Sennheiser HD 490 Pro Plus Review (Quest for the Best for Gaming)
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Timecodes
0:00 - Intro
0:50 - In the box
3:13 - Performance
11:38 - Closing
@MydenYT 5 ай бұрын
Another amazing and super detailed review. Keep it up Fresh!
@FreshReviewsYT 5 ай бұрын
Ty myden!!!!
@_rdub_ 5 ай бұрын
Great review! Thanks for mentioning the 560's, I love mine but looking at these, hopefully pair pretty well with the iFi zen dac.
@nonameeeeEeno 3 ай бұрын
did you try it and how was your experience? 😅
@chrisnedelchew Ай бұрын
same question
@NachoOchoSix 5 ай бұрын
FINALLY a gaming review of these. Been waiting for this review! Running these through the K11. Do they have the same slight separation deterioration as the K9 Pro on the K11 or worse?
@kuronisama2007 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the review. I was waiting on that one.
@aledsionwright 5 ай бұрын
I’ve been waiting for this review! My DT900 Pro X have a loose cable and are on their way out so I was hoping you’d say they were great
@FreshReviewsYT 5 ай бұрын
Glad I could help!
@sykoticmonkey 5 ай бұрын
My guy thanks for being such an asset to the community! Best reviewer, really appreciate all your hard work! GBY brother !
@FreshReviewsYT 5 ай бұрын
Ty!!
@xGnashty 5 ай бұрын
Second this comment ❤
@abhijithmukundan8002 5 ай бұрын
He is truly a gem among the gaming community, hats off to you sir 👍
@FreshReviewsYT 5 ай бұрын
@@abhijithmukundan8002 tysm!!!
@nukert658 5 ай бұрын
@@FreshReviewsYT My current headphone and favorite that i have tried thus far is the harmonicdyne zeus elite, how do you think these compare for music listening? Also my audio source is fiio q15. also have you had chance to try simgot ea500lm?
@pumpkin1escobar 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video! This was basically what I've been thinking as a replacement for my hd560s with a topping DX3...But I'm also kinda looking for something with a little more bass for music listening so I was also looking at the 660s2 lol.
@FreshReviewsYT 5 ай бұрын
Glad I could help!
@randomusage5515 5 ай бұрын
loved the video you should do a video on sound settings in your games so we can have a deeper insight on what ur hearing ie. if you have htrf enabled on valorant etc
@FreshReviewsYT 5 ай бұрын
Default windows settings. No Spatial Audio. Straight headphone to amp dac. Filter 2 on my topping dx9
@CrafteG Ай бұрын
Hello Fresh! Got DT 900 PRO X after your review and pair it with iFi Zen Dac v2. Then got DT 1990 PRO and added ZEN CAN to the stack with Zen Dac v2. Now I got HD 490 Pro and put my DT 1990 PRO aside. HD 490 Pro wow, just wow. Thanks for your handy reviews Man!
@Sammy0h Ай бұрын
Hey bro 490s worth it over 900 pro for gaming do you think
@CrafteG Ай бұрын
@Sammy0h For sure. They so well sounded and lightweight. I used DT 1990 Pro for about a year playing Tarkov mainly. I got my pair HD 490 recently and can hear everything in Tarkov so much better. My teammates called me a cheater once I used DT 1990 because I was able to hear the enemy much better than they do. Now, they can not believe I'm not cheating - because I hear everything way waaay better than with DT 1990. The first day when I got HD 490 and started to play Tarkov with them, I had a feeling like I played with earplugs wearing DT 1990. HD 490 is phenomenal and extremely comfortable to wear if I compare them vs DT 1990 PRO or DT 900 PRO X. It is also very good for music. I'm using them with cloth earpads straight out of the box. P.S: I wish Sennheiser paid me for this review 😂. It is amazing headphones for gaming and music. Definitely my main headphones now, and I'm currently selling all the rest of the headphones I have.
@5YRID Ай бұрын
@CrafteG im wondering if i should get these for tarkov and other comp games i have truthear zeros and 560s atm.
@CrafteG Ай бұрын
@@5YRID Hey. I don't use IEM's and can compare only vs DT 1990 PRO, DT 900 PRO X, Philips X2HR, SHP9500 and ATH-M50X. HD 490 PRO beat them all in terms of sound in competitive FPS and comfort. For Tarkov HD 490 PRO feels like legal cheating. I hear well better than on DT 1990 PRO which was my last main pair of headphones. I use them on stack iFi Zen DAC v2 + iFi Zen CAN. iFi Zen DAC v2/v3 only is more than enough for HD 490 PRO.
@MistikF 28 күн бұрын
@@CrafteG How's it going? Still on them, like?
@whthppndndnwll 5 ай бұрын
The repeated emphasis on the sound quality difference depending on sources is appreciated. It's also true of IEMs, yet so many in the community proudly disregard it in favor of pushing something like the Apple dongle.
@BrendanMacWade 5 ай бұрын
I didn't think I'd go back to wired headphones, but these and the less new SONY MDR-MV1 are now on my comparison list.
@naoh8026 2 ай бұрын
Hi, I’m also comparing 490 and MV1, how’s your decision?
@rickgear2579 26 күн бұрын
I am very interested myself in the MDR-MV1. I haven't seen anyone talk about them in terms of gaming, but Sony has always produced a nice sound for me.
@YTjuanchicod 5 ай бұрын
Awesome hear you talk about soundstage depth and layering in gaming, terms that only audiophiles use, but that are very important for gaming. Also, waiting your reviews of the HE1000se, i hear those have the better layering ever
@H_e_X_n 5 ай бұрын
I have not tried the HE1000se but I do own the HE1000 Stealth and they are amazing for gaming and music.
@YTjuanchicod 5 ай бұрын
@@H_e_X_n awesome! , what is your chain to feed the HEk?
@H_e_X_n 5 ай бұрын
@@YTjuanchicod I also picked up the Dx9 so I'm using that but previously had a JDS Labs Element 3
@MertLDN 5 ай бұрын
@@H_e_X_n How are you finding your DX9 compared to your Element 3?
@H_e_X_n 5 ай бұрын
@@MertLDN I have not sat down and done an in depth a/b test but from swapping things around one morning I want to say the soundstage is bigger on the Dx9 but I'm not completely sure. It was quick but it was something that stood out to me. The Dx9, like the element 3 has the ability to switch to UAC1 mode but unfortunately the PS5 doesn't recognize it being connected. This leaves me to believe there needs to be a firmware update to get it to work. Topping support said they were planning on testing it out on a ps5 so take that for what it's worth. The element 3 works great so from a gaming perspective I don't have the ability to find out if the Dx9 offers something more.
@djethreii 5 ай бұрын
Given that you've emphasized the topping dx9, I think it's high time that you compare your wall hack certified tier list to motherboard audio ( if applicable). I know that would mean more time spent on testing, but it's something that, I believe, would be helpful for your viewers. Great video as always.
@FreshReviewsYT 5 ай бұрын
The problem with that is everyone’s board is different. So even if I had a bad experience it doesn’t necessarily mean someone else would with potentially a better chip
@BlueScreen64 5 ай бұрын
@@FreshReviewsYT Would the Topping DX9 compare well with the Schiit Magni Unity (internal DAC option)?
@djethreii 5 ай бұрын
@@FreshReviewsYT Makes sense actually, how about maybe for reference point atleast? or maybe try comparing those to your recommended budget dacs? because here lies the problem, not everyone has the luxury to splurge 1300 usd on the topping dx9. 200? 400? no problem, but 1300? that's a lot of commitment for audio equipment. What if there was someone like me who was just sick of how bad gaming headsets were and just decided to look for something else (how i found this channel) but doesn't have anything over 200 or even 100 to spend on new gear (also me) and that's how I ended up with the Truthear Crinacle Zero paired with a 10 usd dongle and that was such a game changer for me. Will always be grateful to have found this channel and I don't want new comers to think that they need to spend 1300 to get a similar experience that you had on your reviews and testing.
@yov023 3 ай бұрын
Just copped. Really keen for these
@FreshReviewsYT 3 ай бұрын
Let’s gooooi
@fxcolin 3 ай бұрын
Hello ! Thanks to your video I decided to buy the HD 490 pro. I use it with the ifi zen dac v2 + ifi zen can combo for music, movies and gaming and the result is incredible! I can't imagine what it would be like with DX9..
@FreshReviewsYT 3 ай бұрын
I am very happy to hear that. Enjoy!!!!!!!
@P4sta. 5 ай бұрын
glad to see u doing headphone reviews again, keep it up love the content as always :)
@FreshReviewsYT 5 ай бұрын
❤️
@Rokkit. 5 ай бұрын
Definitely!
@Mariscos420 5 ай бұрын
Damn you have these already! Nice surprise. The non plus comes with both earpads.
@FreshReviewsYT 5 ай бұрын
Glad to hear that!
@93aimar 2 ай бұрын
Just ordered the hd490 pro after watching this . Paired it with k7 i hope to get the same or close experience you had. Thanks for the review.
@FreshReviewsYT 2 ай бұрын
Have fun!
@MistikF 25 күн бұрын
Do u like it?
@Phantom1000 3 ай бұрын
Hey Fresh, I am curious what "deterioration in separation" you had experienced when you were using the K9 PRO AKM version dac. I am eyeing on an AK4191+AK4499EX DAC/AMP, I want to make sure I can test out the issue you mentioned once I got it to see if it would hinder the hd 490 pro performance.
@Official_ISmokeyTheBear 4 ай бұрын
Hi fresh! Looking for a dac/amp and saw you recommend the dx3 pro+. You think that would make a great pair with this?
@nifty6486 4 ай бұрын
absolutely loving this series, been a massive help already. Just wondering though if a comparison video between all the current "wall hack" headphones is in the works for the near future? awesome content, keep it up
@FreshReviewsYT 4 ай бұрын
Ty glad you’ve been enjoying it
@dmicik1 5 ай бұрын
Ah man, so many options to choose from in the audio space. currently I only have the em6l but I've been thinking about getting some headphones for those days I don't feel like wearing an IEM. curious if the dx3 pro+ will sound better than my motu m2 interface I have my xlr mic going into -- that interface is praised for having a good dac. I could either get these, or the dx3pro + AND either the 900 pro x or 560s. So many choices xD
@itzturtlexd1721 2 ай бұрын
Yo the apex clips playing on the side are wild 😂 Homies accuracy is incredible. 🔥
@FreshReviewsYT 2 ай бұрын
Haha ty
@InvictusLegend 5 ай бұрын
Are the DT 900 Pro X's better than the Xenns Top in terms of a super wide soundstage and imaging?
@TreSwayy 5 ай бұрын
I might need to get a better source. I learned that the ps5 through mini dac doesn’t really affect audio quality since the smsl c200 can connect directly with ps5 via uac 1.1. This means I can buy the higher end stuff like your dx9 or the geshelli gear.
@sevr0w 5 ай бұрын
Hey fresh, was wondering if you ever tested a Closed-Back Headphone and it was almost good enough for the Wallhack Tier List? Love my DT1990 and DT900 but living close to a highly frequented street makes me wish i had an capable closed-back too. Best regards
@piitviiper 5 ай бұрын
Great review as always! So they work great on your $1,300 amp, not so great on a $650-$800 amp, would it even be worth it to consider these for something in the budget range? I'm running the EM6L's on a Schiit Magni Unity right now and for my peasant/uncultured ears they sound great. Do you think the quality would suffer too much if I tried to run these on the Magni?
@FreshReviewsYT 5 ай бұрын
It might be worth a try. Have to always keep in mind that even though I tested them on expensive amps, it doesn’t exclude the possibility of them shining on less expensive things. This is just all I had on hand to test it on. In fact in general, I’ve had better experiences on cheaper things in terms of depth and separation compared to the k9. Such as the smsl do400 and topping dx3 pro+
@axipaxi2244 5 ай бұрын
My current audio combination is the iFi Audio Zen Signature Bundle HFM and Beyerdynamix DT 900 Pro X, is an increase possible with the Sennheiser HD 490 Pro?
@chrisnedelchew Ай бұрын
I have the same setup and the very same question. Too bad it was not answered.
@mento730 5 ай бұрын
I am currently running the HD58x. How do these compare? Would it be worth upgrading to these?
@Justmakesomenoiz 3 ай бұрын
Nice review seems like a good pair of headphones. How do they sound with the little brother topping dx3 pro+ beacuse that's a less competent ldac and amplifier. Or do you need even more power to get theese into coming alive?
@kaioukun2505 5 ай бұрын
Hey Fresh ! Cheers from Switzerland, Do you mind sometimes try your "audio setup" on a game like EFT ? for me it's where i see changes between one and another. Continue your work it's amazing and fresh to get a gaming point of view !
@FreshReviewsYT 5 ай бұрын
I’ll try to make it my mission to test in EFT! Love ya Switzerland
@LazersPewPew 5 ай бұрын
I’ve been using the Steel series arctis nova pro wireless for almost 2 years. Would this be an upgrade? I don’t have a dac atm but what would be a cost effective dac to pair with the 490 pro plus if I were to get it. Amazing video btw!
@Lost1ntheSauc3 5 ай бұрын
Absolutely, it'll be a very noticeable upgrade in sound quality. There are lots of nice affordable dongle dacs these days such as the Moondrop Moonriver Ti or the Questyle m12/m15. Schitt or ifi audios' lower end gear are all great desktop solutions too.
@LazersPewPew 5 ай бұрын
@@Lost1ntheSauc3 thank you for the recommendations!
@8aked 5 ай бұрын
Would love to see you test the Meze 109 Pros
@dustinmihalcheon5013 5 ай бұрын
Agreed. I’m curious about those too!!
@legendarytony6418 5 ай бұрын
Subscribed, I think audiophile and gaming should be on par an that's helpful !
@FreshReviewsYT 5 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@Cemito 3 ай бұрын
Great review going to be subbing
@FreshReviewsYT 3 ай бұрын
Awesome thank you!
@msd5808 5 ай бұрын
I wonder if the Sony MDR-MV1 compares well since it seems to specialize in spatial audio and has a frequency response like DT 990.
@FreshReviewsYT 5 ай бұрын
I actually didn’t like the profile of the sony unfortunately
@ryanbeflyin8388 5 ай бұрын
Just got mine today! love them so far and the comfort is extremely nice! Do you ever EQ any of these headphones when you go from game to game or just regular use?
@FreshReviewsYT 5 ай бұрын
I don’t. But I will test to see which ear cup sounds best
@DEM0NJEDI 5 ай бұрын
Another banger!!
@dustinmihalcheon5013 5 ай бұрын
These were one of two I was considering. Have you tried out the Audeze MM-100 yet? I just got them and adore them for gaming.
@FreshReviewsYT 5 ай бұрын
I haven’t yet
@An_Enraged_Pig 5 ай бұрын
How do those compare to the maxwells?
@dustinmihalcheon5013 5 ай бұрын
The Maxwell and the MM-100 I guess you mean? The imaging is a little more precise with the MM-100 and I found the soundstage to be more realistic then the Maxwell. They didn't have the depth for things in the distance where as it felt organic with the MM-100 to know how far away a gun battle was taking place for example. Otherwise they are very simular. The MM-100 is a little more airy and subdued because it isn't close back as well.@@An_Enraged_Pig
@invisiblesailboat5355 5 ай бұрын
Hey FreshReviews, I recently got the headset today and they sound absolutely amazing for gaming. I am using the Fiio K11 to run them, but I was wondering since the amp/dac is a very budget option would it be better to get the 560s?
@FreshReviewsYT 5 ай бұрын
Not necessarily. I haven’t tested either on the k11 yet though to say for sure. As long as they are sounding really good to you though that’s awesome!
@HD-nv9ru 5 ай бұрын
Sup fresh I got the harmonicdyne Zeus elite because of u and they are great still … question, is this better than the Zeus elite?
@FreshReviewsYT 5 ай бұрын
Both headphones are very good. I give the slight edge to the 490. Probably not worth the full upgrade, but I do have to say I do give the gaming lead to the 490
@c-samleystudios1573 5 ай бұрын
Which ear pads do you think would be better outside of competitive gaming? Would the velour’s warmer tone maybe be better for immersive single player games, music, and/or movies?
@FreshReviewsYT 5 ай бұрын
I think so
@klaymoon1 5 ай бұрын
Great review! Does it use 4-pin mini XLR or 3-pin mini XLR connector? Thanks.
@FreshReviewsYT 5 ай бұрын
4 pin. I got a corpse cables gravedigger cable recently. Going to test it soon.
@calpispop 5 ай бұрын
I would love to try these against my thrift store HD700.
@matthewrezuke8130 5 ай бұрын
I have a pair of HD700, I am using a dac/amp for my computer and they are amazing.
@samk1301 5 ай бұрын
Hey Fresh! Would the topping dx3 pro + be powerful enough to drive these headphones? Also, is this a big upgrade over the hd 560s? I currently have the 560s but love the swivel earcups and the look of these
@Gridpipe 5 ай бұрын
Yeah audiosciencereview says that amp runs the hd650 well which is harder to drive. Topping ftw
@bugbuster8598 5 ай бұрын
Hope we'll see a budget headphones tierlist one day... a man can dream... :)
@FreshReviewsYT 5 ай бұрын
There is one for IEMs.
@bugbuster8598 5 ай бұрын
@@FreshReviewsYT I know, I know... I just wish there were options for those of us with a bit more vulnerable ear canals ;)
@FreshReviewsYT 5 ай бұрын
@@bugbuster8598 oh a headphone one. Hmmmmmm. You know hmmmm I might have to look at some ideas
@DeusRegum 5 ай бұрын
Will the Schiit Fulla SCH-19-2 (Fulla 2) drive these properly? I'd hate to have to buy yet another dac/amp. Thanks!
@zanderxu4113 5 ай бұрын
Great video! Any plans for a comprehensive review of the DX9?
@FreshReviewsYT 5 ай бұрын
I should do a more full review
@alexandern5296 5 ай бұрын
omg finally something new from senn? thanks for the review. are these a noticeable upgrade to the hd660s or hifiman sundaras? both music and gaming.
@FreshReviewsYT 5 ай бұрын
I personally think it’s an upgrade over the sundara for sure for gaming
@FreshReviewsYT 5 ай бұрын
I can’t recall my experience with the 660
@alexandern5296 5 ай бұрын
@@FreshReviewsYT awesome thanks! I told myself I would stop buying headphones, mice and keyboards 😩😭 LOL
@TheTechne 5 ай бұрын
I need the Palworld sound profile 😂
@FreshReviewsYT 5 ай бұрын
Techne!! I thought of you for this one. The ambient noise in palworld on this can is insane. I can listen to the waterfalls and wind blowing for hours 🤣
@TheTechne 5 ай бұрын
@@FreshReviewsYT LOL, I hope I get the same results with the $3k headphones I just purchased, 🤣
@FreshReviewsYT 5 ай бұрын
@@TheTechne let’s goooooo! Can’t wait to hear about em!
@skepti.r6 3 ай бұрын
I have a hifiman sundara with a fiio k7. do you think this would be worth the upgrade? i mainly play rainbow six siege. Thoughts vs the HD 650/600
@An_Enraged_Pig 5 ай бұрын
I just bought the audeze maxwells, they are amazing. But I already have ear ringing and they sound narrow (I’m assuming all closed backs do) I wonder if this open back headset will give me more of a wider sound feel. Sometimes in apex although the maxwells are great I get narrowed in the audio and I lose track of people
@FreshReviewsYT 5 ай бұрын
Essentially yea
@JF9DM51 3 ай бұрын
@FreshReviewsYT I watched this video over a month ago and you sold me on them. My first step into a true quality headphone for gaming. Along with my first step I bought a Topping DX3 Pro Plus to go with the 490. Do you think I'm leaving a lot on the table using this DAC/amp?
@FreshReviewsYT 3 ай бұрын
I don’t think so. It’s great for what it is. You will hear improvements though going better
@JF9DM51 3 ай бұрын
@@FreshReviewsYT Really appreciate the rapid response. You gave me the comfort in buying these in the first place and now you confirmed it. I've been loving them!
@FreshReviewsYT 3 ай бұрын
@@JF9DM51 happy to hear!
@v1rtual_reality656 5 ай бұрын
Have you ever reviewed any hifiman headphones for gaming? ive got a pair so im curious
@JasonCioffi 5 ай бұрын
Do you have a suggestion for a low impedence headphone that you can attach a boom mic to and run off a controller?
@ItsZim0 5 ай бұрын
Fresh, pls review Thieaudio Prestige Ltd if you can. You might love it since you like Monarch Mk3 so much
@Sammy0h Ай бұрын
I hope this helps some of you with your decision making. I play COD 99% of the time and am a 3KD player for reference. I decided to pull the trigger on these, I have DT 900 pro's and Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lights as comparison. I Run Art is war audio tune. After watching Biffle, Shifty etc with their audio I could never understand how they could pinpoint, locate and hear players so well. Even though I had "A Tier" headphones. This has totally changed with the 490 pros. I have never heard positional accuracy like it. I can hear people swinging corners. I can slide cancel corners, break cameras and Prefire so much better. I can turn on kids when I hear them behind me. They don't sound "better" than the others, but the positional audio is on a different level. Yes they are expensive, but am so thankful I pulled the trigger. Would not hesitate.
@FreshReviewsYT Ай бұрын
Thanks so much for sharing sammy
@rodrigoleitao4700 Ай бұрын
Hey, I also play cod/warzone only and have the orchestra lite with art war tunning… how do you compare? Which DAC do you have? Thanks!
@Sammy0h Ай бұрын
@@rodrigoleitao4700 read above? Much prefer the 490s. I have a Fiio k7
@ktg_2castle960 14 күн бұрын
I was looking at the vzr model one and ended up here. I might have to try the vzr one over this. It is just too interesting
@kephrentv 5 ай бұрын
Can you buy balanced cable for this? My fiio k3 the sound is too low in 3.5mm
@FreshReviewsYT 5 ай бұрын
Yea you can. Hart audio has some affordable ones
@BenchmarkingTom 5 ай бұрын
Hi, I'm in the process of upgrading to a better audio setup. Currently, I'm using the HD 560S + ifi Zen Dac. After watching your videos, I'm torn between which of these two headphones are better for competitive gaming and getting more enjoyment out of games. I'm considering the HarmonicDyne Zeus Elite and the HD 490 Pro Plus. As I mentioned, the source will be the ifi Zen Dac, but in the future, I plan to upgrade it to something even better. Which of these headphones would you recommend more and find a bit better, as they seem to be very close in performance?
@TreSwayy 5 ай бұрын
Go for the 490
@FreshReviewsYT 5 ай бұрын
I find the 490 better for gaming ultimately but the Zeus elite are also very good of course
@reignxcv2960 4 ай бұрын
Could you compare these to DT 1990 Pro?
@x-ray3431 5 ай бұрын
Did you compare these to the HD800S?
@ASTROSR4 4 ай бұрын
How do these compare to DT1990/900 Prox or Zeus Elite? If I have the Zeus Elite is it worth swapping to the 490 Pro
@yherz3825 4 ай бұрын
have you tried R70x ? and what you think about symphonium audio iems if you heard about them?
@dul1k 5 ай бұрын
hey my friend, how do you compare hd 490 pro plus vs HarmonicDyne Zeus Elite ? Listening to your review i figured those two could be a fair matchup
@FreshReviewsYT 5 ай бұрын
Most definitely a fair match up. The 490 comes off very analytical. More of a tool in comparison to the fun factor. Depth I’d say is better. Both great headphones but for gaming I’d probably go 490. Close call
@FTGTapGod 5 ай бұрын
Wow it's great to hear a Sennheiser can outside of the HD 800 series That doesn't have the dreaded three blob imaging. We'll have to give these a shot. My current rabbit hole/search is finding a closed-back over ear that I like almost as much as my HD 800s. I moved to a busy City and have to deal with a higher noise floor. The LCD XC came extremely close but they are way too heavy for long sessions. Just got in a pair of DCA aeon noires that I'm hoping to test more this week. Would love to hear your thoughts if you have any experience with a closed set you enjoy.
@FreshReviewsYT 5 ай бұрын
I don’t yet other than the mmx300 which was pretty good
@VexxedSR 5 ай бұрын
I've personally tried lots of different closed backs and can't say why anyone would bother when IEMs can provide a similar soundstage with superior detail retrieval and imaging for a lower price.
@FTGTapGod 5 ай бұрын
@@VexxedSR comfort and convenience mostly. I have rolled through a ton of IEMs and haven't found a single pair that don't hurt after a while. I especially find them awkward while eating and don't find them as easy to throw on and off throughout the day when I get up and down from my desk. I'm sure custom molded IEMs would solve a lot of my gripes, but that is more of a purchase commitment as the cost of the molds hold 0 resale value. That and the need to clean them regularly is something I deal with. Lots of personal reasons why I prefer over ear cans, but if you have a favorite IEM for detail retrieval and imaging (I care more about imaging than stage size) I'd love to give them a try!
@VexxedSR 5 ай бұрын
@@FTGTapGod My favourite would be the QDC Anole VX, great comfort, out of this world detail retrieval and imaging but costs an arm and a leg. Cheaper options I would just go and try the Shuoer S12, Hexa or the Olina SE and pick the one that sounds best to you. Kiwiears Melody is also a good choice if you want something with more bass.
@FTGTapGod 5 ай бұрын
@@VexxedSR well I'll check them out. So far I've tried Starfield, Blessing 2, the Samsung/akg earbuds, and some midrange Sennheiser IEs. Nothing has sold me on IEMs even though I quite liked the Starfield for gaming. Maybe I just need to try higher end options around $500-1000.
@D3humaniz3d 5 ай бұрын
I would love to see you review the Audiotechnica R70X's.
@RenbroNL 5 ай бұрын
Agreed. They seem to fly a little bit under the radar. Have seen some claims that it's really good though.
@D3humaniz3d 5 ай бұрын
@@RenbroNL I actually own them and call them my "endgame" - I can spend all day with them on my head and never get fatigued due to the light weight build and the comfortable wing mount headband (it's not for everyone's head though, so it's a hit or miss). If not for the cable I sometimes forget that I'm wearing them. BUT, I've seen weird claims that say completely opposite things about them, and I would love to see someone with competitive skills test them out and put their opinion on the table.
@gigolocalypsetv5520 5 ай бұрын
@@D3humaniz3d Own these and the HarmonicDyne Zeus Elite, and I juggle them. The R70x is bonkers for detail ajd soundstage, and the Zeus Elite may not be as wide but it's very detailed and it's a lil more fun in it's tone.
@sonnyyu386 5 ай бұрын
fresh told me he didn't like the build quality on twitter
@a2raya772 5 ай бұрын
i own them, amazing with dac/amp. great for gaming, good soundstage. even for the price.
@danny_3511 3 ай бұрын
Great review! What audio interface would I need to power and get the most out of the hd490 pro and a shure sm7b for about $300.
@FreshReviewsYT 3 ай бұрын
I’d get a scarlet solo 4th gen and ifi zen dac v2
@mmayojr 5 ай бұрын
Just got mine and I'm running it with an ifi zen dac v2 and they sound amazing! Definitely do what you say, imaging is amazing. I finally can say I have found a headset that allows me to hear things I've never been able to hear, that's even with my Kiwi ears orchestra lites. I can hear people coming up behind mid fight in Apex, which I even struggled with my Orchestra lites. Awesome headphones! I personally don't think there anything special for music tbh and that might just be my opinion but nothing stands out to me. Very clear and clean sounding, not a lot of bass, for music. But I haven't used the velour cups so maybe the bass would be better for music.
@FreshReviewsYT 5 ай бұрын
Yes precisely! The velour will be more flavorful for music. So glad you love them! I’m having a hard time putting them down myself. They are fantastic for gaming
@mmayojr 5 ай бұрын
@@FreshReviewsYT Was kind of blown away when I killed an octane and then immediately heard his teammate coming up behind in a fight. Then I heard someone going up a Zipline about 30-40 meters away and could hear it and pinpoint it right away.
@FreshReviewsYT 5 ай бұрын
@@mmayojr yea it’s a beautiful thing!!
@LS-is5ob 5 ай бұрын
Hey so you use just the dac, no amp? I’m kind of a noob in this topic but did you eq your headphones or do you just plug them in the dac and use at is? And do you use the balanced or unbalanced port?
@mmayojr 5 ай бұрын
@@LS-is5ob I use unbalanced, and yeah it's just plug and play in the dac/amp.
@kevinrohoman6857 5 ай бұрын
I purchased these based off your review. I did order the SMSL C200 to pair with these. Is this setup going to work well together? Should I use the Velour or Cloth pads for Warzone? Thanks for all your help!
@FreshReviewsYT 5 ай бұрын
My buddy uses the velour cups and plays at a very high level. I’d try both though to see!
@GoldenEagle0007 2 ай бұрын
how is the smsl c200 working for you with them?
@bilbobegkills8487 5 ай бұрын
Hi and thanks for the detailed review! 😊 I have been rocking ifi zen dac and dt 990 pro 250ohms for 3 years and I have been looking for new headphones for a while now. HD560S, DT 900 Pro X and 490 Pro’s are the ones that I find most interesting. Any suggestions which ones to pick? My usage is just mainly competitive gaming. And any idea is ifi zen dac enough to drive all these headphones? Thanks for the help! 💪
@FreshReviewsYT 5 ай бұрын
490s and they work well on the zen
@bilbobegkills8487 5 ай бұрын
@@FreshReviewsYTdecided to pick sennheisers as u recommended, didn’t disappoint! Noticeably better than the dts 👌👌
@avedgy 5 ай бұрын
Do these drivers come from another headphone or are they made specific for theirself in this headphone?
@littlebear4543 5 ай бұрын
How would these compare to the kiwi orchestra light? Especially for warzone.
@monjbaker Ай бұрын
Only just found you recently, love the videos. Looking to get myself some high end headphones for gaming, specifically FPS' such as Rainbow Six and CS2. I'm not planning on getting an amp /dax. Plugging straight into the PC do you think the 490s would still be the best wall hack headphone?
@FreshReviewsYT Ай бұрын
I think the experience will be different because of your source. Whether your on board audio is decent I can’t say
@aGrimTurtle 5 ай бұрын
How big are the ear cups? I currently have the HD8XX’s and considering downgrading because these were so expensive and almost doesn’t feel worth it
@jross1798 5 ай бұрын
Burn em. 8xx is a tragedy. Sell em, pocket cash and get these.
@aGrimTurtle 5 ай бұрын
@@jross1798 lol I know stock they suck but with EQ they come pretty close to 800s. But yeah these 490's seem veeeeery enticing. I've been thinking for a while that if Sennheiser made an HD600 with better soundstage it'd be perfect for me and this seems close to that
@Adixu Ай бұрын
hey, may i know if u were using any equalizer? or just stock settings
@FreshReviewsYT Ай бұрын
I don’t test or review anything with an eq
@lammiwinks3775 5 ай бұрын
Love the review! Question do you use Dolby Atmos or prefer stereo?
@FreshReviewsYT 5 ай бұрын
Stereo for sure
@Piqueras.2 3 ай бұрын
Between the HD 490 and the HD 600, which one would you choose? I'm looking between the Beyerdyamic DT990 pro and the HD 600, I didn't know about these HD 490, that's why the doubt, although I don't know if you've tried the HD 600 or if you plan to try them.
@FreshReviewsYT 3 ай бұрын
490
@L330HH 5 ай бұрын
Great review! Of all your wallhack tier list headphones, if you could only choose one to game with until the end of time, which would it be?
@FreshReviewsYT 5 ай бұрын
Man, if I could only choose one right now it would either be the he1000se or hd490
@djsoulfilter 5 ай бұрын
@@FreshReviewsYT Wow the HD490's are that good?! I'm definitely thinking of buying a pair!
@FreshReviewsYT 5 ай бұрын
@@djsoulfilter they’re quite nice and really comfortable
@djsoulfilter 5 ай бұрын
@@FreshReviewsYT I'm currently using a set of Sennheiser HD518's so the 490's would be a big upgrade.
@Impecable.. 5 ай бұрын
How would you compare these to the ATH-R70X’s? My DAC/AMP is the smsl dl200
@FreshReviewsYT 5 ай бұрын
I like this way more
@Gridpipe 5 ай бұрын
Wow you have these. I was considering waiting for your review but I have the zeus elite being delivered today. Got them new for £230. The hd490 are £333 from thomann UK, should i stick or twist?
@FreshReviewsYT 5 ай бұрын
The Zeus elite is great. Imo the hd490 wins for gaming. But it might be worth trying the Zeus elite and seeing how you like them. Comes with a great package
@houssamalucad753 5 ай бұрын
The price u got on the elites is a great deal, especially with the add-ons it comes with and the sound..
@Gridpipe 5 ай бұрын
@@FreshReviewsYT I'll probably get the 490s now and compare! Have you seen the sound test in pubg? Seems a good test for objective comparisons kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mp9xn8aZ356dl3k.htmlsi=3gu4cHkqJQtODNlT
@Gridpipe 5 ай бұрын
@houssamalucad753 yeah "new" from ebay, remains to be seen how new or genuine they are! 😄
@Gridpipe 5 ай бұрын
@FreshReviewsYT bro i asked if youd tried out the pubg sound test but for some reason the comment has disappeared, it seems ideal for testing headphone imaging in gaming so i'll repost: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mp9xn8aZ356dl3k.htmlsi=3gu4cHkqJQtODNlT
@user-vr6vy8nu1j 4 ай бұрын
Sorry for my bad english, I want to know if k9 pro ess separation worsening only happens in hd490 pro? Doesn't this happen with other in-ears or headphones you've tested?
@FreshReviewsYT 4 ай бұрын
Yes sir it does
@PeterrDingDong 4 ай бұрын
Can you make a tier list in order with all the wall hack headphones?
@bentoby2123 4 ай бұрын
Have you tried the hifiman sundaras? Would love to hear your thoughts on them for gaming in terms of imagery and spatial clarity.
@FreshReviewsYT 4 ай бұрын
I have. Did not enjoy
@reburn1479 2 ай бұрын
Is the list of your budget DACs ordered from best to worst? Planning to get these headphones along with a DAC and I’m eyeing the zen v2.
@FreshReviewsYT 2 ай бұрын
No they’re in no specific order!
@zerotactix5739 5 ай бұрын
Fresh, I love the EM6L, but do you really think DACs make a ton of difference? I currently have the Zen DAC v1. Do you think upgrading that would help or is it still relevant?
@FreshReviewsYT 5 ай бұрын
It really depends on what you’re driving pertaining to how big of a difference you’ll get. For instance some IEMs sound great with my other amp dacs in comparison to the dx9. However, this headphone was different.
@GodlyBeams 5 ай бұрын
For your use case upgrading the stack wouldn’t be worth it. Until you get into some higher end IEMs or headphones stick to what you’re using. High end audio has a lot of diminishing returns and it’s very specific to your ears. My best recommendation is going to a store and trying products. They typically will let you bring your own headphones/earphones
@zerotactix5739 3 ай бұрын
@@GodlyBeams thank you. Still sticking with the Zen DAC that i already own.
@nogonperson7357 3 ай бұрын
Hi which headphones/IEMs would you go with without amp/dac below 350?
@paulkwok9523 5 ай бұрын
What is the gap between DX9 and SMSL Do400 in games? I am using Xenns Top, Is there an approximate score?
@FreshReviewsYT 5 ай бұрын
The issue is the difference is very hard to quantify in words. What I can say is the dx9 has better separation and a cleaner sound. The depth within the stage is easier to feel/read. I think the do400 is great though and should make most people happy
@Rokkit. 5 ай бұрын
I wonder how these would compare to the Nuenann NDH 30 headphones.
@Redtop1989 3 ай бұрын
got these headphones but onfortunately one speaker wasnt working or very low volume. i didnt manage to get full sound by wiggling the cable and from what i heard of them they were awesome for gaming. i sent them back and just have an email to say my replacements are on the way i cant wait. sounded great with a fiio k5 pro ess.
@TheJuantech52 5 ай бұрын
Sir I have a quick question hopefully you can help me I have that Matrix mini I Pro 3 and the Sennheiser HD 800 S and I use it for gaming my question is is there any particular software that I should be using for audio
@FreshReviewsYT 5 ай бұрын
No. I only use stereo sound. As in, I do not use Spatial Audio or fake surround
@subbybass1432 5 ай бұрын
Have you tried any HD6x0? I'm trying to like my hd600 but the comfort/clamp is not nice at all and the subbass rolloff is kinda sad if you're listening to electronic music tbh. I've heard the clamp and comfort is much better and the bass is deeper on the 490, can you confirm that?
@FreshReviewsYT 5 ай бұрын
IMO confirmed
@Mr_ZFG 5 ай бұрын
Do you know if any microphone can be utilized to that plug to make it more like a headset? Im enjoying my dt 990 pro but not heaving built in mic annoys the hell out of me
@55Jeffrey 5 ай бұрын
ModMic from Antlion Audio?
@Mr_ZFG 5 ай бұрын
@55Jeffrey not a fan (have it) I wonder if there are any that would plug into headphones similar to audeze lcd-gx (I really don't want to spend $900 for mic)
@Parchie 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the review! Do you prefer these over the DT 1990 Pros? Those are my current headphones and wondering if it would be worth considering.
@FreshReviewsYT 5 ай бұрын
The 1990s with the right pads are exceptionally good. But the 490s are some of the best I’ve used mixed with my dx9. I did not A and B test the two to compare side by side. But I believe the 490 gets the edge for gaming
@FreshReviewsYT 5 ай бұрын
Also. I should note I didn’t have my dx9 when I tested my 1990
@DeDovla 5 ай бұрын
@@FreshReviewsYT When you say "1990s with the right pads", do you refer to Balanced vs Analytical that come in the box or Dekoni Elite Fenestrated that you used at some point?
@LarpingSupply 5 ай бұрын
What do you like better about these over your IEMs? I love my Xenns Top but I may experiment with headphone…
@FreshReviewsYT 5 ай бұрын
More engaging sound stage larger sound stage better depth perception
@LarpingSupply 5 ай бұрын
@@FreshReviewsYTAny benefit to IEMs? You think you would buy these over Xenns Top or other high end IEMs?!
@day-yt 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for the review! I am thinking between this and DT 1990 pro. What is better for gaming and music?
@day-yt 5 ай бұрын
I found the answer in another video of yours, thank you 😊 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qM51hq6czba5gJs.htmlsi=U1YEWkxGSPhtT85d
@FreshReviewsYT 5 ай бұрын
The 1990s can be great for gaming but require third party cups to really shine and a nice amp dac. Personally even with those things I think I’d still give the edge to the 490 for gaming
@MaximKachurin 5 ай бұрын
Will plugging them in Dualsense controller degrade sound quality too much? I'm asking because I saw reports online that 560S works ok with Dualsense and it's only a 10 ohm difference.
@FreshReviewsYT 5 ай бұрын
If I had to guess, probably will degrade too much
@sup3rant10 5 ай бұрын
Hi, big fan of your channel, I have been buying my audio gears for the last 2 years based on your recommendations. I have been thinking about upgrading my 560s for these new HD490. Do you think the smsl c200 would be a good match with it? Thank you
@FreshReviewsYT 5 ай бұрын
Could be a tough one honestly.
@DeDovla 5 ай бұрын
Take a look at SMSL DL200 it's like a slightly better performing C200 (since you're looking for a around 200$ DAC/AMP combo). I think it's currently the best in the price range.
@sup3rant10 5 ай бұрын
@@DeDovlathank you for the recommendation, too bad I already bought the c200. I saw it on amazon for 160$ and ordered it right away.
@pk.002 5 ай бұрын
I just got the Moondrop Para and love them for gaming, how do the 490's compare? I would like to check these out but I'm not sure if it's worth dropping another $400 so soon.
@Lost1ntheSauc3 5 ай бұрын
They sound very different, and both are great in their own ways. They could absolutely be worth it if you want a contrasting flavour of sound. It's always good to have variety imo, so things don't get stale!
@FreshReviewsYT 5 ай бұрын
These are better than the para, but please do not ever buy something unless you can comfortably return it if you’re not happy with the end result. Again, for me the difference between this and the para is feel is significant. Also like sauce said, two very different headphones that provide very different presentations generally
@pk.002 5 ай бұрын
@@Lost1ntheSauc3 That's what I figured, I have other Senns like the HD 600 and 560S and I've owned the HD 800S too so that was my frame of reference to go off of. I'd love to give them a shot once I'm able to.
@MertLDN 5 ай бұрын
I’ve had the HarmonicDyne Zeus Elite since August and I love how they sound but the build quality is seriously bad. My first pair had an unbearably loud creaking sound coming from the left ear cup every time I would slightly move my head or open my mouth to talk or when I would chew on my food. I returned them back to Linsoul for a replacement and they sent me a new pair. I’ve been using my second pair for a few months now and it had no issues up until a week ago where there is now again the same creaking sound coming from the left earcup everytime I slightly move my head, talk, or chew on food etc. I have seen a couple people online who have also experienced the same creaking sound as well. Also, the headband could do with a tiny bit more padding as well personally as I feel like the top of my head gets a bit fatigued after wearing the Zeus Elites for a few hours. HarmonicDyne seriously need to improve their build quality. After watching this video I l think I might just get the HD 490 Pros and not worry about build quality as these seem really well built.
@FreshReviewsYT 5 ай бұрын
Damn!
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