French left defeats far-right in huge election shock | LBC analysed

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After France's election twist, James O'Brien speaks to Paris Bureau Chief for The Economist, Sophie Pedder.
A Left wing coalition has topped the French election, but they failed to win outright majority in a bruising night for Emmanuel Macron and Marine Le Pen.
National Rally leader Le Pen had been slated to win a majority ahead of the vote but a late surge for the left and a return to popularity for President Emmanuel Macron saw the forecast results turned on their head.
Sophie Pedder tells James O'Brien that Emmanuel Macron 'has not emerged stronger' on the other side of his 'election gamble', as she analyses the results.
Sophie Pedder also draws attention to Emmanuel Macron's loss of 'about 100 deputies', which came as a shock to many.
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@MMenance
@MMenance 13 күн бұрын
Goes to show what the Left is capable of, if only they postpone their infighting until AFTER the election 😅
@thezeronelite
@thezeronelite 13 күн бұрын
Being a hard left type myself, this is completely true
@jaisriram295
@jaisriram295 13 күн бұрын
​@@thezeronelitesorry who won the popular vote?
@steplu2916
@steplu2916 13 күн бұрын
​@@thezeronelite is it the tradition of the left to fight among themselves?
@jjefferyworboys8138
@jjefferyworboys8138 13 күн бұрын
Le Pen had a much stepper hill to climb. The lefts coalition won't last long.
@patrickvernon4766
@patrickvernon4766 13 күн бұрын
Not just left but conservatives center right and fake right
@sammy532
@sammy532 13 күн бұрын
French here. The analyst got one thing wrong : the left alliance mostly disagrees on the form(especially on foreign relations) but they got along on most issues in their manifesto : pensions, tax, anti racism, increase of minimum wages, ecological transition (except on nuclear energy), Gaza, Ukraine, etc. They’re actually the only political offer that had a wide and very complete manifesto.
@TheDropdeadZed
@TheDropdeadZed 13 күн бұрын
Doesn't surprise me. The stupidest left wing politician is still usually smarter than the best the right wing have to offer.
@criticalThinkerLad
@criticalThinkerLad 13 күн бұрын
To call working class people far right whilst the privallaged and disgruntled preach to the masses of morility is the reality of this sitituation
@xaviertrujillo506
@xaviertrujillo506 13 күн бұрын
@@criticalThinkerLadmany of the left bloc voters were working class, the far right supporters were all wearing fancy suits and tuxedos and macron voters tend to be quite middle class
@eveningstar7812
@eveningstar7812 13 күн бұрын
@@criticalThinkerLadnobody is calling the working class far right. We are calling the dummies far right. If you conflate the two things that speaks to your own classism.
@StanleyKubick1
@StanleyKubick1 12 күн бұрын
@@criticalThinkerLad *privileged *morality *situation (you should critically think about cracking a book)
@Keln02
@Keln02 13 күн бұрын
To resume the french system: First round, you vote for the guy you like. Second round, you kick out the guy you like the least
@annepoitrineau5650
@annepoitrineau5650 13 күн бұрын
Yes, I like this. I summarise it that way: 2nd round is confirmation+correction.
@craphead9842
@craphead9842 13 күн бұрын
Rigged.... Tony cuenca
@yann664
@yann664 13 күн бұрын
First round you make a protest vote, then you look at who is likely to win and make a vote that you feel matters.
@Paul_Ward
@Paul_Ward 13 күн бұрын
Two rounds makes sense. It gives apathetic voters the chance to see what could happen if they don't exercise their right to vote.
@leon45sant
@leon45sant 13 күн бұрын
Omg their system prevents vote splitting it's genius. Like ranked choice.
@jean-marcknight8816
@jean-marcknight8816 13 күн бұрын
It's not perfect but it allows you to speak your mind first then make your final decision based on what is left.
@agt155
@agt155 13 күн бұрын
@@jean-marcknight8816 Le Pen won a higher vote share second time.
@TheDropdeadZed
@TheDropdeadZed 13 күн бұрын
Their system is still pretty bad. It's basically still FPTP and with a split vote in the 1st round the 2nd round doesn't narrow up hugely. Ranked choice voting or even doing a straight up top 2 finisher runoff would be better.
@kjh4496
@kjh4496 13 күн бұрын
@@agt155And she was defeated by the people voting. Democracy prevailed.
@FionaJane-vc2tw
@FionaJane-vc2tw 13 күн бұрын
Can we all just celebrate that this shows the majority do not want the toxicity of people like Le Pen's and Farage's politics.
@kevinwilliams1421
@kevinwilliams1421 13 күн бұрын
Or the French have been replaced
@craigedwards7062
@craigedwards7062 13 күн бұрын
​@kevinwilliams1421 looked more like residents from a 3rd world country than French people in vids I've seen😂😂
@pauls3204
@pauls3204 13 күн бұрын
Not the right who are rioting mate
@missrose0077
@missrose0077 13 күн бұрын
The Euro has taken a nice upward bounce since Francis election results.
@danielbarrass4402
@danielbarrass4402 13 күн бұрын
You will become like the middle east, dangerous and divided
@wraith7707
@wraith7707 13 күн бұрын
Cant believe a Centrist actually DID something and didnt just sit around validating actual facists. Well done France
@jayr9952
@jayr9952 13 күн бұрын
When that happens here you can be sure James O'Brien will do a complete 180 and announce we should give Farage a chance.
@joee8278
@joee8278 13 күн бұрын
@@jayr9952 what makes you say that?
@annepoitrineau5650
@annepoitrineau5650 13 күн бұрын
@@jayr9952 Based on what?????
@HenriNioto
@HenriNioto 13 күн бұрын
Actually, all Macron did during the last two years is to get closer and closer to the NR... He just used the Republican Front as a way to win more seats at the National Assembly. I expect absolutely no principles from this man, at this point...
@RextheRebel
@RextheRebel 13 күн бұрын
The "actual fascists" were Frances only hope for survival. Now the country is doomed..
@mysteriousfox88
@mysteriousfox88 13 күн бұрын
high turnouts always swing left
@django3422
@django3422 13 күн бұрын
Because the vast majority of people, at its most fundamental, will always choose freedom.
@Light-lp8rn
@Light-lp8rn 13 күн бұрын
Out of the top five voter turnouts in the U.K three have been conservative and two Labour. In France the top five voter turnouts saw three right wing parties win, 1 left wing, and 1 centrist.
@annepoitrineau5650
@annepoitrineau5650 13 күн бұрын
@@Light-lp8rn Thank you, interesting stats.
@kanglongshankz3313
@kanglongshankz3313 13 күн бұрын
@@django3422 NR had 3 million more votes than anyone else, 'vast majority' should be substituted for electoral system.
@django3422
@django3422 13 күн бұрын
@@kanglongshankz3313 But not more than everyone else combined.
@darrena2625
@darrena2625 13 күн бұрын
Thank goodness the majority of the French still remember/recall what happened the last time the far-right came into power with their neighbour, Germany.
@NewChannel-wi7vj
@NewChannel-wi7vj 13 күн бұрын
Yet Marine Le Pen's party (which is the one I guess you're calling "far right" although it's not) got more votes than any other. Weird that!
@Paragon62
@Paragon62 13 күн бұрын
You surrendered
@darrena2625
@darrena2625 13 күн бұрын
@@Paragon62 I'm a Brit, so, no
@danielbarrass4402
@danielbarrass4402 13 күн бұрын
There's nothing far right about wanting to protect culture and boards. Have you seen the violence from the left
@kanglongshankz3313
@kanglongshankz3313 13 күн бұрын
NR got 3 million more votes than anyone else so it's not quite 'the French' but the tactical voting in accordance with the electoral system which worked.
@user-em6ie2be7x
@user-em6ie2be7x 13 күн бұрын
LePenn's already crying it was stolen, it was rigged...Take your L with some dignity Lady.
@jamespaul6315
@jamespaul6315 13 күн бұрын
Dignity isnt really her thing
@MMAGamblingTips
@MMAGamblingTips 13 күн бұрын
Sounds like an orange man I know here in the states. 😅
@Gachavslife
@Gachavslife 13 күн бұрын
It was rigged.. By popular vote she won.. But again duplicate democracy in play
@user-nc2qj2jc5q
@user-nc2qj2jc5q 13 күн бұрын
Same as Trumpistas 😂
@jimwest7107
@jimwest7107 13 күн бұрын
That's not accurate. She has said RN is now stronger yet again but that tactical voting stopped RN winning.
@Alex-cw3rz
@Alex-cw3rz 13 күн бұрын
France 2 Nazi's 0
@user-is1if8vg5m
@user-is1if8vg5m 13 күн бұрын
Thank goodness 🙏
@rb1062
@rb1062 13 күн бұрын
Oh, grow up!
@francesco245
@francesco245 13 күн бұрын
M0R0N
@francesco245
@francesco245 13 күн бұрын
R34arded much, cI_Int?
@francesco245
@francesco245 13 күн бұрын
@@user-is1if8vg5m m0r0n
@paulstewart6293
@paulstewart6293 13 күн бұрын
On a fait la fête hier soir ! Crushing the faschos is the priority!!
@Trekfanwanda
@Trekfanwanda 13 күн бұрын
Congratulations to you all in France. Take lessons America!
@oan__
@oan__ 13 күн бұрын
Mon frère 🤝
@supereliptic
@supereliptic 13 күн бұрын
Well done from Ireland! Great result!
@danielgoring1328
@danielgoring1328 11 күн бұрын
What facism? The only facism came from the far-left when they threw a tantrum after the first round and decided to riot
@andrewrobinson2565
@andrewrobinson2565 13 күн бұрын
The French LEFT didn't defeat anyone. The WHOLE of the French electorate (Le Front Républicain) defeated Fascism . 🇫🇷🇪🇺 (Our seat went extreme right in the first round 😮.)
@haruhisuzumiya6650
@haruhisuzumiya6650 13 күн бұрын
Were you living in vichy France or close to the border
@andrewrobinson2565
@andrewrobinson2565 13 күн бұрын
@@haruhisuzumiya6650 Vichy France ended on 11th November 1942. Keep up child 🚸. I'm French and live in the Hérault (have done all year since February 1989).
@simulationkoyo
@simulationkoyo 13 күн бұрын
France united as a whole to defeat the fascists.
@andrewrobinson2565
@andrewrobinson2565 13 күн бұрын
@@simulationkoyo +1 thanks for agreeing with me. 👍
@annepoitrineau5650
@annepoitrineau5650 13 күн бұрын
@@haruhisuzumiya6650 What exaclty do you know about Vichy France? Not very much based on your post.
@MarkKrebs
@MarkKrebs 13 күн бұрын
Frustration with the French system is entirely out of place. It's quite close to rank choice voting and gave the best possible result because of (& thank goodness for) the agreements for the third place candidate to stand down. ...and imagine the disaster, otherwise. If you take a non-partisan view you would have to agree that the outcome preferred by most has transpired.
@philippenachtergal6077
@philippenachtergal6077 13 күн бұрын
Yeah. When the choice presented is "Far right" or "anything else", most French people are still choosing "anything else". There is nothing undemocratic in the "republican alliance" that took place because the choice offered was clearly that. The RN isn't a collateral victim of an alliance, they are the explicit losers of a clear choice presented to the voters. (And they didn't really object to the anticipated elections before the final results so any criticism of that now is just hypocrisy)
@hurri7720
@hurri7720 13 күн бұрын
There is only one outdated out of place system in western Europe, the British system.
@TheDropdeadZed
@TheDropdeadZed 13 күн бұрын
@@philippenachtergal6077 If the RN wanted to win in the 2nd round, maybe they shouldn't hold political views that are so toxic to the majority of the French that they are unable to make political allies and even encourage their opponents to rally together to oppose them? Sounds like a skill issue to me!
@eyokirvideos7400
@eyokirvideos7400 13 күн бұрын
When you unite, you can defeat evil. A lesson to be learned for sure
@ThomasS-jf9kf
@ThomasS-jf9kf 13 күн бұрын
A lesson that I hope we Americans can learn from you!
@friendlybgaming5882
@friendlybgaming5882 13 күн бұрын
​@@ThomasS-jf9kf Trump 2024 👍
@user-bq7jp2tn8u
@user-bq7jp2tn8u 13 күн бұрын
True. The Islamic conquest of the west is right on schedule.
@Maelstromme
@Maelstromme 13 күн бұрын
@@friendlybgaming5882You’re subscribed to a pdf-file.
@rb1062
@rb1062 13 күн бұрын
Maybe have a close look at just what sort of coalition has taken power and their policies before you comment!
@brianferguson7840
@brianferguson7840 13 күн бұрын
The sun has risen on a freshly laundered Labour country. Ahh, the smell of freshly baked Thick sliced Competence, generously spread with integrity !
@PassiveAgressive319
@PassiveAgressive319 13 күн бұрын
👏👏👏👏👏👏
@samasoku
@samasoku 13 күн бұрын
Thats a nice fantasy but in reality nothing changed
@rb1062
@rb1062 13 күн бұрын
Shows how little ypu know about France or who these people are.
@gourkernow5694
@gourkernow5694 13 күн бұрын
​@@samasokubut unfair considering its been in for just 3 days so far. Or do you have a crystal ball?
@samasoku
@samasoku 13 күн бұрын
@@gourkernow5694 he said freshly laundered. nothing is laundered. if anything, you only changed the washmachine settings. lol
@grahamepigney8565
@grahamepigney8565 13 күн бұрын
I still can't see why this is such a shock. The French have been down this tactical voting route many times before in Presidential and Assembly elections with voters "holding their nose" and casting votes to keep the Rassemblement National (formerly the Front National) out. The worry has to be the growing support for the RN in the face of poor economic performance, concerns about immigration and unemployment levels. The next problem is that La France Insoumise, led by Jean-Luc Mélenchon, is not very popular either and the centreright through to the centre-left won't work with LFI or RN.
@Regenmacher175
@Regenmacher175 13 күн бұрын
Lots of left-wing candidates stood down in constituencies where they were in third place. Can't say the same for all of the Ensemble candidates who were in third place but at least the RN was not able to get an absolute majority. Strategic voting for the win. However, the RN should not be given the space to grow its movement, which means the NFP needs to fight harder and in united fashion for workers' rights and against the bigoty and hatred coming from the far-right. Sadly, between 2022 and now, nearly double the number of people voted for the RN and their reactionary talking points have made it into mainstream political discourse in France. It will take many years to undo this.
@DavidWalter-gz8ue
@DavidWalter-gz8ue 13 күн бұрын
It's because the Right wing media keep lying about Thier reports. Think about it, no french Citizen worth their salt would ever put another Viche into power ever again, after what happen with the Nazis, during the 2nd world War.
@khairulhelmihashim2510
@khairulhelmihashim2510 13 күн бұрын
economic prosperity is the key. far right politic thrives in economic uncertainty, seeking to place a blame on minorities.
@davidgaskin5417
@davidgaskin5417 13 күн бұрын
What is the great danger about the NR? I really don't know enough about french politics but it does feel that they have been painted with this far right label but I can't see why.
@TheDropdeadZed
@TheDropdeadZed 13 күн бұрын
All thanks to Macron and the centrists not actually offering a real alternative to the dogshit "solutions" the RN are proposing. And of course Macron and his allies are turning their noses up at the idea of working with the left, who might actually offer an alternative vision for France that would minimise Le Pen's support.
@brianferguson7840
@brianferguson7840 13 күн бұрын
IT'S NOT A SHOCK HERE IN FRANCE 🇨🇵🇨🇵🇨🇵 Nobody takes any notice of the Premier tour 🙄 And nobody expected the deuxiem tour to reflect the result. It hasn't done so for 50 years. Typical british media, can't even get the translation of le Penn's party correct F.F.S.😂😂
@ricaredi
@ricaredi 13 күн бұрын
Cry more!
@brianferguson7840
@brianferguson7840 13 күн бұрын
​​​@@ricaredi Cry ??? Because WE SOCIALISTS WON ?? 🤔🤔 Whats to Cry about.
@davidgaskin5417
@davidgaskin5417 13 күн бұрын
Thank you! I am surprised at how all the world media is saying " surprise result! ". As soon as there was talk about the left and centre coming together to manipulate the results, this was always going to happen.
@James_08_07
@James_08_07 13 күн бұрын
@@davidgaskin5417 Where else has the left and centre ever come together?! The surprise is justified because it's such a rare event globally.
@davidgaskin5417
@davidgaskin5417 13 күн бұрын
@@James_08_07 it's not that surprising for french politics. The centre wanted to keep power and the left sniffed a chance to claw back some ground that had been destroyed ( ironically by the centre government).
@GeensQuambit
@GeensQuambit 13 күн бұрын
Just right wingers continuing their L streak 😂
@lasttempoinparis
@lasttempoinparis 13 күн бұрын
52 years since its inception and going ! 😅
@woofolliesmydog8628
@woofolliesmydog8628 13 күн бұрын
You clearly don’t understand how this all works. But you will, as we watch the whole of France turn into Marseille and the UK into Luton or Bradford.
@premierboxinghighlights3608
@premierboxinghighlights3608 13 күн бұрын
@@woofolliesmydog8628that will never happen mate.
@Priority76
@Priority76 13 күн бұрын
@@woofolliesmydog8628 Awe, you all sad cause the fascists didn't win?😥
@simulationkoyo
@simulationkoyo 13 күн бұрын
same as in Britain. Total incompetence and circus from the far right.
@KaiserSaucy
@KaiserSaucy 13 күн бұрын
Shame we didn’t have a two round election system for Brexit…
@Youalleatmuffins
@Youalleatmuffins 13 күн бұрын
Give it time, there will be a way....
@aliancemd
@aliancemd 13 күн бұрын
“Second choice” is probably a faster way to do basically the same thing. “This is my ideal but if they don’t win, I am willing to compromise with my compatriots, so this alternative is closest to my values/needs” - I actually think that “second choice” is even more democratic because at times you have to compromise and go with your second best choice that other of your compatriots also potentially compromise on.
@clownofthetimes6727
@clownofthetimes6727 13 күн бұрын
@@Youalleatmuffins Labour says no.The UK will never accept freedom of movement again. Freedom of movement meant the poorest within UK`s society stayed poor.
@Weakeyedominant
@Weakeyedominant 13 күн бұрын
Brexit only had 2 choices. The whole point of the double ballot is to try to narrow it down to 2 choices.
@Dacheerio
@Dacheerio 13 күн бұрын
dude, move on its been 8 years.
@julianshepherd2038
@julianshepherd2038 13 күн бұрын
Allies 1 Axis 0
@ffsno9078
@ffsno9078 13 күн бұрын
Allies 2 Axis 0 The left took back uk
@danielgoring1328
@danielgoring1328 13 күн бұрын
Another one that has drank the kool-aide of the MSM propoganda
@MrPhantom1961
@MrPhantom1961 13 күн бұрын
This just shows the lunacy of proportional representation in its current format. There is now a power vacuum in France which doesn't benefit anyone in the country.
@meumnomen
@meumnomen 13 күн бұрын
The trend recently is just call it rigged and unfair if you lost because you couldn't possibly lose because no one wants your policies 😅
@ct5625
@ct5625 13 күн бұрын
They have to claim it's rigged otherwise they would have to admit the majority of their online audience is made of Russian and Chinese bot accounts.
@kevinsmarts9953
@kevinsmarts9953 13 күн бұрын
It was nice to see so many Tories not fall into that trap.
@kanglongshankz3313
@kanglongshankz3313 13 күн бұрын
'No one' they had the largest share of the vote. You have the electoral system to thank.
@SonBarbock
@SonBarbock 11 күн бұрын
"no one wants France to remain French." Ok have fun.
@whererosemaryflourishes
@whererosemaryflourishes 13 күн бұрын
I'm an Australian-French citizen and live in Marseille. You can add me to the 'relieved' list. My opinion is that Macron knew what he was doing. This was no mistake and the outcome is pretty much the best he could hope for (and probably predicted) given a political climate that is largely against him and his style of governing/narcissicism. His party performed second best when few seemed to imagine that was possible. Including moi.
@joelhungerford8388
@joelhungerford8388 13 күн бұрын
Let me guess you're either a green or Labor voter 😂
@tmcdowell5986
@tmcdowell5986 13 күн бұрын
Rural Pennsylvania here. Thank you James. Things are getting interesting. Shove Left.
@user-ol6rd7pl5t
@user-ol6rd7pl5t 13 күн бұрын
Well done to the French Risistence .
@patricequinn7733
@patricequinn7733 12 күн бұрын
Congratulations on your upset victory,but retirement at 60??????????What does that do to the economy?
@edwardargles9329
@edwardargles9329 12 күн бұрын
Why aren’t they called the “far left”?
@zenster1097
@zenster1097 11 күн бұрын
Because they're not. Just because these idts (yes I misspelled purposefully because of youtube) think everything is far-right doesn't mean the other side is far-left.
@ShawnMatheson-rw5xm
@ShawnMatheson-rw5xm 8 күн бұрын
Because they're not communists. Anyone who believes in capitalism is not "far left"
@mcnetchaiev
@mcnetchaiev 12 күн бұрын
It's not actually a shock, because the French system isn't FPTP meaning all the other parties allied against the RN in the second round (something known as the "Front républicain"). What is worrying is that the far right gets over a third of the vote share but fortunately in a direct face-off against any other candidate, 1/3 of the vote means you lose more often than not. The RN is at an all-time high but they are still some way off getting into power despite going from 88 to 140 something seats. No pasaran!
@James_08_07
@James_08_07 13 күн бұрын
The French system makes so much sense.
@TheBarnster75
@TheBarnster75 13 күн бұрын
The BBC said this could well happen so i don't think its a shock. But everything needs to be hyped these days to give the media something to bang on about.
@dibdab101
@dibdab101 13 күн бұрын
exactly that. I am French and I was convinced that the shy voters would sense the danger and would come out en masse to reject the far right. And I was proven right. not exactly a surprise...but relieved all the same.
@MrPireotis
@MrPireotis 13 күн бұрын
I am pretty sure that Sophie is very sad that the Tories were demolished... Yes, pretty sure!
@kyecypress
@kyecypress 13 күн бұрын
There is no equivalent to the French Left in the UK .... Macrons alliance is more aligned with the UK Labour party
@scarletpimpernel353
@scarletpimpernel353 12 күн бұрын
Marie le Pen. :far right ?? > wrong description... " right of the middle " - as for extremism...I would quote the Far Left as extremists ! Looking at what they have done ..We will now see an ideologically fractured France.
@Leogunner2
@Leogunner2 13 күн бұрын
Real democxracy, avoiding things like leaving the EU and allowing a clown to gain power. Think on.
@golach420
@golach420 13 күн бұрын
3-way candidates in the second round is actually relatively rare.
@kaira9094
@kaira9094 13 күн бұрын
So much for that rise of the Right wing in Europe eh? haha
@sparks1792
@sparks1792 13 күн бұрын
They have 150 seats. Also the Left has to lead for 3 years with no majority. They’ll be more unpopular in the end because they can’t govern.
@jackhewitt600
@jackhewitt600 13 күн бұрын
Netherlands, Belgium and Germany all on the rise.
@kevlivinginabox
@kevlivinginabox 13 күн бұрын
Right wing are the loud minority
@Minimmalmythicist
@Minimmalmythicist 13 күн бұрын
Oh the far right is getting bigger, the FN have never had so many MPs.
@alanhat5252
@alanhat5252 13 күн бұрын
Don't count your chickens till they've hatched
@anugranmathimugan2778
@anugranmathimugan2778 13 күн бұрын
Very interesting outsiders like this lady view it as a shock because Auclair and other French predicted this a week or two ago.
@lasttempoinparis
@lasttempoinparis 13 күн бұрын
Our _Republican Reflex_ ... nuttin' new 😊
@DenkyManner
@DenkyManner 13 күн бұрын
Before an election you can find people who will predict every outcome. Drawing a line back to the ones who were right after the result says nothing. No one knows the future. La Penn herself was certain she'd take power and was shocked. Hindsight is 20/20
@user-sf7kl9uh7k
@user-sf7kl9uh7k 11 күн бұрын
They're all going to retire at 55!
@skreety0455
@skreety0455 12 күн бұрын
The dumbest press loves"divided".😂😂
@VaucluseVanguard
@VaucluseVanguard 13 күн бұрын
This comparison of Melenchon with Corbyn is nonsense. Melenchon is closer to someone like Lenin. Corbyn for all his faults is a democrat; Melenchon is not.
@artistreality
@artistreality 13 күн бұрын
I don't agree with her politics BUT let's not pretend the left and right didn't use in my opinion undemocratic means to make sure it didn't happen. That's why if Britain ever has Proportional representational voting it must be illegal to stand down candidates in areas to attempt to keep out a party. I called this out when Farage did the same to not split the vote with Boris Johnson. All you do is breed anger at the electoral system. Look at Britain today, 80% of eligible voters didn't vote for Labour and not a peep from my side of the political spectrum on the left. Yet if that was the Tories my side would be demanding reform to the voting system.
@gourkernow5694
@gourkernow5694 13 күн бұрын
Labour members are mostly pro PR, none of the tory party are. So if you get it, it will be Labour that implement it after a referendum, most likely in a second term if they get one.
@mickjenner6697
@mickjenner6697 13 күн бұрын
French left ??? So not far left , left , left of center and center, green , red , conglomeration
@kevinsmarts9953
@kevinsmarts9953 13 күн бұрын
France is only ever 3 colours.
@jazzx251
@jazzx251 13 күн бұрын
That's what it takes to resist fascism
@danielgoring1328
@danielgoring1328 11 күн бұрын
The only display of facism came from the far-left. They're the ones that rioted and threw a tantrum when they didn't get their way in the first round.
@donalobrien7582
@donalobrien7582 13 күн бұрын
O'B Please, go and get yourself a Job & don't forget to call into the Shrink. Any Chance of a Bar
@ansc6472
@ansc6472 11 күн бұрын
Goodbye France
@Jin420
@Jin420 13 күн бұрын
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@johnclifford544
@johnclifford544 13 күн бұрын
The French populace, after all their disagreements, realize that Russia, China and the other dictatorships in the world are not utopias.
@7QHook
@7QHook 13 күн бұрын
but Isl*m is ? lol
@NewChannel-wi7vj
@NewChannel-wi7vj 13 күн бұрын
What?
@jimseltzer2002
@jimseltzer2002 13 күн бұрын
How do you come to that vacuous conclusion. ? just a loose grouping of anarchists, islamists and student agitators. Watch what they do.
@Dave-qx3yz
@Dave-qx3yz 13 күн бұрын
Yes, the ne thing they have in common is the are Communist LEFT WING dictatorships, just like France
@dennisduncan7561
@dennisduncan7561 13 күн бұрын
Who said they were?
@transvestosaurus878
@transvestosaurus878 13 күн бұрын
most French outcome
@hbowman108
@hbowman108 13 күн бұрын
Of course they aren't going to do much for a while. Les grandes vacances are France's leading national institution. Nothing gets done in August, as it should be.
@ganrimmonim
@ganrimmonim 13 күн бұрын
I would make a comment about unwise election timings and a disunited nation. However, "those who live in glass houses..."
@philippenachtergal6077
@philippenachtergal6077 13 күн бұрын
"days if not weeks" before a new government. Gee, if that was Belgium it would be "months if not years"... But yeah, they could setup a technocratic government relatively quickly. I don't see a majority coalition government in a matter of weeks.
@philippenachtergal6077
@philippenachtergal6077 13 күн бұрын
Copy of what I wrote on Phil's channel: To have a majority government would requires Macron and his allies to ally with the left. But I don't see the communist part of the left joining that and, more importantly in terms of seats, Melanchon has expressed his strong opposition to the idea. A center-left government requires la france insoumise (Melanchon's party) to reach a majority so unless Melanchon changes his mind , which is unlikely, or his party splits (not just the NFP coalition but his actual party) which is also unlikely, it cannot be a majority government. You could imagine a national union with the center, the conventional right and part of the left (without the communists and la France insoumise) but that also seems very hard to setup. I also don't see any risk of the center joining the far-right given their position during the second turn of the elections. So we seems headed for a technocratic minority government. No matter what option, it will be hard to defeat the far right in the next elections because it will be hard for the country to make many political progresses in the current circumstances. Too much of the medias are in right wing border far right hands.
@lasttempoinparis
@lasttempoinparis 13 күн бұрын
May I remind you that Northern Ireland holds the European Record far ahead of Belgium. 😏
@malcolmmitchell6529
@malcolmmitchell6529 13 күн бұрын
If you don't care, don't go on air.
@st.george007
@st.george007 13 күн бұрын
Is North Korea an example of an undivided state?
@cynthiabarrow509
@cynthiabarrow509 10 күн бұрын
Did they steal it?
@michaelmccarthy9411
@michaelmccarthy9411 13 күн бұрын
I don't see any surprise in this. French elections are always decided in the second round!
@anthonymichaelwilson8401
@anthonymichaelwilson8401 13 күн бұрын
Incredible 😊
@MalTimeTV
@MalTimeTV 13 күн бұрын
The broad church left coalition that the analyst refers to here does have its disagreements (particularly over France's NATO membership, reform of European institutions, and the role of nuclear energy in the green transition) but it also has a powerful shared program (particularly around reversing Macron's recent welfare and retirement 'reforms', the implementation of green transition policies, moving France to a system of proportional representation, anti-racism etc). So, personally, I wouldn't get carried away on the differences for now.
@sirloin8745
@sirloin8745 13 күн бұрын
What about the Judean People's Front?
@StaggerLee1468
@StaggerLee1468 13 күн бұрын
@@sirloin8745 SPLITTERS!!
@Fredric_Cedrich
@Fredric_Cedrich 13 күн бұрын
Where are all the weird accounts with two names followed by a serial number?
@joelhungerford8388
@joelhungerford8388 13 күн бұрын
Like mine?
@andrewrobinson2565
@andrewrobinson2565 13 күн бұрын
France closes in August every year 😊.
@SuperFree06
@SuperFree06 13 күн бұрын
And in spite all the electoral chaos in both Britain and France - rank order preferential voting is still rejected by the political geniuses in both countries.
@MrPhantom1961
@MrPhantom1961 13 күн бұрын
Don't you just love politics in Italy. 😉
@SuperFree06
@SuperFree06 13 күн бұрын
@@MrPhantom1961 Rank order preferential is not proportional. It requires the winning candidate to be preferred by more than 50% of voters.
@SiriusMined
@SiriusMined 13 күн бұрын
The left and Center left have plenty in common. I don't think it's going to be as divided as everyone thinks
@SenorPenor1337
@SenorPenor1337 13 күн бұрын
I'm centre-left and I don't want the left in power. Communism doesn't work (we need regulated capitalism) and the left want to leave the EU.
@joelhungerford8388
@joelhungerford8388 13 күн бұрын
It's not just left and centre left. Waving communist flags is nothing less than far left
@markgoestofrankfurt
@markgoestofrankfurt 13 күн бұрын
Farago: But but its a stitchup by the establishment , i hate democratic elections
@MrPhantom1961
@MrPhantom1961 13 күн бұрын
Who's Farago?
@markgoestofrankfurt
@markgoestofrankfurt 13 күн бұрын
@@MrPhantom1961 farage
@SonBarbock
@SonBarbock 11 күн бұрын
Coming from the side that have more elections until they win and riot when they lose 💀💀 ..or win, for that matter. Backwards bunch.😊
@meneurdujeu
@meneurdujeu 13 күн бұрын
Looked end of the day, the voting system is waaaaay better than in the UK. You get through the second round, and a majority has to be won in the run off. I don't understand why anybody thought the silent majority wouldn't back any opposition to the far-right. Can I just say that is horrendously repressed Scottish accent - you're Scottish, let it go.
@Rich-ng3yy
@Rich-ng3yy 13 күн бұрын
In Macron's presidential election he won on the second ballot despite not having a staggering support in the first. The centre right and the centre and the left came together to back a not stunningly popular choice against extremism and the second ballot got him elected. The first and second ballots are always very different. This was not a presidential election but his party stood and he is now even more unpopular so there were always going to be a certain number of people who gold their noses and vote le penn as she feigns respectability. The second ballot with less candidates is always very different when faced with a stark choice between le penn and anything else... She has her base supporters plus the remaining nose holders vs a widely disliked Macron's party.. more nose holding and an alternative centrist and left and far left coalition. It isn't all that suprising that centre left supporters felt ok to join the left where they disliked Macron and had to vote against le penn. If Britain had done the same in the 'Brexit election' before this one then Britain would not have had Brexit without a second referendum and the chaos and incompetence and ecconomics of the last term of office. I don't think what happened in france was all that shocking if you're outide the too close to the problem media. It's more a relief than anything else.
@bencarter8238
@bencarter8238 9 күн бұрын
Macrons wife is a lovely man 😃
@pauls3204
@pauls3204 13 күн бұрын
Not the right who are rioting it it !
@mu6qy
@mu6qy 13 күн бұрын
Take a drink evertime they say 'FaR RigHT'
@mohammadhaider8946
@mohammadhaider8946 13 күн бұрын
What makes you disdainful of them defining what they define as far right? You don't agree with the definition?
@SenorPenor1337
@SenorPenor1337 13 күн бұрын
​@@mohammadhaider8946the far right and extremists hate being called to far right and extremists
@danielgoring1328
@danielgoring1328 13 күн бұрын
​@SenorPenor1337 the extremism came from the rioting far-left as per usual. Though I know leftists prefer to ignore this.
@gostepsenglish4431
@gostepsenglish4431 13 күн бұрын
Why not the 'far left'?
@stevejam767
@stevejam767 13 күн бұрын
Its a deal not a victory.
@NewChannel-wi7vj
@NewChannel-wi7vj 13 күн бұрын
Correct!
@annepoitrineau5650
@annepoitrineau5650 13 күн бұрын
And what is wrong with that?
@TheWaveGoodbye-Music
@TheWaveGoodbye-Music 13 күн бұрын
See what happens james when you centerists side with your socialist allies instead of engaging in footballification (which O'Brien constantly says he doesn't do) you could've helped keep Boris and Sunak out but you opted for footballification and partisan poltics. Something of which he accuses the left of quite a lot
@Toto-cl8rw
@Toto-cl8rw 13 күн бұрын
This is the best news ever, La Penn and her far right party lost 100 seats. She does not represent the majority thus was rejected. The French public voiced their opinion in votes.
@agt155
@agt155 13 күн бұрын
What you mean lost 100 seats? They gained 60 seats and had the highest vote share.
@Toto-cl8rw
@Toto-cl8rw 13 күн бұрын
@@agt155 show me. I need verification.
@Toto-cl8rw
@Toto-cl8rw 13 күн бұрын
@@agt155 if they had the highest vote share they would not be in third place. The vote shows the La Penn party had a very small vote share.
@agt155
@agt155 13 күн бұрын
@@Toto-cl8rw RN (Le Pen) 38% NFP 25% En 24% They are lying to you.
@Toto-cl8rw
@Toto-cl8rw 13 күн бұрын
@@agt155 actually it was NPF 32.6 % En 27.9
@manco828
@manco828 13 күн бұрын
Le Pen humiliation?
@jayr9952
@jayr9952 13 күн бұрын
It's a very divided Britain
@Frederique41
@Frederique41 13 күн бұрын
Mélanchon is not an extremist and it is not a miracle that the left has won. Mélanchon has been around for a long time and has been campaigning with or without the other lefties. All lefties talk to one another despite the lack of understanding on some subjects. Being diverse does not mean being divided!
@jimseltzer2002
@jimseltzer2002 13 күн бұрын
Watch what happens. He seems as bright as Mark Drakeford.
@SenorPenor1337
@SenorPenor1337 13 күн бұрын
He wants to leave the EU. He is bad news.
@cycleguy1943
@cycleguy1943 9 күн бұрын
France- ISTAN😮
@neillaw
@neillaw 13 күн бұрын
I see no far right, only a lot of far left...
@danielgoring1328
@danielgoring1328 13 күн бұрын
The left prefers to ignore that part as the truth hurts their feelings.
@AvisSapiens
@AvisSapiens 13 күн бұрын
If that is genuinely the case that's more of a self-indictment than an actual comment on reality. You're telling on yourself.
@SweetJeopardy
@SweetJeopardy 13 күн бұрын
You need to get your eyes checked then.
@neillaw
@neillaw 13 күн бұрын
@@AvisSapiens reality is clearly different for all, I see a lot of anger from the far left though, all the political violence in Europe comes from the far left, which says a lot regards the spectrum of what is currently perceived and coerced within the media and reality
@SonBarbock
@SonBarbock 11 күн бұрын
​@@SweetJeopardyyou people are hopeless (I use "people" loosely).
@donmcmillan4388
@donmcmillan4388 13 күн бұрын
Hopefully America elects the right King.
@jaisriram295
@jaisriram295 13 күн бұрын
Who won the popular vote?
@NewChannel-wi7vj
@NewChannel-wi7vj 13 күн бұрын
The right, by far.
@MrPhantom1961
@MrPhantom1961 13 күн бұрын
No one. There will be a prolonged period of in-fighting now between the parties before they decide they can't work together and they have to go back to the electorate. Don't you just love PR.🤣🤣🤣
@joelhungerford8388
@joelhungerford8388 13 күн бұрын
The left don't care about that now
@dufud
@dufud 13 күн бұрын
French far left you mean .
@emillion4470
@emillion4470 13 күн бұрын
Europe's Right Wing Fever broke - next up, America.
@SonBarbock
@SonBarbock 11 күн бұрын
That why the RN is gaining more and more seats?
@marcusalkemade5994
@marcusalkemade5994 13 күн бұрын
Love you, France! 🇫🇷
@bavariancarenthusiast2722
@bavariancarenthusiast2722 13 күн бұрын
What a great news this morning - the pendulum is swinging back from the extreme right towards the center - see Britain and now France. Don´t forget Poland before too.
@rb1062
@rb1062 13 күн бұрын
Until you find out what an extreme left government will do to you.
@jimseltzer2002
@jimseltzer2002 13 күн бұрын
It isn't over until it is. A shallow temporary victory which will be rapidly eroded by events.
@bavariancarenthusiast2722
@bavariancarenthusiast2722 13 күн бұрын
@@jimseltzer2002 yeah maybe but for now its a huge success
@annepoitrineau5650
@annepoitrineau5650 13 күн бұрын
Yes...and I am sure that my friends and colleagues who went back to Poland played a role in defeating the anti-women's rights right!
@FactThis
@FactThis 13 күн бұрын
Keep in mind RN won the most votes and gained the most seats.
@greamespens1460
@greamespens1460 13 күн бұрын
Far Right yawn
@danielgoring1328
@danielgoring1328 13 күн бұрын
The term 'far-right' has no meaning anymore
@tombranch2261
@tombranch2261 13 күн бұрын
@@danielgoring1328 Has the same meaning its always had.
@dankprole7884
@dankprole7884 13 күн бұрын
Nice
@daveyboy7964
@daveyboy7964 13 күн бұрын
Two down....Trump to go!!! Vive La France!
@SonBarbock
@SonBarbock 11 күн бұрын
I'll bet these things are true: you don't know what a woman is, you're young, you never owned a house, you don't have a skilled job.
@daveyboy7964
@daveyboy7964 11 күн бұрын
@@SonBarbock you’ve got no idea…. Have ya?
@SonBarbock
@SonBarbock 11 күн бұрын
@@daveyboy7964 I have ya. And some extra paint also if you want to add it to your clown makeup.
@DollyMiddleton-ke1yp
@DollyMiddleton-ke1yp 13 күн бұрын
The people have spoken!!! The futures so bright, the French needs to wear shades.
@MrPhantom1961
@MrPhantom1961 13 күн бұрын
What drug have you been taking!!?
@NewChannel-wi7vj
@NewChannel-wi7vj 13 күн бұрын
*LBC CENSORS COMMENTS !!!*
@beatpeace879
@beatpeace879 13 күн бұрын
If all three works together to make their country better for the people then i would call that democracy
@davidjamesaustin
@davidjamesaustin 13 күн бұрын
RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT YOU PLANKS
@richardlewis7498
@richardlewis7498 13 күн бұрын
She says far right but never far left 😅😅😅
@ML-oq8cu
@ML-oq8cu 13 күн бұрын
Because the ''conseil d'état'' has gave a ruling that said that LFI wasn't a far left party but only a left party. It has also stated that the RN was a far right party.
@ct5625
@ct5625 13 күн бұрын
Because this is a story about the far-right being beaten by a left-leaning and centrist COALITION. If she was talking about a far-left party being beaten by a right-leaning and centrist coalition she would be referring to the far-left.
@danielgoring1328
@danielgoring1328 13 күн бұрын
​@ct5625 it included the French communist party, which is far-left.
@ML-oq8cu
@ML-oq8cu 13 күн бұрын
@@danielgoring1328 Wrong the PCF (french communist party) is classify as a left party not a far-left party. So RN = far-right LFI= left PCF= left That's what said the ''conseil d'etat'' aka the highest administrative court in France. That's the law. I dont care that you disagree with this ruling.
@SonBarbock
@SonBarbock 11 күн бұрын
​@@ct5625ah so full blown self proclaimed communists are not far left. Ok then. Maybe go touch a little grass?
@davidjamesaustin
@davidjamesaustin 13 күн бұрын
Loony far left against far right then
@danielgoring1328
@danielgoring1328 13 күн бұрын
The most accurate comment I've seen here so far.
@williamadu-boahen4969
@williamadu-boahen4969 13 күн бұрын
LBC the French far left did not defeat the National Party. All the parties ganged up against one party, That is not democratic!
@petervinberg6823
@petervinberg6823 13 күн бұрын
Why is it not? Political parties are free to cooperate with whoever they want. Always been that way.
@meumnomen
@meumnomen 13 күн бұрын
Someone sounds butthurt 😢
@OneEyeShadow
@OneEyeShadow 13 күн бұрын
If their sales pitch is: "We will make sure that [party you don't like] doesn't come into power.", what's undemocratic about that? Sounds to me like that's the reason people voted for them.
@gourkernow5694
@gourkernow5694 13 күн бұрын
Voter turnout made the numbers possible, that was also a factor. Anyway, if there were alliances to be made on the right, they would have made them, would you still be complaining of they had done so and won?
@NewChannel-wi7vj
@NewChannel-wi7vj 13 күн бұрын
@@gourkernow5694 Correct! The right would've won easily if they weren't divided. So, until they don't get electorally smarter and keep refusing to ally with each other because of haughty principles, they will keep losing.
@mryou2434
@mryou2434 12 күн бұрын
France now called Frankenstan
@danielgoring1328
@danielgoring1328 11 күн бұрын
The commies I'm this comments section seem to love it 😂 they must really be looking forward to sharia law and complete lawlessness
@bumberClart1000
@bumberClart1000 13 күн бұрын
Same here except the fascists amongst us in our U.K., hide away. Keep it covert
@mahtabali4256
@mahtabali4256 13 күн бұрын
Send far right to far far right 😂
@anthonycarroll6434
@anthonycarroll6434 13 күн бұрын
Humans win🙃
@SonBarbock
@SonBarbock 11 күн бұрын
>humans >Leftists Pick one.
@chester6343
@chester6343 13 күн бұрын
Drink everytime they say far right. Should ask them what makes them "far right".. asking them to retire at 66 means you're far right in France..
@stevendurrant1724
@stevendurrant1724 13 күн бұрын
Having roots in collaboration with actual nazis probably counts, which might be why you run cover with Quizling rot.
@user-ms7ep9zw9y
@user-ms7ep9zw9y 13 күн бұрын
🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸
@trevorfurness5695
@trevorfurness5695 13 күн бұрын
Jeremy Corbyn is a moderate!!
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