Frank Miller's 300 - War Comics, Non-Fiction, Propaganda, and Lynn Varley's Masterpiece EPIC

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@nemobbhh294 Жыл бұрын

I wish Lynn Varley would do a Shoot Interview. She is such an important figure in the history of modern comics and yet she is a total mystery woman.

@egattignolo Жыл бұрын

absolutely. she carried dark knight strikes again even with primitive computer colors. her work on year one is tops for four color separation imo. would love to hear from her.

@rockbarcellos Жыл бұрын

Miller's art is probably one of the better examples of how expression and impact is more important for comic book storytelling than realistic precision. It's also cool to see how he mashes different influences together, from Kirby to Hugo Pratt.

@ChuckArnold1 Жыл бұрын

Great coverage, 300 is the artistic apex of Miller and Varley's years of collaboration, Miller using illustration and storytelling techniques perfected in Elektra Lives Again and Sin City, complemented by Varley's impeccable eye for color and design. This was the end of an era for Miller's most significant period(1986-1998).

@zhengistasbolatov8480 Жыл бұрын

Frank Miller directed The Spirit movie. I had a DVD of it with extras, interviews and stuff. So Franks says there, that city is vertical space, you explore it vertically. While in 300 he had landscapes, a lot of horizontal spaces, that's why he went for album format with it.

@nickjanecke6688 Жыл бұрын

The “blot out the sun, fight in the shade” line was definitely in the movie 😆

@nickjanecke6688 Жыл бұрын

The “Hot Gates” spread reminds me of the scene in The Hard Goodbye of Marv in the alley with the buildings towering over him on either side. Great use of scale and very effective minimalism.

@drawrobot Жыл бұрын

It might have been the time when Dark Horse switched over and started to overlay in Quark. I’m unsure though. It was about this time I’ve heard about that trick in digital prepress. For me, this was when I first started to compile a texture library to color my line art in photoshop.same basic technique I use to this day.

@willpfeifer3312 Жыл бұрын

Please tell me you're going to cover Holy Terror. That book is ... fascinating on so many levels. And, whatever you think of the story, some of Miller's most out-there cartooning

@brandonnhembree7439 Жыл бұрын

weirdly enough I feel like ed wont be into it but I think Jim loves holy terror but we will see

@raydillon Жыл бұрын

Man, such an achievement. I had forgotten they came out as individual issues until now, but this gave me a flashback to being in the comic shop at 16 and the owner who knew I was an aspiring comic artist saying "Hey, you should check out this 300 book by Frank Miller." I walked to the end of a long aisle, picked it up, and was blown away. I couldn't afford it that day, but it changed me as an artist. Saved up and got the hardcover and it's been one of my most important and favorite comics ever since. It's in my DNA. Shoutout and RIP to James and Collector's Paradice in Salina, Kansas for telling me about it. ALSO, I'd love to see a whole episode about Lynn Varley.

@CoachDale_TopNotchMuayThai Жыл бұрын

When the movie dropped I was obsessed with it, only movie I’ve seen 3 times in theatre. I went to Chapters and bought this after the first time seeing the movie. Still have this in my collection. It’s a awesome book 🤙🏼

@carlkligerman1981 Жыл бұрын

Yeah I came to this book via the movie too. Absolutely blew my mind, I got it on DVD eventually and have watched it stoned at least fifty times over the years. Didn’t pick up the books until I saw it on EBay a couple of years back, but I love the wide format edition comic. The ‘art of’ book is a bit meh tbh, but still, the comic itself is an absolute gem.

@CoachDale_TopNotchMuayThai Жыл бұрын

@@carlkligerman1981 Yea the art is just okay, I agree. But the story makes up for it in this one

@luisjoelsotomiranda5006 Жыл бұрын

I love the concept of double spread every page. Not My favorite Miller's work, but an epic one with no doubt.

@tjosterable Жыл бұрын

Lynn Varley shoot interview...yes please!

@withthesetwohands Жыл бұрын

I was looking at that texture mentioned at 23:00 and to me it looks like paint or airbrush thru cheesecloth or a similar material. The material itself masks out some of the paint and gives you the texture of itself in the paint that does not make it though to the paper.

@TippyToes527 Жыл бұрын

A very unique comic for sure,an operatic almost over the top retelling of a historical event with some great art on Miller's and Varley's part.I remember reading on the letter pages that Varley did paint on black lines.

@Jason-ql7wb Жыл бұрын

I think some pages looked like the black was printed on to a cell and then paint was applied to both sides of the cell.

@jasonquinones4202 Жыл бұрын

great show. always wondered about the book design element as well and wether or not the "landscape" book format was always intended for the collection. Ed was right on with the writing too! saw frank and klaus do a talk at SVA and during the question and answer period one guy was trying to call frank out on his use of historical artistic license in the writing. frank was clearly annoyed and his answer was short... "it's called historical fiction!"

@SethMcFartlane Жыл бұрын

23:11 _"It's a thing that I got from that dude, Jason Shithead"_

@carlkligerman1981 Жыл бұрын

I picked this up a couple of years back. The wide format edition is gorgeous IMO, but comes with an “Art of” the movie volume that is kind of a throwaway. But the actual comic is stunning, for mine it’s peak Miller. In every sense this work is a masterpiece.

@ta5777 Жыл бұрын

Part of me thinks the regular paperback trade issue may give a better reading experience due to the page layouts. Thoughts?

@carlkligerman1981 Жыл бұрын

@@ta5777 I have no basis for comparison. I like the edition I have, it’s hard cover and complete, and I’m not a historian the way these guys are. For mine the Panoramic layout works just fine for the art and the storytelling though.

@gregrosenberger7074 Жыл бұрын

Great video fellas! Having only the hardcover was cool to see the individual issues after all this time.

@adshrewsbury Жыл бұрын

I’m pretty sure that the spread where the colors overprint outside of the black line work is due to the plates being printed out of sequence. They probably locked down a black plate by mistake ion the press and rather than go through the labor of doing a reset they just printed the CMY plates on top of the blacks rather than under the blacks.

@portland-182 Жыл бұрын

The crowded battle scenes are amazing. In a completely different style, but Sergio Aragones' Groo, and Geoff Darrow are the other artists that spring to mind for giant complex groups of people.

@josefserf1926 Жыл бұрын

6 months later probably none of these would remain in his jukebox such was the speed of change in the mid 60s.

@sixtiviris Жыл бұрын

I was so happy to be able to follow with my special edition version, and I do remember reading it when it was coming out ( I specifically remember, cause I worked in a comic book shop when this came out, that " don't let this miller pass you by so you have to worry about prices in 2 years when you are gonna want it") and I specifically remember the feeling of the off center panel, and how every page was a double spread, it took me a few pages to figure it out but it really was something wasn't it? this hard cover, as you mentioned, really is how this should have been sold, kind of like mouse guard or something like that. thank you guys for the awesome content as usual!.

@ta5777 Жыл бұрын

Part of me thinks the regular paperback trade issue may give a better reading experience due to the page layouts. Thoughts?

@JoeHoddinott Жыл бұрын

"You gotta fuck the fuck off" - This is why you're my people.

@marcodontsurf843 Жыл бұрын

Miller used the Hot Gates motif in the Big Fat Kill.

@greermcgreer8596 Жыл бұрын

You make these early mornings a great trip down memory lane, thank you for the stellar work boys!

@egattignolo Жыл бұрын

this comic was the inspiration for a pretty funny movie

@gabrielcardozo8105 5 ай бұрын

Hey guys, take a look at Mort Cinder, an argentinian comic drew by the master Alberto Breccia. There is a chapter of the comic which this story is narrated(the 300 spartans story I mean), it is amazing. The thing is, as I know, Miller read it the time he was plannig to draw his 3OO's comic version and He goes crazy on it(in a good way). It would be great if you could do videos about south americans masters. Keep doing videos!!!

@CartoonistKayfabe 5 ай бұрын

Don’t be afraid to hit the magnifying glass and search the archives. Mort Cinder - horror-adventure from Argentina masters Breccia and Oesterheld kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rb2Vgs6S09CymGg.html

@gabrielcardozo8105 5 ай бұрын

@@CartoonistKayfabe ooh man, I'm so sorry. I'll watch it right now.