You either die a hero...

​@@michaelc.4724 It goes other way too.

I absolutely love that quote. I'm writing it down and throwing it on my cork board right after I write this comment.j

In my opinion, the Jedi were evil

@@AMPoverlord You'll find that the various beliefs we cling to depend greatly on our point of view.

That's a great story...best of luck.

I found House Atreides while i was locked up also. After fighting for weeks to get to the library i discovered it. Then shortly after i was transferred to another facility and their policy was to not let me have it. After another few months i finally managed to get it back and finish it. The book was a huge lift for my spirits! I was going to keep it with me upon release but determined that it should stay in there for people to read.

I met Herbert once. I suspect he would've been proud of you. He saw religion nd environment are tied to each other.

@@tomboughan2718 that really means a lot to me thank you so much for saying it. Im finally onto the second book now and making good progress on the property I got! Bless you.

@@marspl Congratulations brother!

Beautifully said.

You send something you made out into the world and it becomes what people further make of it 👩‍🔧🇺🇲🛠️🇷🇺

One of the core tenets of communication is understanding the flaws of perception unique to the individual.

Shut up

I wonder if anything I sent out or will ever send out, will grow or become hidden under the sands of time.⏳

that's because it's obvious. i wonder sometimes if maybe people are considered brilliant because everyone else is so blind.

@@jpenneymrcoin6851 I think it's because they care and take the time to actually look. Plus it was his area of interest.

I feel he has an advantage of seeing its affect as he lived during a time which was unpolluted by plastics, and was seeing the advent of such pollution develop during his lifetime.

I remember being taught about plastic pollution primary school in the mid 1980s. Scientists have known these environmental problems have been building for a long time but the people with the most wealth and power have the least incentive to do much about it.

There was a huge ecological push in that time. It's where earth day came about. Try not to worship heroes too much, that ultimately leads to blindly believing something without doing more research yourself.

And you know they were smoking that good spice for this interview, too😌💯

Why call it shit then?

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Ain't that the truth!

Why are you calling it shit?

@@BenVaserlanit’s a compliment.

yes!

Its been a proven scientific fact that reading something out loud helps your brain store it into memory much better than just reading it, i'm guessing since oral communication and language was a natural process of evolution and language formed organically within human civilizations whereas written language is strictly a man made construct created to try and somehow capture the spoken word in a permanent form which cannot be done, you can see this in the inability to properly translate different words and ideas between languages and some languages have such subtlety to their words and can change the entire meaning with just a slight inflection. The english language is perhaps the worst language there is for capturing emotion and nuance, it is straight and to the point and makes for a good universal language because of its lack of nuance and ease of learning but it is too stuffy and business like.

@@King_Flippy_Nipswonderful observation, I read a book, technocracy, by social critic Neil postman about the disposition of the English language as scientific, universal medium. Your comment also reminds me of the Egyptian tale as told by Greeks of king Thamus and god Thot.

Not that we ran out of oil, considering it's still being produced 50 years later.

​@@okgood8529 They didn't say anything about running out of oil. An oil crisis is an issue of price, not supply. In the 70's it was the first time many people realized that more economical vehicles could save from pennies to entire dollars, in a country where a 6.0L engine had only 80hp, eg the US. That is where the myth that Japanese cars are more economical was born (they already had electronic injection in the 70's while the US still relied on carburetors). Moreso, there is more investment in green and renewable energy than coal, oil and gas, to many people's surprise; sadly that doesn't mean the investment in fossil fuels is zero AT ALL.

Some things are better like air quality but a lot is worse. Going against the corporate world was too much for the environmental movement to succeed. The Michael Moore movie _Planet of the Humans (2019)_ pretty much says the movement was taken over by sellouts to corporations around 2000, and has since accomplished little.

​@@okgood8529are you dense? Both od these oil crisis were political

"That was hot back then, he was just thinking economically."

Never a good idea to quote ignorance to facts.

The clock ticking in the backround is rather eerie.....

@Chris Snyder : It's far worse to either deny or become wantonly ignorant of facts. Note: I am unsure (through no fault of my own) to witch comment you replied. So pardon me if my reply is misplaced.

@Giac Frank Herbert of course! An important influence was Paul Sears' book "The Living Landscape".

A time when women weren't competing against their husbands.

She was probably his alpha reader/proofreader/editor. What a great thing for a writer to be married to someone so in tune with what he is doing.

To show how much he loved her he based lady Jessica on her so not surprising

and that they cared enough to ask her to say it again into the mic

​@@EdTowel-ww7yhI guess you aren't married, please stay that way.

analog recording is superior to digital quality-wise, just not as convenient.

Also not bad from the author presumably at almost 20 minutes till 9 pm or am with the clock counting for the entire time

Not really. Its quite typical for the period. As recordings go, the hum of the electronics and the motor within the tape recorder are clearly audible, as is the his of the tape. The room in which the recording was made had excellent acustics for spoken word. A lot of the hiss could be easily removed today.

@CHIGGS 58TH Yep. A professional quality quarter inch reel to reel magnetic tape recorder was worth the same amount as as a car.

@@TheAureusPress That used to be correct but hasn't been for a couple years. Compressionless audio is possible now. It's not necessarily common because of file sizes, and no streaming service is gonna carry that, but it can be done.

100% In philosophy today, this talk reminded me of a discourse ethics philosopher, historian Enrique Dussel has theorized, ethical norms and traditions in a western world and he derives much of it from ancients civilizations and traditions of peripheral cultures. It’s also a critique of the western world and modernity with all its systems.

its pretty trite honestly. more like bad screenwriting than an actual insight. i expect a hell of a lot more out of a philosophy class

If this is the best and most important thing you got out of this there is a high probability that you're 1. a self loathing western cuck 2. some confused citizen of wakanda or 3. very stupid and biased (extra choice: all 3 of them).

@@jerkchickenblogyou sound trite. Aka, a baby

Sounds like a commie

you mean 2 days? it’s in theaters rn

Bro did you by chance record any winning lottery numbers between now and 2026?

I think he meant he already watched this video 2 years ago, and now he’s rewatching it after Dune: Part Two

@@tylerw9645 I strongly disagree mate he came from the future

dune is overrated. mcu is way better. what a trash

You’d be doing yourself a massive favor if you read the books it’s an amazing read

@@mohammedashian8094 Understatement of the century

@@jeremysears4263 I don’t think so

A timeless podcast.

the audiobook is only 18hrs longer than this, could be worth it ;)

In _God Emperor of Dune_ he says the destruction of machines in the Butlerian Jihad was as much about not treating human beings as machines. But I do like the idea expressed that says they shall not make a machine to imitate the mind of humankind.

The problem with thinking machines were that they were used by men to enslave other men, it's nothing but a tool not inherently oppressive or liberating.

really appreciate your series of videos on Dune.

I was going to ask if you watched this. Going from your series to this just blew my mind.

Of course i find you here. Love your work fam.

I was just thinking that I might find you here.

You are an amazing.

Would have probably been the perfect voice for Paulus Atreides.

I'm a fan of the writer for Dune and was sad to realize I could never meet in person but I was even happier to meet him in my mind I think =] He seemed to be open minded and cultivated, much be interesting to talk with. Thank you Frank ! May your name be eternal.

The Voice of the Original Dr. Kines.....

Andrew Kincade Kynes!

He reminds me a bit of George rr Martinin that.

It's called an interview

hardly a traditional interview

@@josephisafan How many ""traditional interviews"" from the 1960s have you seen?

you have to be kidding me @@MentalParadox

And yet the world in 1960s especially in third world countries were plagued by backward thinkings, genocides and mass killings, back when the west was the pinnacle of modern civilization as we know it today, it is not strange to find interviews like this… however strange it maybe, we seemed to have move one step forward and two steps back, the regressing nature of humanity is very concerning at least imo

It is interesting to actually hear his voice.. I wish I could have met him in person like Isaac Asimov I met him in Boston after a symposium he gave during a convention and had the pleasure of speaking one on one with him for several hours. It was a meeting I will never forget

According to an interview that I read few days ago, he liked to think that the Duneverse had several layers, and people could discover a different one each time they read hes books, depending on each one's circumstances.

Well expressed and accurate.

Zannai Face Dancer I just started rereading and agree. The last time I read it was in my teens or 20’s. Now I’m in my 40s. Then I was captivated by the excitement of the mainlines of the plot, the exhilaration of power and psychedelic insight. This time through it’s the subtle details, the warnings, the meta narratives. In general those shades of meaning I didn’t have enough life experience to catch on to when I was younger. Dune is a great work of literature that can speak to a reader at different stages of life and understanding. It is so rare an accomplishment for an author to create something like this that can unfold multiple times at different levels. We desperately need more storytellers like this.

It is prescient that the inspiration for Dune was ecology.

Soon to be learned again, the hard way, by our society.

So it goes. If it is the natural way, then there has to be a human modification to this tribal way of life that is more successful just as agriculture is compared to foraging.

Welcome to dune 2 electric boogaloo

LMAO, " you not understand " ... P A U L

Herbert is a genius but he actually gets a lot of his ideas about anthropology pretty wrong. Tribalism didn’t really come along till much later in human social development and feudalism didn’t exist till long after agriculture and sedentary farming populations. The small band society was the mode of the MAJORITY of human evolution. It would follow that we are more genetically predisposed to that kind of life which is probably why we are all so miserable.

Punch cards on the CDC6700 at the U of Washington, haha. Awesome interview. No such thing as "psychological warfare", etc.

Have you read Destination Void? It's about the deep implications of AI. Especially the potentially godlike version.

He mentions a Dump Program in Children of Dune. What is that?

What software do you write on an old IBM computer, what're the programs for, what do they do, and how is Herbert incorporated or manifested therein?

Counting down the seconds moments and on tone the hour of the author's life. Moments no one will get back. Moments which are valued thru time

Winter 1969: February

@@redteamla Summer in Australia and the Southern Hemisphere.

You can also hear Herbert doing cocaine.

The ticking of the clock reminds me of quietly reading in my grand parents house so many years ago.

Reminds me of the clock at my grandparents house when I was a kid.

And Fremen, prounced by the interviewer without correction, as Free-men.

And Kynes pronounced Keense.

With Frank's son Brian acting as a consultant for Denis Villeneuve's upcoming adaptation, no doubt will the pronunciations be correct compared to previous adaptations (Lynch's film/the SciFi Mini-Series). So excited for the new movie(s)... :)

Fabian Lelo I don't think many things from the Lynch film are misspoken, Herbert was on set for several reasons, difficult pronunciations included

unfortunately not a guide to pronouncing Oregon, thanks to the interviewer

Just found this video on 23 november, 2021. Still very actual

The ecology of laws, fiat, force, etc. Yes

If that movie got made imagine what the world would be like? We’d probably have free energy and cars that run on water

​@@D3XthaTriF3ctAI'm not sure about that. It was gonna be over six hours and not stick to the book. I think it would have crashed & burned. A streaming series could work at that length, but I don't think Jodorowsky's version would do it justice. What I would like to see is a movie or show based on his graphic novel The Incal.

⁠​⁠​⁠@@D3XthaTriF3ctAsorry but Jodorowsky’s dune is just a myth and way overrated, it would’ve been shit, you know why? Becuz Jodorowsky is good at insane acid trips doesn’t mean he can direct a giant sprawling epic, also just becuz the concept art looks good doesn’t mean that can actually translate onto the screen. Making sketches into actual models usually means they end up looking waayyyy different. Also he was wasting so much money on actors that he just thought would be ‘cool’ like Salvador Dali asking for 1,000,000 an hour on set, which is insane considering shooting one scene can sometimes take a whole day. Also mick jagger and david carradine for some reason and a bunch of strange casting choices. He wanted to make the movie 10 hrs long which is insane since he could’ve never afforded that. This movie could never have existed becuz that insane concept art could’ve never been translated to screen with such a miniscule budget in the 70s. Jodorowsky makes weird indie films, not giant epics which is why they first asked David Lean to make Dune. Why the hell r people so obsessed with this project that never had a chance of being fulfilled

​@@GuineaPigEveryday When you wrote "David Lean", did you mean "David Lynch"?

Thank you for the information.

Its called reading and research

I hope you have already read it or are encouraged to do it son, you will never regret.

oh it is so good. It may improve the very way you think. Such a great read!

Do.

Ooooohhh I really hope u read it!!

Read it slowly , many important things are hidden in subtle ways. Sometimes one short sentence reveals and entire book series written by his son decades latter. Most important: start with Dune.

Now its on the interwebs forever unless we blow ourselves up.

Thank you for updating the information, I found the Project really interesting when I read about the origins of Dune. R.I.P Frank.

Interesting from various perspectives. Herbert wrote about plants destroying the desert in the sequels to Dune. And as a Bulgarian, I see a government destroying sand dunes right now.

8:47 On subduing nature: western man is blind on his backside.

AHAHAHAHA just like in Herbert’s story with the rewilding of Arrakkis

It was the dream of the Fremen to turn Dune into a place where plants flourished and water was free, and renamed Arrakis. The crisis of the title character in _God Emperor of Dune_ dying required seeking alternatives to spice and turning the planet back into the desert planet Dune for the worms to return. I think in Washington and Oregon they are removing dams to restore rivers and their fish populations. Someone said only a small percentage

Me too!

And it can be amazing once you realize how to understand subtext better than the spoken word.

When I read in about 1970 I remember him being described as a linguist and had actually developed a language.

No. Campbell turned down the sequel 😊.....

Right. Someone said upon seeing _Dune Part 2_ that it might be this generations _Star Wars._ But I think not. I re-read _Dune Messiah_ after watching the movie and Paul admits his Empire sterilized 30 worlds, and killed 61 billion human beings. I don't think Luke Skywalker did that! I wasn't sure what term they said Campbell believed in: perhaps predictiveness? I think that's where the _Foundation_ series excelled: the science of psychohistory to predict major future change, backed up by secret agents with psychic-powers to reduce chance and make it go the way they want. He said _Dune Messiah_ saying predicting the future is a trap would go against Campbell's ideas and part of science fiction; although I don't think sci-fi really tries to "predict" the future. But in both books Paul seems trapped by having to play his part that will lead to jihad across the galaxy (or galaxies?).

Thank you for saying "requesting a pat" (as we do in Australia), rather than "to be petted". "Petting" always had sexual connotations for me and felt just ..... YUCK when used in relation to an animal.

Also like the parrot in the background (I guess it’s one?)

Could be a Futar

Edith Spencer you know if he didnt talk about it then its quite possible it wouldnt concern you today

I doubt it, what he said in the beginning, about the control of sand dune, people have been working on ecology for a long time, It wasn't trendy before, and the plebe follow the trend.... you can never seen anything or think outside of the trend. Which was always funny to people like me and Herbert, when we look around us and ask why all the plebe follow the trend and never question it.

Brian Mcbrian check our George King. He also talked about ecology around this time. Of course as a cosmic avatar who entered Samadhi and saw the Mother Earth as a living being (Goddess), he would.

Brian Mcbrian Herd instinct, safety in numbers, intectually aswell.

"That was hot back then, he was just thinking economically."

We've been hitting this planet like an asteroid. Starting with our species destroying megafauna in Australia and the Americas. There's now a term for mankind causing species extinctions: Anthropocene.

Me too just a few ears earlier.

Look at what Hitler and Goebbels did to the German population.

Funny that people would have trouble with that aspect being believable. Of course I just saw a clip from the 1984 movie and Paul use of voice to split stone is just silly.

I thought it strange that there weren't more interviews and such from 1965 to the 1980s.

The only ones I’ve been pronouncing in my head correctly are Fremen and Gurney Halleck

gene eric thank you for this knowledge

Hernán Chadtés got any proof?

Hernán Chadtés who wrote his biography? What’s it called where it says that? Bl

Hernán Chadtés No I’m trying to figure out which biography you read that states Frank Herbert was an insecure homosexual and that his wife was miserable. Yes I’ve read god emporer but I think the scene with Duncan hardly constitutes a “biography” I think you’re making assumptions

Hernán Chadtés are you referring to the part where Duncan finds out the fishpeakers are gay? That’d be a really dumb stretch if that’s what you’re referring to.

Holy shit you're right.

Richard Nixon= Frank Herbert. Frank Herbert was a speech writer for Richard Nixon.

yep.

"Go now. Take him to his desert. To die." -The Beast Rabban

Beverly Herbert was the lady Jessica.

Thats a conversation this world just isn't ready to hear. I'm sure they're having most profound exchanges on a plane above ours.

Yes, and they are huge. You can rent a Dune buggy and go for a ride. (At least you used to be able to.)

The Western world has disconnected from the natural world since the colonial empires when we decided that all of that was just resources to be exploited. In fact we’ve paid more attention to nature in recent years than the centuries we spent razing it to the ground. What the hell do u think has been happening in America since its birth every strip of land has been commoditised, and europe has done the same to all their colonies building industries of exploitation .

He won't. He made a worthy sequel to bladerunner and one of the best original sci-fi films of this decade. It's in the best hands.

I hope. This should be the soundtrack: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/d6yXrd2IuZneiGg.html

He is as a fanboy of Dune as he is of Blade Runner.. I personally think he is actually more suited for Dune... let's see what happens

Dune should never be made into a movie. The plot isn't all that interesting. It's all the philosophy, politics, religion etc that make it interesting.

@@GoDrex - The plot isn't uninteresting. It could service a movie about as well as it serviced the book. A lot of Frank's prose can be implied with cinematography and a clever screenplay.