I think on its own, the cannons are alright but the thing that really makes it the best was the nuclear power source. You can kinda say that the same goes for the Strike Freedom's abdomen beam cannon where it is touted as being as strong as the Destiny's (the most cutting edge suit ZAFT essentially have at that time and thanks to that I'm assuming its the best) even though it is from the Abyss.

Knight justice for me please

Before the Perfect Strike was an actual thing, I thought Freedom represented the Strike with all it's packs. It's Balaena Cannons from the Launcher's Cannon, the wings from the Aile pack, and it's beam sabers and the ability to go double-ended for that Sword presence, I guess (yeah, I'll have to ask the me who first saw the Freedom what the reasoning was behind that).

@@tatsuyah4695 It actually was the whole basis for Kira's next suit. Believe it or not the Destiny was supposed to be his next suit but somewhere along the lines of production they changed it to the Freedom. You can really see this on Destiny's sword design where it is essentially the Sword Strike's sword.

@@rightsideup6304 Huh, interesting. So was Shinn supposed to have the Legends? Still would have made an anticlimatic final fight, unfortunately since it'll still boil down to the reused Freedom vs Providence already.

Siegel Clyne's ghost: flipping the bird to Patrick Zala.

You would assume that given the huge threat those two machines where that everybody would stop the war kill them and resume.

@@JeanLucCaptain you mean like what happened in Gundam 00 because that makes sense

@@ninjartist36 YES EXACTLY!

@Hikaru shidou Thats what they did in oo but then oo had a much better story behind it.

This fricking girl right here..... *Beware the innocent-looking ones!* 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Exactly and to think Lacus easily stole those powerful Gundam and spaceships

And the best part of it: She got away with everything at the end.

@@James0211 I mean what do you expect, Scooby and the gang never made it to space to meddle in her plans.

They’ll never see it coming

Not to mention being the supreme chairman after the 2nd bloody valentine war 🤣

Kira: how many do you think i want? thats not enough

@@user-ud8zy2dv1k Lacus: But that’s all the beams in the world

@@tararitter6163 Kira:i am Kira 'jesus aimbot mcbeamspam' yamato. There is always more beams

@@user-ud8zy2dv1k So Kira is to beams what a Warhammer 40K Ork is to Dakka?

One Irish lad: Amatuer!

Loll

And also in seed destiny zaft soldier were frightened because they think that the strike freedom is litterally the freedom and then think that he was invincible and à ghot who haunthed them😂😂😂

Lol it's not even that bad.

Not gonna lie the rg Zeta is most disappointing rg gundam out of the rg gundam line.

i think you mean, Finish/Fix the Zeta. It was in a pile of pieces on Friday's Gundam News video on the Chair.

@@stevenhida wdym is not that bad

@@stevenhida The Zaku II was way more of a pain for me. The plastic of the head cracked and the pipping was a bitch.

Then he receives an email. Clyne: "It was great, you should open a bakery."

@@andrewowens4421 Audio Log: Kira: Babe, compliments to the chef! This is yummy. Lacus: Now, which is yummier: that or me?

Well, can't blame ZAFT for that, because Klein faction was quite prominent and highly influencial player in ZAFT politics. I'm pretty sure that they had their part in developing weaponry for ZAFT.

@@paulskiye6930 agreed, maybe I'm just laughing at the meme about Zaft being the one faction that seems to lose their machines the most. They really do have a bad luck streak, no matter the circumstance. Whether during Zala or Durandals term made little effect on the Clyne Faction grabbing data or the machines to make their own, and both times were machines that altered the war against them.

@@darkwolf5869 They started it. Lol.

Well, when you had such insiders like Yzak, it makes sense that the Clyne Faction could possibly have enough people in high enough places to steal data on the new tech. Rau was able to sneak the data for improved MS tech to Azrael for the creation of the CPU trio's Gundams (the way he sent off the N-Jammer Canceller data through Flay was more high-profile and not his smartest plan), so what's not to say Lacus had people in similarly high positions that could do the same. But for actually stealing MSs like the Gaia, since the one Andy used is apparently the exact same one Stella stole and used, well, I guess those sympathizers and insiders were good.

I am leaning towards the latter considering that trio of Gundams that got stolen at the start of SEED Destiny that Lacus wasn't involved with. Frankly it's amazing their opposition doesn't just steal all of ZAFT's mobile suits instead of trying to blow them up.

Oh god my mind read that in her voice and now I'm dying xD

Zaft started the gundam stealing game. Karma

@@Xaito Stealing mobile suits must just be in the culture

Well to be fair they did finally manage to hide the Destiny and Legend long enough for them to use ... although they seem to have misplaced the Gaia and co.. (twice for the gaia as even it's blueprint got snatched by lacus o/)

@@maeshg1969 actually that's the same gaia, got stolen again n painted orange

@@trollinoakenshield9822 If you pay attention you can see the gaia is actually still stored in the minerva when the destiny and legends takes off untill the end

@@maeshg1969 sry but i think you're mistaken, cuz i can't find that scene anywhere. According to wiki gaia is shipped back to PLANT for repair but somehow klepto clyne able to snatch it.

@@trollinoakenshield9822 I'll get back to you when I motivate myself to watch it for the 4th time this year X)

So you didn’t know??

That names make some sense the the official ones

@@mafty6446 he probably did not watch seed

More specifically its based on infinite Justice.

So they just reused an unused name from years ago

I read Engineer B's line with Larry Foulke's voice in my head.

lets be honest, the meteor is a streamlined gp03. and the best auxiliary system in the franchise alongside it. it looks sleek, looks powerful and even without seeing it with its missile doors open you can see how much more powerfull the machines become after docking to it. now compare it to the gn arms, and their cofin design. or the falcon from X. one looks like a joke, and the other looks like it doesnt really do anything for it.

Librarian: You don't deserve the mobile suits.

20 year old ser... Oh god my hip!

Seed was my first gundam series back in 2002 and it will always going to be my favorite. Its just good and the nostalgia also keep it alive.

dude, seed no joke is the reason gundam exists today. people often dont understand how important seed is. and its literaly one of, if not THE biggest seller and most popular in the franchise. there's a reason why every year they release so many SEED stuff. its kidna hilarious, they do SEED, UC and then put the rest in the box of NOT SEED/UC.

Not helping is the theme naming of the SF/IJ being a GWOT reference: OEF was initially called _Operation: Infinite Justice_ IIRC.

Then what country would be the Justice Gundam... China?

@@grasshopper3995 probably the Netherlands, where the international court lies.

@@grasshopper3995 IRONY is that the "FREEDOM" gundam statue is currently built in china

They believe justice is always infinitely on their side.

They should have used Nord VPN... insert Shameless cash grab🤣👍

Probably she planned the betrayal very early, and prepared the plan carefully to steal the MS

They simp for lacus

@@none-q4o cue Master Plan from the PAYDAY OST

somthing i found kind of funny, Zaft stole 4 gundam the Aegis, Blitz, Buster and Duel then the clyne faction also stole 4 gundams

CE's version of AEUG and by Destiny would be compared to Londo Bell.

Karma's a Bitch!

Celebrity at day and female spy at night (with her gene ability)........XD

Chairwoman Lacus? No, it's Empress Lacus. Only shady organization like the Librarian can strike fear in her.

*clyne

Lol even Kira lol 😂

And as this one guy said above, *She doesn't even need to destroy any HANGER BASES when she does it!*

Grand Theft Gundam: SEED/SEED DESTINY edition.

Oh my god! You're right! She's the ultimate *GUNDAM SMUGGLER!!!!!* 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

It's how they stay neutral. You really want to fuck with a group who can make any weapon they see tens times better.

@@andrewowens4421 that's actually the mentality of ORB too. Kinda like Nuclear Deterrence.

A wise king never seeks out war, but must be always ready for it.

If you only have a few suits you need to make sure each suit is worth twenty of the enimies

@@Aceshot-uu7yx junk guild produces and sells civilian astrays They have plenty of MS

Is she a *heretic?*

Well Zaft has a shit loads of Clyne faction spies in their bases and Zaft doesn’t know Lacus’s secret identity until she and Kira stole the Freedom

Blood raves?! (Whispers) Lock down the reliquary

Or she cut a deal with Trazyn

All of them literally join the Terminal, so it's very likely SF and IJ really tailored for Kira and Athrun because their development team are Lacus' agents.

Was thinking much the same. "The Clyne and the Furious", "Lacus' Eleven", "The Castle of Zala". Oh the possibilities.

What's worst, didn't she also became the new leader at the very end? So she technically took everything ZAFT... No, the whole PLANT have...

that's why lacus is the best female in gundam, she was a master manipulator.

Ngl, I wanna see Catwoman Lacus now thanks to your idea.

Lacus Clyne robbing the Diamond Casino and Resort?! That's something I'd like to see.

and also a battleship

@@Markus-zb5zd oh yeah etarnal too. damn she is crazy hahaha

Lacus stealing Gundams and making the Nightmare of Solomon very proud

Does that mean Andrew Waltfeld is also Lacus' BF? Afterall, she also get to steal the Gaia Gundam for him...

@@coffeedaddy5694 nah

The Nu Gundam isn't just for show. Remember that

@@jerusivandenolong3480 and the unicorn has an even more amazing feat, time travel

Where?

@@rikoaries 9:30 in the top right corner

@@IronSheepEngine Thanks. Now I can imagine Kira deciding to let Meyrin pilot the SF for shits and giggles.

ZAFT really can't keep its stuff secure. I mean, do they have gundam sized tire locks they can use? Anything probably would have helped.

@@andrewowens4421 at least some Pentagon Level encryption to prevent non-Zaft from easily using it.

i wonder what's the name of the new machines for the movie, my bet is, perfect freedom and ideal justice.either that or infinite freedom and strike justice...

​@@marcosdhelenothe code for new justice is night justice, and for freedom is super strike freedom, that's the raw plan, maybe they would change it later on before the movie begin

It's like a running gag at one point. I'm pretty sure that none of the gundam suits in all of Seed and Destiny stayed with the respective people who created them. Do they got wheel locks for gundams or something, cause sure seems easy to steal them.

@@andrewowens4421 Not true. One unit the ORB 01 Akatsuki remained within Orb forces for its entire appearance on the show. Cagalli loaned it to Mu after she launched it because he was a better pilot and she was needed on Earth while the suit was needed in space. And Mu was stationed aboard the Archangel which was a commissioned Orb fleet ship now and was the flagship of their fleet when they went to assault Requiem and Messiah.

@@andrewowens4421 The Destiny, Legend and Providence are the only gundam with the Impulse to not switch hands in Zaft, and knowing how much of a cleptomane Lacus is that's an impressive feat (but tu impulse is so weak in comparison she probably saw it and went meh)

That's why it's the only gundam to not get stolen at the beginning ... it's genius XD

@@maeshg1969 don't forget saviour

@@yogaindrakurniawan7033 you don't get the saviour at the beginning, for all we know it could have been assembled after the first 3 were stolen ...

You sir are a genius

Superior Projection Armament Manifestation

@@vel0xraperio Nice!

Strike Freedom backpack system: Suppressive Power Armament Module Infinite Justice backpack system: Superior Platform Assault Module

Does it comes with egg, sausage and bacon?

Lacus' 11

"they don't need to blow up a entire base to steal a suit XD" *I look back on past series and events* I literally don't even know how to process that right now..........

yeah, they never made them complementary units which would’ve been so cool

@@meow-meow-beans I wanna say the closest we got in terms of complementary units in gundam wing was the red and blue units who's names I forgot/can't spell and maybe heavy arms and Sandrock with heavy arms being more long range and sandrock having more melee focused armaments

@@relmofvoid8646 Mercurius (red) and Vayeate (blue)

@@KyriosMirage thank u yes those are what I mean. Man their names are hard to spell

they kinda were, the wing was a dedicated hit and run, long range unit, with the deathscythe being a dedicated assassination, close quarters combat. its just that the series never took the idea to its natural conclusion. if you look at them tactically, its very clear that they were meant to be used together, the wing would draw atention, and shoot down things from afar, while the DS would come close from behind and take down important targets.

Seed was alright, if strange. (Aincrad Arc, basically) Seed Destiny, on the other hand, is a lesson in poor management and wasted potential.

to be fair no gundam series is perfect, even the og and zeta have massive problems here and there.

@@marcosdheleno Seed is still my favorite universe hands down the coolest. It is not perfect sure but what is? Number of awesome and impactful emotional moments in this series is the highest. And suit designs are the coolest by far across the whole CE they really had it going with the Astray etc as well.

Love the mech design of the SEED series, but I sleep big on the story. It's just not interesting to me personally.

@@DeadSpaceWing Funny enough the story kinda appeals to me more than Wing or 00... I actually fell asleep on Wing XD

So in short, basically the Mary Sue Gundam.

More like the "MOAR DAKKA" GUNDAM. Seriously, with a level of firepower that would make an Ork salivate of course it would be on the MOAR DAKKA list.

​@@matteste Honestly, it's more the extreme plot armor Kira himself has that makes the (Strike) Freedom appear so OP, similar to Heero and the Wing Gundam Zero, coupled with the more super robot style action their series' tend to engage in as opposed to "real robot". When looking at the mobile suit's actual power and such, they're pretty equivalent to late Universal Century Gundams like the F91 and Victory 2. A real Mary Sue Gundam would be more the Unicorn Gundam or Turn A Gundam, lol.

@@HalfDemonInuyasha Mary Sue is more than plot armor. It is also that the character is blatantly favored by the narrative, plot armor is just one part of it. Being portrayed as some superior moral pillar is another common sign, a character shown to be without flaws and always shown as morally right, regardless whether their virtue actually makes sense. Basically, the Mary Sue is virtuous cause the story says so, not cause they actually show it or earn it. And any character that question said virtue are shown to either be wrong or evil. Mary sue's are also magnets for other characters to get jealous at as they are so good at everything, that others just want what the Mary Sue has. Another common trait tends to be that they are overly special, that they have things that no one else in the story has or can compete against. Even their clothing, or in this case the Machine, are often made to stand out and be overly designed again to make them special. There is a lot that goes into a Mary Sue, and it just so happen that Kira alongside Lacus and their machines tick all the boxes.

​@@mattesteMC in action movies is Mary Sue, like almost without exception.

no joke, the IJ is the best ninja gundam design there is. SO MANY HIDDEN WEAPONS.

that's the best part, SHE DIDNT. she always played herself as the oblivious little princess. but go back and watch her first showing, she was "bumbling around" a military ship as a PoW. and she made everyone think she was harmless. she could literaly sabotage the entire ship if she wanted and noone would be able to do anything, or even know.

​@@marcosdhelenonot to mention she could predict zaft movement, in destiny she herself said that after the alliance lost the fight, zaft next target would be orb, she said that to the crew in archangel so they rush in to go to orb even sacrificing freedom on the process

CB or rather Gundam 00 is really just the real plot for Destiny before it got botched by the writer since she wanted to ruin Cagali's and Shinn's VA (there was a rumor that she was seducing her husband, the creator/director, and Shinn's VA defended Cagali's VA)

You mean Exia Repair iii ?

@@thatmotivatedchris6749 They meant the development tree. Because of how the development project for the gundams split into multiple routes and isn't linear

Well exia tree is just exia with it's repair line up While raiser and Qant came from different trees

@@anathel5882 that's a complete lie and just shows you know nothing about gundam00. The exia tree also includes all the Astraea models that were the predecessor to the exia used to test the technologies used in the GN swords and GN blades, as well as the development of the Avalanche system which also was a prototype and test for the technology used in the GN arms system.

i always felt like the opposite, it showed us the progression of the tech, and the behind the scenes. compare it to 00 which we only see it refueling once during the early parts of the first series, and then we hear how the twin drives have exponential more power, but the machine doesnt really act like its that much more powerfull than its sister units. when it comes to the freedom and justice, not only do you look at it and notice at first glance how much more powerfull it is compared to the strike, the tech feels far more important to the story, with the batteries always being an issue earlier on, and the canceller being shown how much more power it brings to the table. also, the best part is, we see the natural progression, you can see where the freedom weaponry and the justice fatum came from, long before those units became a thing. and we always hear about how impactful the inability to use nuclear power is for the suits.

I like the original Freedom more. Twin shoulder cannons FTW!

Jedi jc mine too

Jack O'Neill? ...you talking about Star Gate SG-1?

@@yukin1990 yup

​@@yukin1990the guy nicked everything he could get away. Especially Sam... LOL

@@AKUJIVALDO 😅😂🤣 SG-1 Episode Windows of Opportunity

YES. You are the only one so far to agree with me on this. Also the 5 Zaft Gundams from Destiny

@@soramikami4383 I would think it appropriate to have them initially monoeyed just like how the Gundam Mk II was originally black. They would be changed when they switch factions as an "upgrade".

i still defend that they should start with monoeyes, and the strike would lose its head, possibly during the rescue pod fight, and then be given a modified strike, or astray head. that would been perfect. and the sadest part is, zaft has some of the coolest monoeyes.

@@marcosdheleno good idea, and then maybe Justice gets a new head to match

@@nedinnis6752 yep

And gotten at a Five-finger Discount no less. Custom made AND cheap.

As much as that is a very cool use for them, it's totally unnecessary and unpractical. The SF has two beam sabers, why grab a DRAGOON?

Why wouldn’t you? Lol! I’d totally use them!

@@uandresbrito5685 If your enemy is a Post Disaster timeline Gundam, beam sabers will only deal absolute zero damage.

@@kevsthebadboy1703 What's your point?

@@uandresbrito5685 cause it is fighting barbatos rex with it is nanomalite armors, which is immune to beam type attack. And the dragoon is the only thing strike freedom has to use as physical weapon.

Yeh, if Lacus didn't steal freedom and Eternal, Patrick Zala win the war and Clyne faction is gone, and i think earth Federation is gone

Honestly, I think it's possible that Zaft would never have used Genesis had they not lost these machines. Meteor equpped Freedom and Justice would have had no problems shooting down the nuclear missiles from the alliance and then ripping the the Alliance fleet to shreds.

@@heavyarms55 Rau would find a way to mess things up and help the Alliance. Afterall if it wasn't for him the Alliance wouldn't have any reason to fire nuclear missiles in the first place and they would have no hope of doing anything against ZAFT's new MS. Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut without Kira and Athrun pilotting the druggies trio could've actually won against the Freedom and the Justice.

@@uandresbrito5685 both barely catch up with the trio even with SEED mode. Imagine if EA send 9 of them against Kira and Athrun.

@@Joshua_N-A I mean, EA only had those 3, but yeah, a whole squad of those guys would need SF and IJ to defeat, lol

you know what's hilarious? real story, the reason i started watching SEED was because i saw the moebius zero in the first episode and it looked straight up like a fighter from something like r-type or raiden. its design was something you know you would see in a shmup. and it instantly hooked me up. my favorite design in the franchise, up until i saw the freedom.

The Strike Freedom was originally called the "Super Freedom" but the name was later changed, and some fans speculated it was due to the Super Free incidence in 2003.

exactly! after a close combat with IJ (beam sword everywhere on body), Destiny quickly lost the ability to fight because Athrun has cut arms of it.

I think when someone design destiny (in Bandai headquarters or zaft design team), they took the best part of impulse upgrade power system, but forgetting impulse armaments are interchangeable system. And they remember and re design it in destiny impulse

lol, now thinking about it, imagine if lockon piloted either the freedom or strike freedom.

Lockon make it as a fine art.

​@@santiagogarcia1606wouldn't be able to do so.

no wonder why we got Justice Knight from rerise :0

@@echos5823 The reason the Strike Freedom is not the 'Super Freedom' is because, in Japan there was once a notorious rape gang called 'Super Free.' With Gundam's SEED's creators having seen the possible negative impact by mere association to the name promoting a rape gang, they decided to change it & honor the Strike Gundam. If it were the Super Freedom, Jesus Yamato would have been #metoo'd & cancelled.

Well, with the newly announced Gundam Seed Movie, we might just be getting that name after all

Azure Freedom!

@@adr.001...Out of all the names they could have chosen for their vile gang they chose that?

makes me wonder what they will call the new units in the movie. infinite freedom and strike justice? eternal freedom and meteor justice? super freedom and aegis justice? neverending freedom and perfect justice? freedom bringer and justice enforcer?

Imagine the Freedom and Justice using Trans-Am.

@@ElHarmonyV Trans-Am + Seed mode = Too fast for you to aim while every hit they do is accurate as fuck

00 sky heheboi

having watched 00 gundam before seed i was thinking they looked like GN drives

that's why it makes sense for it to only carry beam weaponry. its meant to be a suit that doesnt refuel, its kinda hard to do that with missiles and other physical artilhery. even then they had a rail gun which accelerates tinny pieces of metal at high speed, so it can carry ALOT of ammo. finally, its a dedicated mid to long range suit, only carrying minimal close combat tools, as the justice is the opposite, being designed to defend the freedom from any wannabe striker. its the best paired sister units in the franchise. and we see it not just in their designs but also in their synergy. compare it to other pairs like the heavyarms and sandrock or the wing and deathscythe. units that would work amazingly well together, but barely do so. or the heavyarms from wish and the "we have wing at home" from X. they do pair well, but still feel like its missing something because one is a hit and run and the other is a long ranger... both missing a third close range striker to either pull agro or to defend a position for them to do their jobs...

It didn't. It got hit by the Legend at one point, but blocked with beam shields and went off-balance in the atmosphere and was about to be shot in the back by the Destiny(probably would've dodged anyways but whatever). That was the closest it got to "being hit". Also didn't lose a single DRAGOON.

@@uandresbrito5685 Yeah kira does a better job at taking care of his stuff than Athrun that's for sure x)

@@maeshg1969 Yeah, Athrun disposes of his Fatums like they are beams, lol

Strike Freedom gets banged up a bit in the final battle, nothing serious but it does get scratched. It's Infinite Justice that comes out unscathed.

@@VegetaLF7 Except for that Fatum athrun misplaced XD