Wallahi this is a calamity. People associates Salafiyyah with hating madhahib, but we follow madhab without blind following. They treat blind following like Usool Al-Deen. They have wala wa’l bara for madhab but not Aqeedah

That guy is misguided and is insincere he doesn't care about the haqq, which is why he is a blind follower....the other seemed more sincere - he actually listened

Imam al-Shaafa’i: "It is obligatory to accept a report once it is proven, even if the Imams did not act upon this report." (al-Risaalah p. 463)

They're the same everywhere! Subhanallah

يا شمسي بارك الله فيك اعرض عن الجاهلين والسفهاء ولا يشغلونك عن الدعوه (هذا من كعالتها ويجر )

Is it possible to mute the background noise more in ur edit program?

As a trilingual Algerian I wanna say that French is one of the worst languages when it comes to understanding islamic theology. Doesn’t get well with Arabic at all.

The guy doesn’t speak arabic and came debating for the sake debating what a waste of time 😂

Allaahoema baariek aghi Shamsi!

Jazaak Allahu khayr my brother Shamsi, we got to let people speak and get their points across so that we can respond accordingly. Hayyakum Allah

Shaykh ibn ‘Uthaymeen رحمه الله said, “Do not have fanaticism to a caller [of Islām] or a reformer [i.e., a scholar] who is keen on guiding to the truth. We do not recognize the truth by the abundance of men. Rather, we recognize the truth by that which conforms with the Qur’ān and Sunnah.” [Sharh ul-Mumti’ alā Zād al-Mustaqni’ 4/379 | Shaykh ibn ‘Uthaymeen رحمه الله]

You have Ahl Bidaà debating with br Shamsi hafidhAllaah... holding tasbeh... !!? May Allaah protect and preserve ahlus sunnah al ghurabaah clarifying the truth amongst the ignorant aameen

Theres nothing wrong with a layman following madhab, a madhab consists of scholarly work over centuries not just the opinion of 1 man. Not everyone can be a mujtahid

Imaam Ismaa’eel bin Yahya al-Muzani (rahimahullah) said: “I pronounce that Imaam Shaafi’ee has prohibited from doing his or anyone else’s taqleed, so that they (every person) can take his deen under consideration and be careful for themselves.” [Mukhtasir ul-Muzani: Pg 1] Imaam Shaafi’ee said: “Wala Tuqallidooni (And do not do my taqleed)” [Adaab ush-Shaafi’ee wa Manqibuhu by Ibn Abi Haatim Pg 51, Chain Hasan]

Imaam Ibn Abil-Izz who said, “The Companions and Taabi’een would follow the path instructed by the Messenger of Allaah (Sallalahu Alayhee Was-Sallam) and the earlier and latter people were also advised to follow (Ittibaa) the Messenger of Allaah (Sallalahu Alayhee Was-Sallam). They followed the Messenger of Allaah (Sallalahu Alayhee Was-Sallam) all their lives…” (Sharh Aqeedah Tahawiyyah (p.72).

I doubt whether a blind follower actually studied fiqh books of the imams that he blindly follows. They always bring ahadith to back their claims. The imams never said, "it is like this, period", without evidence.

Eid Mubarak.

JazakALLAHukhairan

Lol blud couldn’t answer one question when asked for proofs sad as hell

That was a tough watch. That french guy was full ideas and philosophical statements. No knowledge, may allah guide him and us ameen ya raab.

سبحان لدلك قال النبي ستتفرق امتي ألى 73 فرقة لدلك لتفادي دلك اتباع النبي و اصحابه الحمد لله يارب

As-Sam’aanee (Rahimahullah) (d.562H) said in al-lnsaab (3/273): “As-Salafi: this is an ascription to the Salaf and following their ways, in that which is related from them.” lbn al-Atheer (Rahimahullah) (d.630H) said in al-Lubaab fee Tahdheebul-lnsaab (2/162), commenting upon the previous saying of as-Sam’aanee: “And a group were known by this ascription (salafi).”

The respected scholar of the hanafee’s, Zamakhsharee mu’tazilee said, “If there is a mother of misguidance! then it has to be taqleed.” (Itwaaq Az-Zabaab (p.42).

Shamsi is the man. Trust me pls and do yourself a favour and subscribe

"My mother doesn't call me son, son, son" 😂

Hafidhahullah. BarakAllahu Feekum

Many Muslims do not know the difference between fiqh and aqeedah.

This was west of time with all my respect ❤

I’m sorry, but this guy is the reason why people need the scholars or ma Schaykh. He just reads whenever and whatever he wants and makings his own rules and rulings. Rarely seen a person so ignorant on Islam then this guy who claims to be Hanafi and makes bold claims without bringing proofs and lacking even basic fundamentals. He should really start with Wudu, salah etc.

Did the one just said, that when they ( the Sahaba where traveling) they prayed 2 or 3 Asr?! 🤦🏻‍♂️ they didn't pray 2 or 3 asr they prayed 1 Asr, if they would be all together they would have pray once all together, but because they where far away every group prayed Asr in it's time. Why do people not use their brains, Allāhul Musta'an.

Al-Dhahabi reported: Ibn Wahb, may Allah have mercy on him, said, “Were it not for Malik and Al-Layth, I would have been ruined. I used to believe that everything narrated about the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, should be acted upon.” Source: Siyar Aʻlām al-Nubalāʼ 8/148

These people are ignorant. Salafi is Aqidah. Hanafi is Fiqh. I could be aSalafi and follow all the 4 sects of Fiqh. Thank you brother Shamsi. Keep it up.

The loud one has less knowledge, usuallybthe calm person is more sincere

جزاكم الله خيرا

Brother Shamsi may Allah give you patient against this kind of ignorant people

My bros always say study the books of the salaf, subhanallah. ❤❤❤

The problem is that most of people that said they follow Imam Abu Haneefah actually know nothing about him. They follow Matuuridee.

So funny the guy accepts that he is following blindly while the quran is clear and is saying that we should never follow blindly and that we should use are intelect and brain.

Obviously Imam Malik is above all of us, but at the same time we should understand that Imam Malik didn't have a library and Internet filled with all Sahih Hadiths and the sayings of the Sahabah...etc.

Imam malik doesnt know a lot.... from a guy giving dawah in a park in london...... this guys is a genius

Ignorance and arrogance is a dangerous combination Wallahi

Either he is ignorant...or he follows an intelligence agency

Shame I is a legend may Allah swt protect him

I’m sorry but he is not a match for shamsi I would appreciate shamsis knowledge when he debate his match then we gonna see who is more knowledgeable

May Allah guide him

Imaam Tahaawee said, “ONLY THE DISOBEDIENT AND MISGUIDED DOES TAQLEED.” (Leesaan ul-Meezaan (1/280) Of Imaam Ibn Hajr al Asqalaanee.

barakallahu feek

This guy's needs to listen and interact more

Mu’aadh bin Jabal (radiallah anhu) said: “Even if an Aalim in upon guidance, do not do his taqleed in your deen.”[Jaami Bayaan al-Ilm: 2/222 H. 955, Chain Hasan] Note: The clear permissibility of taqleed, either from the sayings or from the actions, is not proven from a single Sahaabi (Companion) from among all the Sahaabah. On the contrary Haafidh Ibn Hazam al-Andalusi said: “It is the proven Ijmaa of all the Sahaabah from beginning till the end, and all the taabi’een from beginning till the end that accepting all the sayings of a person from amongst them or from the people before them is prohibited and impermissible.” [Al-Nabazat ul-Kaafiyah by Ibn Hazam Pg 71, Ar-Radd ala man Akhlad ilal ard lil Suyooti Pg 131-132, Deen Main Taqleed ka mas’ala Pg 34-35]

Who installed a noise machine in Hyde Park?😠

Free Gaza

The one and only right way SALAFI ❤❤❤

Many Salafi come from the four Madhabs. Then through learning they take the Sunnah over the Madhab.

Jamal schooled him at the end

Its making my brain hurt every time the blind follower talks, statements without proof , insincere talks like he knows things but clearly goes everywhere instead of answering questions .

Not the same level shamsi is right

Shamsi is back.Alhamdulillah

Allah bless shamsi even tho im hanafi i think shamsi is coreect here

People think this is the debate on fique madhab but actually it's about manhaj ❤

أحسنت القول يا شيخ بارك الله فيك

The last two minutes of the video shows this Hanafii has doubt of the Quran being preserved

Blindly following is against the nature and spirit of Hanafi’s teachings. This is very ironic

Almost every conversation with maturidi/Ashanti hiding behind blind following a madhhab .

Ahmed bin hanbal RA

Absolute blind following is haraam. Yes you can blind follow unti a daleel negates the opinion of a scholar. If you are knowledgeable and can distinguish using daleel. That's a general principle. Now many laymen hanafies blind follow because their muftis present daleel whether saheeh or dhaeef which laymen cannot distinguish.

One thing I hate the most is fake humble people it drives me insane!

I’m a Hanafi and I follow their rules. They give the reasoning for their decisions. I ask scholars for fatwas and rulings in the Hanafi school and that’s enough.

The Salafi dawah is a methodology and not a sect or madhab as it has never had any one overall leader expect the prophet Muhammad ﷺ all other sects, groups or madhabs have a founder or overall leader either in the past or today. Salafis also do not blindly-follow anyone scholars understanding of Islam in every issue unlike groups and sects with in Islam. Salafis follow the scholars of Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jamaah also known as Ahlus Sunnah from the past and of today collectively on all issues. Salafis can come from the Maliki, the Shafi’i, the Hanbali, or the Hanafi schools of law. Salafis accept teaching of all four schools of law but only if their rulings are supported by clear and authenticated evidences from the Quran and Sunnah. Salafis reject blind-following (taqleed) and call to Ittibaa following and obedience to the Messenger of Allah ﷺ. They only say a person should not blind follow a madhab. By this what is meant is following only one madhab in every issue without knowing their evidences believing this madhab is correct on every issue, while rejecting every other madhab on every issue without knowing their evidences, believing they are wrong on every issue.

*Leaving the madhhab when it opposes a hadeeth | Shaykh Muhammad ibn abdul wahhab رحمه الله* If a person is learning fiqh from one of the four madhhabs, then he sees a hadeeth that opposes his madhhab; and so he follows it and leaves his madhhab then this is recommended, rather it is obligatory upon him when the proof has been made clear to him. This would not be considered as opposing his Imaam that he follows, since they Abu Haneefah, Maalik, ash-Shaafiee and Ahmad, radiallaahu anhum ajmaeen were all agreed upon this fundamental principle. ... As for the case whereby a person does not have any evidence which opposes the view of the scholars of the madhhab, then we hope that it is permissible to act upon it (the madhhab), since their opinions are better than our own opinions; they took their proofs from the sayings of the Companions and those who came after them. However, it is not essential to declare with certainty (al-jazm) that this is the Shareeah of Allaah and His Messenger, until the proof that is not contradicted in this issue is made clear. This is the action of the Salaf of this Ummah and its scholars both previous and recent as well as that which they criticised: namely having bigotted partisanship for particular madhhabs and leaving off following the proof... However, if there becomes clear to him something which necessitates preferring one saying over another; either due to detailed proofs if he knows and understands them, or because he holds one of the two people to be more knowledgeable about this matter and having more piety about what he says, and so he leaves the saying of that one for the saying of the other one then this is permissible, rather it is obligatory. And there is a text from Imaam Ahmad concerning this. Shaykh ul-Islaam Muhammad bin Abdul-Wahhaab Ad-Durur-Saniyyah (4/7).

He really said my Deleel is my Shaykh!!!

they are fighting over insignificant things. In my opinion, Quran and Hadith are the main thing and then why we fight over Imams. You can follow any Imam you want they all followed Quran and Sunnah.

very hard to watch. self-proclaimed "hanafi" who opposed Imam abu Hanifah trying to dictate about "wahhabism"

Quran and Ahlulbait (as) only. Read Sahih Muslim.

The greatest irony that is so frustrating is, the Imams themselves were obviously not perfect, nor did they have perfect methodologies, so why are people following them perfectly? Why are you wholeheartedly following a system that is not perfect? You follow it where it's correct, and don't follow it where it's not correct! It's like they are making revelation out of the mathaahib, and ascribing infallibility to the imams.

please reduce the background noise

Wider Camera angle is required

These guys just read 2,3 books and thought they would debate with shamsi.shamsi be like 😁😁😁🤭

The colonised Algerian vs the uncolonised Algerian.

I can hear Adnan Rashid voice might be debating with Qadiyani from 31:27

And what he is saying

He asked him if he believes in whether the burden is upon the one who made it in Arabic. Why in Arabic? He could’ve just said that in English. He does so as an belittling tactic because he knows the guy isn’t an Arabic speaker

Ustadh not gonna lie you should talk a bit more softly I know you should be stern against ahlul bidah but just speak with a bit of a softer tone BarakAllahufeekum

29:55 i did not know about that subhanallah. Thats extreme

This Hanafi also not Following Hanfi Mazhab, Imam Hanafiy wasn’t Motrudiy !

لو كان الشعب الجزايري يتبعك يعرفك كما انت لسبوك و لأخذت طريحة اينما ذهبت يا شمسي لهذا لا تكذب على الشعب الجزائري الذي كره المغرب الشفيق كله بسبب التطبيع الشعب الجزائري يكره التكبيع حكومة و شعبا اقسم غير البزاق و السقلة حتى تخرج من الجزائر يا الإنجليزي

This Guy needs to know that every Imam or every Scholar has their own expertise in any subject. You can't say they know all.

29:57 someone has to give the referencr for this, it's outrageous you can make a claim like this withoht backing it. It's setting up the phenomena of just randomly saying things without qualifying them.

Anyone wanna chat debate on the topic of taqleed (blind following)?

Barakallah feek br. Shamsi. I'm a Salafi too, I agree with most of what you say, but unfortunately I disagree with the imam Malik's argument. Our scholars quote that to show humility and knowledge of Imam Malik, and you have used it to show his lack. It would not harm your dawah if you remove this video and clarify the mistake in a video. I know you are a straight forward honest brother, and please accept this small request from your brother.

Mashalla

" brother you're too calm for me, I can't speak to you" 😂😂

No imam Malik said I don’t know they weren’t fiqh or aqidah or anything they were questions regarding some other stuff

May Allah protect you our Salafi brother From deviant groups Harigji Ihfani Hizb Eshaari Maturidi Sufi Shia etc. Greetings from Kosovo We love you for the sake of Allah The Harijs have made our life and dave difficult Because of their deviant actions.

It's important to note that using these so-called prayer beads is not in accordance with the Sunnah. I think They may belong to a different religion and Muslims who follow bidah/innovation started using them back in the day

A lot of hanafis are blind followers.

Shamsi is bang on as usual but the delivery to this guy was poor he wasn’t understanding so it was like shamsi had no patience for him 🤷‍♂️

Who is the brother with those bits of commentary in the back hahaha

What language?

Brother shamsi please debate shia's such as rafed responds and sayf. They are whispering doubts about the religion in many ears

شامسي قال نفس الكلام الي قال وسيم يوسف مع انه اخ شامسي لا يتفق معه لاكن كثير من الناس وقفو ضد وسيم يوسف على كلامه سبحان الله …اخ شامسي من احسن الدعاة الي موجودين في الغرب الله يحفظه و يحميه من كل شر و كل الي يعادونه يا انهم اخونجية او شيع او اصحاب الاحزاب