Me too, lol.

Z Film Reviews It actually hasn't been as bad as one would imagine.

rlrsk8r1 it's that whole nerdfighteria effect again.

Z Film Reviews Would you like to drink a couple of tea?

Ha hahaha hhhaaaaaaahahahhahahah sensible the Internet? Lol

Inorganic Vegan That's what he said. He was saying that a student that prays in school can pray so long as that student doesn't give him shit for being an atheist.

But they can pray. Dont listen the propaganda people going "They are getting rid of prayer in schools!1!1!1!1!1!" They cant just have teacher led prayer sessions

Sebastian Reed Andrews A christian student--or group of students--who want to gather during non-class time and pray is fine. No problem there. When a public school teacher or principal says "Let us pray," that's illegal. That is where that line is drawn.

Sebastian Reed Andrews COEXIST

Dude thats suks Ur Aithest??? Oh well wish U the best of God :D

Muslim.

Interesting, tell me more.

Anisa Hussein Give it time. I imagine subscribers of Crash Course are usually smart. Those who come later may say something stupid that would draw a lot of attention and then put this video on the KZfaq popular playlist, further bringing in other's who aren't usually here.

ice19278 I'm Somali.

***** well the US is a democratic republic that some think is an oligarchy among other things. Voting does help in some cases, but if voting third party it is like not voting at all. Especially in cases of politicians getting through gerrymandering among other methods with lobbyists.

Me too. *grabs popcorn*

PMW3 This seems to be a very well educated and understanding part of You-tube . So happy to find this page. *Silently Sobs in the corner*

Inorganic Vegan its the people that think Freedom from religion means there shouldnt be any religion for anyone. Which is NOT freedom of religion.

Sreven199 nobody thinks that

Alan Jeffrey You'd be VERY surprised

Sreven199 I dont think he would... im sure there are people who think religions are fake and that there shouldnt be religions, but I doubt those people would support a government which actively criminalized religious practice.

Ddub1083 I never did say it was the Inorganic vegan that was one of these people, also, if you're talking about our government, they sort of..."selectively criminalize"

Felipe Cyrineu This is a more civilized section of KZfaq :)

Inorganic Vegan LOL what? Go smash some pots ;)

Darth Savage anyone up for a flame war?

Felipe Cyrineu You're looking at the top comments. Look at newest first and scroll down a little, and you'll see plenty of flamewar fuel.

+Some KZfaq Commenter trolls took some time to get here with their lack of free thought.

what the hell is a fun lesson?

God *1 our later, God sits on his throne, his face buried in his palm with quiet sobbing sounds coming from his direction*

Nobody YOLO

+OzixiThrill But if It where a just god, why would It be doing that?

most of the comments are about how bad they expect the comments to be xD

That was because the Russians back then were rumored to be atheist, so we decided that it would be very capitalist if we put that phrase

teknifix No, you're not reading too much into it. Watch enough c-span & you'll learn which of our senators & representatives want to put their particular brand of religion into US laws & make *everyone* follow them.

teknifix Politicians often make laws, policies, and the like shaped by their religious views or lack there of. But that's because they're people and people are influenced by the things they believe or don't believe. But if you apply this same observation to political parties you will get something similar with political affiliation. This candidate wants to pass a law because they're a Socialist, this candidate wants to repeal that law because they're a Republican. The government isn't allowed to favor or prohibit political affiliation but that doesn't mean the people in it aren't going to make choices based on their political beliefs.

FallenEpic "The government isn't allowed to favor or prohibit political affiliation..." so how was McCarthyism ever a thing? Political history isn't my strong point. :(

Master Therion There are a lot of legal & political SNAFUs that can be clarified by the statement that, "Making something illegal doesn't necessarily make it go away." Or in the case of McCarthyism, keep things from happening.

teknifix Mitt Romney is actually a pretty terrible example to use to help your point. There are plenty of politicians whose entire persona, agreed by both sides, is their religiosity. Mike Huckabee is a good example. Romney on the other hand, is known for his business sense. Strangely enough, being a businessman and being wealthy translates into "I hate the poor and eat babies", which doesn't make much sense, but I digress.

You mean like a Muslim getting permits to have a secular camps while others have irrational fears about it?

this is correct. Yet so much of science is anti-theist by today and science is the basis of technology. Humankind needs technology to survive. Even theist need and use anti-theistic science and technology one can't get rid of teaching anti-theism. The good thing is that science and technology don't mind if you stop using them. There is no doctrine or dogma. If you get consistent and demonstrable better results by a different method even the scientific method will adapt. That is why scientific naturalism is not a religion. Can we get rid of the term anti-theism now.

Science in realty is not anti theist or anti atheist...if a god created nature then it should be enough in truth. Sure tools, buildings, clothing, and books are human made from nature. Though it is humans to decide to test, question, and look. Many religions see it is ok to question for individuals, but cults hate members to have any critical thinking skills in any type of intellectual honesty. Cults want people they can control not people seeking free will like choices. Pseudo science is not science and there are still is discovering to be done. Also it takes a bit of an open mind of imagination to explore in hypothesis, creating new math, or inventions of sorts. There is gods of various religion like Hinduism and Catholic worship that where people are theists and scientists at the same time. This of the past and present. Anti or pro anything is of opinion really and can be a subjective thing. Language and labels are there while concepts change over time providing mutipal definition. There is not just one kind of person exactly like another in any view of things. I feel what they are as individuals does not mean I have to be. I am tolerant ...an apatheist. If a person thinks aliens are gods or they themselves are alien descendents ...I do not care. As long as people do not wish to harm others fine. The thing is what humans do is what humans do even in interoperation of anything. Not a god but an excuse. People are responsible for themselves. More often it is theist verses theists to gain members and not lose them. So are some theists anti theist about other religions not like theirs? I do not know. Old earth or young earth theism what ever sect of religion and opinions of how it should be traditionalized exists. The truth shall set you free as some say.

Jennifer Isaacs with the scientific approach most of the claims made in holy texts have been evaluated and finally shown to be false. Science -if done properly- is apatheist. It assumes there is no god. By being successful it shows that God is not god, but a mere human invention. Science dismantled god and points out, that humans created god and not vice versa. What is more anti-theist than that? The fact, that there are quite faithful believers who are also scientists says little about science. It mostly shows that a single human is capable of having quite contradicting points of view.

You may want to take this to the Atheist Experience show.....

1234kalmar but that would only leave agnostics because atheism can be considered a religion because it is the belief there is no god.

Erik Holtrop Oh, no. Here's a free tip: delete your comment.

Erik Holtrop Religion is by definition is the belief that there is a diety. Atheism doesn't meet the definition.

Erik Holtrop Sorry but not believing the claims of religion does not constitute a religion. By the reasoning you employed, not playing a sport would be considered a sport.

Erik Holtrop What? First of all, no it wouldn't even if it was true, because the alternative to dogmatically indoctrinating children into christianity is not indoctrinating them into an irrational belief that there are no gods, the alternative is to simply not do it. Simply not doing any religious activity. Secondly atheism can't be considered a religion by any sane definition of the word. It has no church, no holy books, no spiritual tennets, no holy figures of authority, no dogma. I do have to say this, because I'm a philosopher, I can't stand definitions being so horribly misstreated. If you mangle your definition of a religion so bad that atheism can be considered one, the word just lost all of it's meaning.

Commentseption o.o

Walz Yep. The other comments are about which comments are mostly displayed in the comment section. I'll start a new trend of people replying to these comments about which comments there are.

stellarfirefly Well, you can write laws based on religious edicts, but they can be struck down by the courts. If I remember right, you can write an unconstitutional law into the books if you want, but as soon as it gets challenged and found unconstitutional, it'll be removed. If the law is unchallenged and unenforced, it'll be on the books for as long as it remains unchallenged.

What laws have specifically been written from religious edicts? I can't remember any.

People are trying to push them all the time, every time someone tries to either create a law, remove a law, or challenge a bill on the grounds that "it is against god's will".

stellarfirefly But have any of those actually succeeded?

Connor Shipley You must have missed the whole past decade with gay marriage laws...

Full-time Penguin The secularists send their regards.

Full-time Penguin If you actually watch the video he doesn't say anything controversial. Separation of church and state is pretty well agreed upon as good. Religious members don't want their religious practices monitored, and secularists don't want the government influenced by ideologies they disagree with. It's a win/win really with minimal reasonable compromise.

TheJaredtheJaredlong He knows this...It's just that it's inevitable that if a youtube video has anything remotely to do with any type of religion, there will be a shit storm of arguments going on in the comments...

Joseph Griffin Haha, made my day.

TheJaredtheJaredlong If religious people are also in favor of sepparation of church and state, aren't they also secularists?

Same, but over here, we need to worry about more important stuff than just a Pledge... **coughs** Student Loans **coughs**

Nick A. Haha, valid. Separate topic, but valid.

Nick A. You poor, poor american

I also find it funny they added "under God" between "One Nation" and "Indivisible" in how the U.S. Is split on faith related issues.

Rockerchavnerdemo Honestly a lot of American schools don't say the pledge of Allegiance anymore, including private schools. I went to a private school in the South (in the Bible Belt) and they stopped doing it about 5 or 6 years ago.

Lucas Earthbound I know. I'm half tempted to start things up with a long winded rant about the Hobby Lobby decision. Or the recent scam to make Planned Parenthood look bad in order to defund them.

TheDajamster relgion is a cancer on society...we should make the government burn down all churches and places of worship or teaching religion... *sits back, puts feet up and waits*

Jonathan Canfield Daaaaang. I've been totally outdone. Tipping my hat & walking away. Looking for something to hide behind.

TheDajamster *offers some popcorn*

Lucas Earthbound Pug!

Damian Staszel Not if you ask some...particular...politicians. (Of course, that's assuming you can get an answer at all.)

Inorganic Vegan What's wrong with that? If the kids are allowed to do it on their own initiative only, why not?

What do you mean by freedom from religion. Because I believe what you are implying by that is already the case. You are just restating the fact that people shouldn't be forced into religion.

Collin Keogler It's from the most recent presidential election in America, between the black guy and the religious zealot, where the zealot said "Freedom *of* religion is not freedom *from* religion." Essentially saying that Atheism is not a right people have.

*Don't we already have that? I know I do.*

Inorganic Vegan idiotic and silly aren't the same thing

Only smart and reasonable people watch crash course

Dalton Campbell u fucking wot m8

jchammer333 Well to be fair the law is simple and doesn't hurt anyone. Everyone gets what they want. I don't have to put up with religion if I don't want to but religious people don't have to stop doing what they do either. Everyone wins.

What?

Taylor Bennett Consider, that in 1787, religious persecution (of the kind "Your Jesus' thorns are black not brown! Aghfabathadieee!") was a very real threat people had to worry about, and was indeed why the 13 colonies had as many inhabitants as they did. It therefore made sense to make that the first thing to prevent

Fernando Torre so if just tolerate religious to express themselves it will lead to a "religious persecution " like in 1787 , you can t prevent that by not tolerating , the religious expression that conflict with law is the one prohibited by extremists,

you like jazz?

I know right.

Cedric Or people surprised the lack of flame wars about religion or people stating how more people are surprised the lack of flame wars about religion than flame wars about religion.

Matthew Brunette i'm willing to start one about your profile picture if your down

Steven Sanabria lol

Matthew Brunette Is this just fantasy?

Pythos Sapunov Caught in a landslide...

rlrsk8r1 No

What do you mean by that?

I mean yes there needs to be freedom of religion, but inherently it also means there needs to be freedom from religion.

Collin Keogler to clean ourself from the fairytales

chaseshaw22 That doesn't make sense and seems to be contradicting. Clarify?

I agree everyone should just believe what they want to believe.

Mark N. Oop

Kyle Daugherty I'll start. The [insert least liked religious group here] are destroying America with their filthy agendas and policies. I'm not saying we should outlaw things I disagree with, but I'm saying we should outlaw things I disagree with.

FallenEpic Nicely done haha.

Great!

***** I'm perfectly okay with debate as long as people can stay civil, but these types of debates tend to get a little... heated.

melvingamer Because they got away with it long enough that now it's "historical".

Because no one's challenged it yet

It is funny how so many assume what god is mentioned even though there are so many and especially so many sects per religion.

melvingamer It's in a weird kind of cultural limbo that the courts officially refer to as "Ceremonial Deism". Basically, it has been around long enough that the phrase itself has become divorced from whatever specific meanings it originally had and become associated with more vague things like "national unity." I don't necessarily agree with that holding myself, but it's interesting the amount of context that goes into a lot of Supreme Court rulings.

It does include this. People disagreeing with you is not against the law.

@@jeffinaz81 this isnt just disagreeing

You do have that right, I agree with, my brother is an atheist and he get told that over and over again

deamonyoshi876 I really can't tell you're being sarcastic. You have really monotone typing.

I personally believe that kittens are cuter than golden retriever puppies, yet other than that I fully agree with your statement.

@@jackolantern9034 How dare you?

Tundra no Israeli government & military kills Native Palestinians & steals their lands even now, Israeli government makes laws favoring Jews over non-Jews in 2019.... So there is that.

billygoatideas Religion affects abortion laws.

billygoatideas The mention of "God" in the pledge of allegiance was a jab at the atheist soviet union during the cold war.

billygoatideas Unfortunately.

billygoatideas If you are forced take out all references to God, you establish Atheism as the official religion of government

Joseph Schmitz Atheism is not a religion. It is the lack of religion.

I will agree with you

Why doesn't god hate gays?

Illuminati- Stay right where you are

Anton Babani you're funny. Maybe believing in a god who created evil would be better.

Technically that's included but not limited to.

Anton Babani Atheism is simply a lack of belief in a god or gods, that is it. Communism is a political ideology onto it's self.

I'm Christian. And I agree. In America, not everyone shares the same religious beliefs. Its the old, white men who blur the lines. Religious Conservatives banning contraceptions and abortion (the Old and New Testament does not rail against abortion like people do today. We hyperextended that belief). Fmr Atty Gen Jeff Sessions *justified* separating children by using a passage from the Bible in Congress. Religion and Politics don't mix. And its for a reason. Like if you agree.👍