Frenchic - AllCoat - Bedec - paint product review on a uPVC door panel

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Phil Beckwith The Professional Painter & Decorator

2 жыл бұрын

Get ready to witness a head-to-head comparison of three top-rated water-based paints specifically designed for uPVC. In this video, I will be conducting a comprehensive paint review of Frenchic Al Fresco, Zinsser AllCoat Exterior Satin, and Bedec MSP.
You'll witness me apply three coats of each product on a uPVC door panel while sharing the necessary prep work and brush application process for each paint. My aim is to provide you with an unbiased and honest evaluation of the performance of these products, as well as closely monitoring their durability over the next few months.
This review wouldn't have been possible without the support of MDT Windows Ltd (Nottingham, UK), who generously provided the old panel free of charge. Instead of ending up in the landfill, we are repurposing it in this video. If you're looking for top-quality windows and doors, make sure to check out their website at www.mdtwindows.co.uk.
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@kevinbeck6785 2 жыл бұрын

Brilliant video Phil will be painting my upvc front door when it gets a little warmer and still a bit worried about it, but after watching you painting with the frenchic, feel much happier now, again many thanks and you have given me some great tips. 😀😀

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 2 жыл бұрын

That's good to hear I've helped. Have you watched the follow up video scratch test?

@kevinbeck6785 2 жыл бұрын

@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator No will watch that cheers Phil

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 2 жыл бұрын

@@kevinbeck6785 how did you go on with it?

@kevinbeck6785 2 жыл бұрын

@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Looks great Phil, thank you for all the excellent tips you gave 😃😃

@soundmanmartin Жыл бұрын

@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator yes i saw the scratch test video..loving your channel me ould mucker

@lyndathurlow3505 2 жыл бұрын

I painted my back door using Frenchic Al Fresco wise old sage on the outside and Dazzle me, which is a bright white on the inside as the panels had become very discoloured. Prepped as Frenchic advise, washed down with sugar soap and lightly sanded to key the surface. I was so impressed with how the paint went on, it really is lovely to use. Bit scary after the first coat as I'd used it quite thinly. Second coat after 2 hours looked great. I did a third coat, but it didn't really need it and I was amazed at how little paint had gone out of that little pot! 18 months later the door looks as good as the day I painted it. Withstood the winter so well. I live high up in a very exposed area and the back of the house always takes the brunt of the bad weather, so I have been well impressed. That was my first Frenchic project and I have gone on to do many more since!

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 2 жыл бұрын

That's lovely to hear Lynda, I'd like to try their white to compare. Maybe some of my other videos may help you with projects in the future. But feel free to ask anything if you're stuck or unsure on anything decorating related.

@samrix5793 2 жыл бұрын

Great video nice to see a review even if a windy day

@stephaniewilkinson7020 9 ай бұрын

Hilarious, fantastic and very informative… definitely worth a try… thank you so much and I’m going to try and paint the whole of the brown UPVC the way you have shown x obviously not to your standard and will probably end up looking like your friends lol x

@craig5066 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve painted the front door with zinsser in pigeon colour (farrow & ball) but added a bit of floetrol which helps with self levelling of paint this worked out really well and scratch resistant two years down the line even after friends jack russell keeps having a good scratch on it.

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 2 жыл бұрын

that's good to know. Did you just use Zinsser AllCoat?

@craig5066 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah All-Coat exterior satin and was well chuffed with the results especially when getting compliments from neighbours.

@dean825 26 күн бұрын

Phil excellent video, very professional and impartial. Im building surveyor and very familiar with quality painting, specifically Zinser, however Frenchic is an interesting,if unexpected addition. Thank you very much 👍

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 26 күн бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 26 күн бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@dpHammer64 2 жыл бұрын

Love your videos Phil and this one is great timing as I’m looking at putting the Bedec through my hvlp and spray my fibreglass garage door. Pretty impressed by the Frenchie though so may have a rethink on that. By the way, I’m no pro just a DIYer. Big thumbs up for your vids.

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 2 жыл бұрын

Dave tnx .. as with anything... The washing down and prep is the key. Your garage door..... Any one of these three I'd not have any issues with.... What colour you thinking? My big gripe is whites are very poor to cover by brush/roller. Spray isn't such a problem as you're not physically applying the paint with a brush etc on the surface.

@dpHammer64 2 жыл бұрын

@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator going for the currently very popular Grey Phil so expecting it to turn out ok

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 2 жыл бұрын

@@dpHammer64 the ral7016 colour? Which hvlp have you got?

@dpHammer64 2 жыл бұрын

@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator I’ve got an Apollo Pro Spray 1500, only done a few bits and pieces with it so far but found it easy to use for an amateur at a good price and been achieving a pretty decent finish

@johnwalker6752 11 ай бұрын

Phil I have been all over the Internet looking for pvc paint reviews and here you are giving the people what they want in a language we can all understand Brilliant outstanding and with more than a smidgen of Ricky Gervais lol

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 11 ай бұрын

Like and share... Like and share. Check out my other content.. you may like that too. I cover loads of stuff. Over 300 uploads now.

@sydtrotter6357 Жыл бұрын

Really appreciate your clips

@markjarman7819 Жыл бұрын

Great review great entertainment using great brushes. Subscribed👍

@jaynegordon8680 Жыл бұрын

Ricky Gervais has some competition...absolutely brilliant!

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Жыл бұрын

Is that a back handed compliment? LoL

@claireedminson9440 2 жыл бұрын

Just bought some Frenchic and this vid came up after their official instruction vid, was so scared you were gonna give them a slagging 😂

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 2 жыл бұрын

Not at all. Watch the other videos I've done using Frenchic.

@1234luke1234luke 2 жыл бұрын

Subbed up bud great video was really interested to see some different products.

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Glad you liked it. Please comment on the 2k subscribers video... To be in with a chance to win a book!

@drexelspivey6472 Жыл бұрын

great video ,little bit crazy but makes me love it more , im planning on painting some of the pvc pannels in my motorhome bathroom and thinking the bedeck msp would be best for me but ill also buy the brushes you recommend

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Жыл бұрын

Hi, you've also watched the follow up video to this with the scratch test 29 days later? Don't bother with the Lidl brushes I've just done a vid on 😬

@nigelrodgers820 2 жыл бұрын

Love the colour

@ScrubbersGhost 2 жыл бұрын

Just convinced me to get some of the Frenchic and do the front door with the 3500. Great test and/video, VERY helpful Phil.

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 2 жыл бұрын

I've garden furniture to do.. I'm going to use it. Bedec very good too.

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 2 жыл бұрын

Have you seen the scratch test results?

@ScrubbersGhost 2 жыл бұрын

@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator The KolorBond video, yes. And am about to watch the follow up one to this 🤣

@ScrubbersGhost 2 жыл бұрын

@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Just ordered some Ol’ Blue eyes….I know you mentioned it’s self priming, but a coat of Leyland Undercoat/primer(sprayed) and 2 coats of this should be pretty bullet proof?

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 2 жыл бұрын

@@ScrubbersGhost what's the Leyland primer/UC for?

@markcrotty5910 2 жыл бұрын

Nice one keep them coming👍

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 2 жыл бұрын

Have you tried any of them?

@markcrotty5910 2 жыл бұрын

No I normally use zinsser 123 Brilliant videos

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 2 жыл бұрын

@@markcrotty5910 seems to be no need with these paints to so that. AllCoat is a self primer paint, have you used that much?

@markcrotty5910 2 жыл бұрын

Not yet mate will try it soon

@christophephilippe1481 2 жыл бұрын

ive painted our cabinets plenty and used all these paints plus tikkarilla floor paint for wet rooms. i can safely say MSP is Shite* scratches off no problem. by far tukkarilla is awesome doesnt scratch off and durable when cleaning. Hope this helps anyone

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 2 жыл бұрын

Have you seen this? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z599rdxi27jNXY0.html

@markbagley9972 Жыл бұрын

Hi Phil, great videos it helps so much so keep up the good work I have a roller shutter door to paint and people recommend 2k paint I've never used it so a bit skeptical do you think frenchic would be a better option ? Thanks

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Жыл бұрын

What's on the roller shutter at the moment?

@patsteeles7078 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Phil great video ! I used frenchic on my front upvc front door last year can i use the finishing coat ? and will it give it a slight sheen ?

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 2 жыл бұрын

Hi. Which did you use? The Al fresco does have a slight sheen anyway. What colour did you use?

@bds7188 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Phil , you did a scratch test after the drying time, with paint there is a curling time do you think that the scratch test would have had a different result if done after the the curling period

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 2 жыл бұрын

This is true and hence why the on going product test will be followed up with a 1 month on test. But going on a 2hr drying test... Only one passed the scratch test in that period of time. I thought I covered the curing time of paint when is at its best. But times many you see people moaning about paint scratching off... And they've only just done it lol

@kirpalsingh7977 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Phil great video very helpful just need some advice I am painting pvc door no grain, just needed to know what would be a good finish Matt or satin in bedec or frenchic if they do a satin?

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 2 жыл бұрын

Great idea, personal choice, the frenchic has a nice finish to it. the bedec on this test was a bit 'matt', but they do a satin/gloss that may be a bit better on the eye.

@kevinmellish8921 Жыл бұрын

Hi Phil great videos! I've got kitchen cupboard doors to spray, what hvlp and paint would you recommend to someone who hasn't sprayed before? Cheers Kev

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Жыл бұрын

Hi. Without spending £1k Have a look at the cheaper hvlp sprayers I demo... £40 and £65 ones from screw fix. They're easy to use. Will give a great result. Paint.... Bedec MSP AllCoat Or Frenchic. Other paints I demo you can use too. Depends what your after.

@bigdelmonk 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Phil, planning on doing my front door with....probably Zinsser - can I use the same paint and technique to do the garage door at the same time?!

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 2 жыл бұрын

Hi. You can. What is the material of tye front door and garage door? Remember, prep is the key. Fail to prepare... Is prepare to fail ;) Depending on what you're going over... Just check the small print on the Zinsser website for the all coat. They may advise a coat of 123 as a primer grip coat..... Yeah I know..... Even though they say it goes over everything ;) Have you watched the 29 days later scratch test? Bruce who replied on that thread is also the Zinsser Rep!!

@Stevedalton57 Жыл бұрын

I think I’ll try the Frenchic but would have liked to see that done in white. Was white not a available for the test?

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Жыл бұрын

Hi Steve, it was never a test on colour, more a test on how well it stands up to going on uPVC... have you seen the 29ays later scratch test video yet? Frenchic don't do a white... as we know it ..................It's called Dazzle Me!

@gavinblake6531 Жыл бұрын

Hi will the Bedec be ok on new wood without an undercoat, it says it dosnt need undercoat sceptical though. Ta

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Жыл бұрын

Correct. It's a multi surface paint... Just like the others tested. On bare wood I'd slightly thin the first coat so it does in.

@icedgems6651 Жыл бұрын

Quick question Phil, I about to paint my front door with frenchic paint. can I paint over the rubber seals?

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Жыл бұрын

If you watch my video of painting a uPVC door... I show you how I take the door panel out... Then you can remove the rubber. Then re fit everything. You can paint over the rubber, but expect it may move on panel and show a line that's not not painted as the panels expand and contract with the weather.

@Julieowens92 Жыл бұрын

I just bought all coat for my interior pvc windows (they are dark brown too). Should I do frenchic instead?!? It’s not too late for me to change

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Жыл бұрын

Or BEDEC MSP. ;)

@mushy_GLX 2 жыл бұрын

I think this test to be fair all should have been same colour. Plus some paints has been open so if the tin was used a year ago and something is just fresh I am guessing fresh should do a better job. Anyhow I applaud your effort. I need something that lasts, I will be doing soil downpipe and if I am happy with the paint then I will do the all windows and doors in grey.

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 2 жыл бұрын

have you watch the follow up scratch test video yet? Its a test how the products perform for adhesion on a upvc surface, the colour doesn't matter, we want to know do these paint work, straight out of the can on a Upvc surface, like they are being sold that they do.

@blastfromthepast8504 2 жыл бұрын

I used zinzar all coat and the finish for £60.00 half gal was very disappointing very ropey and laying off was very difficult to obtain an even finish

@darrenwilliams7741 2 жыл бұрын

Can I use this frenchic paint on wooden interior window cill

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 2 жыл бұрын

I can't see why not. It does virtually everything.

@eddt430 2 жыл бұрын

I'm looking at painting my pvc door. But I'm worried about the allcoat not sticking to the black rubber. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance. Great video by the way 👍🏻

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 2 жыл бұрын

Have a look at the video I did about painting a upvc door. Watch how I remove the panel and you can take off tye rubber. All coat will be fine. Small print says to use the 123 primer first after good prep. But the all coat should be fine on its own. It just takes a while to fully cure and harden off.

@eddt430 Жыл бұрын

@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Sorry for the late reply great tip on removing the panel. 👍🏻. I've just decorated my outside. I do prefer the MSP on the downpipes. Looks like a factory finish. Quality products are both.

@rose-qo3iy Жыл бұрын

Please help, i want to paint my doors and skirting boards white. I have spent a fews days on and off watching reviews and asking on face book for a good paint which will not yellow and will not wash off please can you advise me? I am not the best painter but not the worst either. My doors are ready to paint, but I have no paint and I don’t know how to move forward. Thank you for any advice and help. I would be most appreciated. Thank you.

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Жыл бұрын

You can try Bedec MSP is soft Satin. Easy to apply, two coats, won't go yellow. Cures fully in 30days

@helenalovelock1030 4 ай бұрын

Have you used the F&B exterior eggshell ? How does that compare to Frenchie and Zinsser ???

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 4 ай бұрын

Yes. But it's a primer/UC and a two top coat finish. Zinsser and Frenchic are a self priming/self Undercoating multi surface paint. You can't compare. It depends what sort of job you're doing

@adrianandrewrogers Жыл бұрын

Doesn’t the zinsser and msp take several days to fully garden

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Жыл бұрын

the longer the better, have you watched the follow up video yet? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z599rdxi27jNXY0.html

@neilmargetts5137 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Phil, have you ever sprayed with bedec?

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 2 жыл бұрын

Yes. Sprays good. I've a video çoming out next week where I use Bedec as the sample paint on a cheap hvlp

@Shortboxing47 2 жыл бұрын

Hi phill your number one fan here 😂😀 can you use kolorbond for wood window frames, and wood doors? Cheers phill :):)

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 2 жыл бұрын

I think the Kolorbond Aquatek is the one for the wood. Check that out. Or look at AllCoat exterior, Bedec.. or tikkurila Everal Aqua.

@soundmanmartin Жыл бұрын

Hi Phil..loving your channel..im about to tackle a kitchen repaint..was going to use the zilsnerr paint as you recommend it..but...where did you get your wee friends from...im sure i think one of them is my ex wife..she;s looking better now thank god..but seriously love the channel and really need more mates..where did you get them from ?

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Жыл бұрын

I made them myself for halloween a few years ago :) it's the only way I can get friends these days

@soundmanmartin Жыл бұрын

@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 🤣🤣🤣fantastic mate..in your opinion is the all in one the best to use for kitchen cabs? im on my 2nd brand and so far they have been rubbish...8 coats on 1 door is bad...im going from dark brown to white in a satin finish ...i hope !!!!

@a705fay 9 ай бұрын

You need to let it cure for a week before you try damaging it. The Allcoat specifically says it needs two coats to form a proper seal and a week to cure at temps over 22C

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 9 ай бұрын

This is for you.... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z599rdxi27jNXY0.html

@joejuliangregoire 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Phil I did a kitchen in allcoat anthracite but it’s looks more blue to me 😡do u know why it’s look blue ish? N can you spray bedec throughly convential spray devibliss ?

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 2 жыл бұрын

Hi. Was it mixed or a pre mixed can of anthracite? Bedec should spray fine. Just have a fiddle with pressure and thickness of paint so it Flows nicely. What needle set have you got?

@joejuliangregoire 2 жыл бұрын

@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator it was watered down a little bit I was thinking that maybe the reason ? N I use 1.5 n 1.8

@joejuliangregoire 2 жыл бұрын

I sometimes use 1.3 needle aswell

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 2 жыл бұрын

@@joejuliangregoire thinned 1.5 If it's thicker try the 1.8 What you don't want is a splatter effect on the finish.

@joejuliangregoire 2 жыл бұрын

@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator thanks a lot mate

@ShedDwellerMakerandRepairer Жыл бұрын

Would you thin out the Bedec if using a HVLP? If so, What ratio would you do it at?

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Жыл бұрын

Add a bit of water at a time till you feel it's the right consistency. You need to thin for hvlp I've a video on spraying and show how I thin.

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Жыл бұрын

Have a look at this one... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/edCdptmC2a-Vp5s.html

@ShedDwellerMakerandRepairer Жыл бұрын

@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Thanks for coming back so quickly mate. I'll have a look. I thought I would have to thin, and was generally thinking around 4-1 using a sprayer but I suppose I'll gauge it when I get the paint. I'll check your vid out. 👍🏻

@helenalovelock1030 4 ай бұрын

I don’t like the Fenchic colours not as nice as F&B. Do they colour match ?

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 4 ай бұрын

I don't think so

@blastfromthepast8504 2 жыл бұрын

Done lots of UPC painting being a time served decorator my self and the frenchi is the best iv used

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 2 жыл бұрын

it's quite unbelievable just how nice it is to apply isn't it.

@robertcox3807 2 жыл бұрын

Can we see u use the al frenchic in a sprayer you think u will need to use thinners

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 2 жыл бұрын

Thinners??? It's a water based product so won't need thinners. If it's needs easing just add a splash of water. Don't use thinners! Not sure I have enough to go in my HVLP, if frenchic want to supply me a litre can, I'll give it a go for you ;)

@robertcox3807 2 жыл бұрын

Only problem with frenchic paint it good can't fault it but that not many colours to choice from I spray upvc doors people want anthracite or chartwell green so more to pick from ral code bs codes

@ketansoni5846 5 ай бұрын

I used the MSP Bedec paint to spray internal wood trim and doors and found that the paint came off when masking tape was used to protect the wood trim. Anyone found the same?

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 5 ай бұрын

What tape was it and did you prep with sand down and dust off?

@helenalovelock1030 4 ай бұрын

Did you take the tape off when it was dry and set ?

@helenalovelock1030 4 ай бұрын

@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator what is the best tape ?

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 4 ай бұрын

@@helenalovelock1030 depends what you need it for.

@denboeckmans1224 2 жыл бұрын

could i use frenchic on a compostie front door , do you think , because we just moved and the door is peeling and looks awful and we cant afford to replace it .

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 2 жыл бұрын

Hi. What's peeling on it?

@denboeckmans1224 2 жыл бұрын

The door was a medium oak colour, which has faded, the bottom half of door where it gets the sun more, is just peeling off ,if i wipe it with a cloth it just falls away, so the door now has big patches with no colour its like a coloured varnish.@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 2 жыл бұрын

@@denboeckmans1224 sonit actually a proper oak wood door? If so... Clean it down well, sand it, Tru get the varnish all off, dust off. Then you need a coat of aluminum leafing Primer as the first coat. It's the best thing for oak or resinous wood. Allow that to dry, then to can paint it as normal.

@denboeckmans1224 2 жыл бұрын

@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator no its a compostie door ,that looks like a oak door

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 2 жыл бұрын

@@denboeckmans1224 I get ya. Best to get the peeling paint off then, or that will still be wanting to come off with other paint over it.

@rosalynmcquigg2219 2 жыл бұрын

Crickey you make me laugh I bet your a funny bugger.we have a huge dark brown pvc front door and I want to lighten it can you advise.

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 2 жыл бұрын

LoL .. I'll take it as a compliment lol Prep is the key. If you want to use All Coat exterior, it's advisable to put a coat of Zinsser 123 on it first, then all coat. The other two products you can use as they are. Have you seen the other uPVC videos on spraying a door?

@UpcycleTV 2 жыл бұрын

Nice video, definitely a bit unfair as the green will cover better. I'm a big fan of Frenchic tho, to me it flows better than those other two, they feel a bit heavier and sticky. All good paint tho.

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 2 жыл бұрын

It's not a video on coverage, obviously a colour will cover better. It's how it feels to apply and how it looks when dry... When brushed.. Then the follow up video shows what stands up best ... Which doesn't matter about colour. Any of them sprayed would be a lot better on coverage and overall look of the finish.

@richardparish396 Жыл бұрын

Love your videos! I'm using Allcoat exterior on kitchen cupboards. Coming out nice when sprayed but it's quite thick. Says add 10% water but it's still thick. How much would thin it by approx? Thanks!

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Жыл бұрын

Hi, thanks. No set %, go with a bit a t a time till you find it sprays best. temp of the paint can effect it. are you suing HVLP.. if so a 1.8 needle set works well. If you over thin it.. drop to a 1.5 needle.

@richardparish396 Жыл бұрын

@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator thanks Phil! I'm using the Energer you reviewed with the larger tip. The finish is very nice but could be a little smoother hence might add more water. Doors are completely flat so not hiding anything.

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Жыл бұрын

how have you gone on these last few weeks with it?

@richardparish396 Жыл бұрын

@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Good thanks Phill! Had sucess using the Energer sprayer on a couple of doors, will try Allcoat a bit thinner when I get back on it.

@williamphillipson548 14 күн бұрын

Hi, only just got round to watching your videos. Very interested in painting a upvc front door. I’m worried about having to shut the door at night and then getting an 8/10 mm mark all round the door because it’s been closed too soon. Is taking the door off it’s hinges the only solution? Ps great video on the painting the door panel.

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 14 күн бұрын

have you watched my video on spraying a uPVC door yet?

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 14 күн бұрын

have you seen this paint.. it can be brushed or rolled kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kKxoZ9WY1pzQlYk.htmlsi=8S2v7Ub2r0GKikjO

@williamphillipson548 13 күн бұрын

@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator thanks for a reply, not seen the spray vid yet.

@miker8149 2 жыл бұрын

Yep Frenchic good stuff, esp if you pray with atomiser

@kanesfist9895 2 жыл бұрын

Can the frenchic go over the rubber seal ?

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 2 жыл бұрын

It'll go over it, whether it stays on if it's flexing is another question.

@slinkiuk Жыл бұрын

Frenchic won't adhere to rubber.

@orbitalforest 2 жыл бұрын

I also found the Zinsser Allcoat disappointing for coverage .

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 2 жыл бұрын

in a colour it's a lot better... even better if sprayed though

@englishdecorator 2 жыл бұрын

Yes its like iss overpriced

@anyat686 Жыл бұрын

Brilliant 😅

@dinosaurusreximis1982 8 ай бұрын

why didn't you use a white Frenchic

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 8 ай бұрын

why, have you had proble,s with teh white, does the white not grip as well?

@pacman4568 2 жыл бұрын

Painting uPVC is not the problem, it is very simple to do. The reality sadly is the paint faced very quickly and where you once had a window or door you washed each year, you now have to paint it every year. The ultimate reason for plastic window frames was the low maintenance aspect of it.

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 2 жыл бұрын

very true, back in the early 90s Dulux brought out a paint for plastic windows.. mainly for councils to re paint uPVC on council houses to make them look good again it never took off.

@adriandeb2710 2 жыл бұрын

That was a surprise,

@MrAthlunkard Жыл бұрын

Bin primer them first Phil yes or no

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Жыл бұрын

What for? Have you watched the scratch test ?

@Garage_GymRat 2 жыл бұрын

told ya phil the frenchic is actually decent stuff mate

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 2 жыл бұрын

If Frenchic can get that coverage and flow on the paint.. why can't other companies..... I'm a bit blown away actually. How it flowed out you'd be hard pushed to say it was brushed.

@1960gal Жыл бұрын

Apologiese as I've had to watch this on mute with subbies, so may have missed a few important bits! My husband painted the inside of our composite front door today. Frenchic Dazzle Me White over our (came wirh the house!) Burgandy. Kicked ourselves cos we had a tin of Zinsser Primer handy. But followed instructions, cleaned and lightly sanded it, but didnt prime it. Sorry to say he wasn't impressed and I was gutted as I'd pushed him to paint it for me! Very watery, dries very quickly and streaky. Expected first, even second coat to look a bit scary....but just looks passable after 5 coats! He's old-school: prefers oil-based Gloss etc. Been Googling best paints for upvc/composite doors and they all seem to recommend water-based products. Still got to convince him to paint the front of the door. That'll be black so may be much easier to cover the burgundy??Hope he'll get on-board but truth is I can't see him using Frenchic again. Shame....because I've already bought the bleddin' stuff!!

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Жыл бұрын

What did he think to how the scratch test was with the Frenchic Alfresco I did? You saw how it was applied... Nothing complicated.. very good results. Get him to check out Bedec. Also watch some of my other water based paint videos. ;)

@1960gal Жыл бұрын

@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator He's not watched this vid, but he did exactly the same application as advised/you had....aside from the scratch test. After the 5th coat he himself said it'd made all the difference but not sure he'll ever be a fan. Will check out the paint Brand you've suggested....and watch a few more of your vids! Cheers for uploading/advice 👍

@anyat686 Жыл бұрын

Thank you. Frenchic is is then ! 😅

@mikelacey9384 2 жыл бұрын

Wish there was no wind noise ???? Good video though

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 2 жыл бұрын

Oh the days before I spent £70 on a dedicated external microphone with wind sock. LoL

@Guide504 2 жыл бұрын

Zinsser all coat neads 7 days to cure fully between 10 to 20degrees

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 2 жыл бұрын

That's true. Amazing how the frenchic was gripping well after two hours. Wait for the following nup review next week. As they'll have had a month on the uPVC board... Outside.

@catharinakopetschek6204 Жыл бұрын

After a year, do you still believe in FrenchChic?

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Жыл бұрын

It's still on that board. :) My garden table and chair set... Still like new (on metal) My garden seat seat (plastic rattan) flaked off in areas on the flexing of the plastic.

@catharinakopetschek6204 Жыл бұрын

@Phil Beckwith The Professional Painter & Decorator thank you. Would you recommend it for a uPVC door that's faces sun and all weather?

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Жыл бұрын

@@catharinakopetschek6204 can't see why not

@OFCOURSE20 Жыл бұрын

Should have tried the white frenchic.. it's a mare!. Worse of their colours. Need about 4 thin coats.

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Жыл бұрын

HI, thanks for reaching out..... white!! now there's a colour most copanies have issues with, please what the Product Testing playlist... you'll see what I mean. This 'test' wasn't about colour, more about will it stay on. It does adhere very well, you must admit ;)

@OFCOURSE20 Жыл бұрын

@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator yes. It's a great paint but if the others were white, frenchic white should have been used too. The coloured frenchic paints do paint differently. It's not robust though. It chips, it leaves finger marks, it's hard to dust without leaving fibres. I've had to use a Matt water based varnish ( not their topcoat either) on every project.

@petinathomas6096 Жыл бұрын

I'm always very skeptical of water based paints. Especially good outdoors. Surely cellulose is better

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Жыл бұрын

No, I wouldn't use cellulose, that's a specialist paint, like what they use to spray cars with. It's not really a paint a Painter and Decorator would use.... unless you do spray painting and have proper air extraction facilities in a spray shop, with the fumes being taken away with proper extraction. Water based paints now days have come on so much these last few years. Proper prep, with the correct process of using the right Undercoat with the top finish and you'll be fine.

@erniewhitfield6454 Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂love your fans

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Жыл бұрын

fansonly ;)

@MrSmid888 2 жыл бұрын

They all needed to be white surely. Nonetheless interesting watch, cheers

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 2 жыл бұрын

No as it wasn't an opacity test, it was seeing what the paint is like on uPVC, how it hold up and if you see the 29 days later video.. how it is at a scratch test.

@MrSmid888 2 жыл бұрын

@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator My conservatory funnily enough is that exact colour/pattern you painted over, hate the thing. 😂 I ’ve put off reaching for the frog tape but I might give it a go after seeing these results. Cheers

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 2 жыл бұрын

@@MrSmid888 it is a colour that was of the time.... but look at it this way...... you can make a vast improvement painting it.. with the right paint. Do you spray?? Prep is the key... clean, wash it down well, a light abrade with the scotch brite pads.. rinse it with clean water and dry it off. You can do it ;)

@jerrychicken967 2 жыл бұрын

Bedec says fully cured after 1 month so a great idea on a video but a bit flawed. Need a scratch test after the paint is fully cured. 🙁 Pretty pointless results.

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching the video all the way through.

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 2 жыл бұрын

And they'll be a follow up video as well.

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 2 жыл бұрын

What was interesting was the Frenchic adhesion after only 2hrs was very good. I'll do a follow up on the board Inna few weeks when it's been a month outside. I'm aware most things are a good 7 days to cure fully. A month does seem a long while, how do you protect the bedec from scratches and the like if used in a house..... If that's the case maybe not a suitable product unless used where no one will come near it. Then if that's the case... All other paints would fair well too.

@peterreilly5057 Жыл бұрын

Iv sprayed all those pints to make them stick 100% you need to etching primer and your job will be the dogs

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Жыл бұрын

Hi. Apparently you don't as they go over most surfaces. I'll let you watch the follow up video.

@stephensimkiss5888 Жыл бұрын

How old are you if you was established in 1965 if you was 15 that makes you in your 70s you look well for it lol

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Жыл бұрын

Moisturiser ;)

@stephensimkiss5888 Жыл бұрын

Haha well it's working bud

@cliffhaysom5387 Жыл бұрын

not really a comparison/ French job should have been white

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Жыл бұрын

why? It was never a test on opacity/coverage. The test is does it go on uPVC.. and the follow on 29days later video is does it scratch off. Colour has nothing to do with it.

@jackwardley3626 2 жыл бұрын

i would say it's always best to prime first wouldn't trust these self priming things

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 2 жыл бұрын

What would you use?

@jackwardley3626 2 жыл бұрын

@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator i would use zinsser coverstain or zinsser 123 plus

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 2 жыл бұрын

@@jackwardley3626 thankfully no need as these are all self priming products.... And go on most surfaces. Hence the three product review.

@jackwardley3626 2 жыл бұрын

@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator i just wouldn't trust self priming paints i used the bedec msp on bare softwood and you could scrape it off with a finger nail

@jmysflix 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks I found info this very useful. I was going to buy separate primer, but it looks like with the right product, you don't need it. I found Phil's follow up video (scratch test results - 1 month later) : kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z599rdxi27jNXY0.html Taking all into account, it looks like the Bedec is a good choice too.

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 2 жыл бұрын

how have you gone on?

@richardkerry6552 Жыл бұрын

Is this Ricky Gervais alter,alter ego?

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Жыл бұрын

who?

@richardkerry6552 Жыл бұрын

@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator sorry, David Brent.........

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Жыл бұрын

@@richardkerry6552 oh the famous painter lol

@richardkerry6552 Жыл бұрын

That's right,can hang flock coverings lovely....

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Жыл бұрын

@@richardkerry6552 and lining paper with ease

@anthonymachin564 2 жыл бұрын

Too much talking about nothing

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 2 жыл бұрын

What did you think to the follow up video?

@user-ns7vj4tz5h Ай бұрын

Hi Phil.. Which brand can i use the front wood door colour ? Bedec or All coat zinsser ?

@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Ай бұрын

Both would be fine... whats on the door now?

@user-ns7vj4tz5h Ай бұрын

@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator It's a front door.. From exterior side paint faded off and gone rusty and from inside is still shiny.. I believe it's a mid sheen or gloss.