I can't give the Sully dude much credit due to spreading provable misnfo e.g. 40 babies but at least for the Aisha 9 year old thing he admits that the majority of Muslims defend Muhummad diddling a 9 year old.

you going to hell lol

Sahih al-Bukhari 5134 Narrated `Aisha: that the Prophet (ﷺ) married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that `Aisha remained with the Prophet (ﷺ) for nine years (i.e. till his death).

​@@godislove3445 Suleiman dismissed him due to his poor memory. So it's better to prepare using multiple sources; the article on Aisha's marriage from atheism-vs-islam got good coverage on excuses.

Islam learned from Greek Pagan’s, and later Greek Christians. BYZANTINE ( ROMAN EMPIRE ) ASTRONOMY FROM A.D. 1300 EMMANUEL A. PASCHOS Department of Physics, University of Dortmund, Germany. ”…A Byzantine (Roman), article from the 13th century contains advanced astronomical ideas and pre-Copernican diagrams. The models are geocentric but contain improve­ments on the trajectories of the Moon and Mercury. This talk presents several models and compares them briefly with the Astronomy of Ptolemy, Arabic Astro­nomies of that time and the heliocentric system…” “……In contrast to Western Europeans "the Arabs had virtually full access to that, Greek, heritage from the eighth century onward. This occurred because of a momentous translation effort whereby the great works of Greece and other cultures were translated in Arabic". Later on (12th and 13th centuries) the classical knowledge was transmitted to Western Europe through Byzantine and Arabic sources and Irish monks who travelled across Europe founding monasteries and scriptoria..….” “ …The Shape of the Earth It is generally believed that everybody who read Aristotle knew that the earth is spherical. The shape of the earth is not mentioned explicitly in "The Schemata of the Stars", but in five diagrams the earth is drawn as a spherical globe. In figure 2 I show two of the diagrams for solar and lunar eclipses where the earth is spherical. The article was written some 200 years before the voyage of Columbus to America and here we have one more evidence that the Byzantines considered the earth to be spherical. Arabic astronomy also considered the earth to be spherical. An exception to this rule is an article by Cosmas Indicopleustes who wrote the "Christian Topography" around A.D. 550. There he describes the earth to be flat with an inclination relative to the sun, which explained the divisions of day and night. This simple view was not taken very seriously and it was not thought worthy of mention by medieval commentators…”

Lmaoooo

​@@EM-fo6yr no there isn't

It's not 18. 18 is meaningless.

​@@EM-fo6yrI've never met a 17 year old that plays with dolls

@@satireofcircumstance6458he is saying that it morphed to be acceptable now. Implying it wasn’t acceptable then and someone wanted to make it presentable, because god telling your prophet to marry and consummate with children probably isn’t a great look

Greeks works were lost in Europe but translated by Arabs in your dark ages. So yeah you got them now from the Arabs. You deny that ?

@@BrikMalek So they translated it but didn't enforce it? Democracy straight contradicts abrahamic religious laws.

​@@BrikMalekboi you more dense than tungsten

Yea unfortunately he’s ridiculously brainwashed

@@misternap1346 I hit you with straight facts. Mary gave birth at the age of 12, so she was pregnant at 11. COPE

that's real hate, my woke liberals reading here.

It is tho. Everything you think is bad in islam, you’ll find worse in Judaism.

@@Eastonwest71 Not today, not historically.

Read the Babylonian Talmud. They got all types of demonic stuff in there. 3 yr old girl is all game according to the Talmud. A none J is like cattle. If a J deletes none J, it’s ok, vice versa? No. Even the Torah, in deutronmy, the punishment t for grape is for the man to marry the victim.

@@nicolasbascunan4013 1 samuel 15? delete the malamutes, delete their women, children, infants even their livestock. Not even donkeys are safe.

In the bibble Mary married Joseph when she was only 12 yo Again In the Bible Rebecca married Isaac when she was 3 yo

@@issadinmohamed1177 Literally nowhere in the Bible does it say Mary was 12 lmao... even if it were true, that doesn't make Muhammad any less of a pedo, if the Hadith is true. Keep WADABOUTING harder lmao

@@issadinmohamed1177difference is you guys worship the man who is a Pedophile. We don’t worship Rebecca, Mary or anyone else in Bible besides Jesus Christ.

What lmao ​@@issadinmohamed1177

But have you considered MUH HERMENEUTICS?

Bro this made me laugh so hard

for real tho

Fr lmao

Or: the jewa

you need to listen to

It was tho

jews can't melt steel beams.

@@KronoDeathwingonly if you a room a temperature iq and are prone to believe conspiracy theories

There is a strong possibility that israelis were behind 9/11 look into the dancing israelis on 9/11

Saudi Arabia and Qatar as far as I know were the main benefactors, which is why I seriously question letting a man who’s son took 2 billion dollars from them back in office.

This is one of the major points that is lost on people when speaking of Islam. Same thing with Communists which is why their factions came together for the revolution in Iran. Obviously every tribe or clan lies but ideologies that allow lying as a means to an end are extra caustic.

According to Islamic scholars, lying is not permitted to promote islam.

no its not

@@YTUser-lv8mb It's funny that even scholars will lie to Moslems to hide the truth about Islam. All Muslims are to follow Muhammad’s example and not ask questions while actively leading sceptics astray. Allah's Apostle said, "Who is willing to kill Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf who has hurt Allah and His Apostle?" Thereupon Muhammad bin Maslama got up saying, "O Allah's Apostle! Would you like that I kill him?" The Prophet said, "Yes," Muhammad bin Maslama said, "Then allow me to say a (false) thing (i.e. to deceive Kab). "The Prophet said, "You may say it." ... [Bukhari Vol 5 Book 59 Num 369] Lying today Imam Abu Hammid Ghazali says: "Speaking is a means to achieve objectives. If a praiseworthy aim is attainable through both telling the truth and lying, it is unlawful to accomplish through lying because there is no need for it. When it is possible to achieve such an aim by lying but not by telling the truth, it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible." (Ahmad ibn Naqib al-Misri, The Reliance of the Traveller, translated by Nuh Ha Mim Keller, amana publications, 1997, section r8.2, page 745) Al-Ghazali is one of the most famous and respected Muslim theologians of all time.

​@@MustafaKhan-fx3ye Yes it is, it's called taqiyya. It's usually involved so muslims can lie about not being muslims if saying the truth could be a danger to them, however the notion has largely been extended today to allow muslims to lie about everything to non-believers.

No. Primitive can be wise at times. They're just evil.

Ah colonialism at its best, we always think we're superior class to everyone else. White savior to The rest of the savages. History repeats itself always.

colonialism at its finest, Thank goodness for the white savior everyone else is savages compared to their own thinking. Funny how history repeats itself.

So is leaving Islam or declaring yourself gay. And pogroms against Christians and Jews in Islamic countries are commonplace, Which is why few Jews or Christians are left in Islamic countries.

Lol The channel is hiding comments 😂😂😂

Even 15km is walking distance. So I would consider that "right next to".

@@ryangee6754 15km is 6.8 miles which is "right next to" in my book. As a kid I would walk or bike 6 miles to school like it was nothing. This all seems like such short distances does it really matter?

​​@@erikkovacs3097bro no, 15km is like a 4hs and 15 minutes walk, that's not close by any stretch of the imagination, there are towns separated by 15km. Just open up Google maps and do some tests.

@@erikkovacs3097 So if someone said “there’s actually a playground right next to my house”, you wouldn’t be at all surprised if it turned out that the playground was 15 kilometres away from their house?

Bro is deluded 6.8m right next door 😅😅😅

Most people in the world knows nothing and doesn't care about the world outside of their country... ruling the world doesn't mean much... I guess.

Why can you be racist? lmao

Thanks for sharing....nothing

That's not what he said...

@@non-blogger he said "why can't i say mean things about the holocaust" can you explain what that means?

I know he just lies nonstop omg that Muslim is just insane

According to their charter no

@@truthseeker-nv6nywhat in the world are u talking about

@skankhunt42002 I'm talking about the hamas charter that says they have no problem with Jewish people but zionism. The charter that noone read but everyone loves bringing up to justify Israeli warcrimes

@@truthseeker-nv6ny when a bunch of palestinians go to the streets celebrating october 7th like they won the super bowl i think i can make the assumption they aren’t fond of judaism. wouldn’t u agree?

You must be their good lil taxpayer zio Christian that's why they will treat you nice. However an avg Christian there isn't treated like that.

@@SaraSila08 I mean if I had a choice I’d rather have my tax money go to Israel than Hamas. Hey quick question, why didn’t Hamas build any bomb shelters or any infrastructure to protect their civilians during a war which they always start? & lmao I have family that lives there that’s Christian and they don’t get mistreated whatsoever. You’re literally just lying and spreading false propaganda 😂

@@SaraSila08And what’s your evidence? A couple of meme twitter videos? Christians are treated fine in Israel nobody cares about them.

@@SaraSila08ok bud

​@@SaraSila08The government doesn't but some Jews don't like Christians when we preach other than that it's pretty neutral.

Clearly the prophet and allah can warp through time

​@@LegiamasC-OnTwittaMust be with their Magic Carpet.

Greek philosophy in europe post roman collapse was plato centric, and it was only through the preservation of figures such as diogenes or socrates via jewish and then islamic scholars that they became popular once more in italy, at the forefront of the renaissance. Non platonic greek philosophy was dead in the greater west for over a millenia.

It's actually downright scary how delusional the average Muslim seems to be. Like I don't even find it funny anymore.

@@paxelysia8202 pretty ironic that Italians lost Italian history. I understand what sulei was meaning to say, the way he said it just made him seem goofy

Not Israël but Zionist who controle the west aswell. If you do not see that you are blind. Biden openly calls himself a Zionist... the so called leader of the US...

obvious sacrifice for greater end game

Loll

You think he believes the Holocaust actually happened? Lol

They tried to colonize Palestine unsuccessfully for decades. Which is why the balfour declaration was in 1917 but israel was created 3 years after the holocaust in 1948.

HAHAHAHAHA

"no let me tell you about the jews"

If Islam is the future we WILL be living in the stone age. Organized religion can go, but that one the most.

Thank you for your brave comment, I hope the bobbies go easy on you 😢

Haha

@@Cantbearsed447calls op cringe, then does the most cringe thing ever

​@@somezsaltz6835 Average Islamic Behavior.

Who?

Who?

2?

Y’all sound like owls

Ahmed obviously ​@lukacsszaitli5246

Have you read any of the old testament and talmud?

Parts of it but not everything.

@@InsanityltselfRead everything then comment buddy

@@Acesinz Why? I dont care whats written in some book thousands of years ago. Ive read the Bible, the Quran etc. But nowadays you can criticize every religion and say what you want using freedom of speech except for Islam. You want to stop being Christian? Thats fine. Oh you were a Muslim and commit aphostacy? Death sentence. Woman have less rights with Islam and so do other men with a differents sexuality. Islam nowadays is way more extreme than other religions. Its basically like what Christianity was 500 years ago. So yeah i disagree lol

@@Acesinzwhat percent of Jews think you can marry a nine year old or kill apostates

What lies ?

​@@Sos.U2the entire damn book

@@matthiasofprussia Name me one. Please, I’m waiting.

@Sos.U2 the moon wasn't cut in half waiting to be summoned up to rise, jews weren't turned into rats, stars aren't lanterns to be thrown at demons, women aren't half as intelligent as men. There are plenty of demonstrable errors in the text that have nothing to do with evolving languages or translation: * semen does not come from between the backbone and the ribs * sperm does not form congealed blood. Congealed blood does not form lumps of flesh. * Embryos are not formed from semen * Gender is not decided at "clot stage" * Bones aren't formed before flesh * Not all organisms are created in pairs * The heart is not a locus of contemplation and thought * milk is not produced in the body somewhere between excretions and blood * the sun does not set in a muddy spring * Earth and heavens were not formed in six days * Earth was not formed before the stars * Earth is not 'spread out' and laid flat * The stars are not lamps smaller than the earth, nor can they fall from the sky * There is no stage in the formation of the universe that involved smoke (carbon particles suspended as a result of combustion; the word translated smoke is the noun dukhan دُخَانٍ, which means literal smoke of the sort that rises from a fire * Quran 65:12 plainly states that there exist seven earths. * the sun and moon are not of comparable size and distance * two Qur'anic verses that say the Moon is a "light". Instead, the word noor (nooran نُورًا) is used, which simply means "a light", and, in another verse, the word muneer (muneeran مُّنِيرًا) is used, which means "giving light" and is from the same root as noor * Meteors are not stars fired at devils * The sky/heaven is not a ceiling that can fall down * the keeping and breaking of a fast and the times of prayer, among other things, are related to times of sunrise and sunset. But there are regions of the earth where the sun rises and sets only once a year. * First humans were not created from clay * There were no Adam & Eve * There is no permanent barrier between "the two seas" of fresh and salt water. Estuaries, often used as an excuse, are not permanent. * Mountains are not pegs that prevent the earth from shifting. They are in fact the result of shifting tectonic plates. * Mountains were not cast upon Earth * Earthquakes are not a punishment * There are no mountains of hail in the sky * Allah doesn't smite with thunderbolts * Ants do not converse with humans * Horses were not created as transportation * Not all animals live in communities * Bird flight is not a miracle * There is no massive wall of iron anywhere on the Earth * Mary is not considered part of the Trinity * David did not invent coats of mail * There were no crucifixions in ancient Egypt * Nabatean rock tombs at al-Hijr were not homes and palaces from before the time of Pharaoh * The Qu'ran states that Moses dealt with a Samarian during his time. However the Samarians did not exist until well over half a millennium after Moses is supposed to have existed.

Say bigots like you who lie more than they breath LMAO

No, it was destiny who was bad faith. Read hamas charter article 31. Israel 1000 times bigger terrorists than hamas. People who are out of the matrix know it Very well.

Fake news. You must be a Zionist apache helicopter pilot

​@@le_rayon_vertyou got any examples? i'm intrigued

@@KamilDeKerelit seems like hes just making insane claims that no other pro-palestine person has said and then follow it with “and even the israeli side confirm it” Either hes got information nobody else does or hes lying.

@@harryb12993 damn i see, so he's a grifter for his own religion?

The *potential* extra sinister nature of Judaism is that it’s very exclusionary. Even this trivialized summery of the talk has merit…

As does Atheism but Destiny will ignore that because that would render his point irrelevant. Certain people by their very nature will radicalize anything they become attached to in a personal way be that religion or science, look at how people took the science behind the Covid vaccines and mask mandates. It was entirely in the same vein as any religious fanatic would be over their particular mantras and scriptures

@@benjames1497 so murdering thousands of people in the name of God during the Holy Wars wasn't Sinister? Or how about all the beheading, drownings, draggings, and rockings in the name of Allah? Can you tell me how many Jewish extremist acts have happened over the past 2000 years? Because I can tell you about Christian and Muslim ones all day, and don't let me get into China. It's hilarious to think Jews are anymore dangerous than Christians. Or that literally any religion is more dangerous than the other because it's the people, and the people with Islam tend to literally murder anyone that disagrees with them. So who's really sinister.

@@benjames1497jews dont execute apostates. Jews dont believe in lying for their religion. Jews do not charge a jizya tax for abrahamic religions and execute pagans. Jews do not believe you can take sex slaves. Jews do not believe in killing critics of their religion. Jews do not believe they have to dominate the world. Jews dont believe in rental wives. Jews dont believe that killing infidels or suicide bombing is a free ticket to heaven. Judaism is nothing compared to islam

corny ass mottos

your Jewish i hope thats a reminder

Yeah that’s why it’s growing and more people convert everyday than any other religion. Cope

@@Wakamolewonder its funny how there bible contradicts its self i can go on and on and on

​@@Wakamolewonder more Christians than Muslims. Cope

Well the Quran says nothing about the Hadith. So not all Muslims accept all hadiths automatically. That’s just false. The Ayesha one is specially highly distorted.

@@abbbadri I'm glad you atleast don't enjoy pedophilia like a lot of islamic apologists. The quran says to follow Mohammed, the way to do that is through the hadith so yes it does say that you should follow the hadith. Which ever ones you choose to believe in hardly matters when scholars that govern the religion and interpret sharia agree on the collections where she is stated to be 9.

​@@adutchman1403does the hadith specifically say marry little girls like Muhammad?

@@notaloneinrsa1345 Quran mentions you have an excellent example in Mohammed and the hadith mention that he married a 6 year old and had sex with her when she was 9. So, yes.

@@adutchman1403you are right the Quran says to follow Mohammad and his sayings. But if u look at the single hadith talking about Aishas age, you would see that it was narrated by AISHA herself, not the prophet. Rejecting it isn't something that would be against Islam. I'm not saying she lied, but she has no way of knowing her own age, and there might be a whole different method of counting years, remember we are talking about something 1400 yrs ago.

And I thought China hating on Japan was bad, living here in China. This wasn’t “bringing it up a lot.” This was obsession

Yes because that was the topic lmfao

@@adnanm9435no the first topic was is Islam the future 😂 notice destiny doesn’t even mention them in that. If he did that for Israel fine but he’s clearly obsessed

@@adnanm9435 Only the second topic necessitated talking about Israelis. The rest were about Islam and he still found ways to bring Israelis up

I mean it's a good argument, why aren't we allowed to talk about them?

Pure brainrot for the mssses.

Funny how he was quick to shut down going into more discussion on his 9/11 claim

One of these days I'll find out Israel bombed Pearl Harbor /s

4) Aisha was 18

😂

Who the fuck tells you people these things? I genuinely wonder if you have ever interacted with a Muslim in your life or whether it all comes from Isis rhetoric with a sprinkle of the Muslim Brotherhood. "If you dont believe in all the hadith you are a fake Muslim that will be executed" Retardation beyond comprehension

Muhammad i think was a 50+ year old person and aisha was 6 years old when they got married...aisha was old enough to be muhammad grand daughter

What is your source that she was 6 or 9 ?

That’s how they do. They just made it and VOILÀ, We have to accept it is true😂

​@@Gaucho215 "In a hadith from Sahih al-Bukhari, Aisha recollects having been married at six years of age."

@@bambina5604 Seems like you don’t know what reference entails. What is the Hadith number and page of the Hadith in shahih bukhari ?

Ok nice argument but have you heard about the Jews?!

⁠@@gaz4553im a Jew so yes? We are very secular 😂

You just succinctly summed up the core argument of every anti-Semitic apologist.

(((Zionists)))

Zionists are radical muslims of Judaism.

yuck

Marry was 12 when she married Joseph and Rebecca was 3 when she married Isaac. Read your bible carefully Mr Christian

@@issadinmohamed1177 dawah script straight from zakir naik (pbuh). You mohammedans are all copy and paste. 😂😂😂

​@@issadinmohamed1177 Tell us the chapter and verse in the Bible where it says those things so we can read it carefully, thanks.

@@SJ.J2 tell us the chapter and verse in the quran where it says aisha was 9

That's because his first statement was a lie. Almost all classical sources say she was either 6 or 7 when she got married and 9 when the marriage was consummated.

Islam has their dumbass Hadith system which allows multiple contradictory things to still be part of the religion. There are "authentic" hadith saying she was 6 and "authentic" hadith saying she was older. Muslims will jump between these different "authentic" scholarly positions as it suits them. So he wants to maintain the idea that Muhammad wasn't a pedophile without disputing the VAST majority of Muslim scholarship saying he was.

It's weasely

The minimum age of adulthood is 9 for women in islam . Strange coincidence.

@@RandoBurneractually it’s worst. There’s a verse in the Quran that say you can marry and have sex with pre pubescent girls and then divorce then.

He said Aisha being 9 isn't a tenant of Islam but the tenants of Islam come from the same source that confirms she was 9 (AL Bakari) 😂

@@lessthansion that’s also true. Almost all Islamic traditions and tenants come from Hadith.

There is Hadith that the “prophet” argue his companion because he married and adult woman instead a little girl 😂

And in the west the governments force 13 year old girls to separate from their older boyfriends. Same thing. You both claim ownership over the bodies of these girls and take away their human rights.

And in the west the governments force th3rte3n year old girls to separate from their older boyfriends. Same thing. You both claim ownership over their bodies and take away their human rights.

Not all of them. I believe you can be a Muslim and deny the Hadith entirely, as long as you believe in the Quran

@BadBigBody Quaranism is fringe. Most are either Western reverts or secret apostates, because so much of the traditions, down to the way they pray, comes from the sunnah/hadiths.

@@BadBigBody the Quran itself tells you to follw the example of the "most perfect man" and that comes from the Hadith.

Muslims have 0 arguments to defend their religion and they know it, their only line of defense is to insult others.

They don’t care about truth. They’re so ideologically captured they’re a lost cause, let the blind lead the blind off a cliff..

"I stubbed my toe the other day" "Bro it was the Jews innit"

Yes, today…this statement is true, because Islam is castrated.

Someone tell him that whataboutism is not a defense. It just means "both are bad".

these people should be forced to watch the footage tbh...

but... but... the JEWWWWWS!!!!!

​@@prettyokandy230he'd just get off on it.

As does the IDF but nothing has happened to the IDF

@@gmallory cope haha

Red Neck Shit

you can if you think your book comes from the only true god said that "these people" aren't humans.

Lol are you a theologan, even a "sahih" hadith can be questioned, that's why you can have different interpretation and schools of thought of the same hadiths

Can you tell me of a debate where that point was brought up and the other person didn't argue against it? Or do you think that no one else has thought of implementing this argument in a debate before you? (Obviously a debate about the age, not one in which they agreed on the age going in)

​@@mark-kq7rc If sahih hadiths can be questioned how do you know you need to pray 5 times a day?

@@yakov95000 because everything aisha said doesn't mean it is not true, One interpretation is Aisha was told her age she can't know like other things she saw. So sahih hadith can be interpreted differently in numerous ways with a lot of different subjects like prayer and other rituals. And there can be others who reject some hadith based on much sahih a hadith actually is for historical reasons.

@@mark-kq7rcmental gymnastics

That's not very Talmudic of you to say...

Silly Muslims radicals have to double down on their lies

Think deeper

@@TheOneMastodonyou talk about thousands of pages you dont understand and ignore the evidence of your eyes? Theres been literally 1 jewish suicide bomber in all of history

​@TheOneMastodon What's the talmud exactly? Is it the word of God like the qurran claims to be? Or is it a debate book about random topics that often times contradicts itself because again it's mostly debates of how a law from the torah should be practiced? You can be a religious jew without the talmud but you can't be a Muslim without the qurran.

he's debating a Muslims, last time Muslims tried to debate each other over Islam it ended in a genocide lol

From a religion that believes that Adam and Eve existed, and were muslims. What do you expect ?

Time traveling muslims.

They believe all the hebrew prophets that existed before Muhammed were actually muslims, this is not out of character for their wacky revisionist bs

EXACTLY!!! HAHAHAHA

You are simply uninformed about this matter. Democracy, especially in the ancient world, but also in its own right as a concept, does not mean "a modern, liberal, free-market society". It just meant any system where the people - and people was a pretty narrow term, considering it only applied to land owning, older men - got to directly influence the course of their country's leadership. It was a much looser concept back then. You let any non-politicians get a say in politics? You're doing democracy. That was basically the ancient idea of democracy.

He's British, not Pakistani. But I don't know what his nationality has to do with anything you weirdo. 🤣🤣

Absolutely. How can you debate people like this? Total dishonesty

Evil IS REAL!

@@OrphanAnnie10islam is satanic

IDF were indiscriminately firing at everyone from their helicopters

Brett Weinstein catching the most random ass stray 😂😂😂

Literally... lied through his teeth and every single turn

nah that is fake news

He is muslim, what else do you expect

​@@MG-pj2ooIt just goes to show that he either wears his belief in God solely on the outside and has no care for honouring God in action, or his god epitomises murderous bigotry and endorses lies told to justify certain murders.

Should have been easy for destiny to defeat him then

Wag The Dog....watch it

Hes an arab muslim of course hes going to defend or downplay the actions of hamas

@@IAmAHeaterwhat is that a KZfaq video

Destiny said with a straight face Hamas used cookie sugar to send rockets to Israel. How idiot must you be to listen to this guy ?

He didn’t say that. He acknowledged that hamas killed innocents, but the IDF did kill more.

one good way to stop both 😈

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

He breathes a lot

That was one of the most retarded points he made

Why should you mock any religion in the first place?Why not debate them and show them that their ideas are wrong before insulting them. A decent person doesn’t go around mocking people. You wouldn’t like it if someone mocked your family or something you hold as value. Mocking people or any religion is a disgusting act. You debate a people you disagree with, you don’t mock them.

⁠​⁠​⁠@@Gaucho215because they are childish and unfounded. It’s like astrology. Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Hinduism. All attempts to give people who lived and starved all the time a purpose.

​@billojallow6604 you are the reason we should keep mocking islam. Mocking should be not equals being killed.

@@Gaucho215 you can mock AND religion you want, we live in a WESTERN democratic society with free speech and the right to laugh at/insult whoever we want.

cause you don't know that's basically how Islam started, Prof Momo went to the Jews and said "I'm your Massaya bow to me", Jews said.. "na pass" Prof Momo got mad came back with his boys and killed the men and took their women... what a Golden Age 😍

Without lies Islam dies

Besides Oct 7, what did he lie about?

@@benjames1497 imagine going into every thread just to defend your religion that’s incompatible with every western ideal and culture

@@senderoverland that’d be wild. I feel for the Jews and Muslims doing that

Basically basically basically He needs a thesaurus

also him saying that 0 babies died on oct 7, is the most vile shit ive ever heard.

If you are trying to defend those animals, all you could do is lie and deny

How many babies have been killed in Gaza in last 6 months? What’s the exchange rate? 1 Israeli baby for 50 Palestinian?

@@Camil515 whats your point. Hamas is responsible for the death of both Palestinian and Israeli babies

@@Camil515 whataboutism. There is no exchange rate. Maybe a certain group should stop hiding behind civilians.

Not only that , in Islam democracy is considered shirk

He is a serious person. Don't underestimate these Islamist radicals and what they can do.

Most muslims believe in this. They have a deep hatred towards jews which comes from Islam. Zionism has nothing to do with it, they just use it as a disguise to mask their animalic antisemitism.

But the second something goes against Islam they'll call it out like they've never done anything wrong themselves, bunch of egotrippers

@@Tiasung 4 real. Islam is on a comeup and we have to be careful. Its the WORST scariest brainrot because they will kill behind it. It's hard for us to understand cause they believe in their paradise which makes them dangerous

@@Cantbearsed447 you know saying the word cope just creams that you yourself are coping, its a word used when no other words can convince anybody else

That wasnt the point of them moderating this debate but ok and anyone with a braincell should know that the last person to speak doesnt mean they won in that topic. They were literally taking turns

He lives in euphemisms, just like people who do apologetics anywhere.

​@@NH-bn8xn Correct, he's an apologist

@@ramikpark8387thank you for understanding some of these people think moderation means fact checking everybody and debunking claims

Islam: *Created in the 7th century* Jesus: *Born in 1st century* Muslims: "Jesus was muslim" - 🫠 😂😂😂

Grifter feeding idiots who believe his BS.

Of course he is. He's an apologist.

Yes

Everything he's saying is very calculated. He's smart to attack Judaism more than promote Islam in front of this audience. It's so ironic because all the people that "the Jews" are supposedly using to destroy the West through mass immigration are Muslims. And now we're also seeing a lot of these Muslim immigrants ally with the radical left (also controlled by "the Jews" of course) to hold the Democratic party hostage and possibly get Trump elected because they oppose what country? The one that's 80% Jews? So it's a conspiracy-theory with an outcome that's literally the exact opposite of what the theory would predict. But no evidence is going to change someone as ideologically-captured as a hardcore Islamist or neo-Nazi.

Your average Islamist

Worst part is most of those advancements came from Persians before and during the Islamic conquest.

Source?

@@robertf3606one of the main part of the golden age was the andalus which was literally on the other side. Persian couldn’t do shit

@@addddddf yall are tripping on islamic golden age. NOTHING COMPARES TO EUROPEAN RENAISSANCE AND NOTHING EVER WILL

Some scientists and intellectuals in the golden age were kind of secular or skeptic e.g Khayyam. Yet the other majority were still Muslim e.g Ibn Khaldun, Ibn Sina, Ibn Rushd ... All scientists and intellectuals regardless of their religions or lack thereof influence the advancement in their societies.

I think hes referring to the fact alot of classical greek and roman texts were preserved in islamic scholarship during the middle ages

@@robbi8599yeah I hear that. The way he said it makes it sound like he’s saying Greece got it from then, he was talking too fast.

Most of the Greeks studied in EGYPT for decades. Greeks got NOTHING from Romans, it's the other way around. You're not very smart

Destiny is smarter than you and he didn't push back on that point because he knows it's a legitimate point. Do more research

@@LegiamasC-OnTwitta yeah this guy said alot of shit which is either false or very dishonest so I wouldn't even be surprised if that was his claim.

He is not liberal. He is a hardcore Islamist of pakistani origin , living in uk.

Who is a real Muslim .Taliban or something

Exactly.

My thoughts exactly. And I'm absolutely here for it

what do you mean

@@OddC00kie9I get the feeling from every clip and piece of content from them that I’ve ever seen, that they are not intelligent and also uneducated on politics beyond men/women dynamics in society, with a lot of their opinions concerning their “specialty” seeming to be childish and overly emotional

@@josephmother2659well good thing they are hosting the debate and probably one of the best hosts I’ve seen although the clown destiny was debating was an absolute fool

He's literally shown stuff and lied about it

To be fair he always sites his sources, so I would say no.

​@ign_motion david duke and hamas isn't a source. This guy went on a rant about israel assassinating JFK.

​@@ign_Kage Disinformation doesn't have sources to CITE? This guy objectively is a disinformation peddler, from Islam to Tate, this guy cannot be trusted.

He made weak arguments and is antisemitic. Pretty much world history is controlled and it’s the hebrews fault for the lack of innovation.

2 or 3 times in the debate I really thought those arguments are 95% the same neo-nazis in Germany use today trying to rehabilitate not Hitler but the underlying ideology of his party the NSDAP.

Which u pretty much can as 90+% of Jews are zionists 😂

Unhinged or based?

Despite all the damn testimonies by the released hostages where even the best treated ones hated their time there? Muslims are out of their minds.

Nobody's falling for Jewish Hasbara & everybody is supporting the Palestinian cause. Cope better

Have you seen how kids being locked up in Israeli prisons how they been treated ?? Israelis are torturing the Palestinians for 70+ years now. This 7th of October attack happened cz anyone who is being enslaved for 70 years, controlled, raped, tortured, killed, etc… would the least take revenge at some point. What would you think the best way to react if you are being oppressed for 70 years? Clap for the Israelis? Or kiss them on the other cheek? I have friends in Palestine, their mother had cancer in her kidney for her to move from one hospital to another inside West Bank by ambulance takes her up to 6 hours due to the bullying of the Israelis and checkpoints. That is inside West Bank and not Gaza where Hamas is. Do you think that if I have control of your house and family with oppression and enslavement, would you be happy about it or you would defend yourself? Hamas took them hostages and attacked, cz they have no other way to solve this. No point of resolution to this matter in any other political way.

@@SaraSila08People for this “Hasbara” because it is true.

Answer to your question is yes, he totally believes he can convince the most Ill-informed individuals at college campuses and convince woke/left individuals who watch TYT Cenk Yogurt.

I remember that lmao that was wild.

This guy would say literally anything if it somehow supports his religions.

what did he lie about?

​@@adeptgopnik literally everything

It was unreal his lies were insane 😅😂 like way above normal hamas propaganda, did he say they were being friends with the ravers walking slowly at one point? 😭😭

@anthonyj4529 "the only reason hamas killed people at the festival was cos they were scared they would get killed themselve" like MADNESS bro he's making it sound like their plan was to just attend the festival like they showed up in shades and fannypacks trying to get their rave on

​@adeptgopnik first off jews don't have their own police in the UK. They have a neighbourhood watch group for one area in London which is literally for everyone who lives there. He's a sneaky, lying islamist

We need to get rid of islam as fast as possible

Read Quran 4 6 for proof that Sulamain was correct on Aisha

Taqiyya. Look it up.

She was a little child dude Stop the cope ​@@randomhuman2595

​@@randomhuman2595 I'm neutral on this topic but let's keep it real brother he's wrong about Aisha

Alot if times he eats these guys alive. He didnt have his best showing with Jordan Peterson oddly enough.

​@@nunchuksteev9811thats because peterson knows his limits and won't make hard claims in spaces where you cant run the ultimate sceptic routine.

@@nunchuksteev9811 he did tho

⁠@@nunchuksteev9811 That’s a weird thing to say considering Peterson himself gave kudos to Destiny’s debating skills at the end of the discussion

@@nunchuksteev9811 The reality is, public discussion like this is a bit like fishing. Jordan is a big fish. He's big enough that if you are too antagonistic and pull the line too hard, it'll just snap and he'll just pull out. Smaller fish like Sulaiman here are so thankful for exposure that you can really abuse them and they'll stay on the hook because they stand to gain no matter how poor their performance is. The bigger the platform the more cordial the treatment you need to use.

Its the opposite, btw. Islamic theology and philosophy came largely from Neoplatonism.

What he meant that during Islamic Golden Age,Arabs allowed and promoted translating older works to Arabic,ironically the most famous translator was also one greatest Jewish thinkers/Rabbis in history and the personal physician/doctor of Saladin and his family,Maimonedes in Greek/Latin(Rabbi Moshe Ben Maimon/RamBam)his translations of Aristotle was read by Thomas Aquinas who reintroduced Greek philosophy to the Church and Europe,in short Greeks thought,the Muslims allowed it to be remembered,the Jews wrote and translated and Christians got the information(probably from local Jews I imagine).

​@satireofcircumstance6458 yes, his argument is that islam must respect greek philosophy, since they preserved it.

​@yakov95000 yeah the muslims also destroyed a lot

@@satireofcircumstance6458 Arabs and Persians* preserved the writings. The Islam just infected and appropriated those 2 great peoples.

He’s strong and independent

@@awsambdaman She*

It wasnt even a 1v3. It was a 1v1.

myron and fresh were literally neutral if anything they agree with Destiny what are you talking about

Bro didn't watch the video and is talking shit. it was a 1 v 1.

Modern day muslims would be upset knowing that the Quran was declared as human speech in their golden age of islam.

Haha. Funny because true.

This is a sub-25 year old thing to say. Folks hated us long before every college aged white girl decided this place was the worst but won't fuckin leave.

Both in terms of hating the US and hating their own countries

Hyoo!

My new favourite bar 🔥

bad argument, and i'm on destiny's side here. Implying that something doesn't work because it didn't work for something other than it's intended purpose is not coherent.

@@YAHOOISNOTGit wasn’t even really an argument, it’s a commonly repeated joke. As far as I’m concerned, the purpose of praying for anything is to have an extradimensional being influence events in your favor, which is asinine and has never even once proven to work.

Thats why its haram to gamble lol. Christ aint your little genie btw

Which genocide did he deny?

@@warrioremperor6320 I can’t read the Hamas terrorists minds. Hamas states in their charter that they would like to eradicate all Jews from the face of the Earth with Islamic justification (Article 7 from the original Hamas charter based on the Hadith from Sahih al-Bukhari 2926). Did they intent a genocide? Arguable it’s not off the table. But massacre with the same justification tactics as was in the Holodomor- “Oh they did it to themselves, and there’s no evidence of rape and the number is smaller blah blah blah despite the overwhelming evidence from eye witnesses, medical assessments, religious justification, Hamas documents, Hamas leaders interviews before and after October 7th and so on.

there was no famine in Ukraine, the starved themselves and then ate themselves, there was no evidence that the Soviet Union ordered the Ukrainians to not eat food

@@warrioremperor6320 he denies the massive slaughter and terrorist attack that happened on october 7

@@warrioremperor6320 Holocaust

Wild af the he tried justify the festival massacre…like a festival being a day late (or whatever) makes it okay do annihilate 200+ unarmed party goers….crazyyyyyy

Lmfao people justify what Israel does to innocents and don’t call it terrorism but wanna call it when the other side does it. I don’t mind calling both terrorism

@@Shiroyashasama Id suggest you look up the meaning of terrorism then. I guess you think when the allies bombed germany in ww2 killing 400,000 civilians that was terrorism?

And the 84 year old grandma with dementia they kidnapped on the golf cart, she was actually special ops Mossad agent that allowed herself to be captured to infiltrate Hamas.

They say the same thing over and over....."blah blah blah, Israeli terrorist regime....blah blah blah, we blame jews for everything". It is so tiresome and soooo full of hate.

Pro Hamas you mean? Destiny himself does pro Palestinian debating better than anyone I've seen, but this guy is straight up the same kind of Hamas Nazi propaganda.