At 6:43 you're showing the $30 subscription but the title card on screen says it's the free primary pallette and angry brass library.

the last two brasses sound weird

@@theostene4444 Sounded flat? Maybe earbuds aren't the best choice for listening to music for you.

Just found your channel. Awesome. Eventhough I'm not primarily interested in scoring for movies and games and such but I think this is really helpful. For ARK 1 sounded the best. Have you tried the libraries that come with NI Komplete? Session strings. If so do you think they're useful?

@@aiden_macleod gotta be careful who you try to troll - they might just know wtf they're talking about and clown your ass for sayin something stupid lol. Derplord..

Darian Clark *laughs in Hans Zimmer*

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or playing every instrument individually yourself

you have to be millionaire to pay an entire orchestra

If you're enrolled in a University's music program, you can hire student musicians at an affordable rate. A friend of mine got hired to compose a soundtrack and I got to sit in the recording session in the school's performance hall with student musicians, a recording engineering student and pro level equipment. The experience was awe inspiring. His parents were def not rich so it couldn't have been that expensive. He still used SW to compose and audit his composition, no idea what it was.

Yeah, I subbed as soon as he pressed play after saying that. If THAT is "absolutely basic and underdeveloped", I can learn a lot from him lol

*cries in free libraries*

My untrained ears cannot even comprehend what's missing. It just sounds so nice.

@@NeverduskX not to knock it but there's alot missing, it's all diatonic and sounds like every build movie track ever

from a music producer stand point, i think it could really use some mixing tbh

like opposite clickbait innit

@@M.F.Hafizhan and then wrong captions during the examples

Dedication 💯💯

Wait, you're in an orchestra and you're more familiar with the sound of strings? What happened, the rest of the orchestra wouldn't let you play with them?

@@kiillabytez I get what she means, as shes a violin player she can hear the full real sound of a violin (Better than other instruments) I feel the same way but for brass as I play french horn in an orchestra

​@@kiillabytezhahahahahaha you okay bro?

The strings sound pretty good in corale style or accompanying a solo violin or piano.

Y ya que quisiera yo tener una orquesta real :')))

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Hehehe same here bro

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Me too lol

how do you guys think i did on this soundcloud.com/user-604243041/metaldrillerdrillmetalhybrid sounds great in my mind lmao

The $30 dose include the whole suite of libraries and anything added over time, However I ended mine after 2 years. Simply in favour of owning a couple of good libraries I could use like yourself over longevity.

Subscription model for software in general is just a scheme to milk customers for more money that when they outright buy and own their software. Anyone wants money for nothing and when they can get away with that they will do it. Here's the example from gaming industry - in old times you were paying full price for the full game, when that game was becoming older it was usually sold cheaper. Sometimes expansions of significant size were released for prices ranging from 1/20 of original game price to the full price if the expansion is pretty much the same in content value as original game. When internet became faster they started to release unfinished games at full price then adding smaller content as "DLCs" for smaller prices. Which sometimes was just crazy - main game $60 with... $4000 in DLCs and all of those were like unlockable content in older offline games. Then they went even further - splitting the game to slices from the very beginning, already completed game just to sell it for like $60 +$25 +$15 +$15 + $15 + $15 - why the hell not instead of getting just $60 for the same work, when you can do it legally? When they saw that customer base accepted that they went full on greed mode. Added microtransactions and casino-like elements with real money from free-to-play games to full price games. That's where they kinda got some backlash at government level. But they were exploiting customers like this for more than 15 years already and continuing to do so, just a tiny bit more carefully. Same happens with subscription model in professional software. You let them to touch your finger and a little later they will chop your arm off... Also that Photoshop example isn't exactly correct. Not everyone wants more functionality, improved functionality at the price of paying much more for the software and even more for PC upgrade. There's enough users which use such advanced software as a tool like hammer - to do a set of specific tasks and once they get software/hardware combination that does the job well they don't need to upgrade - industrial approach aka "if it ain't broke - don't fix it" And Adobe knows that well. Thats why they went as far as to send threatening legal letters to people continuing using older software, promising legal actions if they won't upgrade etc. Caused a huge backlash and made themselves a laughing stock pretty much. I'm not saying that there's no place for subscription in software. LIbraries and databases for example, like law databases - those need to be constantly updated and it's obvious that you should pay people for doing that. Upgrades to sample libraries in the form where you do own base version and subscribe for updates and additional content and once your subscription is expired you end with last version at the moment and won't get anything newer till you'll subscribe again. Those cases are obviously reasonable and absolutely acceptable. But paying just for some software when at the first glance it looks cheaper but in 2-10 years you pay 5 times more than you'll spend if you'll just buy it with no other options - isn't.

You don't have to get the subscription. You can also just buy them.

My reasoning is that it's something that I'll use maybe once or twice a year, and when the outright price of one ew library is in the $200-400 range, it could take me 10 years to hit the break point for just one library, let alone all of them. Stuff I use regularly like compressors/EQs it wouldn't make sense to subscribe, I'd run that bill up quick

@@UndersLikewise

That's right. Undertale definitely wasn't. Nor was Akira's score, which was mostly made with electronic samples. That's what I mean when I say VSCO is good for indie soundtracks. However, I challenge you to find me a trailer or triple-A cinematic score that uses cheap or retro samples like indie or retro things do

If the idea is making a mindblowing orchestra a budget is probably limiting. But if they idea is to make a mindblowing soundtrack to a movie or a game, it definitely isn't limited to a budget. As Alex said, Undertale is one of the best soundtracks out there but it certainly doesn't have the highest budget.

Context... Sure, you can make incredible music using only free tools. Sure, nice, polished tools will save lots of time and frustration, but when it comes down to it, it's about skill and effort. But, if you specifically want a realistic orchestral sound, you're simply going to need quality samples, or an actual orchestra. That said, if your time is worth anything, squeezing great sound out of inferior tools is not a good option for a limited budget...

@@dolofson agree with you :)

@@dolofson A famous man once said, "You can polish a turd as much as you want, but by the end of the day, it's still a turd."

It's not ! 😶

If you're beginner then you'll definitely find it mind blowing 🙂

@Vincent Deruty it's an opinion dipshit

Vincent Deruty i dont see you doing the same tho but alright

Ah the classic humble brag.....🤣🤣🤣

Can you share work / puedes compartir tus trabajos ?

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you don't need expensive tools to be good

@@dargunsh7156 you just need friends with expensive connections lol

lol well for library composers, the publishers only post the composition that use REAL instruments, so they get very good sounding Virtual instruments to make a sketch for the real orchestra

@@YoungBlaze I mean know to be good you need creativity and a strong understanding of music theory but what ever

@@YoungBlaze idiot shut up

yes! I think so too, a great musician can make music out of anything, adapt it, improve, master it. A great true musician doesn't need one thousand dollars to be good, the only important things are skills, knowledge, creativity and will.

@@dargunsh7156 That comment really strengthened me ! Thank you so much!

It is a lot, if you dont have enough money dont risk, use what you have and master it, improve and find other solutions, just adapt.

You can still buy it, especially when do sales all their stuff is super cheap

@@azraksash if you got money you can buy anything you want

Well, it's 30$ a month for the entire East West catalog.

For most people it's just pocket change but i agree that for indie it is a lot of money!

Yes, that fact was very well expressed in a humorous way! :-)

I should note that Palette Primary Colors is only free if you have a full version of Kontakt. I do not, I have only Kontakt Player.

Hollywood Brass Is the best brass VST on the market I think. Nothing seems to compare.

@@justinbeamon6624 cinamatic studio brass has superior legato and articulation control. I tend to use both csb and ewhb together

Honestly, the Brass and Strings have been one of the best purchases I've ever made. The Hollywood strings are probably some of if not the best string samples out there. They have so many articulations and ways you can program them The brass is out of this world. Woodwinds are definitely the weakest part.

@@aidan-forte exactly. Don't you think you will end up saving money if you instead buy just the Hollywood Strings and Brass libraries? Cause you won't generally be using the other libraries and in 2-3 years time you'd have spent way more than what you would have if you'd just bought the library in full. You'll have the library for perpetuity too.

@@5ammy13 If you are composing professionally for film tv or any other media I would say the composer cloud is a great investment. If you are a student, hobbyist, or someone that doesn't need 100 different libraries I would invest in learning one library. In my case, I'm still in high school so I'm just learning how to master the EW orchestra because it will last me my whole career.

@@aidan-forte hmm okay. Makes sense I guess. The thing is I don't think I'll ever use any other EW instruments in my workflow as I have libraries that are newer and better than what EW puts out. In my opinion the only libraries that are worth it are the Hollywood Strings and Brass. I can understand that as a student point of view and you're absolutely right. But I think for professionals, it doesn't make sense.

@@5ammy13 Its just what I've heard people say because I'm not a professional haha. I usually try to make my own shitty samples before using ones I've paid for.

ProjectSAM released a free orchestra wich is awesome except the fact that it's required full Kontakt. But you could use them as wav files in any sampler of choice (wich I do) so it's still worth checking.

@@user-xx8gw5nc8g hahaha I get your point, but for me requiring full kontakt is not really free🤣 Still those are pretty good vst

@@user-xx8gw5nc8g now it works with K.player free

How to use the sounds on fl studio ?

Wow thanks project ssam is amazing!

@@Y0nex Np :)

@@TheGhostRecordsChannel I also think perfomance samples are great!

@@Y0nex yep , but they are freebie , that means that you need to insert an account , details of your order and basically "buy" that product and I don't like that , because it's just useless to just give all of my details to a company that I know that I will not spend any money on it..but yea , in terms of quality , I agree , their free libraries are amazing!

Awesome! Now it's only 1 kidney instead of 2 😄

@@AnymMusic tbh, you can survive with one kidney. Unless you already sold one for your daw, then that'd a problem

@@ZlakEdoras 350 dolls is less then 1 doll/day in one year

@@18CC I thought we were just making jokes 😂

Shh

Albion One is great for starters, but it is all Ensembles so you can't program each section individually limiting you in the future. I would also say that it sounds very synthy, but if you are making epic trailer music like this guy then its perfect!

Haha, spot on. Literally anyone can download and put OTT on their master though, plus use some basic mastering plugins to make everything louder. What I tried NOT to do here are all the things beginners wouldn't be able to. Proper mixing, realism, good orchestration etc.

Alex Moukala it of beginners have NO IDEA what OTT is, let alone how to use multiband compression... Unless u just literally left OTT unchanged, which is pretty... *Cough

@@boimesa8190 I talked about OTT and the settings I use in many other videos in the past. Chances are, if you watch my tutorials, you know exactly what I'm talking about.

@@AlexMoukala i don't and new watchers won't have either xD

@@boimesa8190 freaking google it

Some effects and anything can sound good, even free libraries they can even sound better then paid ones, so in my opinion don't pay for any libraries just develop techniques

why not use (the free) Kontakt Player?

mzma bc from what I remember you could only use that with the full version on Kontakt not just the player. Either way it doesn’t matter cause I bought Kontakt lol