Hi, Utmahr. I did chat with someone at Autodesk about this. They claim that one would need a "super computer" to get it to process locally. My guess is that it could be done on a standard computer that can already run Fusion 360, but it would likely tie it up for quite a few hours (something they're likely trying to avoid, especially as their big push is for everyone to utilize F360s cloud features). It would be great if they added a set number of cloud credit per each Personal Use license (per year) so that we could continue to run studies and or simulations throughout the year. Cheers, Kevin :)

@@ProductDesignOnline Thank You for information. First part about need to compute long hours is not really a problem for enthusiasts. I did some renderings in engines like Maxwell Render which took up to few days on my computer, and still was very proud of myself ;) I guess that part of pushing everyone to utilize their cloud is a real reason it is turned off. Still, even without that feature I am really grateful for possibility of using this software for free. Thanks again.

@Thu Nell Ⓥ I rendered hundreds of images through architecture school using Vray, this can't be that different. It honestly should be allowed to use your own computer to generate designs, same with their option to render

Completely agree with this, only companies would use the credit system where they require speed to get a product out. For enthusiasts it would be an awesome option to use on's own computer to render and use generative design.

@@ProductDesignOnline I've done a few similar analysis tasks using Autodesk Inventor. For a similar job to this video's I think it would take my i7 4790k around 4-8h.

Who wouldn't agree with that comment! Thanks for watching and commenting, Nabham. Cheers, Kevin :)

Hi, D8g0b8 . I do agree with you there. However, I chatted with someone at Autodesk about this. They claim that one would need a "super computer" to get it to process locally. My guess is that it could be done on a standard computer that can already run Fusion 360, but it would likely tie it up for quite a few hours (something they want to avoid so it doesn't look bad) I would love to see them add a set number of cloud credit per each Personal Use license to continue to run studies and or simulations. Cheers, Kevin :)

Hi, Victor. I chatted with someone at Autodesk about this. They claim that one would need a "super computer" to get it to process locally. My guess is that it could be done on a standard computer that can already run Fusion 360, but it would likely tie it up for quite a few hours. Alternatively, I would love to see them add a set number of cloud credit per each Personal Use license to continue to run studies and or simulations. Cheers, Kevin :)

Hi, Dennis. That would be a great addition to the new Personal Use license. Maybe if they even issued so many cloud credits per year. As of now, the only "discounts" they give license holders for cloud credits are with their contracts for the companies that are paying many license seats. Fortunately, we can render and do some of the other things locally without the need for the credits. Cheers, Kevin :)

Glad to hear that, Dand Garciaih HT! I appreciate you watching and commenting. Cheers, Kevin :) ps. I'm also in Washington State :)

Thanks for watching, Jonathan! Fingers are crossed that they will extend this to give us all more time to play with it. Cheers, Kevin :)

Now you pay 3x as much… 😂

Hi, Seth. Glad to hear you'll get some use out of the free GD. What objects did you create wit the topology optimization? Cheers, Kevin :)

@@ProductDesignOnline I was working on a 3-pound combat robot where weight is at a premium, so I used it to optimize the quarter inch aluminum supports I use to attach the weapon in the most weight efficient way I could. Ended up with very organic pockets and cutouts.

@@Seth-mb9nt That sounds like a fun project. Generative Design results definitely would've been interesting with that. Do you have any pictures anywhere (website or blog)?

@@ProductDesignOnline I have a website/portfolio, though it isn't super up-to-date. I've recently started my own youtube channel which is extremely small where I go into detail for the design process. Team Just 'Cuz Robotics is the channel. sites.google.com/view/sethschafferportfolio/home

Hi, Jose Pablo Arbelaez Jaraba. My fingers are crossed... I've talked to someone at Autodesk and they're (actually) considering this. Thanks for watching! Cheers, Kevin :)

Hi, Matt. I spoke with someone at Autodesk this past week. They are considering it...so fingers are crossed they will at the very least give everyone another month or two! Cheers, Kevin :)

Thanks - appreciate you!

Fingers are crossed and hopes are high! Thanks for watching, Mark. Cheers, Kevin :)

Hi, Mike01Hu. I did chat with someone at Autodesk about this. They claim that one would need a "super computer" to get it to process locally. My guess is that it could be done on a standard computer that can already run Fusion 360, but it would likely tie it up for quite a few hours (something they're likely trying to avoid). On the other hand, I wouldn't mind them adding a set number of cloud credit per each Personal Use license (per year) to continue to run studies and or simulations. Cheers, Kevin :)

I agree with that :)

Thanks for watching, JG Kim! Glad to see some excitement around Generative Design. Fingers are crossed they add some cloud credits to the Personal Use license or extend the "free period". Cheers, Kevin :)

Good point, Bryan! That would be a nice Christmas present to all of us. Cheers, Kevin :)

Fingers are crossed! 1 Month is barely enough time to scratch the surface with a project or two. Thanks for watching, David. Cheers, Kevin :)

Hi, Rich. Thanks for the feedback. I do agree that this example is a little far out there for most Hobbyists. I wanted to use one of their demo files to streamline the process and to ensure that everyone could give generative design a try. I'm hoping to make another generative design tutorial with a more practical example in the coming weeks. Cheers, Kevin :)

Thanks for watching/commenting, Rod! It's a lot of fun to see what ideas are generated. Fingers are crossed they allow more time to experiment with this. Cheers, Kevin :)

Fingers are crossed...will see if we can drum up enough attention/demand for them to extend it. Cheers, Kevin :)

Thanks for watching and commenting, Michelle! Cheers, Kevin :)

Thanks, LeebeeTech! Glad you enjoyed this one. Cheers, Kevin :)

@@ProductDesignOnline Is this working on the student version of fusion?

​@@leebeetech7156 Generative Design is available to the Commercial license, Personal Use license (through the end of the year), and the Education licenses for all 200 Autodesk Partner schools. However, they did announce they're planning on releasing Generative Design to all education licenses in 2020. Cheers, Kevin :)

@@ProductDesignOnlineok, now I understand why it didnt work for me. Thank you very much! I appreciate it! Btw, can you update if they will do it?

@@leebeetech7156 Yep. I'll be keeping my eyes out for another announcement and will try to post when they do. Cheers, Kevin :)

Thanks for watching, Grant!

Fingers are crossed that they can extend this for us. Thanks for watching, Brand x fab. Cheers, Kevin :)

Great idea, Andrew! I'll have to experiment with that and see if I can tie that into a 3D printing project. Cheers, Kevin :)

Thanks for watching, vladomie! Glad to see you're on board! Cheers, Kevin :)

Fingers are crossed... I'm hoping to come out with another Generative design video this week to show some more tricks. Stay tuned. Cheers, Kevin :)

Thanks for commenting, zwazi09! Cheers, Kevin :)

As always, thanks for watching and commenting, IceCreams62! Glad you found it to be informative and fingers are crossed they extend the free use a bit longer (or give each personal use license some free cloud credits). Cheers, Kevin :)

@@ProductDesignOnline We all hope this :-)

Thanks for watching, Mohammad! Cheers, Kevin :)

Thanks for your support! 🙏🏼

Hi, erwe rwewtew. I'm hoping to make a more "practical" example of generative design in the coming weeks. Stay tuned! Cheers, Kevin :)

Hi Marinus. If you're on the free Personal Use license then Generative Design is not available anymore. They offered it for free at the end of 2019 as kind of an "end of the year" bonus. It's now only available one education licenses and commercial licenses.

@@ProductDesignOnline Ah, and the educational license can only be used on the academy's network, which is now closed due to the corona virus :) I work at an art academy but can't use fusion from there sadly. Well, I guess it'll be just a technical design then ;)

Thanks for watching/commenting, Thomas! Cheers, Kevin :)

Thanks for watching and commenting, Stoik Gramadanski! Cheers, Kevin :)

That whole section will be fixed, so selecting either side will provide the same results.

Hi, Some Lilliputian. Did you upload the file to your data panel or use the insert mesh command? STL files are do not have units, meaning the file doesn't contain a unit measurement along with the rest of the file's data. The best way to create a design in Fusion 360 that contains a mesh is not to use "upload", instead do this: 1. Download the file from other program/website 2. Start a new Fusion 360 file and use the Insert > Mesh command from the Insert menu. 3. Pick mm units in the insert dialog. (or whatever units provide the correct result) 4. Save the file, it is now a Fusion 360 design, containing a mesh that is scaled to the right proportions (which is what you were trying to achieve by using "upload"). The difference is that Upload assumes all unitless files (.stl or .obj) are made with CM units, and Insert Mesh allows you to pick the units. Cheers, Kevin :)

@@ProductDesignOnline Thank you so much, I'll be trying this tomorrow. :)

Oh, thanks for great presentation.

Hi, Lindsey. Thanks for watching/commenting. That is correct, all 4 of the new license types will have the Generative design option as they've been migrated to the new system. Any users who are still using the "old" Startup license (until their license term ends) will not be able to access Generative Design. Cheers, Kevin :)

Hi, arshiya alizadeh. It is also dependent on the license type you have. What license type does it state at the top of your screen? You will need the Personal Use license, or Education license with an Autodesk Partner School, or the Commercial license. More info on getting the Personal Use license can be found here - productdesignonline.com/tips-and-tricks/how-to-download-and-install-the-fusion-360-personal-use-license/ Cheers, Kevin :)

Product Design Online I’ll check that, thanks for your guidance.😍

Thanks for watching, Tomás!! Fingers are crossed they go through with extending it. Cheers, Kevin :)

EDU license does allow you to run GD studies without paying. This can/may change in the future, but last I checked it was still true :)

Fortunately, I think this will have many limitations for years where the Designer or Engineer will still need to be very hands on. I will revisit this comment in ten years so we can reflect on how automated Fusion 360 is...to see if we're still needed at the keyboard or not :) As always, thanks for watching and commenting, James. Cheers, Kevin :)

Thanks, Connor. I remember hearing about this a while back...but never spent the time to check it out. I'm going to give it a try :)

@@ProductDesignOnline Sweet! You should be able to get some free tokens by clicking on their COVID challenge right now!

Fingers crossed. Thanks for commenting, Shane! Cheers, Kevin :)

Fingers are crossed...and communication with Autodesk has me in high hopes. Thanks for watching, wikallen. Cheers, Kevin :)

The time really depends on the design and the amount of filters/restrictions you have in place for each GD Study.

Hi, Bill. No worries! Generative Design is really only useful in mass-manufacturing where parts savings can total large sums (typically millions). Nonetheless, it doesn't hurt to get a high-level overview to know what it is and to recognize parts out there. Cheers, Kevin :)

Without having full context, that sounds like it's better suited for Topology Optimization in the Simulation Workspace. The difference is that you start with the existing geometry (or existing product design) and the software will subtract all of the un-needed material based on the forces/things you input. With Generative Design, it would be a challenge to get a feasible shape (based on what I'm seeing with a few Google searches).

@@ProductDesignOnline thank you for answering. I was thinking the same, looks like it is better suited for a topological optimization. For a little more context; half of a mandible including the condyle need to be cut and a custom titanium(additive manufacturing) prosthesis need to be designed. We need to reduce material to reduce the cost. Thanks again!

Hi, Derron. From what I hear/know, running it local won't be feasible. The folks at Autodesk claim it takes too much computing power and wouldn't be feasible unless you had a "super computer" or a bunch of servers. There are a handful of standalone Generative Design tools. Although, I'm not sure if any of them are free or have a free trial. Check out page 5 of this PDF - bit.ly/generativeDesign Cheers, Kevin :)

Hmmm. could you link to a screenshot so I can see what you are? (you can use a link for Google Drive, dropbox, snipboard.io, or similar...)

Thanks for watching and commenting, Lennart! Cheers, Kevin :)

@@ProductDesignOnline Hey Kevin, i tried to get access to generative design, but Autodest wouldn´t allow me to use this item. I am a student from Cologne Germany and currently working on my bachelor thesis. the topic for my thesis is generative design. I wonder if you know more about the ability to use generative design in other countries like germany. I also contacted the support but they tould me i am not allowed to use it with my study licence.

@@lennartborgfeldt Hi Lennart. From what I heard... Autodesk said that Generative Design will only be available to the "200 Partner Schools" with the education license. Next year it is supposed to eventually roll out to all education license types. In the meantime, so that you can work on your thesis, I would recommend signing up for a separate Personal Use license, which will give you access to Generative Design for the rest of the year. You will need to create a second Autodesk account with another email (your personal email). Then, simply follow the steps that I have outlined on this page - productdesignonline.com/tips-and-tricks/how-to-download-and-install-the-fusion-360-personal-use-license/ Cheers, Kevin :)

@@ProductDesignOnline Biiiig thanks! You really helped me!

Love the enthusiasm, Aamir. Fingers are crossed that they give us some more time. Cheers, Kevin :)

Hi, Schack Lindemann. The Generative Design is available to Education Licenses with all 200 of the Autodesk "Partner Schools". With that said, I've heard that they have plans of making Generative Design free for all EDU licenses in 2020 (we'll have to wait to see). In the meantime, you'll have to sign up for a free Personal Use license to give Generative Design a try. Cheers, Kevin :)

Thanks for the heads up. Sadly we are not a "Partner School" but maybe we could be. I'll ask AutoDesk. I'll see what happens in 2020. :-) @@ProductDesignOnline

@@schack They may even be able to activate it with individual EDU licenses on a case-by-case basis. Definitely wouldn't hurt to reach out to Autodesk :)

Thanks for watching, GAUTAM GUPTA! Cheers, Kevin :)

Thanks for watching and commenting, 1powelrainbow2! Hopefully you get the chance to play around with it a lot in case they don't extend it. Fingers are crossed. Cheers, Kevin :)

Hi, Srihari. It depends on what license type you have. If you're on an Education account then you can use it for free (with some limitations). Otherwise, most other accounts require cloud credits.

@@ProductDesignOnline thanks for replying me but I think educational license doesnt have access to generative design bcz mine is a educational license and cant access generative design

It was free (for all licenses) during the period this video was made. You can still access free on the Education license.