RIP Hal Holbrook. A good man down. He'll be missed.
@andrewgundy30452 жыл бұрын
Very good actor, great subtle performance to everything he was in
@cd6xc3 жыл бұрын
I love his mood of "I'll do this, but first you need to know you're full of crap".
@jamiestewart482 жыл бұрын
Then after the debate she appears with his comments and lets him elaborate. She's the one he likes.
@lutherd4 жыл бұрын
I wish Hal Holbrook had been used more on the West Wing. The acting (unsurprisingly) was top-bitch, and the character was great. I think he could have been a phenomenal recurring character.
@BradyPostma4 жыл бұрын
Did you mean top-notch?
@MrYouarethecancer3 жыл бұрын
@@BradyPostma no he definitely meant top-bitch.
@thomask702 жыл бұрын
I swear I saw him on Grey’s Anatomy too! Played a old retired heart surgeon. He’s been good in just about any role I’ve seen him in!
@micycles12002 жыл бұрын
I am going to definitely start using top-bitch for when I describe a good performance from now on
@Bazookatone1 Жыл бұрын
Can you imagine him and Lord John Marbury in an episode together?
@SpydeyDan5 жыл бұрын
I love how CJ has no idea how to respond to "He's from Connecticut."
@22espec3 жыл бұрын
There is no good answer..
@alfe14022 жыл бұрын
Sorry, what does that mean??? "He is from Connecticut"
@partyguy101ify2 жыл бұрын
@@alfe1402 I think it means, "He's a liberal snob," or something like that.
@cd6xc Жыл бұрын
@@partyguy101ify probably is Albie being a New England/New York snob.
@ReaverLordTonus3 жыл бұрын
"Is that dignified?" "Absolutely not, don't even hope." Lol
@maclover4321 Жыл бұрын
"So, can I find an attractive aid and have her bring you some schweppes bitter lemon" lmao
@calebgarrett2144 жыл бұрын
Reciprocal free trade is essential for human rights but one sided free trade is a detriment to human rights
@TheYaegerjeusmc Жыл бұрын
Trade can’t be one sided. But one party can choose to hoard the wealth vs enriching the people.
@RBAWintrow2 ай бұрын
The Uyghurs would like a word. They wont get it, because they're in chinese "reeducation camps". But they'd like a word if they could. Trade with China is important, it gives us something to pressure them with to respect huan rights more. But it also let's them know we're still willing to trade with them even though we know what they're doing to their citizens.
@brethomuel7863 жыл бұрын
His message on China was the theory we hoped would work. Unfortunately, this has not happened and we are now dealing with an increasingly powerful and belligerent China who is attempted to claim an area (South China Sea) where one third of the global shipping runs through.
@delta88683 жыл бұрын
It has worked in a lot of other countries tbf and in China to a very limited extent, they are more free now than in the past and more happy but still not as much as we all would hope.
@brethomuel7863 жыл бұрын
@@delta8868 It has worked in other nations yes but to say China is more free? I couldn't disagree more. They have more economic development, sure but every aspect of their lives is overseen by the government. Their social credit system is abysmal.
@magnalucian83 жыл бұрын
and i suppose you think it rightfully belongs to America? the clue is in the name
@sirlaggzzalot2 жыл бұрын
@@magnalucian8 It belongs to who ever we say it does, if you dont like it try something
@magnalucian82 жыл бұрын
@@sirlaggzzalot you can't even beat a third world country full of caves, not in 20 years
@robbygates13 жыл бұрын
RIP to an actor's actor. You were brilliant in everything you were in.
@soundsofsilence8943 жыл бұрын
I love the bookend to this after the debate too. Such a great pair of scenes
@cjdayne30333 жыл бұрын
Lol I know. I got HBO max as soon as they got the west wing and that’s the only reason why lol sorry I’m drunk
@thomasmcginnis3783 Жыл бұрын
"May I get a young, attractive aid to swing by with a bit of tonic and a twist of lemon?" Noooo, no, I'm much too bitter and full of ...... well now sure. Why not? You send just someone by..... *Figgin' Hal Holbrook.*
@embott1 Жыл бұрын
I bumped into Hal Holbrook, and his lovely wife Dixie Carter. I don’t remember what we were seeing, but they were a cantankerous couple who didn’t allow anyone to run them over. Once they were recognized, everyone made way. It was magnificent.
@citogal2 жыл бұрын
I love this and the next clip about 10 word answers. I adore Hal Holbrook, I got to see him perform as Mark Twain live, how fabulous! Sadly, Schweppes no longer makes Bitter Lemon, or if they do, they don't market it here in the US...
@alperos29 Жыл бұрын
They still have it in Europe thankfully
@joemckim1183 Жыл бұрын
I really liked him in the Lincoln movie with Daniel Day-Lewis.
@vectorm47 ай бұрын
That was a win for both CJ and the Secretary.
@VioletWillowTree4 жыл бұрын
Love the banter between these two.
@bovnycccoperalover35796 жыл бұрын
Hal Holbrook is a great actor. As for trade, it's a headache and never free and never fair.
@joemckim1183 Жыл бұрын
"...and he's from Connecticut" I mean he kind of has a point.
@scottl96603 жыл бұрын
I’m listening to this and thinking about the TPP we scrapped a couple years ago.
@MrLucky35763 жыл бұрын
Ok except the TPP specifically exculdes China. And all the other countries signed it so it is a treaty. Just one the US isn't part of.
@jedinxf73 жыл бұрын
@@MrLucky3576 making it useless to us and dramatically reducing our influence on trade around China. one of the dumbest moves of the last decade.
@yao0522 жыл бұрын
@@MrLucky3576 That the point of the deal. To contain China
@MrEab20104 жыл бұрын
I remember Hal Holbrooke as Chicago mayor going tete-a-tete with Glenn Howard (Gene Barry) in The Name of the Game. Those were the days.
@alexandra.willitts69882 жыл бұрын
He also played the part of "deep throat" in the movie "All The Presidents Men" with Robert Redford and Dustin Hoffman.
@MrEab20102 жыл бұрын
@@alexandra.willitts6988 Holbrooke has a very long list of acting credits from stage, movies and tv.
@Lepidopray3 ай бұрын
@MrEab2010 I had forgotten that he and Martin Sheen played lovers in a TV movie. He was also in Wall Street with Charlie Sheen, but didn't have onscreen time with Martin.
@oldmanfromscenetwentyfour8164 Жыл бұрын
"... He's from Connecticut ...." LOL That says a Lot!
@1BigBen3 жыл бұрын
RIP Albie Duncan/aka Hal Holbrook
@Desolacex4 жыл бұрын
"We hope"
@briang95812 ай бұрын
Very rarely did CJ only fit the bill 50% unfortunately, she was not an aide.
@robynharris71793 жыл бұрын
Those attractive aides with the Schweppes Bitter Lemon can be *very* persuasive.
@rickrose5377 Жыл бұрын
Beautifully written, beautifully acted.
@percyfitzwallace77843 жыл бұрын
...plus, he's from connecticut
@quasar21153 жыл бұрын
God i wish we joined the TPP
@barbwoodbury77262 жыл бұрын
I loved his character
@EL_Duderino682 жыл бұрын
The idea to promote free trade to promote human rights made some sense at the time. Unfortunately we are seeing that it hasn’t worked with Russia and China. On the flip side it has made their economies very vulnerable to sanctions. Western economies will suffer as well but, in my opinion, have more capacity to adjust. I guess we will find out.
@holycrapchris Жыл бұрын
Free trade has pulled hundreds of millions of Chinese people out of poverty. Does economic freedom lead to political freedom? We'll see, but there have been protests in recent years in China about environmental issues and COVID lockdowns. That didn't happen when trade was closed and everyone was poor.
@AndyCutright3 ай бұрын
And of course this policy has proven to be a huge problem.
@willerwin3201 Жыл бұрын
*Hope is not a method.* This clip shows what we hoped we'd get. What we actually got was trade with a country that pirates our technologies, continues to repress its people, and laughs as it arms itself with the money it got from that trade.
@cameronlaird894 Жыл бұрын
... which still looks to me better than any of the alternatives.
@juliandacosta6841 Жыл бұрын
If you're trying to use trade to make countries give their people more rights, use it as a "reward" for those countries giving said rights. The same way we do the opposite with sanctions. But trade agreements are mostly signed to make manufacturing cheaper, at the expense of workers in that sector, to the benefit of the 1% only.
@JustSomeCanadianGuy3 жыл бұрын
Holbrook would have been amazing as Leo or Jed.
@blindspott1060 Жыл бұрын
Louisiana Sen. Kennedy...spot on!
@LMays-cu2hp Жыл бұрын
Looking very nice.
@MarcusLeepapi8 жыл бұрын
Really nice...
@johnmcgehee54843 жыл бұрын
Yeah, this didn’t really pan out.
@andrenewcomb37083 жыл бұрын
Senator, It's still Sunday evening.
@estel-randir3 ай бұрын
I was expecting so much more when I tried Schweppes Bitter Lemon. Such a disappointment.
@raterNAZ4 жыл бұрын
"make them live by the same global trading rules as everyone else" hmm sounds familiar
@huckhockey Жыл бұрын
what a GREAT effen scene
@EvanMurphyCapstone Жыл бұрын
Allison Janney and Hal Holbrook? coin toss on the Emmy
@lughildana4 жыл бұрын
Pity we didn't make them live by the same rules as everyone else plays with
@vidurbutalia2130 Жыл бұрын
I love coming back to these old clips of The West Wing, because it really makes me think about how deeply embedded in culture neoliberalism was when I was growing up. I count myself lucky that unlike Sorkin, my worldview isn’t permanently riven by Fukuyama and his ilk.
@seanwebb6052 ай бұрын
Well there aren't any new clips.
@sarakoshy86719 жыл бұрын
What episode is this?
@SuperHipsterGamer9 жыл бұрын
Season 4 episode 6 - Game on. :)
@Cerberus7433 жыл бұрын
He is missed
@stanislawbraminski57485 жыл бұрын
The irony of writing this guy as being annoyed about having to condense complex issues into sound-bites, is that the screenwriters themselves perceive economics through soundbites. Not through actual training in the field. But who cares about those nerds, right?
@niterider19694 жыл бұрын
Of course it might also have something to do with only having 45 minutes an episode ...
@BradyPostma4 жыл бұрын
The whole scene seems to me to be the screenwriters admission of their limitations, both from their medium and from their lack of expertise. They know there's only so much nuance they can provide, and "It's complicated" and a couple of quick parables is all they can fit.
@chrism38453 жыл бұрын
@0.48. "Trade is essential for human rights. Instead of isolating them......" Ahhhh, if only we knew back then what we know about China's strategy today, how things might be a little different.
@valeriekeefe88983 жыл бұрын
As he said, "we hope." Found out that strategy was a complete failure.
@Mr.Ambrose_Dyer_Armitage_Esq. Жыл бұрын
Free Trade is essential to allow Western multinational corporations to crush small, local businesses and push homogenizing political agendas that divide and destroy unique cultures.
@tracylynnoconnor1063 жыл бұрын
You know, I loved this show as a college student. Now that I'm older and wiser I have some serious issues with it. This scene is spot on regarding the complex and experimental nature of foreign policy...right up to the point where the female professional pimps out her "attractive aide". Gross.
@valeriekeefe88983 жыл бұрын
I still love the show, especially the writing, but its cisfeminist neoliberalism is... well, what we're watching unfold now. Congrats on discovering that all work is objectifying on multiple levels, though... like when we make workers stand all day for no reason. That said, I really don't think Carol minds being called attractive. And half of all sex-workers are male-assigned. "I like sex!" - Ainsley Hayes
@ashwinoashwin Жыл бұрын
Yes , same here! It was brilliant till the point cj said - can i ask a attractive aide.
@PaperbackWizard2 ай бұрын
I dunno, I think the "nothing else has worked" part could fit in. So many other people have tried so many other things (including war) and have failed, so what's wrong with trying something different?
@seanwebb6052 ай бұрын
Diplomacy isn't something different.
@JohnMinehan-lx9ts Жыл бұрын
Here is the essential problem with The West Wing, when you really understand what you are talking about, you can answer in 10 words.
@seanwebb6052 ай бұрын
No.
6 жыл бұрын
Free trade is when you get to compete on a level playing field with massive corporations with near unlimited budgets.
@aceharris14635 жыл бұрын
Seán O'Nilbud Yes, that’s exactly what it mean. The government being in their pocket, ensuring they remain where they are, is the problem.
@starguy3213 жыл бұрын
It’s what the US hoped, but it didn’t work. It didn’t work with Russia, and it hasn’t worked with many countries. You bring human rights and such to a country by fusing them to the identity of a nation in its darkest hour. You take Germany and Japan in 1945, broken and destroyed, and you bring them welfare states and decades of unparalleled prosperity, they become democratic ideals. When Russia in the 1990s had that same issue, they were given poverty by the Chicago School and the cold shoulder by the US and became authoritarian. Free trade is part of it, but also the will to remake from the ashes
@bbaker41173 жыл бұрын
"Trade is essential for human rights." Neolibs have been pushing that line for decades, so when exactly does the liberalization of China begin? A few more decades? This show hasn't aged well.
@leolong29843 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for someone to say it. The show was well written, but often was never self aware enough to critique the fact that most of the time it never went far enough with its beliefs, and I'm less forgiving of that given that the show kept trying to portray itself as idealist, and frankly moderate neoliberalism is just not "idealism", it's the definition of compromise. Not to mention it had plenty of qualities that are just unacceptable like the pervert that was lord John Marbury who was just allowed to be a creep, the toxic paternalism of Bartlett that never got fully addressed, and the constant devils advocacy for republicans, conservatives, racist cops, etc. It all makes sense when you consider that nearly the entire writing staff was comprised of white upper class men, but that's hardly an excuse, more of an explanation. I also hated how it fetishized American history and institutions, and rarely went far enough in contending with the sheer amount of blood this country was built upon. Oh well, I guess we can just look at the aspects that were well done television, and then critique the beliefs that didn't go nearly far enough. Who knows, maybe in the coming years an equally witty show will get written that finally goes the extra step of actually seeking systemic change, rather than mere prosperity within the inequitable systems of this country (perhaps even a more diverse set of writers for a change, that would be nice). Thanks for reading my dissertation, I will now go get a life XD
@shawn48883 жыл бұрын
@@leolong2984 The show wasn't meant to be the ideal. It was meant to give the portrayal of a generic white house with a democratic president during the time it was written.
@leolong29843 жыл бұрын
@@shawn4888 I suppose that's fair, but I think it'd be pretty disingenuous to claim the show didn't represent an ideal government the writers wanted to see y'know? I mean the first episode says it all with Bartlett chewing out the evangelicals. We know that would rarely happen in real life lol unless you have evidence to the contrary. I guess I'd just like you to qualify your point a bit more (hopefully my example serves that purpose for my argument or I'd be quite the hypocrite) Edit:spelling mistakes and grammar
@shawn48883 жыл бұрын
@@leolong2984 Rarely? You are familiar with the Westboro Baptist church right? Doesn't seem like it would be a stretch for politicians to put pressure on church groups to denounce such things like westboro before talking to church groups again. The same of a president being upset if his daughter or granddaughter was given the package discussed on the show. Those things were going on when the show was written.
@leolong29843 жыл бұрын
@@shawn4888 huh good point, okay you've rebutted my argument. Now please qualify yours just so I can understand better (by that I mean cite examples; explain how all the "he's a good man," its about Bartlett weren't meant to idealized him, cause I'm struggling). And keep in mind this just a media discussion, we aren't fighting okay? (I say this cause it's the internet, things get heated fast for weird reasons)
@1bbasket Жыл бұрын
See Chinese anti covid lockdown riots. 2022
@JustinArnhikes2 жыл бұрын
This entire policy was a complete failure.
@shashankshukla20123 жыл бұрын
Trade is essential for HR oh how has it come back to bite the USA
@chang-kp9sp3 жыл бұрын
That does not mean we can continue trade with countries that violate human right. period
@pooplord66883 жыл бұрын
@@chang-kp9sp Who is a country that does NOT violate human rights? Belgium? You can probably name one or two but their economies aren't big enough to do that much trade.
@vincenthitchin87407 жыл бұрын
This is a dumb argument for Free-trade. It's essential for human rights? Are you having a laugh? The US had a free-trade agreement with Brunei, a country which implemented Sharia law. And don't get me started on the human rights records of all the countries on the Arabian peninsular that the US has had free-trade deals with. So yeah, this is horseshit.
@OverLordthe1st7 жыл бұрын
Vincent Hitchin The argument is when you in act free trade, it forces country's to play by your standards in order to trade for free. It forces to ask them selfs what more important having kids to dirty labor or gain huge amount of wealth from what they gain by trading for free. It basically modernizes and distracts country's from doing wrong because the supposed huge amount of wealth makes them do better. This was the original point of free trade, the example you showed and what we have now are not true free trade. They are agreements with mass corporations and lobbyist getting in and changing things that only benefit them.
@vincenthitchin87407 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I'm familiar with the argument, I just don't buy it at all. But this notion of US trade relations with Brunei not being "true free trade" sounds strange to me. Since Free-trade is all about lowering tariffs and other protectionist measures that prevent the unfettered access of foreign companies in accessing your markets, when you reduce protectionism towards a country like Brunei AFTER it has implemented Sharia Law (fair enough if they implemented sharia law, US said abolish it or no free-trade and then that happened, but that wasn't what happened) you are effectively rewarding Brunei for bad behavior. My advice is, don't reward bad behavior! And at the end of all of this you get more jobs shipped overseas and corporations enriched at the expense of everyone else, ordinary people in both countries don't benefit, not Americans who lose jobs but also not Bruneians who get jobs but are wage slaves. But this video is about human rights and the point is free-trade does nothing for this, not on it's own anyway.
@ufotofu97 жыл бұрын
Then he went on and said it's not that simple and it's probable not true. But he is will make the argument for the presidents reelection.
@yeahbee82376 жыл бұрын
don't you know how open Brunei is? once a year any citizen can ask the maharadja a question *obviously sarcasm*
@kennethparker10326 жыл бұрын
Sultan. Ask the Sultan a question.
@McRocket4 жыл бұрын
CJ is annoying in this clip to me (most of you will obviously disagree). She just won;t shut up about 'how it looks'...which is what I despise about politics. Though I really like her character otherwise. BTW - Hal Holbrook had/has one amazing voice.
@BradyPostma4 жыл бұрын
Appearance is exactly her job. She's a PR consultant by training, and appointed Press Secretary. And it's a press event she's prepping for. Where else exactly would you prefer she focus?
@McRocket4 жыл бұрын
@@BradyPostma Where exactly did I say she did not do her job? Answer - I didn't. I said - basically - that what she does for her job is what I despise about politics.
@BradyPostma4 жыл бұрын
@@McRocket - I had the impression that it was her personality you were calling annoying, or maybe just her behavior in the scene. I agree with you that it's ugly how oversimplification promotes power. I think of CJ as doing the best she can with an ugly job, and apparently I misunderstood you to be criticizing the way she did the job.
@McRocket4 жыл бұрын
@@BradyPostma I understand and agree with you completely. Thank you for the explanation, your composure and not turning this into a silly fight. Cheers.