Freeze Dried Cream

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Freeze Dried Cream

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Phil at 4800 feet

2 жыл бұрын

Can dairy cream be freezed dried. Successes and failures.

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@sandys.1891 Жыл бұрын

This is perfect! Now we have a method to store butter for the future. Thank you Phil I always learn so much from your videos.

@amandarichards9564 2 жыл бұрын

Add some marbles into the jar, it'll help with the mixing.....or put into a food processor and within a couple minutes, you'll have butter. (former dairy cow owner here)

@Philat4800feet 2 жыл бұрын

My arms thank you. I do miss hand milking. Very therapeutic.

@amy3458 8 ай бұрын

@@Philat4800feetYes, but my goodness the after-shot of your arm was delicious! LoL

@isabelladavis1363 Жыл бұрын

The video I’ve been waiting for Phil…my secret joy in the morning coffee without watching the rising costs as well as spoilage…many thanks

@wendykotterink3870 2 жыл бұрын

So my conclusion is it’s great to freezedry cream for cooking (in soups f.e.) and for butter. When you want whipped cream, you need the original cream. Now is my question: does the butter from freezedried cream also melt? Or is it just a spread? So can you use it for baking/ frying f.e. a steak? In that case I think it’s not a waste… and maybe you can put the powder into batters for moist/ flavor. I think there are several beautiful ways to use it. Thanks for your experiment, it helps me a lot!

@kchandler4985 2 жыл бұрын

I just did the butter from cream, it acts and tastes just like real butter. (Actually better because it isn't waxy)! On the counter it softens in the frig it gets hard.

@wendykotterink3870 2 жыл бұрын

@@kchandler4985 so it does melt when you heat it (warm toast, fryingpan etc). I like to hear that!. I will try it when I have my FD.

@kchandler4985 2 жыл бұрын

@@wendykotterink3870 yes, it acts just the same :-)

@Tammy35424 Жыл бұрын

And regular freeze dried also didn’t lighten like the original so I kept adding product and it just turned greasy. I agree with your conclusions Wendy

@scentsbyemebathbody3161 6 ай бұрын

I appreciate this video and it is informative to know you can get butter at least from it . Thanks 😊

@angelinar.612 2 жыл бұрын

I especially love your videos. Their so detailed . Thank you

@Uncle_Buzz 2 жыл бұрын

How do we Americans say... FREAKING AWESOME. Thanks Phil... really good info.

@Philat4800feet 2 жыл бұрын

Kind words. Thanks

@coloradokid8321 Жыл бұрын

Brilliant Phil! You have solved my freeze dried butter dilemma! Thanks. Also, I used to make whipped cream decades ago using one of those canisters that uses a nitrous oxide cylinder under pressure to make the whip cream. Perhaps that might work.

@Philat4800feet Жыл бұрын

Good idea

@MrandMrsBurns Жыл бұрын

@@Philat4800feet We’re you able to try this?

@InLawsAttic 2 жыл бұрын

Can you freeze dry cream, and just get back plain liquid cream (like for coffee)? Thanks, great lessons here!

@shermdog6969 2 жыл бұрын

No it doesn't incorporate very easy. If you blend it with a hand blender it will a little easier but the cream starts to float.

@abudhabig0ld 6 ай бұрын

Dude count the times you wish you had whip cream and the times you wanted butter, um, my money is on butter, every vegetable loves butter. That's a winner I didn't know about

@Philat4800feet 6 ай бұрын

Yup

@MrandMrsBurns Жыл бұрын

I make biscuits out of whipping cream and flour only. Which form of FD cream would you recommend using? It would need to be liquified at some point. Can this biscuit be made? Great video. I refer your videos to a FD group I belong to all the time. You’re a real asset to our community. 🏆

@Philat4800feet Жыл бұрын

My guess it would work. But to make sure, you would need to try it.

@shermdog6969 2 жыл бұрын

I've been freeze drying a lot of cream cheese lately. Works amazingly well. I make my butter in a food processor. It's extremely fast.

@Philat4800feet 2 жыл бұрын

Have you had a problem when reconstituting your cream cheese and breaking the oil?

@Barosunflower 2 жыл бұрын

Try whipping the cream, into whipped cream, first and try freeze dry. Just a thought

@Philat4800feet 2 жыл бұрын

Good thought. The "Cool Whip" kind of worked, maybe real whip cream would work too. When I was trying to bring back the "Cool Whip" I placed it in a low vacuum. The micro bubbles swelled up and expanded. I tried to freeze it while expanded, but it collapsed when the vacuum was removed.

@carolemoore4452 Жыл бұрын

I freeze dried whipped cream; I don’t know how long it will last in storage nor have I reconstitutes it. It maintained its shape following freeze drying and is airy. I made the whipped cream by combining heavy cream with powdered sugar, pinch of Redmonds salt, pure vanilla. Would you consider approaching your experiment from this application & following up with data?

@lindaarnold3091 2 жыл бұрын

Wow! Thanks for trying this out for us! I am going to FD some cream. I usually make my own butter and so good to know I can FD and later make butter.

@Philat4800feet 2 жыл бұрын

You are so welcome!

@XaYaZaZa 2 жыл бұрын

🎶Whip it! Whip it good! 🎶

@johnbailley4468 Жыл бұрын

Phil i have my coffee with heavy cream. how about just put a TBS OF THE DRIED in it? how would it taste?

@Philat4800feet Жыл бұрын

Should be good, don't expect whipped cream

@davidcantwell2489 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Phil.

@user-sy7ck3ln6o 10 ай бұрын

I think if your needing butter.. for long term... your best bet is to make or buy GHEE.. It will remain shelf stable for a very very long tim. cool/dark pantry! 2 years ish

@Philat4800feet 10 ай бұрын

or buy a cow.

@agentp6621 2 жыл бұрын

My wife buys raw milk from a local farmer. The cream separates from the milk and floats to the top. She skims the cream off the top and makes butter with it. She has made whipped cream with it before. It tends to take awhile to whip up. 15 minutes maybe? That’s just straight raw milk from the cow. Not pasteurized or homogenized. I’m willing to try this with my freeze dryer and see if she notices a difference. If there’s anything, it’s a shelf stable version of butter.

@Philat4800feet 2 жыл бұрын

Let me know the results

@scarletraborn7642 2 жыл бұрын

i have freeze dried fresh raw milk from the dairy. it turned out great! i just shook the jug really good before pouring it onto the trays. i did one gallon of milk to four trays.

@donnastafford9799 2 жыл бұрын

Mostly air in the whipped cream.

@lyndabuchholz1216 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome video!! I had to send a link to friends and relatives!

@Philat4800feet 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing!!

@sweett4rt Жыл бұрын

Just get some Dream whip packets and store them for the "Zombie Apocalypse" 🤣

@isabelladavis1363 Жыл бұрын

Excellent video Creme cheese and sour cream working so far …butter is the next journey …thanks so much for sharing important information buttermilk for biscuits ummm….wonder if we can freeze dry the end result of the buttermilk …to add to baked goods…

@Philat4800feet Жыл бұрын

You will never know until you try. I've had many failures.

@AllOuttaSpoons Жыл бұрын

Would really like to know if freeze dried cream can be reconstituted and be used for ice cream.

@Philat4800feet Жыл бұрын

Hmmm. If ice cream is made with butter fat, it may work.

@ThirteenKidsLater 2 жыл бұрын

Interesting. When I’ve tried cream before, I essentially ended up with unsalted butter. Not powdery at all.

@Philat4800feet 2 жыл бұрын

I just used regular whipping cream.

@kimmididwhat Жыл бұрын

The only problem is … You most likely won’t have refrigeration when the SHTF … (or you just lose electricity. ) Not sure why people don’t realize this. You’re also not going have a fridge, freezer nor an electric mixer in a SHTF situation. I only mention this because You mentioned the apocalypse.

@Philat4800feet Жыл бұрын

I guess we'll need to take a page from our pioneer past.

@carrigill Жыл бұрын

just a thought they do have refrigerators that are run on solar only.

@Philat4800feet Жыл бұрын

@@carrigill Doesn't surprise me.

@user-yk7vd4zg3r Жыл бұрын

Is it possible to freeze dry scalloped potatoes, that are basically sliced potatoes and heavy whipping cream as the base?

@Philat4800feet Жыл бұрын

My first thought is yes, although your recipe is much different than mine. The test will be if the FD food feels "oily" when done. If oily, or if you just want to protect your food, I would vacuum pack it with an OA.

@ccmars9315 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Phil. Thank you for this video. You said that it can’t be done in the Harvest Right freeze dryer… is there another brand of FD??? I’m in australia and just paid $8,500 (and have to wait until at least September to receive it) for my large HRFD. With everyone asking me if they’ll be able to use it, or if I could do some drying for them, I am thinking of getting a 2nd one already. I know the Chinese also have them (probably copied HR looking at their machine), but which one do you have or recommend???? Thank you, great videos btw!! 💖

@XaYaZaZa 2 жыл бұрын

There isn't that I'm aware of, you won't regret the purchase and wait, I got mine last month

@Philat4800feet 2 жыл бұрын

I have a four tray freeze dryer. There are suppliers who sell dehydrated butter powder. It's not freeze dried.

@kchandler4985 2 жыл бұрын

Butter cant be done in a HR but as the video shows you can fd the cream and then make butter

@begindreaming Жыл бұрын

CC, I read on a group just a couple of days ago about a gal that did FD for people but claimed a portion (1/3, I think) of the final product as 'payment'. I certainly wouldn't do that for free, unless for close friends or family.

@mommabodsalwaysright4509 Жыл бұрын

Keep in mind there is a difference between “whipping cream” and “heavy cream”. Whipping cream usually has a “thickener” added.. like guar gum. Heavy Cream.. most of the time.. does not have that added. It would be interesting to see these tests using real FRESH cream purchased from a farm without the added thickeners.

@Philat4800feet Жыл бұрын

Still trying to find out why my heavy cream, purchased from a store, went to butter instead of being whipped. Wondering if something happened to the fat globules.

@user-sy7ck3ln6o 10 ай бұрын

How long could you keep the dry powder from the freeze dried full heavy cream in an air tight oxygen free mylar?

@Philat4800feet 10 ай бұрын

Time will tell, but if I can keep it for five years, I'm sure I'm good for 20+

@lindastephen-seaver6345 5 ай бұрын

I use heavy cream in my coffee. If I freeze dry my cream can I reconstitute back to cream to use in my coffee

@Philat4800feet 5 ай бұрын

Yes, Shouldn't be a problem.

@sweett4rt Жыл бұрын

I wonder if you can make riccotta cheese from the leftover whey?

@Philat4800feet Жыл бұрын

Perhaps

@marycanfield1974 Жыл бұрын

do you think you can use the freeze dried cream "flakes" as butter powder? if not how can I make butter powder because I would rather make it myself than buy it.

@Philat4800feet Жыл бұрын

I have tried making butter powder. It was a grand failure.

@scentsbyemebathbody3161 6 ай бұрын

Have you done a Half n Half from fresh raw milk … ? Or would that just turn to butter

@Philat4800feet 6 ай бұрын

Don't have access to raw milk, but cream always turned to butter. Never got it to whip.

@wendyzepperi Жыл бұрын

The FD cream is oily, and melts at very low temp as you stated. You mentioned storing it in mylar with oxygen absorber at cool temp. Does that mean refrigerated/freezer? It would be a shame to FD a bunch of cream and have it spoil.

@Philat4800feet Жыл бұрын

I would vacuum pack it with an OA and keep it in a cool dark place.

@wendyzepperi Жыл бұрын

@@Philat4800feet how would you be able to tell if something freeze dried is not good?

@Philat4800feet Жыл бұрын

@@wendyzepperi Smell and see if there is any "fuzzy" bacterial growth on the food.

@wendyzepperi Жыл бұрын

@@Philat4800feet thank you. Of all the channels about freeze drying, I find yours to be the most informative, and I love the scientific approach you use to FD and reconstitute. It is truly a blessing to watch and learn.

@tferguson222 2 жыл бұрын

How about using an emulsifier like sodium citrate or sodium hexametaphosphate to keep the fat and milk solids together?

@Philat4800feet 2 жыл бұрын

I'm sure with enough chemicals and processing someone could make freeze whipped cream. Isn't that what cool whip is?

@jodyl8767 6 ай бұрын

Can you freeze dry already whipped cream?

@Philat4800feet 6 ай бұрын

Yes, but it doesn't come back well and often turns it to butter. I've had some luck with cool whip.

@Uncle_Buzz 2 жыл бұрын

I would pass on the fake whip "cream".

@sonyaneve 4 ай бұрын

how does it behave in coffee?

@Philat4800feet 4 ай бұрын

Once reconstituted, it should be the same.

@connieferguson430 2 жыл бұрын

You didn't try it from the pure freeze dried cream, you used shaking for butter, and not blender process of getting cream and further on you get butter. You go straight to butter when using the jar.

@jeanbarraza8222 Жыл бұрын

Could you whip your heavy cream first and then reconstitute it back to whipped cream?

@Philat4800feet Жыл бұрын

Perhaps, I did this with Cool Whip but only got about 50% of the volume.

@jenericstewart 2 жыл бұрын

in my manual, HR claims you can FD whipped cream. i haven't tried it. have you?

@Philat4800feet 2 жыл бұрын

Only the "cool whip" topping. Is the whipped cream something to eat as is? or to rehydrate?

@Tammy35424 2 жыл бұрын

Would the freeze dried cream be fine for coffee?

@Philat4800feet 2 жыл бұрын

Good question. It's dissolved when heated so I think it should dissolve in coffee.

@wendyzepperi Жыл бұрын

I freeze dried liquid creamer - the flavored kind. It expands a lot, but it's dry and powdery.

@Tammy35424 Жыл бұрын

Strangely, the cream freeze dried fine but didn’t rehydrate well for me in my coffee. The end result wasn’t good but good to hear about the flavored creamer. Have you tried using it?

@wendyzepperi Жыл бұрын

@@Tammy35424 I haven't tried it yet, but I will definitely try and update.

@wendyzepperi Жыл бұрын

If I can't have my coffee with creamer, I'll never survive the apocalypse.

@tracietackett5104 Жыл бұрын

How long will it store

@Philat4800feet Жыл бұрын

In theory, with a zero oxygen atmosphere, cool temps, no UV radiation, potentially forever, however, in the real world it has an estimated life of 20 years or more. Removing the oxygen is the key.