He was ahead, but also he saw the start of it. Reagan and the Moral Majority were starting the things the evangelicals are continuing today. Same fear-driven nonsense.

Yep...the neo-conservative movement... Zappa would have written some hilarious songs about Trump! We need more Frank Zappas. RIP, maestro.

Marxists. Communists. Pigs...Have always called Republicans, fascists...And, hate the constitution unless they need to protect it to keep their basket full!

@@justinlittle3603 Some real stupid shit for shameless degenerate idiots!

@@YFitnessMan Fascists gas people for photo ops in front of churches, kidnap children from their families permanently, illegally detain them for years in horrible conditions in camps (all because they are brown), tell American congressmen to go "back to their country' (again...brown), have military parades, Capitol fires and riots, say they will ban religions from the country (how could this one NOT be fascism), bolster a specific religion, and have a bunch of neo-nazis who idolize them. Now tell me, who did all that? Trump or Biden? Obama, or "America (Germany) first?" Look up history.

Frank was Nostradamus here. 30 plus years after his statement and exactly that and way worse has come to pass

He was very active in 1986 about putting warning labels on albums, led by Tipper Gore at the time. 3:21

On the left, former CIA official Tom Braden, whose memoir inspired that rousing socialist mainstay “Eight is Enough”…

The Oldest Man actually sided with Zappa so Already ur full of Shit and a Liar !

Saw him live in Tulsa in 1984. He was the man, will stay that in my mind.

Can u imagine this was CNN? Now they smoke weed on this station on new yrs eve. And advocate cutting little Boys gentiles and extermination of White Men.

@ C.N. I disagree . Tom Braeden on the far left was a Liberal and backed Frank up. Robert Novak who was a Conservative basically kept himself in check . His disputing of Frank’s theocracy comment was not irrational . It was 86. Iron Curtain was still up, America was still promiscuous regardless of the AIDS epidemic and cocaine was thought of as not addictive or dangerous by many people . . I am a Boomer who had some partying times and I would have probably said “ Oh Come on Frank USA is never going back to Norman Rockwell .” It was only James Lofton who was an obnoxious, emotional ass . Yes Frank Zappa ace composer and musician was just a brilliant man that saw something many of us couldn’t see and it took 40 years for it to start coming true .

@dagnabbit6187 Zappa was an Anarchist

@@highwaystar3780 Register to vote and run for something is not an anarchistic viewpoint.

@babylonlarry He wanted Anarchy in respect that He didn't care if society was corrupted!

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Brian March holy fuck, that’s beautiful man.

Do you remember which Tull song moved him so much?

Beautiful stuff.

:) this is so good :):):):) Zappa smiled at this

@@brocks6200 why are you so angry? More importantly why are you so against FZ? You don't seem to understand that he was an advocate for freedom.

How he managed to stay calm after that, is a wonder.

What would be think of the fascists running the country now? People give Zappa way too much credit. It doesn't take a genius to be against censorship. His "fascist theocracy" jibe is just a way to sound controversial. Stupid really. He sounds more like a dumb jock than a historically relevant commentator. The liberals he voted for have proven themselves to be the true fascists, and are more racist than Conservatives. Always have been.

that's something that always happens in talk shows when the producers or "interviewers" don't want to hear valid counter arguments to the narrative they want to push. It's all over this 'interview' as well. The moment Frank speaks he gets interrupted. Meanwhile Frank lets the other guys put their foot in their mouths.

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I was laughing from how much Lofton brought up incest, the guy is hiding something🤣

That quote is tombstone worthy!

@@docchronic001 Total psychological projection on Lofton's part.

Mr. Lofton needed to get out more.

I think he just internally laughed about the stupidity and weakness of their arguments. Don't take these people seriously and you don't get angry.

Robert Novak sounds like a fool. He attempts to cite societal permissiveness as an argument against the danger of organized, far right religious zealots influencing elections and government policy. Too bad he wasn't alive to see the election of Donald Trump and his Supreme Court nominees.

"kiss my ass" was my favorite part only after the Christian Coalition demon called Zappa an idiot.

Yeah, he was so smooth with his legs crossed. He is missed💔☮️

he thought it about reagan .. so that was there all the time .. and see now that mtg and that dondon

I hope not, why would you wish that on anyone?

@@Zzyxzaa it’s a joke stop being butthurt

Zappa was a smart and decent human being... Those OTHER gentlemen? Well...😝

lofton probably likes it.

could not agree more. unequivocally true!!

Yup!

Yup and here we are.

Imagine if Frank Zappa was around now, in the era of Trump.

Yes, and there YOU are. But not in Canada, this all belongs to the USA.

​@@rickb4806 Zappa was a right wing libertarian. Zappa really only cared about things that affected him.

he was a sheep-dipped CIA piece of shit. this whole episode is a psy op.

@@brocks6200 can you explain your reply in simple English?

@@zombywoof1015 it’s possible that Zappa was an American intelligence asset.

bingo! without a doubt true!!

*government assets

Indeed.

That John dude has a “beatable” cause punchable as hell 😂

He definitely frothed a lot lol

And did you get a load of that guy's hairpiece? If he wasn't some kind of perv....

We just need more frank zappas and people similar in this world, who can both think outside the box as well as know the inner workings of said box. The person he was debating was a fool and didn’t even know what the hell he was talking about.

Try not to let it bother you too much. The world has always been a crazy place and it always will be. It is what it is.

I would punch a man like the dude right of Zappa

I know youre comment was made 15 years ago (holy cow time moves fast!!!) But it's sad to see that society hasn't changed in this regard, with how they argue. In fact, it's only gotten worse.

@@Humma_Kavula Well how interesting to see how my perspective has changed.. at 38, having watched the absolute proliferation of corruption and degeneracy in our now-failing Republic, I see these men as, though a bit quaint and backwards, trying to hold back the dam of communism and social destruction that has now doomed the West. Frank Zappa was an articulate and very intelligent gentleman, but alas he did not foresee the pushing the boundaries of expression being part of a multi pronged of quite successful approach to destabilize the greatest country in history. I snapped out of my idiot leftist phase about halfway in between that comment and this one. All the best.

@@Humma_Kavula Aye.

The FCC dude. We’re on the internet and it’s uncensored (for now, get it while you can folks) and I know its hard to remember when we don’t listen to much radio or watch much network television these days, but the FCC exists to censor.

He killed them with his eyes

Well, we had one at one time--The Hays Codes, in film.

@@bobbysands6923 Hays Code wasn't Congressional though. It was just a "suggestion" that no one cared to defy until around 1967.

We have censorship today. Mostly political censorship run by Twitter, Facebook and Google. All lefties.

Then Lofton goes off on Frank for ''We're only in it for the money'' Yea! real mind warping stuff.

I love it ha ha....

@@theresa42213 And doesn't see the irony of it.

it never gets old

Rekt

Frank followed the Christian right and its politics very closely. He knew they would stop at nothing. We've all witnessed what has happened. The evangelicals aligning with and electing a con man in Donald Trump in exchange for packing the federal courts with right wing judges to overturn abortion rights.

you can support his son Dweezil and his band!

@@hectorignacio-nx1dm that I have..I seen him with his brother in Germany many years ago..AMAZING!!! Shampoo horn tour.

Those conservatives stopped existing back in 2016. They went from being a cautious majority to a small extremist minority.

I think the meaning has changed.

@@veganrican606 which meaning changed?

@@RetroGamerBB What a conservative is today

I think what he was doing was criticising that they are 'conservative' but for meddling with the rights which conservatives claim to protect.

Rude is hard to define when trying to assign it to satirical lyrics.

Mostly just Lofton I thought the hosts were fine for the most part. But Lofton incessantly interrupted Zappa.

bingo! utterly true!!

Frank was the most brilliant American composer in history, with literally hundreds of purely 'instrumental' works; No words, just perfectly crafted tones.

That was Lofton . Tom Braeden was a Liberal . Novak was a Conservative and didn’t have contempt in his voice , he just brought up some valid points

@@dagnabbit6187 And Zappa was a conservative but what used to be a conservative yesterday has changed drastically from what they consider themselves today. My professor was a black Democrat conservative but he was far from what a Republican conservative today is. He loved Texas and loved the freedoms that they had there but there was many things he disagreed with as well. When you mention conservative today everyone associates it with being Republican and that is not the truth. Most that identify today as conservatives are not real conservatives nor are they Republicans. They have become fascists just as Zappa tried to point out and that is far different than being a conservative. When you are banning things left and right like the Republicans are today then you are no longer conservative. Conservatives of the yesteryear supported the conservation of the Constitution and the beliefs thereof and holding them as foundations upon their belief system conserving the constitutional beliefs “hence being coined the term as “conservative” . Most people claiming to be conservatives today claim it by a political ideology and changing structures upon it making them not conservatives anymore as they are not conserving the structures of before.

​@@michaelcochran9685 The Old Man of the Mountain, the very symbol of the old conservatism. The Old Man's face literally fell in 2003-a perfect sign of the destruction wrought by the phoney, unprooting, vicious twisting of the very meaning of "conservative." BTW i may not pass for a conservative myself but i am from NH- "Live Free Or Die" baby!

Yet! Ha ha ha. When you do, it'll be all Eminem's fault!!!

You like Frank's music?

mahajohn ~ LOVE FRANK .....for all my life! Love Dweezil and Moon too. 'Zombie Woof' has been playing in my head all week since watching Rachel Flowers recreate it on _her_ channel! xD

same

@@theresa42213 he's an acquired taste and i'm glad i got there

I’m pretty sure the guy on the far left has a fantastic interview with the head of the klan where he makes fun of him the whole time

Ding Ding Ding! We have a winner! 👍

@@MiddleMalcolm Reagan started it. the Maga knuckle draggers have gone beserk

"Why should I smile, I'm sitting here with you" - cracking me the fuck up.

David---PLENTY of those fascist conservatives around today...almost half of America believes the bullshit Lies that tRump routinely espouses.....SAD.....IF ONLY we had FZ around TODAY to take on tRumps insanity.....Just sayin'..... or a George Carlin.....

Nice profile picture

Maybe that's why he was so pissed off. He can't even control his own offspring.

They started a Ministry cover band before they read the lyrics

It’s been another 16 and it’s scarily relevant

Now 36 years and…MORE RELEVANT THAN EVER

17 years later and it still happens. The only difference now is that people who call themselves progressive want to do the censorship now.

Cause intellect defeats rhetoric if aloud to speak.....

Although I've watched this interview a number of times, I think it's finally dawning on me how unfortunate the situation American and the western world is in, CONTROL is the word which comes to mind when I walk into any shop or any pubic place. Self expression is frowned upon, and so is unpopular opinion, no matter how moderate. What I'm afraid of is how organised our 'freedom of speech' is becoming. Little did zappa know, the times in which he was talking at least gave him a platform, try getting anybody who can out-talk a payroll politician on T.V. The best we have is the internet, and the internet will only give you these things if you specifically ask for them. Which leaves numerous concentrated communities, all agreeing on what they are looking for, and minimising the potential of conversation. The internet is an illusion supporting a fake idea of freedom of speech. we have freedom of speaking to those whom already agree with us, and real freedom of speech with those within our own communities is suppressed due to our confidence in our self expression on the internet itself. This is a perfect example of that.

Lofton is a simple minded Dickhead !

Especially his calmness would be considered as very strong while defending his position.

He embarrassed everyone in this debate. Absolutely idiots

My pleasure, to give Frank a voice when he can't speak for himself anymore. I uploaded that over 10 years ago. It's over 30 years old now, and still relevant. He was a curious mix of liberalism and conservatism. & makes you think.

he was planning on running for President, then found out that he was dieing.

They thought they'd walk all over this "dumb" rock star.

We do, Ye is on the way

You’ll have me. My Alma Mater who spearheaded what Zappa is talking about should be very afraid. Am I a musician? No but I am an artist.

We do but they're vilified by the right & are not PC enough for the left.

As far as outspoken, articulate, musical geniuses go I don't see anyone replacing Zappa, but a few close contenders, Dave Mustaine, Marilyn Manson, Roger Waters, Henry Rollins, off the top of my head, probably a few more.

Politically there is: RFK JR. you tube what the man has to say about todays America

That will never happen from "our so called "leaders." The leaders have 2 main objectives: 1. To remain in office. 2. To enrich themselves through that office. Harry Truman said, show me a politician who has become a millionaire in office and I'll show you a crook.

Good anecdote I'd not heard before.

Well stated!

Well put

Rock music was under attack because it had the biggest influence on people and people vote. The govt. exists to control and if they couldn't control rock music they would have a lot of people voting against them. Them, being the Republican party.

@@farshimelt if i recall , it was al gore(clintons v.p) , inventor of the internet 😆, and world renowned expert on global warming ? cooling ? whatever 😆, who was one of the main ' lets censor rock ' folks.

​@@jamessilver6429No, it was Gore's wife.

You have freedom of speech, you don't have the freedom to be heard.

@@JohnSmith-yd5wq The First Amendment provides that Congress make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting its free exercise. It protects freedom of speech, the press, assembly, and the right to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

@@michaelcochran9685 freedom of the press doesn't mean the press has to make sure your speech is heard.

no they shouldn't because one is a genius and other is a goose! I would not expect Frank to lower his standards like that!

@richardmitchell8482 then again, a comedy duo that obviously can't stand to be in the same room as each other would result in some top flight comedy.

I laughed my ass off through this whole thing. This is right up there with the James Brown on CNN Interview, as far as hilarious one-liners goes. I have to come back and replay this shit every now and again.

But half the country is still fighting to ban them.