24 Volt Van Electrical System | 12 volt vs 24 volt Pros & Cons

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In this video we explain why we choose a 24 volt electrical system for this van conversion. What are the pros and cons of 24 volt vs. 12 volt systems? Watch to find out.
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@rickbartley9255 4 ай бұрын

Very helpful explanation. Thank you.

@fredzuccarelli 7 ай бұрын

Another great...clear....concise explanation Jeff!! 👍👍

@OurThrivingLife 7 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@chipbrown433 4 ай бұрын

I stumbled on your channel last night and watched this because 24V is my plan and the way to go. At least until things like bus bar and fuse block ratings catch up to the 48V world. The 1/0 vs 4/0 wire demonstration was great. I have to agree with you on the square ferrule crimper. I've used hex and square and square is almost always better for connections. The only exception I've seen is if the round hole you're filling is barely bigger than the wire then a hex crimp might fit where a square will not. Thanks much for the good product recommendations. I'd not seen a crimper that advertised less than 7 AWG. And that Southwire stripper looks good as well.

@cheryl7917 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing your build knowledge and tips with everyone. You always make things super easy to understand! TNUTZ is a great place to purchase extruded aluminum. I'm so glad you mentioned them in one of your other videos. also....TNUTZ doesn't gouge you a huge amount for cutting it into specific lengths, it helps keep the length of your shipping package down, saving on shipping, your time and the mess you have to clean up after cutting the stuff. It's all win-win! Always look forward to your videos!

@OurThrivingLife 7 ай бұрын

Glad to help.

@TeutonicNordwind 7 ай бұрын

Good vid, Jeff. Seriously making me think about looking into this more and doing a 24v in our pending build. (based on the 24v a/c unit)

@OurThrivingLife 7 ай бұрын

Good luck. I’m loving working with 1/0 vs 4/0 cable. That alone makes it worthwhile for me.

@ZeezaAndNomadicJack 27 күн бұрын

Always amazing videos, thank you for taking the time to help out folks. Quick question. Why battleborn batteries versus victron batteries? I'm tooling up to start my 24 volt system in my Sprinter.

@OurThrivingLife 25 күн бұрын

Nothing against Victron batteries, we just have a good relationship with Battle Born, get great support, and we love the 10 year warranty.

@MacGiverWorks 2 ай бұрын

Ottimo consiglio, anche io ho iniziato con i 12 volt, ho installato 580A di batteria e mi sono reso conto che per il prossimo lavoro di conversione potrò creare un sistema più efficiente perché i cavi per la 12 volt sono veramente grossi e si scaldano facilmente quando si utilizza la piastra ad induzione o condizionatore. Grazie del vostro consiglio equilibrato

@OurThrivingLife 2 ай бұрын

Glad to hear it’s working well for you. Thanks for sharing your experience.

@Dan645ci 18 күн бұрын

thank you for the video, i am going to 24v system as well, regarding the two orion dc to dc changer, what size wires did you use or you would recommend from the van battery to the orion?

@Dan645ci 18 күн бұрын

also, i am only using one of the dc to dc 12v to 24v charger, thank you.

@richbowie76 7 ай бұрын

Would you recommend blue locktite on the fasteners before tourqing ? EXCELLENT VIDEO !

@OurThrivingLife 7 ай бұрын

I would not recommend using Loctite on electrical connections. It could act as an insulator, increasing resistance. All of the Victron components include a lock washer, so Loctite is not necessary.

@richbowie76 7 ай бұрын

@@OurThrivingLife That makes sense ! THANK YOU

@arielyazid1875 4 ай бұрын

Hi , thank you for the explanation. I have a question . I want to do 24v in my set up but the only appliance I’m having trouble finding is a 24v LP water heater . Any suggestions. Thanks

@OurThrivingLife 4 ай бұрын

You can just use 12V appliances and use a Victron Orion 24v to 12v converter.

@tymoulton3846 5 ай бұрын

Hi, quick question. What are your thoughts on the new Epoch 12V 460Ah LiFePO4 batteries for this application? I was thinking of using those instead of the battle born, would this system be able to provide adequate charging for these as well? I'm not sure if I'm missing something, but that would give me 920Ah of battery instead of Battleborn's 540Ah. Do you see any issues with going this route?

@tymoulton3846 5 ай бұрын

I'm guessing that I would likely need 3 or 4 chargers by that logic?

@OurThrivingLife 5 ай бұрын

According to Epoch's website, you can wire up to 4 of the 460Ah batteries in series. So yes, these would work. 920Ah is a lot to charge, so you may want to go with a secondary alternator for charging. Mercedes doesn't recommend pulling more that 80 amps from the factory alternator. Not sure about other vehicle manufacturers.

@sailorcto 6 ай бұрын

I am confused. You wired in series, so you don’t have 540aH, you have 270aH at 24-volt. Right? Did you also wire the Orions in series too?

@OurThrivingLife 6 ай бұрын

Correct. 240ah at 24V. We wire the Orions in parallel.

@axarothfiefa6676 7 ай бұрын

What’s the benefit of running the 24v air conditioner vs the 12? Just the wire size and expense? There’s no difference as far as efficiency running the unit, is that correct?

@OurThrivingLife 7 ай бұрын

Smaller wire size is definitely a benefit. Also, the 24v version of the Nomadic Cooling X2 is more powerful. According to Nomadic Cooling, the 12v X2 is rated at 8,188 BTU's, while the 24v version is rated at 10,280 BTU's.

@2o3ief 7 ай бұрын

In general a 24v appliance should be marginally more efficient but just like with the cost of wires being marginally cheaper that's probably not going to be what makes the decision for you

@universeunknown1880 Ай бұрын

Why not 48v system ?

@glennbeattie6172 4 ай бұрын

Dude build a cabinet what a giant waste of space. 60 amps is a lot of draw for most alternators. What are you using 1ot for, max power is 100 amps 2gauge wire is sufficient. No electrians here.

@OurThrivingLife 4 ай бұрын

Wrong and wrong. 60 amps is less than 30% of alternator’s capacity. The battery bank can put out around 300 amps, which calls for 1/0 wire.

@glennbeattie6172 4 ай бұрын

@OurThrivingLife well you're right about 30% of course. Yes. I my experience it's still taxing on the engine, but I am old. I have seen alot of broken belts in my time. I sorry am using your time... But really all combined 300amps? Isn't max used or charged way under 200amps. You got some giant electric heater in this system? I see such overkill with wiring and fusing in van builds. It's not great. Obviously your not new. I am a super big fan of victron, I program my own battery profile. I use lithium batteries out of a Chevy Bolt. You know the ones you said burn up in your video.