed at him. Under extreme circumstances during 80 minutes of the highest intensity , hes application was top draw. Calm, accurate, explanations both ways clear, precise and rational. Sad how spectators, coaching staff and certain players can only applaud the teams, without pointing out their own mistakes at times rather than use the referee as their escape goat to gain false affirmation from the public. Today, this referee should be applauded. Brilliant performance. One of the greatest games of rugby !!!
@kabeloshikwane7671
@kabeloshikwane7671 10 ай бұрын
​@@user-ly9gg4dc8gI hear you. And also human error is apart of sport. What the springboks showed was that you have to keep playing the game regardless of what decisions made. It's on you at the end of the day. But again. Mistakes should never be ignored by a professional. We must point them out to make them even better.
@johnegan9521
@johnegan9521 10 ай бұрын
@@user-ly9gg4dc8gwell that is way over the top. This is what top refereeing is expected to do, they don’t just choose some random person from the crowd and say “hey, you be referee” this referee missed crucial calls that was magnified further by not being picked up by the video assistant. He missed a couple of knock ons that were in penalty kick position and missed an absolute crucial South African turnover when the players hands were clearly on the ground beforehand before going back on the ball. And finally declerk should have been yellow carded after intentional tackling in an clearly offside position which could have prevented a France try. The game is fine margined as it is, bad decisions like this are absolutely crucial.
@johnegan9521
@johnegan9521 10 ай бұрын
And also, every Scrum took an hour to set up. Especially towards the end, stopping tbe clock after 30 seconds had already passed doesnt take back the time
@nicolasnaude-im3wc
@nicolasnaude-im3wc 10 ай бұрын
hah every team makes fun of sa complaining about the ref until they feel it happened to them
@Justin-gm2fi
@Justin-gm2fi 10 ай бұрын
Exactly, But as an SA supporter Ben O Keefe should do the rugby world a favor and retire, the guy has no clue how to officiate at the breakdown.
@nicolasnaude-im3wc
@nicolasnaude-im3wc 10 ай бұрын
yeah I agree him , renal and peyper must go@@Justin-gm2fi
@iancoulton141
@iancoulton141 10 ай бұрын
Such a shame to criticise the referee for a narrow defeat. Accept the defeat and wonderful game with good grace
@robinyohann1644
@robinyohann1644 10 ай бұрын
Durong the press conf. Dupond said that SA team deserved their victory since they played verry well. Then he said that his criticism of the arbitral Corp do not excuse the french loss. However, and this is evryone's right to question it, he said than in his opinion the réf. Was not up to the game. This is a little bit different
@kuligan015
@kuligan015 10 ай бұрын
Just look the referee mistakes...
@pietbliksem
@pietbliksem 10 ай бұрын
I don't think a single Springboks supporter didn't, just like me, see our team going down to this most incredible onslaught by arguably one of the best and most on form teams I have ever seen us play against. From the first second France piled on the pressure and intensity and the Springbok's slow poison' didn't seem to take at all. It felt like we were at any moment going to go down from this immense onslaught. I still don't quite know how the Bokke managed to stay together and successfully play catch-up, but there seemed to be a strange calmness about their act that I definitely wasn't feeling. This was a massive game and it will keep resonating with me for ages to come, but for the drop of bitter gall in our sweet cup of victory, France and SA should not have ended up in the same pool. Someone deserving was always going to have to fall out in the quarters while other pools had much easier runs. Obviously I'm not maligning any of the other teams efforts as they all had their own challenges to overcome and both England and Argentina overcame immense odds to make their achievements. I firmly believe that every player chosen for this grand tournament has earned his place in the sun and his opportunity to shine. However I can't help but feel that whomever worked out the permutations of the pools must have known what they were doing, and it was intended that an undeserving team should have to fall out. Sadly this was France. The dice could easily have fallen differently and we would have been crying today. In my book France should also have gone through to the semis, they definitely deserved to.
@guillaumeraux
@guillaumeraux 10 ай бұрын
Respect from France! Your guys were immense. What an amazing game. Well played and good luck!
@perrynnlynch1883
@perrynnlynch1883 10 ай бұрын
Well broken down. Well said and great comment.
@Altermundo38
@Altermundo38 10 ай бұрын
Better team lost. And SA criebabies fans won thanks to the ref they always complain about. What a joke this world cup have been.
@Evan-fr6dv
@Evan-fr6dv 10 ай бұрын
Sour grapes. We don't lose to France in world cups. End of story.
@Altermundo38
@Altermundo38 10 ай бұрын
Sure. Enjoy you fake ass trophy boy. We keep our pride. You keep living in your delusions and your shithole country. And everyone is happy.
@elpass8388
@elpass8388 10 ай бұрын
Next time we might as well leave the Anglo-Saxons to themselves and things will go faster... You're tired of being systematically robbed by the refereeing at each World Cup ( 1995,2007,2011 ). Courage blues 💪🇨🇵🐓
@jacquesventer3170
@jacquesventer3170 10 ай бұрын
2007, didnt France beat the All Blacks with a forward pass?? LOL
@trimad6128
@trimad6128 10 ай бұрын
Cueto try 2007 we were robbed😁
@andreistan5497
@andreistan5497 10 ай бұрын
The problem with the French is that they lost and they blame the referee for it. One must understand their grief. „Rouspeter” is always at the rendez-vous when they are on the loosing side. Too bad !
@jajeur4729
@jajeur4729 10 ай бұрын
Come on South africa is also blaiming the ref when they are lossing just remember the last match in 2022 against France complaining abour a red card as one of your player almost broke a french player skull
@johnmitchell2269
@johnmitchell2269 10 ай бұрын
I thought the ref was excellent tbh. Very clear with his communication, clear with his decisions, no bias, made sure everyone knew what he expected. Maybe too many resets with regards to set scrums, but he wanted them to be right. Just France being sore losers. While I'm here, what about every France fan booing when Pollard was taking a penalty kick? What happened to being silent for every kick at goal? No dacorum or respect for other teams.
@kidMclean
@kidMclean 10 ай бұрын
Some times decisions fall on your side and Some times they dont... I remember times when the boks were kicked out of world cups because of similar circumstances. I will say though when one of the best kickers in the world is charged down by one of the shortest players on the field you cant say you lost by 1 point because of the reff.
@billstrzempek7045
@billstrzempek7045 10 ай бұрын
No but you can say that the charge down should have been reviewed in video reply to confirm where and when he started his charge.
@WayneRademeyer
@WayneRademeyer 10 ай бұрын
It checked by the TMO
@peng3668
@peng3668 10 ай бұрын
@@billstrzempek7045same for the charge down by France. So many lenient calls for France but you don’t see South African players disputing the score of that game being due to the ref’s calls.
@wesleyadie5210
@wesleyadie5210 10 ай бұрын
@@billstrzempek7045actually it was reviewed by the TMO!
@JohnSmith-xx9th
@JohnSmith-xx9th 10 ай бұрын
It’s ALWAYS the losing team that bitches. They’re looking for an outlet for their sour frustration.
@georgesweeney4171
@georgesweeney4171 10 ай бұрын
The ref was nuts. He couldn’t get eny help from the TMO making the wrong decision and it’s been played on the big screen. The ref team should go under review in fairness some really bad calls
@SAnd-pd1ou
@SAnd-pd1ou 10 ай бұрын
I like SA but as a neutral ref had a shocker. At least 3 pens in final phase....but SA were victims of dreadful referring the against Ireland..so swings and roundabouts
@britishpatriot7386
@britishpatriot7386 10 ай бұрын
Bullcrap you liar
@JamesGats286
@JamesGats286 10 ай бұрын
I’d hate to be a ref nowadays, especially in a World Cup. I seem to remember everyone around the world taking the high road and criticising rassie when he highlighted inconsistent referee decisions. Now the shoe is on the other foot and that’s all everyone focuses on.
@feral_orc
@feral_orc 10 ай бұрын
because Rassie has whipped up a lot of vitriol in the past by aggressively attacking referees decisions. Which lead to death threats. So yeah, there's a line that he absolutely crossed.
@StinkingBishop
@StinkingBishop 10 ай бұрын
Don't blame Rassie for other idiots taking it too far I.e. death threats. That is not on him.
@SoliDGlo
@SoliDGlo 10 ай бұрын
We can argue and complain about refs until the cows come. But the reality is both teams must make use of every opportunity to shut down the other side. Kolbe didn't leave it to chance and got the charge down that if ramos didn't take so much time could have won the game for France. That conversion was in their hands and no one else's.
@davidure67
@davidure67 10 ай бұрын
He ran way before Ramos moved. Mattch officials were woeful.
@johnpaulreed4862
@johnpaulreed4862 10 ай бұрын
What has surprised me is how many forward passes have been ignored.
@johnegan9521
@johnegan9521 10 ай бұрын
Definitely but i think thats been a case since before the world cup this year especially. Looks to me like if it looks any way flat, they give the benefit of the doubt because even if the referee misses it, the tmo definetly should be picking it up
@KissellMissile
@KissellMissile 10 ай бұрын
Because they weren't forward.
@johnpaulreed4862
@johnpaulreed4862 10 ай бұрын
@@KissellMissile they even highlighted as forward on the t.v
@philipwilson3430
@philipwilson3430 10 ай бұрын
Yep, in every game.
@ckromuluss11and89
@ckromuluss11and89 10 ай бұрын
ref was actually pretty good , which hasnt been said a lot this world cup
@jesseferguson4269
@jesseferguson4269 10 ай бұрын
Refs in the bigger games have been consistant about letting the games flow and there are obviously orders from upstairs to do anything to avoid red cards which is fantastic. The fijian player yesterday would have recieved a red card had it been group stage game i suspect.
@user-ly9gg4dc8g
@user-ly9gg4dc8g 10 ай бұрын
Very good
@Dave_T1000
@Dave_T1000 10 ай бұрын
100% you don't have a great game of rugby with out the ref doing hi job
@ndlangamie2495
@ndlangamie2495 10 ай бұрын
Actually the ref was trying so hard to give this game to france
@pixelpotato4874
@pixelpotato4874 10 ай бұрын
"England to avenge their defeat in 2019" Um...no😂😂😂
@jamesgiles863
@jamesgiles863 10 ай бұрын
no we will avenge our defeat in 2007 🤡
@johnegan9521
@johnegan9521 10 ай бұрын
South African style will actually suit this particular England team, its the expansive rugby that they struggle with.
@williambailey9378
@williambailey9378 10 ай бұрын
The ref was superb , France lost by 1 point in probably the best game seen for years 👏
@pedrorivera8255
@pedrorivera8255 10 ай бұрын
Let's keep rugby clean. Don't start blaming the ref when you loose. "This is not soccer. Watch it." Nigel Owens
@feral_orc
@feral_orc 10 ай бұрын
"if the rules of the sport were observed properly by the referee, the outcome of the match would have been different." If you can't say that, then who is there to hold them accountable? There are rules in the game for a reason, them not being upheld should be talked about.
@kgotsomaphike8132
@kgotsomaphike8132 10 ай бұрын
Sour grapes. The ref let the game flow and was lenient to both sides.
@user-if7oj6cb5o
@user-if7oj6cb5o 10 ай бұрын
Sore loser a proper professional is always graceful in defeat. They never try to find excuses and blame. Swallow it and accept results don’t always go the way we want. Man up and forward we go💪🏿💪🏿 good luck springboks
@user-lh7lr4yv5j
@user-lh7lr4yv5j 10 ай бұрын
I thought ben o keefe did a good job made a few mistakes on both sides should have given boks a penalty when we we were on their line at the end that french guy was offside if france had got a penalty from their last attack it would have been a travesty of justice the boks are always gracious in defeat cant always blame the ref he is human can anyone on this site do better i know i cant france didnt take their chances thats why they lost not because of ben o keefe he is one of the younger and better refs he let the game flow and warned the players often to prevent penalties well done ben
@imafrican2822
@imafrican2822 10 ай бұрын
DUPONT IS RIGHT the ref had bad calls on the bokkes and yet we won games game and we won that game
@sibusisomgenge8970
@sibusisomgenge8970 10 ай бұрын
Problem with having a baby as a captain..lack of class
@feral_orc
@feral_orc 10 ай бұрын
why is Rassie in charge of all SA rugby then?
@selfcare-plus
@selfcare-plus 10 ай бұрын
No Dupont. This was a tough game and anyone could have won. Do NOT blame the ref. Just remember. France had 10 min to get ahead playing against 14 Boks. In that period, you only scored the penalty awarded at time of yellow card against Boks. Do not blame the ref that France could not score against 15 for the rest of the 70mins. Unfortunately, only 1 team can win, and it was not France. Just accept you gave your best and contributed to a superb weekend of excellent rugby.
@HM-mw7cg
@HM-mw7cg 10 ай бұрын
France were great but I have never seen a team defend so sleekly like the Boks did. They were being hit with relentless attack after attack, including blistering well rehearsed plays, yet the Boks looked so comfortable playing out deep in their own half, making trying saving tackles, turning the ball over and then calmly setting up clearance kicks. I’m a neutral, but it was ridiculous to watch a team so calmly deal with all that. And then in attack France had no answer for SA wingers’ pace or Etzebeth’s brute force. Fully deserved the win. France had some dodgy calls go their way against New Zealand, not to mention lucky bounces of the ball, so these things come and go, they can only blame themselves about that blocked conversion and other, admittedly very few, handling errors.
@kidMclean
@kidMclean 10 ай бұрын
Well said sir 👏 👍
@mr.meeseeks3074
@mr.meeseeks3074 10 ай бұрын
That blocked conversion was illegal but ok
@Skyline68230
@Skyline68230 10 ай бұрын
@@mr.meeseeks3074 Let him be. When France won against All Blacks, it was lucky and there were tricks. But SA winning against France ? Well of course it is logical, it was forecasted, there were far superior...
@HM-mw7cg
@HM-mw7cg 10 ай бұрын
@@Skyline68230 not at all superior. SA relied on grubber kicks that had to bounce up kindly for their wingers. But France were by no means that superior to the all blacks for that whole game and the all blacks wasted a couple opportunities. So I didn’t buy the French dominance narrative after that game. A lucky bounce, a NZ side without Cane, J Barrett and Frizell and a couple others who they had expected to be available, France were facing a virtually full strength and prepared SA. Stop crying tears of entitlement
@Skyline68230
@Skyline68230 10 ай бұрын
@@HM-mw7cg No French said France was that superior to the All Blacks, it was a difficult game. Actually I even think All Blacks were better than France during the 1st half, but France turned the game around during the second. Arrogance is certainly not a French trait in rugby, however in the southern hemisphere...
@JohnyTuff1
@JohnyTuff1 10 ай бұрын
Not a good look for the captain to blame ref after a loss. I thought Dupont was classier than this, no humility. Referee did a great job.
@girlchelseabaxter7282
@girlchelseabaxter7282 10 ай бұрын
They just can’t handle the loss.. French media were lacking humility underestimating SA team.. and now they are looking for some reasons to justify their loss instead of admitting SA was better on the field..
@youya5458
@youya5458 10 ай бұрын
What team got a yellow card? DuPont should have played and lead his team better. France mainly lost because of kicking mistakes, the scrum and they got tired at the end. DuPont should have led the attack better, they couldn’t score or put pressure on at the end.
@chaddegaulle
@chaddegaulle 10 ай бұрын
since when a headbutt is only a yellow mate... should have been a straight red.
@deongalvin950
@deongalvin950 10 ай бұрын
​@chaddegaulle it shouldn't have been a yellow to start with, it's rugby, the french lowered himself into Eben, what should he do? The ref helped french so much and they still couldn't beat the boks lol
@Plbbbb
@Plbbbb 10 ай бұрын
The yellow card should have been red, you don't hit the head!
@deongalvin950
@deongalvin950 10 ай бұрын
It shouldn't have been a yellow card even, it's rugby, French are sore losers, the referee helped the french so much specially the last 5 minutes but the boks are just to good
@fanaticvandal472
@fanaticvandal472 10 ай бұрын
watch again, head to shoulder and there was mitigating circumstances, you are wrong
@BoereViking
@BoereViking 10 ай бұрын
Two of his mistakes cost the French two tries... Weak leaders blame others, especially when their mistakes cost their team.
@wihangrobler
@wihangrobler 10 ай бұрын
Everyone saying SA is sour towards refs, no evry top team that loses does the same and get away with it???
@barrysheridan9186
@barrysheridan9186 10 ай бұрын
Good luck to England. I do not really expect them to beat SA, but all credit to the players and coaching staff for making the most of their chances. Yes they had a favourable draw, but after a difficult build up it would be unjust not recognise how well they have done.
@MatthewChapmanYT
@MatthewChapmanYT 10 ай бұрын
Favourable draw? The team they beat in their pool with 14 men…. By 3 clear scores ….are in the semi finals …… Englands group is actually the best. No other group has produced two semi finalists
@hapeta24
@hapeta24 10 ай бұрын
@@MatthewChapmanYT are you stupid? they had the weakest teams on their side of the draw
@donovan7177
@donovan7177 10 ай бұрын
From a Bok supporter - don't count England out. A lot of people are doing that including my fellow South Africans). I believe it is going to be close
@user-ks5sr3gp7n
@user-ks5sr3gp7n 10 ай бұрын
We got totally smashed by the referee… look at the highlights and judge for yourself… honestly, France, even with some little mistakes should have won the game.
@doug8515
@doug8515 10 ай бұрын
Lol
@feral_orc
@feral_orc 10 ай бұрын
gracious in victory indeed
@gandigooglegandigoogle7202
@gandigooglegandigoogle7202 10 ай бұрын
as a neutral i want to say that as long as 99% of referees are Anglo-Saxon, rugby will be biased....it's the only sport in which we can see this....Would the Anglo-Saxons accept that 99% of the referees are French-speaking? from Quebec, belguim, Swiss or whatever...I do not think so. And I'm not blaming anyone, it's simply human...we always get closer to those with whom we identify the most. humm...On the other hand, you should present Kolbe at the Olympic Games....by doing the calculation frame by frame, he is faster than Hussein Bolt! ....outstanding!
@thugtrippin
@thugtrippin 10 ай бұрын
Classless. This isn’t how true greats act. You play the game. You have some dignity.
@nicobr00
@nicobr00 10 ай бұрын
I don’t want to sound bitter and moan about the ref, but I’m going to anyway
@benayrampurtab7406
@benayrampurtab7406 10 ай бұрын
When France were leading at halftime and playing against 14 men South Africa they let the game slip, France did not score any points when South Africa were a man down. Don't blame the referee for your own shortcomings,
@Kansaidorifuto_
@Kansaidorifuto_ 10 ай бұрын
I feel that we are more than legit to cry when a ref refuses to use the video, he made some mistakes that arguably costed us the game. That being said well played to both team, great match
@johankotze727
@johankotze727 10 ай бұрын
VERY strange that you can't find the head on head contact to Duane Vermeulen anywhere online. But thats how it goes when you play the french in france. So we move.
@johankotze727
@johankotze727 10 ай бұрын
Also we had to send Mapiempie home due to head on head contact. Strange no yellow card was issued then. Im not complaining because thats rugby. But some things goes for you, some against you. In that game not once did the tv show any mistakes made by the french, it just kept showing errors by the boks. The ref cannot just look at the screen if the screen only shows one teams errors. I think O'keef made a conscious decision to not look at the screen during the game and dude must have had balls of steel with the amount of booing he received from the french crowd. I think he let the game flow and didnt try to be the main player in the game. This game wasn't won on reffing decisions, the springboks just scored more and where better on the night. I also don't think there is any other team in world rugby that would have been able to live with that french side last night. So big big respect for that.
@marcus-sky
@marcus-sky 10 ай бұрын
French crybabies 🥴
@pauljansen6650
@pauljansen6650 10 ай бұрын
Let's talk about the 4-5 scrum penalties that weren't given to SA that were very clear...a potential 9-12 points that were in kickable positions.
@tonyalways7174
@tonyalways7174 10 ай бұрын
Sore losers never look good.
@wombat9504
@wombat9504 10 ай бұрын
DuPont please what a message sending to the children? France loss for referee’s mistakes? Referee’s mistakes are part of the game , you know that and you didn’t enough, was your responsibility. Please respect South Africa, respect Rugby, respect Rugby’s fans.
@feral_orc
@feral_orc 10 ай бұрын
Then get rid of Rassie
@CarlosContreras-no9fl
@CarlosContreras-no9fl 10 ай бұрын
@@feral_orcjustificando el mal ejemplo, estamos hablando de la conducta de uno de mejores jugadores del mundo y capitán de Francia. Se parece a Messi insultando llamado “Bobo” a rivales . Concuerdo que no es buen mensaje a los niños
@joelsanford
@joelsanford 10 ай бұрын
What a disaster for RWC to have Ireland-AB and France-SA as quarterfinal matches, these should have been semi-final matches at least. Time to fix the pool draw timing!
@emilem12
@emilem12 10 ай бұрын
In the end the 4 best teams got to play each other and we just enjoyed the best weekend of rugby I have ever seen. I get the semi finals argument but now the top teams get to play “easier” competition before the final which will be massive. When I say easier, by no means do I think it is a lock for SA or NZ, but having two weekends in a row like this one would be tough to do.
@markrobertson1116
@markrobertson1116 10 ай бұрын
I wholeheartedly disagree with this and feel like it's only coming from people who wanted an easy way in to the semi-finals. I don't see a difference of when those matchups are played in knockout rugby, you have to win them all to advance regardless.
@feral_orc
@feral_orc 10 ай бұрын
@@markrobertson1116 yeah but usually you play the better teams the later you get. Not play the worse teams
@colinmitchell3213
@colinmitchell3213 10 ай бұрын
I think that the only way to 'fix' it is to have at least another 4 teams in the world cup so hat there can be another pool. In years to come as it gets closer & closer at the top though, what do you do? Even now 8 of the 16 teams are pretty close to each other.
@antoinepuel591
@antoinepuel591 10 ай бұрын
From a french fan, the ref was not so bad. The interception of etzebeth, from a frencv is going forward but for south african is going backward. I have to admit that 98% of referees whistle this but we were unlucky yesterday. There could had penalties for France but for sa too. The major error was to allowed the Kolbe stop on Ramos because he clearly started before. It was 2 points. We dont know if he would have succeed but 2 points will have done the difference. Anyway it's a deception but man there are lot of things most important than rugby world cup in the world. Everybody relax. Congratulatiosn Sa, amazing team and good luck
@gibbogle
@gibbogle 10 ай бұрын
That knock-back was brilliant, and legal.
@antoinepuel591
@antoinepuel591 10 ай бұрын
@@gibbogle wasnt
@wesleyadie5210
@wesleyadie5210 10 ай бұрын
@@antoinepuel591the ball went backwards from Ebens hand, so therefore NOT a knock on, thus it is fully legal. And the TMO reviewed it. So don’t blame the referee.
@antoinepuel591
@antoinepuel591 10 ай бұрын
@@wesleyadie5210 if you saw what happened on kolby vs ramos, i dont trust the TMO. And i dont even talk about du toit vs danty which the images were cut just before the contact. It was a head contact, and should have been red card and penalty. And the last penalty for SA was in fact penalty for France. Sorry i dont trust TMO
@buchlingwpj
@buchlingwpj 10 ай бұрын
That quote shows how media twists the full story to sensationalize topics. I think the coach and the captain were very reasonable in their post-match interview considering they just lost a MASSIVE game.
@dermotoconnell2919
@dermotoconnell2919 10 ай бұрын
Etzebeth should have been yellow carded for the deliberate knock on and the winning penalty was clearly a mistake. France are correct in feeling aggrieved
@Andy-bf8os
@Andy-bf8os 10 ай бұрын
It didn't go forward off etzabeth, kwaaga Smith won the penalty for Pollard to kick over, don't know what game you watched or if you know rugby law
@abs1784
@abs1784 10 ай бұрын
The ref let alot go for both sides. Both sides got 50/50 calls. France lost due to there own errors. To many errors from them cost them the game. Dw france ab's will become 4x champion's
@colinedwards7367
@colinedwards7367 10 ай бұрын
Ben O'Keefe is not up to standard and I really do not understand World Rugby - his favourite phrase is "I did not see that".
@Centre14
@Centre14 10 ай бұрын
Right. If he didn't see it, he should ask the TMO to review it and not make excuses. Kiwi c*nt is obviously match fixing.
@96wtfomg
@96wtfomg 10 ай бұрын
Refereeing has been inconsistent throughout the tournament, not against France. And I must say, if anything I felt some referees were slightly swayed towards northern hemisphere countries if anything
@woesmevrou5673
@woesmevrou5673 10 ай бұрын
Agree. Aaron smith yellow card against Wales, no action against Owen Farrell against Fiji. All Blacks dealt with 2 yellow cards, Fiji has two, I think, and Boks had the one that seemed questionable. None handed out to England or France.
@hlempheabielsemelane3358
@hlempheabielsemelane3358 10 ай бұрын
Others will be blaming the ref this coming weekend
@engeliminnie2326
@engeliminnie2326 10 ай бұрын
The referee was definitely on the French-team side, if you look at the last 5 minutes where the France pulled down the scrum 2 times, it was suppose to be a penalty kick for SA which would have resulted in SA winning them with more points instead of one. There is many more instances where the referee was definitely on team France and not SA. For example the one where the one player from France was off-side and in the way off play, that resulted in Faf de Klerk accidentally bumping the ball on the off-side player- the ref definitely made a very unfair call there because had it not been for that maybe SA would have scored another try because they were so close. But needless to say that was one nail biting game, I am so sad that this was not the finals. France was an amazing team in my honest opinion at times they were better than SA, they had way more possessions of the ball and once they have the ball they are so quick on their feet and their execution is flawless when they try. But in the end SA was the better team and definitely gave it their all and I am looking forward to the finals where it’s hopefully SA against New Zealand. It’s just sad that the France and Ireland is the underdogs of this worldcup, they both deserve to be placed higher. Both teams where excellent!
@gchelem
@gchelem 10 ай бұрын
Hope you lose to English and are robbed like we were cheating SA
@Skyline68230
@Skyline68230 10 ай бұрын
The scrums weren't pulled down by the French, that's your interpretation. For the ball of de Klerk on the French player, the French was way off the scrum not disturbing it, the ball was perfectly playable and the French didn't engage the game right after (which would have made him off side). Many, many rucks were defended from the sides by SA. Kriel puts his forearm in the head of Dupont to avoid his tackle, Du Toit which puts his hand in the head of Penaud. Kwagga smith unlawful fetch in the French ruck at the 69', Etzebeth head on Atonio which could have largyly been a red card as the tackle is very much controlled by the Bok. I won't say SA don't deserve it, they are extremely strong and I expected a hard encounter and them to go very very far in this world cup. But saying the referee favoured France more than SA, I'm sorry but that's bad faith at great levels ! Anyway it will be an All Blacks/Sprinboks final with one of them having a 4th title.
@hapeta24
@hapeta24 10 ай бұрын
The scrum calls often come from the assistant referees as the mischief often happens on the blind side , so not just the referee.TMOs must see a lot from the top view as well.
@goatsun1300
@goatsun1300 10 ай бұрын
"the referee always helps the strongest team" Sun Tsu
@christophegauducheau9027
@christophegauducheau9027 10 ай бұрын
Lol 14 to 0 and refree décide no 7 to 7 it was robbery
@TchimbeRaid972
@TchimbeRaid972 10 ай бұрын
Strongest not the best.
@douglasdejager8450
@douglasdejager8450 10 ай бұрын
What about the calls against the Boks????????
@FREDERIKSX
@FREDERIKSX 10 ай бұрын
As a French , I’m disagree with him . SA won fair and square , congratulations to them
@Aspett0
@Aspett0 10 ай бұрын
As a French, I do agree the ref made a couple of very dubious decisions (not seeing Etzebebeth's knock-on leading to a SA try in the following phase and being okay with Kolbe's block on Ramos' transformation despite his initial position) but on the whole, even though we dominated the game we were not clinical enough. SA took advantage of every crumb we gave them, we made too many mistakes to win at this level and most of our guys on the bench, I'm sorry to say, weren't good enough. It was a heartbreaking game because les bleus gave it their all and then some, but SA didn't steal anything. So good luck for the next game and please, kick the brits out for us, they're getting a little too cocky ;)
@fitzerelli1
@fitzerelli1 10 ай бұрын
We are not too happy with the ref against new zealand either.😢 But what can you do? The draw has favoured some teams, but not the teams that were meant to be favoured.
@GAPF39
@GAPF39 10 ай бұрын
that forward pass for the try was a sickner... not much you can do now. Agree with whoever said it about the TMO's pretty much a waste of a wage through the whole competition
@johnegan9521
@johnegan9521 10 ай бұрын
Yep, NZ second try was a forward pass
@AliG-yu2bn
@AliG-yu2bn 10 ай бұрын
people still don't understand the rules of what constitutes forward .
@6fucyoutube
@6fucyoutube 10 ай бұрын
Argggghhhhhhhahahahah
@wanawilson9152
@wanawilson9152 10 ай бұрын
What about those 2 yellows nz got , and ireland still couldn't win , And also 1 of those yellow cards was 50/50 call ie the Aaron Smith knock down , but nz still won , come on stop blaming the ref ireland got beat by a better team , game over .
@asandamabanga9246
@asandamabanga9246 10 ай бұрын
Max verstappen plays rugby now😂
@kromkindkaroo
@kromkindkaroo 10 ай бұрын
Favoured? Brah, the referee literally was in the way of South African play, gave Baile a try when he didn't even cross the line, ignored all the French obstructions especially in the last 15 minutes and constantly blew "knock backward" as if they were knock-ons. Dupont, you were unlucky and that's basically it. Sorry it sucks but it isn't true.
@jab-gn3sw
@jab-gn3sw 10 ай бұрын
The referee was good & unbiased, sour grapes by the french is nothing knew!
@michaelmcmahon3436
@michaelmcmahon3436 10 ай бұрын
I’m a neutral and I thought he was very poor
@owena1846
@owena1846 10 ай бұрын
*new
@tommyrobbee1136
@tommyrobbee1136 10 ай бұрын
Yeah English players taking off their silver medal in 2 finals is better than Dupont complaining for the 1st time in his career. Thanks for the joke 😂
@Canvashed
@Canvashed 10 ай бұрын
​@@tommyrobbee1136like the ABS in 95 😂 I thank you.
@KyrieKarena
@KyrieKarena 10 ай бұрын
​@@michaelmcmahon3436south Africa got a yellow card
@gibbogle
@gibbogle 10 ай бұрын
It must be very hard to ref these games. Of course refs make mistakes, and each side sees only the calls that go against them.
@phindiweb7688
@phindiweb7688 10 ай бұрын
Antoine Dupont : "I don't want to sound bitter , moaning about the refereeing, but........" South Africans: "Then be quiet my guy and sit down" 😅😂
@parisgaming2345
@parisgaming2345 10 ай бұрын
Me : SHUT UP WITH YOUR BASHING
@riverwolf654
@riverwolf654 10 ай бұрын
The English referee was a disgrace in the Ireland match also. He kept giving penalties against Ireland even when they were pushing NZ in the scrum
@aimhigh3701
@aimhigh3701 10 ай бұрын
England have had a very easy ride to the semis…😊
@jackiemarais4667
@jackiemarais4667 10 ай бұрын
nope bokke gonna steam roll u guys
@glennborrageiro6257
@glennborrageiro6257 10 ай бұрын
Agreed and Samoa were robbed as a South African I could accept losing to anyone but the Poms, I would have been happy for France or Ireland to get their first championship.
@Canvashed
@Canvashed 10 ай бұрын
​@@glennborrageiro6257a saffer talking about a ref robbinh 😂😂😂😂 the irony😂😂😂
@christidechattilon9111
@christidechattilon9111 10 ай бұрын
You gonna get destroyed. The English rugby team has become easy to beat.😂😂 Almost like Namibia.
@Pabloso213
@Pabloso213 10 ай бұрын
England out next game. Apparently Wales had the easiest group - Australia, Fiji, Georgia 😂. All real easy…
@olympicjbrag5913
@olympicjbrag5913 10 ай бұрын
The ref made 50/50 calls either way...but in the end, the game could have gone either way too. What an amazing game.
@christophegauducheau9027
@christophegauducheau9027 10 ай бұрын
It was a robbery it should be 14 0 at the begining of the match and it was 7 7
@joanrhodes8273
@joanrhodes8273 10 ай бұрын
Yes i agree theres always sour grapes some one has to loose ❤❤
@olympicjbrag5913
@olympicjbrag5913 10 ай бұрын
@@christophegauducheau9027 There were honestly so many calls that could have went either way. The Boks should have gotten penalties too that didnt go their way. Hi tackle on Etzebeth...Faf's pass into a French player that should have been a penalty...and several others. But in the end, the Boks capitalized on their chances...even though they had less than the French. And don't forget Colby's charge down also robbed the French of 2 points. This is knockout rugby. Overall the ref let the game flow for both sides. There was no conspiracy. Hats off to the French they pushed us to the edge.
@tanukishinryu8856
@tanukishinryu8856 10 ай бұрын
@@olympicjbrag5913the pass from De Klerk is not a penalty since he saw the French player and the player did not move. If the nine’s deliberately goes for it, it is not penalty anymore, lot of call like have already been made. Kriel goes 2 times elbow to throat, that is foul play and could have been yellow or red. On the last action the SA players were coming from the side of the ruck and let them fall on the French side of the ruck. Faf taking 4-5 seconds to leave a ruck 2 or 3 phases before they get the ball back. SA had advantage for that before Etzebeth try. The ref made bad calls on both side but the crucial ones were one sided.
@olympicjbrag5913
@olympicjbrag5913 10 ай бұрын
@@tanukishinryu8856 That player is supposed to make an effort to fall back....and why was it a turnover then? Suddenly French ball. There were many calls that could have gone either way. What's done is done. See you in 4 years.
@tonyalways7174
@tonyalways7174 10 ай бұрын
By criticising the referee Dupont lowered himself from hero to sore loser. Not a good look at all.
@KentDonaldson
@KentDonaldson 10 ай бұрын
The high ball was France's undoing. They could not get to grips with the up and under from the Boks.
@EyeInTheSkypaulmcmenamin
@EyeInTheSkypaulmcmenamin 10 ай бұрын
Well done to England, but they really need to get the head down, stay focused and hope for the best. I think the media is starting to get too excited with their chances, saying they are coming from a big losing streak, not to take anything away from them but I highly doubt they would have made it out of Pools A or B.
@doug8515
@doug8515 10 ай бұрын
England are unbeaten
@julestube2425
@julestube2425 10 ай бұрын
Longest current winning streak. All other teams at WC have lost a game. 2 teams from their pool made it to the semis so tough pool. ;) Phoning in sick next week though.
@nameless1873
@nameless1873 10 ай бұрын
I find it ironic French Pundits not addressing most of if not every other unfair calls in any other games especially by Northern hemisphere referees against Southern hemisphere teams
@matthlechevoir4643
@matthlechevoir4643 10 ай бұрын
France is not Ireland, in case you would have noticed. I personally have noticed a lot of biased decisions for them including during their match against SA. If the Sout Hemisphere seems to have this weird sense of unity when the knock-out rounds come (from what I gather in the comments), we do not have that in the northern part. So it is not surprising that France did not comment on how other northern nations may have been favoured; for a start, also because we rightly think that the referees are mostly biased towards Anglo and parent countries. This is very obvious when it comes to assessing cases post-games when the English guy (or the Barret brother for example) takes between 0 and 2 matches off, and the French guy has to be off for 6 or 8. Plethore of examples. As for this game, it is not just possible that the SA backline was constantly on the ball carrier before the ball even reached him...They were 3 meters into the French in a heartbeat. You are off-side from the moment you are in front of the feet of your last player in the mall.
@nameless1873
@nameless1873 10 ай бұрын
@@matthlechevoir4643 I have no idea what you are saying or what the point is you were trying to make including the part about if I noticed France is not Ireland I mean it’s obvious because I didn’t mention Ireland?? AT ALL ??
@JackN13_
@JackN13_ 10 ай бұрын
sooooo some are allowed to critice the ref but others are called names if they do the same lol
@DomanaxTV
@DomanaxTV 10 ай бұрын
Pathetic. You would never see Siya Kolisi say this about a ref in a conference. Ref messed things both sides, always do. They are not perfect. South africans could show you things they went against them.
@thomasprobert3290
@thomasprobert3290 10 ай бұрын
Back in 2007 when France beat the ABs a lot of things went their way, so swings and roundabouts
@Skyline68230
@Skyline68230 10 ай бұрын
And in 2011 final, a lot of things went AB way. Yeah, swings and roundabouts...
@mikev8746
@mikev8746 10 ай бұрын
If it's a close game it can fall in the hands of the refs. So if you can't handle that, don't let it be a close game. I'm also pretty sure the Boks overcame their own challenges like playing the home side and what not. So why can't Dupont overcome a couple of ref decisions?
@SpartanHighKing14
@SpartanHighKing14 10 ай бұрын
Ok Antoine, let's go there and discuss how France were lucky. 1) Springboks were camped on their 5m line, Cameron Woki is off his feet competing, and his hands were first placed on the ground before attacking the ball. Should've been a straight penalty. France win a penalty a few phases later which leads to Cyril Baille's 2nd try. Kwagga Smith won a penalty illegally in the 68th minute in the same way as Cameron Woki, and the referee never picked this up. (Woki also got away with it). So fair is fair 2) With 76 minutes on the clock Faf de Klerk passes the ball against an offside French player, instead of it being a penalty (as in literally all other games), France are miraculously awarded a scrum. Nowhere in the law book is this a rule!! Boks were on fire at this stage and should've added 3 more points minimum 3) French supporters keep bitching about Etzebeth's deliberate knock on in the 5th min, which would've lead to a try. Firstly, the ball went backwards, therefore its not a knock-on, so therefore no penalty. Yes its unsportsmanlike, but its not illegal within the laws. The same goes for Kurt-Lee Arendse's "tap back" in the 3rd minute when he knocked the ball away from Bialle-Biarry. 4) Let's stop dissecting the game, because i hate doing this. What's done is done. A team which takes their opportunities will always win. The Springboks were simply smarter than the French.
@lethabolebepe6283
@lethabolebepe6283 10 ай бұрын
what a sore loser, they can't take a loss on the chin. Kolisi spoke like a true champion and sets an example.
@zimboinkent
@zimboinkent 10 ай бұрын
Go and have a moan with Sexton mate.
@helenlizzystewart4908
@helenlizzystewart4908 10 ай бұрын
exactly
@feral_orc
@feral_orc 10 ай бұрын
go learn to be a decent human being
@mlunghisitlemo939
@mlunghisitlemo939 10 ай бұрын
He must just take the defeat with grace and learn from it . He must calm down . We won fair and square 🇿🇦🔥
@Skyline68230
@Skyline68230 10 ай бұрын
He did it. he congratulated the SA team and clearly said he doesn't know if ref decisions had any impact on the game. He accepted the defeat.
@Dave_T1000
@Dave_T1000 10 ай бұрын
I don't want to criticise the French team but I am not sure they were up for the challenge, looked absolutely clueless in the last 5 minutes
@Nature_ASMR_sounds
@Nature_ASMR_sounds 10 ай бұрын
It was a knock on by Etzebeth on a try winning pass (no, it did not go backwards), Kolbe was off his line early when charging down the kick, first time in the tournament that head on head is not red, etc etc. It's only a game but Dupont has a point. In a game of fine margins, the ref does make the difference. It's just that there were a few too many "strange" decisions.
@GerhardtRoos
@GerhardtRoos 10 ай бұрын
The head to head was not full on, it was a glancing hit, that could not have been helped. Eben was almost on his knees trying to get in under the Frenchman.
@mkuselisompeta4032
@mkuselisompeta4032 10 ай бұрын
Your analysis is biased at best
@donovanfelix9497
@donovanfelix9497 10 ай бұрын
most bias comment ever. Kolbe was fine, yellow was harsh and your comment about first time dead on head wasn't, we probably had 10 in WC so far, only one red. The ball was knocked backwards by Etzebeth, hence play on.
@ThatGuy-sw2xe
@ThatGuy-sw2xe 10 ай бұрын
“No it was not backwards”. Well, if you don’t have eyes I don’t know how you can enjoy the game.
@donovanfelix9497
@donovanfelix9497 10 ай бұрын
@@ThatGuy-sw2xe weird you follow up with a childish and stupid comment, don't know the rules, doesn't comment.
@cruzerblack8789
@cruzerblack8789 10 ай бұрын
First of all I was suprised how physical the frenchfowards were.. I totally agree with Dupont.A couple of breakdowns between 40th and 60th minute SA blatantly slowed ball down illegally. It happened at least 3 times without been penalised.Another instance Vermeulen diving over ruck and all this happened when french fowards had serious momentum.OKeefe turned a blind eye. If he rightfully penalised SA during that period, the lead would' ve grown,but because french could not score they made subs that could not bring the same physicallity the starting players brought to the game. Only then SA start domanating. Yes Okeefe also could have penalised the french player at an offside position when Faff passed the ball. I also dont agree Eben's knock down was a yellow because he knocked it backwards. But i do believe Okeefe made critical mistakes that did not favour the french. But all of this drama is part of the game. Good luck to SA.
@nox6885
@nox6885 10 ай бұрын
Accept defeat. There were calls against us too. Epic game regardless
@barrykent3013
@barrykent3013 10 ай бұрын
Shock horror losing team critizises ref hard job everyone is trying there best heart broken irish fan enjoy the sport
@olivierpujol8772
@olivierpujol8772 10 ай бұрын
Anglophone world enjoying their xenophobic moment.
@feral_orc
@feral_orc 10 ай бұрын
are you sure you know what those big words mean?
@olivierpujol8772
@olivierpujol8772 10 ай бұрын
@Andynd27 yes, as they are french words first, Mr. You had to live in both francophone and anglophone worlds as well as understand both languages sufficiently to understand this remark.
@cathalos1
@cathalos1 10 ай бұрын
Ref was ok. TMO refused to do his job, even when the stadium TV director did it for him
@michaelbaxter7452
@michaelbaxter7452 10 ай бұрын
Biased TV director showing a one sided view
@cathalos1
@cathalos1 10 ай бұрын
@@michaelbaxter7452 maybe, as is often the case with the French teams. Doesn't change the fact that the tmo refused to bring it to the attention of the ref
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