Bush Pilot Technique Cessna 172 Landing on Short Field

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Friendly Skies Film

Friendly Skies Film

7 жыл бұрын

Season 2, Episode 23
George takes on a difficult approach in the Cessna 172, and all in the name of a good breakfast!
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@andysmith6824
@andysmith6824 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this! And a double-thank you for NOT adding music to the video!!! So many good videos are ruined by crappy music that covers up what we want to hear. Good piloting skills----nicely done. I haven't flown in several years, but would like to get current again. Landing at an uncontrolled field like this brought back so many fun memories. Thanks again!
@FriendlySkiesFilm
@FriendlySkiesFilm 7 жыл бұрын
Glad I could make you smile :)
@Slideways24
@Slideways24 Жыл бұрын
@@FriendlySkiesFilm I totally agree with the no music. Everyone has different music tastes. The sound of the engines, whether it's airplanes or racecars is the only music I need.
@dkeberhard
@dkeberhard 7 жыл бұрын
this is a great video for teaching situational awareness. busy airfield, lots happening, pattern entry options, etc, etc. great job guys.
@FriendlySkiesFilm
@FriendlySkiesFilm 7 жыл бұрын
We do our best! :) Glad you enjoyed.
@douglasrodrigues332
@douglasrodrigues332 6 жыл бұрын
The majority of pilots have never landed on a genuine short field. I would like to caution novice pilots that it takes more length to takeoff than it did to land.
@robertwatson818
@robertwatson818 Жыл бұрын
How "short" is short field? Middle of the Gulf--1400 feet? Water at both ends. Around Empire, Louisiana between the levee and highway--900 feet with takeoff heading right at the levee with a loaded C-150 licensed in Experimental category? 2000 foot grass strip--40--60 foot trees at both ends--90 degrees with 85% humidity. How short is short---and why?
@MKwan82
@MKwan82 7 ай бұрын
I've inadvertently taken off with only 800 ft on one of my solo when I was still a student pilot. I had to dump flap 10 at the end to gain altitude fast. But I would never do it again. Low hours and being impatience do not mix well.
@juanflyer8443
@juanflyer8443 6 жыл бұрын
nice job with traffic and Zero delay in action to bring in a great landing. Thanks for sharing. Shout out for Madrid, Spain
@michaelthomopoulos5985
@michaelthomopoulos5985 4 жыл бұрын
What a pleasure to watch!!! I am a classical musician who knows absolutely nobody else who loves to fly. These two guys were just speaking our language in an every day way! Love it.
@kennethlund6558
@kennethlund6558 4 жыл бұрын
Brings back old memories, but it didn’t look all that short. Good job!
@FreePilotTraining
@FreePilotTraining 11 ай бұрын
That’s cool. I had some one send this video to me in the comments on my video where I tested out this technique. It definitely works!
@bigtxbullion
@bigtxbullion 6 жыл бұрын
i dont even fly and i love watching these. solid videos brother. really appreciate the nav diagrams to see what you are talking about in your approach. am 35 with a fulltime career in commercial RE but this looks so fun. making me want to take this on.
@FriendlySkiesFilm
@FriendlySkiesFilm 6 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy them :)
@ElliotBritton
@ElliotBritton 7 жыл бұрын
Bravissimo! I rescind my comment about not having a soft touchdown- this landing is absolutely textbook for a short field approach.
@GreenFillwood
@GreenFillwood 7 жыл бұрын
All apart from dumping the flaps whilst still airbourne that is!
@outwiththem
@outwiththem 7 жыл бұрын
I as a Bush Pilot CFI never liked to say "Dump the Flaps". I said Cut the Flaps instead. He "Cut the Flaps to Cut the lift" Saying Dump, means "down". it is not the right term to use. Like Forward Slip vs Side Slip BS.
@reaj2010
@reaj2010 6 жыл бұрын
Now that was a nice video and nice to see everyone cooperating to get in and around.
@airmuseum
@airmuseum 7 жыл бұрын
I'm 80 years old..In my prime we flew patterns around landing areas that allowed us to glide to a landing on the runway from any point in the pattern except immediately after takeoff. Approaches were made high enough that power need not be carried. We called them precision landings. I know this is more difficult to accomplish when there is traffic and ATC, but you can insist on your flying an approach path that insures your landing on the runway in case of a failure. You are the pilot in command and nobody else, including ATC and other traffic will share the blame if you end up buying the farm.
@outwiththem
@outwiththem 7 жыл бұрын
That is how i learned too. Piper Colt. 80 mph all the way from up to the flare. Forward Slips to control speed if too hot. Worked well. Soloed at 10 hours.
@brian6779
@brian6779 5 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you. I prefer to approach high and apply full flaps so that I can keep my performance high until the very last approach.
@flycubfly
@flycubfly 5 жыл бұрын
I agree and do the same . The last thing I want to have to do is walk to the end of the runway .
@johnelliot9654
@johnelliot9654 5 жыл бұрын
While good practice to fly a power off approach for those special airport where it may be needed, it’s actually safer to fly a 3 degree controlled path with power. Having full control of all the energy axis on a 3 degree path is always safer. If you are considering an engine failure as a real probable threat, then maybe the flight should not take off. Fatal engine failure accidents are a rare event. Usually your engine lets you know in advance that it shouldn’t be flown....
@milanaero
@milanaero 4 жыл бұрын
And what about cooling the engine too much after you chop the power? Isn't that affecting the longevity of it?
@carlosjrbatista7021
@carlosjrbatista7021 5 жыл бұрын
Pre-stol perform!! Amazing approach! Calm, relax and focus at the airplane limits speed!
@94nolo
@94nolo 6 жыл бұрын
Holy cow, pilots worth watching. Making me want to be a pilot.
@FriendlySkiesFilm
@FriendlySkiesFilm 7 жыл бұрын
I had more fun footage of pancakes and Aviation movie trivia that I wanted to include, but I lost it somehow! So sorry :(
@ericschultz8651
@ericschultz8651 6 жыл бұрын
Get it next year, keep up the great videos .
@ellenorbjornsdottir1166
@ellenorbjornsdottir1166 6 жыл бұрын
Have you ever flown a plane with a Diesel engine or an engine certified for unleaded? If so, is it an experience you'd repeat?
@ChrisJones-yt8zp
@ChrisJones-yt8zp 6 жыл бұрын
That was so beautiful I shed a tear.
@alwonner
@alwonner 7 жыл бұрын
Good day. Nice video as usual. You look like twins brothers! At least you are brothers in flights! Always something to learn watching you. Thank you. Alex
@FriendlySkiesFilm
@FriendlySkiesFilm 7 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed, mate! :)
@MaxDolittle
@MaxDolittle 5 жыл бұрын
Brings back memories from my flying days out of Charlottetown PEI YYG
@_skyyskater
@_skyyskater 6 жыл бұрын
Been there for pancakes several times (in a Citabria, though)! I recognized the silver 170 haha. That's a tight landing for a 172, well done!
@fijician6307
@fijician6307 6 жыл бұрын
Youre visual aids are incredibly professional. Helps me out a lot thanks!
@FriendlySkiesFilm
@FriendlySkiesFilm 6 жыл бұрын
Glad we could help :)
@averagejoepilot6201
@averagejoepilot6201 7 жыл бұрын
Great job on the editing! Awesome short feild landing...
@FriendlySkiesFilm
@FriendlySkiesFilm 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks, mate :)
@FlightSim2703
@FlightSim2703 6 жыл бұрын
Owned a Cessna 172 few years ago, I sold it because flying become to me too boring every weekend drive from orange county to Chino airport for few hours fly all by my self,friends afraid to join each time I asked them to join :) until sky become too boring to me, I wish I had a brother like you guys both involved in activities. Awesome guys enjoy and fly safe, thumbs up.
@FriendlySkiesFilm
@FriendlySkiesFilm 6 жыл бұрын
That's what I hear from so many. If there's no friends, and no community, then what's the point. Rock on, friend, wherever life takes you :)
@storiesfromthedepthsofspac6413
@storiesfromthedepthsofspac6413 Ай бұрын
Boring hell, I don’t even put my right seat in my 150. More room for fishing poles, camping gear, an metal detectors. People are heavy and annoying.
@swankiey
@swankiey 6 жыл бұрын
Loved this, keep them coming...
@engineeringoyster6243
@engineeringoyster6243 Жыл бұрын
Don’t ever focus excessively on a smooth touchdown. Far more important to do as you did to have the airplane on speed, on centerline, on glide slope and stabilized.
@rodrigobarbosa6610
@rodrigobarbosa6610 7 жыл бұрын
Wow nice! Just learned a new technique to land.
@FriendlySkiesFilm
@FriendlySkiesFilm 7 жыл бұрын
Yay :)
@Georgewrigley
@Georgewrigley 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome footage guys and very interesting. Cheers :)
@waynejones3428
@waynejones3428 5 жыл бұрын
The good old days,nice vid ✈
@TyzaGFPV
@TyzaGFPV 6 жыл бұрын
That approach was mint, dude!!
@proprotornut5389
@proprotornut5389 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Thanks guys😀
@FriendlySkiesFilm
@FriendlySkiesFilm 6 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed :)
@teddyzdrummer
@teddyzdrummer 7 жыл бұрын
Cranland is a nice little strip in Halifax....flew in and out of there a few time for Sunday pancakes 👍 nice job.
@Naive773
@Naive773 4 жыл бұрын
I like the Motion Tracker from Alien in the intro
@LOWEFERRARI
@LOWEFERRARI 7 жыл бұрын
finally a nice video guys...great job.
@FriendlySkiesFilm
@FriendlySkiesFilm 7 жыл бұрын
As opposed to the other ones??
@gasmith74
@gasmith74 7 жыл бұрын
The paint job on this plane was the exact paint job on the 172 I did all of my training in until it was recently painted. So a good memory revived.
@FriendlySkiesFilm
@FriendlySkiesFilm 7 жыл бұрын
Aw, glad you had good memories of your training :)
@giselavanzyl7295
@giselavanzyl7295 7 жыл бұрын
Little low but spot on the numbers😁 A great landing starts with flying the numbers once you join the circuit. Nice going there.
@FriendlySkiesFilm
@FriendlySkiesFilm 7 жыл бұрын
Can be as low as you want, as long as you've got the energy ;)
@midnitemonty
@midnitemonty 7 жыл бұрын
Nice ! I want to try Cranland one of these days.. I like how you pulled the flaps up to give some extra planting force.
@FriendlySkiesFilm
@FriendlySkiesFilm 7 жыл бұрын
Tricks of the bush pilot trade :)
@GreenFillwood
@GreenFillwood 7 жыл бұрын
Bush aircraft undecarriage can take being thrown onto the ground
@FriendlySkiesFilm
@FriendlySkiesFilm 7 жыл бұрын
The things I've seen done to this poor Cessna! Haha
@outwiththem
@outwiththem 6 жыл бұрын
He didnt do that. So what is your point.
@tomrisar5492
@tomrisar5492 6 жыл бұрын
Yes he did, another well made video using SAFE procedures and camera's ignored during things that require full attention. Many aviation video's seem to include some high action that might cause a fowl if they don't tone it down.
@jackhalper4343
@jackhalper4343 7 жыл бұрын
Good Landings! Thanks for providing some tips for a low time pilot!
@FriendlySkiesFilm
@FriendlySkiesFilm 7 жыл бұрын
That's what we're here for :)
@Wpilot673
@Wpilot673 4 жыл бұрын
Nicely done
@farmgene
@farmgene 7 жыл бұрын
Love the videos!
@FriendlySkiesFilm
@FriendlySkiesFilm 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks, mate :)
@nexamis9507
@nexamis9507 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome video!
@FriendlySkiesFilm
@FriendlySkiesFilm 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks, old friend :)
@12gabrowning
@12gabrowning 7 жыл бұрын
Very good flying, gentlemen. The keyboard pilots can always find details they would do differently, but then you could to. Enjoy, and be safe!
@FriendlySkiesFilm
@FriendlySkiesFilm 7 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed, and thanks for the great attitude :)
@FelipeArtista
@FelipeArtista 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, I agree. I particularly liked their situational awareness, paying attention to the radio and creating a mental image of where traffic is. The approach was low, but the airspeed was high, so even if the engine had quit they were within gliding range.
@johns9694
@johns9694 6 жыл бұрын
I just discovered this video now. I was there that day and landed just prior to your arrival. It was a great day of flying! Nick, if I had seen you I would have said hello. That is my silver RV 7 with the black nose parked on the opposite side of the runway from where you parked. Nice video to remember the day with! Keep up the great work!
@FriendlySkiesFilm
@FriendlySkiesFilm 6 жыл бұрын
Hi friend! I think I've actually seen that RV around before. Where are you based?
@johns9694
@johns9694 6 жыл бұрын
Friendly Skies Film I am based in Plymouth. I do get around pretty good as do you!
@jamesfunnell7075
@jamesfunnell7075 7 жыл бұрын
Glad to be back to the real flying after the ridiculous number of comments about X-Plane vs FSX in the last video! Love these videos.
@FriendlySkiesFilm
@FriendlySkiesFilm 7 жыл бұрын
Glad you're enjoying :)
@AirplaneFreak1000
@AirplaneFreak1000 7 жыл бұрын
i was gonna type notification squad but i got carried away watching the video ...MAN THAT WAS SOME TRAFFIC....nAILED IT ON THE approach lol
@FriendlySkiesFilm
@FriendlySkiesFilm 7 жыл бұрын
Hey buddy! Glad you enjoyed it :)
@dronespace
@dronespace 3 жыл бұрын
Great video
@musoseven8218
@musoseven8218 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Showed lots of real world scenarios and an insight into the pilots' thoughts and the RT etc. A busy fly-in on a small strip can be challenging. As an onlooker, could that finals have been flown higher then a side slip in to bleed off height and energy? The landing looked safe and the approach grass looked free from obstructions and almost landable - I'm trying to visualize a side slip type approach though.
@borzica
@borzica Жыл бұрын
Awesome landing btw
@coleweaver7286
@coleweaver7286 6 жыл бұрын
"Chem trails are just my sneezes" hahaha
@nazasha5584
@nazasha5584 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@andrem7th
@andrem7th Жыл бұрын
holy molly, thats a short runway. good job!
@drpradeepkumar58
@drpradeepkumar58 6 жыл бұрын
Nice Video
@bennettt4404
@bennettt4404 6 жыл бұрын
I always retract the flaps right after touchdown. That said, I was flying with my friend the other day who is a CFI, came in a bit hot into my round out and he said "Check this"... then proceeded to pull my flaps up... learn something new everyday!
@ericgirardet1848
@ericgirardet1848 6 жыл бұрын
Nice video! Greetings from Switzerland!
@FriendlySkiesFilm
@FriendlySkiesFilm 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Switzerland! :D
@computer5272
@computer5272 7 жыл бұрын
In this video Mr. Friendly and his twin brother discover the wonders of the exotic *high wing* airplane known as the Cessna 172. They didn't seem to mind not being able to see the runway on their downwind to base turn, at least the fuel is easier to manage.
@FriendlySkiesFilm
@FriendlySkiesFilm 7 жыл бұрын
I love your comments sooooo much!! XD
@erikhendrych190
@erikhendrych190 7 жыл бұрын
Every time I see "Friendly Skies" it reminds me of that passengerwho was forcefully removed from United Airlines flight.
@writepilot777
@writepilot777 7 жыл бұрын
With respect for all opinions and on behalf of a lot of hardworking professionals: that was neither a United plane nor a United crew, nor were there any United ground employees involved -- except maybe the "ivory tower" folks who elected to outsource. Same with the "leggings" episode.
@erikhendrych190
@erikhendrych190 7 жыл бұрын
I know, I know, I just can't get rid of the association. Nothing against this chanel.
@writepilot777
@writepilot777 7 жыл бұрын
Right. Unfortunate, but thanks at least for realizing. (I'm not commenting on behalf of the channel. I'm just a retired United pilot.)
@JamesHewitt1399
@JamesHewitt1399 6 жыл бұрын
The checklist on my knee is mixture master key. Just great ahahaha
@FriendlySkiesFilm
@FriendlySkiesFilm 6 жыл бұрын
Love our chief instructor :)
@vayandas
@vayandas 7 жыл бұрын
thats a nice approach
@FriendlySkiesFilm
@FriendlySkiesFilm 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, buddy!
@alfaranha
@alfaranha 6 жыл бұрын
I’ve always landed Cessna 172 at 60MPH, preferably with full flaps and on a high angle glide slope. It’s awesome!
@talkingbob
@talkingbob 7 жыл бұрын
I fly a Skyhawk II as well. When I do a short-field landing like in the video, I find the airplane bounces. That was interesting how the pilot retracted the flaps as he was touching down. I was never taught that. Also, you guys have the same glasses!
@GeorgeCharlesAllen
@GeorgeCharlesAllen 7 жыл бұрын
It's not something that would be taught to students.
@feetgoaroundfullflapsC
@feetgoaroundfullflapsC 4 жыл бұрын
@@GeorgeCharlesAllen - I did to mine. From year 1990 on I did. It is a great trick to avoid low go arounds and tire damage due too fast on runway and braking with flaps. Those are 2 too common pilot errors that can be corrected by cutting the flaps on the flare.
@SayTrueSteve
@SayTrueSteve 6 жыл бұрын
great vid!
@petermelillo6524
@petermelillo6524 7 жыл бұрын
Nice video, thanks for the advanced look at the airport. We are going to drop in there one of these days. Also thinking of purchasing the headset your buddy is using, any feed back on those?...thanks!
@FriendlySkiesFilm
@FriendlySkiesFilm 7 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help :) I think he enjoys them very much.
@jameshanson2097
@jameshanson2097 7 жыл бұрын
I've never seen a twin 172! :) Great vid, thank you. I've also never seen or heard about taking out the flaps at the flare - maybe a bush technique? Certainly very advanced, and in that case not "textbook." But taking the flaps off during roll-out to increase the contact between the wheels and the runway (and thus braking effectiveness) is textbook.
@FriendlySkiesFilm
@FriendlySkiesFilm 7 жыл бұрын
Yep, taught at our school by bush legend, CC Pocock. Good on you for knowing the second technique too, though! That's actually in many POH's, which surprised me.
@tjpandell63
@tjpandell63 Жыл бұрын
Nice David Clamps 🫤🫤🥴
@dougfairweather
@dougfairweather 7 жыл бұрын
I thought there would be a bit of controversy about this video (among pilots anyway) Great vid, thanks... Nice landing... I always use 2 stages of flap... but 1 stage is a bit of a quicker approach considering the traffic, I guess :-) Thanks for putting it up... All people have their own style... It's in some ways up to you to develop one that you like and is ultimately safe for the situation.
@FriendlySkiesFilm
@FriendlySkiesFilm 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for being probably the most considerate and level-headed commenter I've seen on the channel in ages! :)
@VicsYard
@VicsYard 7 жыл бұрын
That landing was nice.
@FriendlySkiesFilm
@FriendlySkiesFilm 7 жыл бұрын
Thought so too ;)
@RobertKaydoo
@RobertKaydoo 6 жыл бұрын
Love the air freshener swinging in the back.
@FriendlySkiesFilm
@FriendlySkiesFilm 6 жыл бұрын
Lol
@aurangzebahsan1
@aurangzebahsan1 6 жыл бұрын
Hi mate, very nice video. Can you please tell me how you have overlay an airspeed gauge in to your video at 7:57min. please commment
@FriendlySkiesFilm
@FriendlySkiesFilm 6 жыл бұрын
All done from scratch in Adobe After Effects :)
@dv_vid
@dv_vid 5 жыл бұрын
Awesomely geeky!
@MarceloCabane
@MarceloCabane 7 жыл бұрын
Nice video, excellent traffic management, and an interesting technique. Not quite a textbook or at least the ones I use :) Looked too much of 4 solid reds for me.
@FriendlySkiesFilm
@FriendlySkiesFilm 7 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed :) Doesn't really matter how low you are as long as you have the energy to spare, as I see it, though.
@MarceloCabane
@MarceloCabane 7 жыл бұрын
Agree, but that's not the typical CFI FAA textbook :) good flying skills for sure!
@tsulmer
@tsulmer 6 жыл бұрын
too low makes for a larger circuit and slows the circuit down. Ok for practicing different techniques, but please don't call it textbook....
@jimfoley3350
@jimfoley3350 4 жыл бұрын
There are as many opinions here as there are pilots, as always! My two cents on most of the comments: 1) flaps up in the flare- Cessna's electric flaps take their time to retract (I much preferred the old manual ones.) So, on a short field- they will have more effective wheel braking sooner, and in the event of a go around the flaps will be closer to the desired position. So Although I don't think I've ever done it, I wouldn't criticize it. 2) Engine failure- this engine got them all the way through the flight. Unless fuel or carb ice, it's not likely to quit on final. If it does- best glide and land in the grass before the threshold. Obstacles before the threshold? Clear them and slip it in. Nice video guys.
@coreyg.1460
@coreyg.1460 6 жыл бұрын
should be noted this is an advanced landing technique, by reaching down to pull the flap lever up student pilots are more adapt to loose control of the airplane and possibly, if flying a complex plane pull the gear up. That's why most instructors will teach not to touch anything until landed and off the runway. However this should be demonstrated b/c in a tight spot or a forced landing situation this could get you down, in, and on the brakes ASAP instead of floating down the field. Could be the difference between making it or rolling into the trees/fence
@feetgoaroundfullflapsC
@feetgoaroundfullflapsC 5 жыл бұрын
If you confuse switches, you should not be a pilot. Flying Turkeys making those stupid pilot errors is what gives USA general aviation such a bad name.
@jibeneyto91
@jibeneyto91 7 жыл бұрын
Very nice approach and landing, but please explain me, why would you touch the flaps during the flare?
@JarenMorris_UnderHover
@JarenMorris_UnderHover 7 жыл бұрын
read the prior comments and you might be surprised to find your question has been covered multiple times....
@hudsonriver3188
@hudsonriver3188 7 жыл бұрын
Great Video - was surprised at the moment of touchdown how much stress is put on the landing gear legs.
@FriendlySkiesFilm
@FriendlySkiesFilm 7 жыл бұрын
And that wasn't even a hard landing! Those Cessnas take a beating.
@NETBotic
@NETBotic 7 жыл бұрын
looks like a fun place!
@FriendlySkiesFilm
@FriendlySkiesFilm 7 жыл бұрын
Confirmed! :)
@simcptmike
@simcptmike 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Did you land harder than expected because you pulled flaps in your flare?
@captainicelander3898
@captainicelander3898 3 жыл бұрын
Would be cool to know what airfield that is? Awsome vid fellows!
@airmackeeee6792
@airmackeeee6792 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Nick nice vid mate! I reckon you could re-upload this vid, unedited, as a demonstration of the need for precise & constant communication when operating in a busy uncontrolled airfield scenario. Watcha reckon mate?
@FriendlySkiesFilm
@FriendlySkiesFilm 7 жыл бұрын
I think I left 95% of everyone's calls in there. What did you think was missing?
@marsgal42
@marsgal42 6 жыл бұрын
When I did a checkout in a 172P I was taught to trim for 65 knots with flaps 20 on base when setting up for a short or soft landing. Flaps 30 on final, trim, the plane settles down to 61 knots. Doesn't take much runway to stop at that speed...
@feetgoaroundfullflapsC
@feetgoaroundfullflapsC 4 жыл бұрын
Not on a 1,700 feet runway.
@joecarpenter4522
@joecarpenter4522 7 жыл бұрын
George, I watched your [other] short field landing video. So... what was your headwind component and how heavy were you? ;)Hey, mad props for the postage stamp landing but why didn't you use a similar method when you landed at the other runway (that I squawked about)? I will mildly concur that had you had to go around, it likely would have been a non event, but probably due in large part that [when you retracted the flaps] you were in ground effect, in a light high wing airplane. Fair enough? Safe flying and I'll definitely do the same!
@GeorgeCharlesAllen
@GeorgeCharlesAllen 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks :) Flying is an art, it's fluid. Why not try different things? I had no control over this video being titled, and honestly never thought it was going to be called what it was called, or presented the way it was for the whole world to critique. I figured it would just be a video about two guys flying in for breakfast. It just happens to be what I decided to do for that particular day just for the hell of it. Would I land there the same way every time? No. I'm not a robot. I just did it to see what would happen. We later landed at Myricks, a short field grass strip, (not recorded) and I used a totally different technique.
@robrichards3847
@robrichards3847 7 жыл бұрын
Base to final took you right over my house. I have been meaning to get over there for the pancakes.
@FriendlySkiesFilm
@FriendlySkiesFilm 7 жыл бұрын
Haha, hey buddy! :)
@codykelley7081
@codykelley7081 6 жыл бұрын
I've flown into Cranland multiple times as well as being the CAP on the ground. Pilots that fly in are usually regulars who ignore CAP directions and just park where they want. In some cases, pilots just sit on the runway until we give them directions. Its a hectic place where people fly right patterns and dont use comms.
@FriendlySkiesFilm
@FriendlySkiesFilm 6 жыл бұрын
That's certainly the impression that I got, but lovely community for sure :)
@cabdolla
@cabdolla 7 жыл бұрын
Personally I would have been doing a slip and steep descent with full flaps to clear those trees and come down steep. You seem to be going low which makes you fly longer in turbulence being shed off those trees. Sometimes the camera makes the glide slope seem different than in real life though. You made it safe so nice job.
@FriendlySkiesFilm
@FriendlySkiesFilm 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks, mate. Two different styles, I think. Next time I'm there I'll give yours a shot :)
@cabdolla
@cabdolla 7 жыл бұрын
With the slip, you can be power off and come down like an elevator. With your approach, you seem to be flying that final approach with power in, which I personally dont like having switched to gliders. I never want to be on final where I cant land without power at idle the whole time. I prefer to fly at flight idle in a powered plane after I am on downwind and abeam the numbers. That means keeping it tight and bank angles of 45 degrees.
@FriendlySkiesFilm
@FriendlySkiesFilm 7 жыл бұрын
Power was out long before the trees to get that decent rate, but the second you mentioned being a sailplane pilot, I knew that would be your preference ;)
@cabdolla
@cabdolla 7 жыл бұрын
Friendly Skies Film ah ok, great! From the cockpit I saw his hand on the throttle and thought he has 1/4 throttle in. My apologies ! I've done slips to full rudder lock in the 172 on descent, it comes down quite well and still has good control authority. Give it a shot of power when you take the slip out and flare it will arrest the high descent rate and you'll have a light touchdown since you don't have a long runway to play with.
@beepIL
@beepIL 6 жыл бұрын
Nice bush trick, sending you to susi airlines right away ;)
@lilflyboy262
@lilflyboy262 6 жыл бұрын
Please, susi go into all the easy runways ;) I'm not claiming any of the credit though, I never got a shot at the proper tough stuff!
@RobertMcNamara3DMc
@RobertMcNamara3DMc 4 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed that.
@neskyz4259
@neskyz4259 6 жыл бұрын
NIce approach, nice work in the pattern with all that other traffic. You can't talk enough with that many planes flying around. Looking forward to someday coming up from Hartford to fly with you guys! Know a good breakfast fly in location?
@callumtaggart9392
@callumtaggart9392 6 жыл бұрын
Actually you can talk too much... in which case you miss other traffic making important calls on their location/intentions. Concise and clear calls are safe
@neskyz4259
@neskyz4259 6 жыл бұрын
Callum Taggart. I knew I was setting myself up for someone to make a comment. My comment was meant to imply that you need to effectively and efficiently communicate OFTEN when in a busy pattern.
@callumtaggart9392
@callumtaggart9392 6 жыл бұрын
Here in Australia our AIP states when radio calls should be made and the format for standard phrasology. As the guys said in the video at incertified aerodromes radio carriage is not mandatory so it really is see and avoid.... Another point I wanna bring up is how casual and laid back flying seems to be in the US. Over here in aus its draconian all in the name of "safety". However accident rates over here are higher per capita... maybe its because we do less time hands on in the air and more time with our heads down in the books and regulation... Safe Skies!!!
@charliepapanovember6370
@charliepapanovember6370 7 жыл бұрын
Hi!! Great video and shortfield landing What camera are you using or how do you get the digital airspeed indicator in the video? I think its a great way to review your landings. Thanks
@FriendlySkiesFilm
@FriendlySkiesFilm 7 жыл бұрын
All GoPros, and all done from scratch in Adobe After Effects.
@michaelasavino
@michaelasavino 6 жыл бұрын
"The Civil Air Patrol will tell you where to POK". Oh how I miss my Worcester days!!
@feetgoaroundfullflapsC
@feetgoaroundfullflapsC 4 жыл бұрын
To Pock The Cahh!!
@emergencylowmaneuvering7350
@emergencylowmaneuvering7350 2 жыл бұрын
The cutting flaps in the flare trick. I learned it in 1996.
@horacesawyer2487
@horacesawyer2487 7 жыл бұрын
Not bad, but me, I'm always in a HURRY to get to them PANDCAKES, so I just stall it about midfield and drop in. It's a little rough on the gear, but it's worth getting in line quicker.
@GeorgeCharlesAllen
@GeorgeCharlesAllen 7 жыл бұрын
:)
@FriendlySkiesFilm
@FriendlySkiesFilm 7 жыл бұрын
Hehe. Now this is a comment I can get behind!
@farsproductions3749
@farsproductions3749 4 жыл бұрын
Lol that’s the way to do it.
@runsky-lecieldelareunion344
@runsky-lecieldelareunion344 7 жыл бұрын
Great vid ! How did you put the airspeed in the final ? Did you filmed it ?
@FriendlySkiesFilm
@FriendlySkiesFilm 7 жыл бұрын
Done from scratch in Adobe After Effects CS5.5 :)
@AmericaVoice
@AmericaVoice 7 жыл бұрын
Damn that's a lot of traffic for such a small strip!
@FriendlySkiesFilm
@FriendlySkiesFilm 7 жыл бұрын
My pancakes bring all the boys to the yard.
@zacharybyers
@zacharybyers 6 жыл бұрын
Just a suggestion. If you really want to land a 172 short, leave the flaps in. You may have more float if you're fast but its almost like having a parachute on your airplane once you're fully stalled. Those electric flaps don't come up like the flaps on a carbon cub
@feetgoaroundfullflapsC
@feetgoaroundfullflapsC 4 жыл бұрын
Ok, leave the flaps in. That means leave the flaps retracted. Dummy..
@rickvia8435
@rickvia8435 6 жыл бұрын
Cool as hell, from an old soloed student
@stevedaly730
@stevedaly730 4 жыл бұрын
Sometimes you don't need to be in the bush to encounter a difficult landing and take off. There lots of short runways found in private airports built in cities all over America. There's one not far from the airport I fly out of. It's got an 1600 foot runway but it's got obstructions at both ends of the main north south runway. A vets office with telephone wires on the North end and the south large trees planted on the 8th hole of a golf course. Landing doesn't cause me much problem but the take offs leave no room for error. Flaps down one notch, stand on the brakes bring it to full power then pop the brakes. Don't pull to early and careful not to panic. Your gonna just learn those obstacles.
@Robfromnorfolk
@Robfromnorfolk 6 жыл бұрын
Nice video, thank you. On screen that didn't look a particularly short strip. What length was it?
@FriendlySkiesFilm
@FriendlySkiesFilm 6 жыл бұрын
1700ft, I believe.
@AshleyWincer
@AshleyWincer 7 жыл бұрын
How did you get overlay video footage of the ASI as you were coming in to land?? It was well done..
@FriendlySkiesFilm
@FriendlySkiesFilm 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you! It's all done from scratch in Adobe After Effects.
@AshleyWincer
@AshleyWincer 6 жыл бұрын
Ok cool. It is very effective..
@r3poman671
@r3poman671 7 жыл бұрын
And here I am struggling with the short feild landings in my training. Curious as to why he retracted the flaps before touchdown as I've been taught to retract them after touchdown to increase aerodynamic braking.
@georgecharlesallen1519
@georgecharlesallen1519 7 жыл бұрын
It's just a difference in technique. Retracting the flaps while in the flare helps reduce lift / float in ground effect and helps sink the aircraft onto the ground and transfer weight to the wheels once down. Not recommended for check rides, but works well in real life once you get the coordination down. It's all based on timing, judgment, and feel.
@r3poman671
@r3poman671 7 жыл бұрын
George Charles Allen Ahh cool, thanks man. Appreciate the input!
@outwiththem
@outwiththem 3 жыл бұрын
@@georgecharlesallen1519 I have used it on check rides. On CFI checkrides. They like it..
@smirnoff1589
@smirnoff1589 6 жыл бұрын
Solid approach man! I fly at KLNA in West Balm Beach, FL, and it too, like Cranland, is an uncontrolled field, and it turns into a zoo on the weekends! Glad I found your channel, look forward to more videos. PS - My favorite part, "Piper **such and such** holding short on the active" -_____- .......why? hahaha
@FriendlySkiesFilm
@FriendlySkiesFilm 6 жыл бұрын
haha LNA, huh!? You seen this one yet? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rLeSZqdj1dmXeXk.html
@smirnoff1589
@smirnoff1589 6 жыл бұрын
Friendly Skies Film not even joking, I may have been flying that day lol. So you know as well as I do about the madness that is lantana traffic!
@FriendlySkiesFilm
@FriendlySkiesFilm 6 жыл бұрын
Pretty crazy, but it may be my home very soon! Can't wait to become a Floridian. What are you flying down there?
@smirnoff1589
@smirnoff1589 6 жыл бұрын
Usually I'm in 7273Mike it's a C172R with a 160HP. FLorida is a great place to fly! Not this weekend of course...
@TPACFILMS
@TPACFILMS 7 жыл бұрын
We just took a cessna to Chicago and flew around the city
@johnorr7386
@johnorr7386 6 жыл бұрын
Nicely done but I hope you don't fly retractables because retracting the flaps on landing roll (or during the flare) has caused many a good pilot to land wheels up! Nice to see you have your Christmas decorations up early. I see the tree hanging in front of the rear window. Keep on enjoying your flying. I flew for 30 years but unfortunately there were no GoPro cameras in my time.
@_S_Aydin_
@_S_Aydin_ 7 жыл бұрын
bless you "1:32" your vids are great wanna do same in the future... we will se :-) cheers..
@FriendlySkiesFilm
@FriendlySkiesFilm 7 жыл бұрын
Good luck, man!
@Falkano
@Falkano 6 жыл бұрын
S Aydin did i hear that right, that he said "gesundheit" in the video? I always thought "kindergarten" would be the only word americans adapted from the german language 🤔
@feetgoaroundfullflapsC
@feetgoaroundfullflapsC 5 жыл бұрын
Sometimes you are aiming to touch down on a precise spot, you keep the speed perfect but say at 100 feet agl a sudden shift of wind or a thermal from ground makes your approach flatter and now you are going to over shoot the spot. You can slip the airplane but it is very difficult to do it perfect at 100 feet. You can use the cutting flaps on flare trick. It is a talented pilot trick. Maggots cant do that.
@aviatortrevor
@aviatortrevor 7 жыл бұрын
What software do you use to create the animated airspeed gauge?
@FriendlySkiesFilm
@FriendlySkiesFilm 7 жыл бұрын
Adobe After Effects CS5.5
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