You saw better a few years later. Sea the stars was far far superior

it will be seen again, like the greats of the past.

@@911LAMBER Sea The Stars ran a couple of years before Frankel.

You cannot possibly make such a sweeping statement. How can you know that there will not be other horses in the future who will be as good or even better than Frankel?

The great Ribot was never beaten in 16 races, and there have been many others who remained unbeaten throughout their racing careers.

Frankel should be called second to none end of story

FACTS

Missed the kick on shitty ground against Cirrus des Aigles. Yeah Queally tried real hard to get him beat that day 😅

100% agree , cirus was a muti group 1 winner and frankel beat him honourably

My dad and grandad used to go on about these type of horses , Nijinsky, red rum , desert orchid and so forth, I knew exactly what they meant the day I seen Frankle absolutely destroy the best the world could fling at him,and he did so with ease !! we are so lucky to see probably the best horse of all time in our lifetime ., thank you FRANKEL 🙏. Rip Henry 🙏

@@200degrees. You cannot possibly claim that Frankel, or any other horse for that matter, was probably the best of all time. For your ridiculous claim to be true Frankel would have had to have raced against ALL the other great horses of history and beaten them which, of course, is simply not possible.

Best flat horse ice ever seen?

In all reality, he put Nathaniel to bed in the end. Toyed with a pretty decent horse. Thought he’d do better than he has done as a sire so far though, maybe as he did, they improve a bit with age or the next crop. Frankel however, still the best Miler I ever seen on grass no doubt.

On his day shady mouse would beat them all

@@cpdoody76 yeah, no he wouldn’t. Nothing beats Frankel on turf between 7f-10f on his day, no matter the ground.

They are ok Group winners but definitely nothing special. None of them finish in the top 8 Dancing Braves Arc. Frankels Owners bottled going to the Arc. With the dross he had to beat it makes you wonder. None of them get within 10 lengths of Roberto when he beat Brigadier Gerard in the York International. None of them get close to El Gran Senor or Chief Singer in his 2000 Guineas and that includes Frankel. Frankel beat nothing special. I think Frankel beats Dancing Brave, but nobody beats El Gran Senor at a mile except maybe Brigadier Gerard

​@@JuiCeh93 El Gran Senor at a mile as a 3yo. I think he beats him easy. Chief Singer finished 2nd to EGS in the 2000 G . look up Chief Singers in the James Palace performance. Frankel never raced a horse like Chief Singer.

They met in Frankel's first and last race. Nathaniel accquited himself extremely well in both.

@Keith Essien, It's fair to say that Frankel & Nathaniel ended up being the real meat and potatoes that came out of this Newmarket maiden. But lest we forget, also in the field that day lining up for this race was future Ascot Gold Cup winner & Sagaro Stakes winner (Colour Vision), who beat Opinion Poll in the Ascot Gold Cup and Red Cadeaux in the Sagaro Stakes and future Sandown Classic Trial winner(Genius Beast).

Thomo can't commentate for shit bless him

@@goose1056 Funny though. :-)

Brilliant!

For a moment there, I thought I was watching a Monty Python skit!

Trevor would've been like "nothing but a hand ride on Frankel" the other Jockey was asking his horse for his life...

Frankel beat 25 separate group 1 winners in his career who between them won over 71 group 1s... and this is the coolest he ever was to defeat

He was the best I have seen! Dancing brave was the best I had seen before Frankel 🐴

Colour Vision too, second to last in this maiden and then went on to win the Ascot Gold Cup.

Enable's dad.

Adrian Hudson the mighty grey. Frankie got me a good win in a listed race at Kempton prior to his big win. Always a top animal in my eyes and didn’t even realise he was in this maiden. 👍

That can NEVER be proven!

@@kurman4749 is it a mathematical problem that needs to be proven ?

Frankel proved he was frank about winning his races frankly therefore there were no more for Frankel to prove end of story

Worst racing commentater ever

Ha ha he could always read a race that lad...

How does that bloke gets paid?? Absolute shambles of a commentator

@@stevejames8070 have a go Steve

Yeah, Tommo is the worst ever. The amount of times I’ve heard his say “Oh that’s close” in photo finishes. Talk about stating the obvious 😀

can you maybe explain?

Because he was Cecils stable jockey, Dan Brown wont be writing any books about the mystery.

@@theLowestPointInMyLife ah come on Tom. That means nothing.

@@felixlieter1429 I don't remember any instance of queally not riding abdullahs horses for Cecil at the time, he was stable jockey, it's as simple as that

Genius Beast won a Group3 Classic trial a few months later too

@Joseph Elliott well done

An honour to watch.

In your opinion, which you cannot prove.

nothing in the history of the sport would have

That is something you will never know, will you?

@@edwardcooper3948 And how do you propose to prove your assertion?

Not for me ! Dancing Brave would have been to much for him over a mile & 10f the calibre of horse Frankie beat was not in the same class as the ones Dancing Brave beat week in week out ! Zoffany wouldn’t have got within 10 lengths of Dancing Brave !

@@deanos72 This debate will go on forever my friend and I'm in the Frankel camp

@@patricksmith3432 watch the the 86 Arc ! At the furlong pole , Dancing Brave isn’t in the picture & there is 7 group 1 winners in front him & he wins going way by three lengths! Just take that in ! Frankel never done anything close to that ! I’m a massive Frankle fan but he’s not in my top 3 of all time

@@deanos72 Respect watch ascot queen Elizabeth 11 length win second DAYLIGHT

@@patricksmith3432 I don’t understand! ? 7 group 1 winners , the English & French derby winners & he wasn’t in the picture , but wins going away by three lengths! Show me a race where Frankel even run against opposition like that !

He didn't lose a race mate. You could have rode Frankel. Tom Queally has lived off it since. Arm chair ride.

Nathaniel was great in his own right, won Group 1s and sired the powerhouse mare Enable.

"Hells"?

The benchmark of all the great champions has been winning one, or both, of the recognized championship races... the Epsom Derby or the Arc. As brilliant as Frankel and Brigadier Gerard undoubtedly were, their 2000 Guineas wins do not carry the same prestige as a Derby or Arc success.

​@@kurman4749 That's just your opinion which means zilch.

7-4....biggest he ever was of course

@@wayneeboiii122 thanks for that

$2.70 in decimal odds

@@stephenrichardson2969 so 7-4 like i told him a week ago then yeah haha

@@wayneeboiii122 I realise you said that a week ago I put the odds in decimal as downunder we stopped using fraction odds a long time ago so it’s for the benefit of anyone who read your comment on the odds could relate to decimal. Anyway thanks for putting the odds he jumped at as I was interested to know. ps The 7-4 meant nothing to me but thanks to google I got the conversion.

He just is an embarrassment, total drivel.

I'm just shocked that he didn't say that something was "coming with a good looking run". The man is a balloon.

Worst racing commentator ever

Won a King George and sired the only 3x King George winner Enable in his first crop. Very classy maiden indeed.

Pretty hot maiden is almost an understatement given the careers of the first two. Nathaniel was a star, and Frankel was a generational talent.

No shit 😂

What nonsense!

How's it nonsense ?.It's an opinion ...The best races tend to be run over slightly longer distances that's why I have this view.

John Ward. No chance.

John ward i disagree u cant say that.different eras conditions etc.lets b blessed with a brilliant horse.frankel was unbeaten b.gerard got beat.i preferred mill reef but b.g had beaten him.its pie in the sky.frankel rated better in timeform than b.g so lets say all brilliant horses

Zafonic. Now Zafonic over a mile could possibly have beaten them all. It is pure hypothesis though of course, we will never know as horses aren't machines.

Err nah

Said many times on here,, comments on other horses,,eras,, Frankel was a one off freak of nature,,massive stride,,combined with a ridiculously high cruising speed,,,I'm 48yrs old and been betting 33 years ,,never saw anything even close to him,,,, just my opinion 😏

He and that other chav Tim Peters I cannot abide.

If anyone could.... I just think back to Zafonic’s 2000 Guineas. So much guts and class. Runs through the line and sticks his neck out like a proper winner. It’s hard to say. You have to also appreciate how impressive Frankels Guineas looked, I know he didn’t run against anything near his quality but he could have won running backwards. His galloping style and way he ate the ground makes him almost impossible to get past over a mile. Would love to hear that with See The Stars, Kingman and Camelot. What a Guineas that would be!

@@phobsdsr4326 ZAFONIC OPPOSITION FAR BETTER!!!!

Peter Steward I’m only 38 so was a kid at the time but have watched it back a good few times and there’s no doubting the opposition back then we’re solid in comparison to Frankels Guineas.

@@phobsdsr4326 far better opposition

@@BertSmithLondon 😂

He's a mason

So was Gordon Pirie FACT

You have lost your bloody mind,smh

@@alanchalkley565 nope

@@lagosfury5142 dope!