Exactly my thought, he's does a great job!

And historian

I just wish he hadnt delayed playing the modern piano after playing the "Mozart era" piano. Comparing the two a-b, a-b, works best when you play them back to back, not a and then five minutes later, b.

aber00all Good point 4:28 6:41

Every engineer is a artist but not a musician

Damn

when he sat down and started playing that steinway the first thing i though was "damn, the greatest composers will never hear that"

Wait, Beethoveen died??

+Alec Driscoll Do you know which Piano Beethoveen had? I really wanna see the model he uses

He had been dead for about 200 years

Love that he never sounded flat, or bored. INTEREST in the subject makes a presenter much more interesting to listen to also!

I laughed more than I should at that 😂

Of course they will, as anyone who has ever watched a Warner Brothers cartoon can attest. And do you know what sound they make if you drop one into a coal mine? A flat "miner." (Sorry. Couldn't help it.)

@@stevejordan7275 Do you know the sound a banjo makes when you toss it in a dumpster? The best sound in the world.

How does a piano implode🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@@zechariahhye926 let's hope we never find out lmao

He looks like a nice guy. You get a good feeling about him even just watching the video. He seems like a highly intelligent, but thoughtful person who is passionate about these instruments. And those hands! They look so graceful and he touches each instrument with respect and care.

I read your comment in his voice he seems like a nice guy

Chopin's pianos were quite different than modern pianos, the dynamic range wasn't as great as the Steinway and the sound was warmer

Mozart party animal🤗😋

No all of you are, wrong, Mozart is wealthy back then which is why, his songs are happy, but Chopin lived in a revolutionary period which triggered his emotions to write music

@@michaeljohndadd545 Chopin lived with a Patreon, Wolfgang did not.

@@mrkitty777 true but he would not compose revolutionary pieces if there waa no revolutionary war

@dbltrplx Really? He gives us all this great information and that's all you can say? Ingrate.

Agree. I also have no problem listening to him as I have with some other people on this channel. They got some accent that makes it harder to detect what they say. I'm not English speaker so clear pronunciation is precious to me. My ears can't decode muffled sounds of some people's speech as native speakers do. Though I believe that sometimes they got same trouble as well.

ALL history should be taught this interestingly by a guy this interesting. Then maybe we Americans would not be so habitually REPEATING it.

Skilled musician, skilled communicator.

What a huge difference. They sound so different.

Thank you for doing this. I really enjoyed that video but by the time the professor got to the piano, I already forgot the sound of the fortepiano.

The Steinway piano is horrifying, it is all I ever heard growing up and in church and it is so muffled and lacking clarity I fear it might’ve stifled my IQ level.

You trade a layered distinct quality for lushness and depth. Would be great to make an instrument that combined the two somehow. I did enjoy the Mozart better on the clav.

the fortepiano sounds so much cooler! Super funky. The modern piano tone is too sleepy.

I think thats because classical composers like mozart were much closer to composers like bach who used the harpsichord so they were more influenced by boroque style which was all about precision, and counterpoint, not dynamics and warmth which is more of a romantic thing for expressing emotion. I dont really know tho.... just my hypothesis.

I prefer the old one. It's clearer, cleaner and more joyful. That's my kind of instrument.

Yeah. For me, as a tailor, the difference in hearing is the old piano sounds like taffeta and the Steinway sounds like satin. I enjoy both.

I agree. The older 58 key piano has better definition and character. The Steinway just sounds very mono now.

What do you mean by "clarity." I didn't hear more clarity from the older piano. I heard about the same clarity from each. I didn't perceive a lot of warmth from the big Steinway. I thought the tone of the older piano had more warmth. The Steinway's tone was rather aggressive, strident. What is warmth though? I actually like the tone on the older piano, the one that didn't have 500 pounds of cast iron making sure that the 20 tons of tension from the strings didn't make the device flex, bend like the wooden device used to send arrows on their way. I think with the older piano, the tone dropped off more gradually. A note on the Steinway dropped off rather suddenly, dropped off quite soon after the string was struck, to a point, got rather low, and then dropped off slowly. The old piano dropped off more evenly. By the way "piano" is an abbreviation for clavichord con piano e forte. That is, clavichord with the ability to speak both softly and loudly. Meaning that the original clavichord, no matter how hard you struck the key, it produced the same loudness (not very loud). The improved clavichord had the ability to play loud as well as soft, and the Steinway, supposedly the most improved, had the ability to play just as soft, but also rather louder. But not 7 times as loud even though it weights maybe 7 times as much. That is a monstrously large piece of cast iron it has inside. Incidentally, if I recall correctly, between the old piano and the steinway were intermediate pianos which had several smaller pieces of cast iron instead of one, large casting - for which the technology to make had not arrived yet.

Three years late, but it still exists in some uprights as a "so neighbours won't kill you for practicing at night" option. It really gives a different tone, mine sounds a lot like an electric piano's bass in the second octave. It's really fun to play around with.

Fazioli has the felt

I really like the felt sound

Thank you! A bit too much talking between those two demonstrations in the video (all good info, just sorry it came between the two demonstrations...)

Song?

Yes by the time he stopped talking I forgot what the older piano sounded like.

@Dugunthi Does anyone know from whom the intro is?

Thanks

What does this moderator do exactly? I didn't get it

Mine does, it's a layer of felt introduced between the hammers and the strings. I say modern, it's over 100 yo, and I love it.

Mine does and it was built in the 1910’s.

@@Wolfganger Is it an upright???

The problem with the quotation is that there isn't any real reason not to restore an old oil painting with acrylic paint.

@@olensoifer9901 there are several

@@ThiloAbend actually they would use a paint that dosen't blend with the original paint in case they mess something up and need to use solvent to clean it off

Miki Osep Bach himself in the harpsichord? lol

I play harpsichord as a continuo instrument, but sacrilege or no, I prefer the solo music to be played on the piano.

Ahahahahahahahahaha

i agree, very harmonious

Its Ten years now :) and still the same

very nice!

@@matteomagurno3068 There are 108 Key Pianos

I used to want one too. Something so graceful about it.

The sound of it is beauty beyond compare.

Contact David, he was the harpsichordist (with his own instrument) for our Restoration Comedy Play) www.dylansauerwald.com/bio-encore/

I've never been a big fan of its timbre. To each their own, though.

Lots of maintenance required. Tuning, regulating (evening the action), watching swings in humidity. Have fun, though.

what piece was that? please help me

Elikem Seake-Kwawu Sonata no 10, 2nd movement

Yes!! Something is lost. The modern pianos are "neutral" instruments, that is what he already says, that the sound tone color does not vary. So even if it's a more beautiful sound it lost power.

I would disagree that it lost power though, I mean the piano sounds way more powerful. Both sounds beautiful to me, just very different characters! :)

Xyla A I agree it had a brighter sound.

IKR sounds beuatiful

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Yesss!!!!

I know! It's like something's lost somehow. I do love the modern piano though...

+Xyla A Isnt it like a normal Guitar sound?

Its vibrations definitely add some texture

It really doesn't. The modern piano is far more expressive. Not everything older is better.

The modern piano seems to me a very industrial product whereas the older version is more organic and sensitive. My favorite is the harpsichord with it's clarity - great for Bach!

I agree, he is a very good teacher and is easy to understand!:)

Yeah same ... :)

Beautifully said ❤

How is it underrated? It is the most studied instrument in the world, the instrument for which most compositions are written, and the most widespread instrument.

The FortePiano is Piano. It is just the old Piano, It is not a different instrument.

Me too it would be nice to get our hands on the old piano, it sounds like heaven! :)

smalin, I felt the same way. Luckily, these new-fangled videe-oes have a progress bar that you can slide back.

i think some upright pianos have a middle pedal with this effect

Agree :)

Wich sonata is it?

Mozart - Piano Sonata No.10 in C Major, K330@@_alexcr

I disagree. After a few months on an electric piano I missed my real one, so the electric piano with all its fancy voices and tricks now gathers dust.

My piano teacher had a pump organ which she sometimes allowed me to play. I like playing it, even though I had to constantly pump the foot pedals to power it, because it had such beautiful sound.

What a bunch of CRAP! The old masters ALREADY left us so many MASTERPIECES without using a modern piano FCOL Try to think out-of-the-box!

I think the best music is written because of the constraints. They try to get every bit out of the instrument whereas a modern piano might make them miss the big picture. If that makes sense... Also the modern piano might have more notes and a way to play both hard and soft, it has less options because of the intonation as shown in the video. I'm quite glad the old masters used the instruments they did.

Or synthesizers, or composition softwares... ;D

Nah, that sounds bad.

Modern pianos also have constraints. It's just the desired strengths and constraints which have changed over the centuries.

Same situation :)

Yup, was thinking just that!

I agree as well.

Yes. It really brings the sound of it forward.

He wrote for the texture he had and it shows. Original/authentic instrumental performance of early music often sounds better than modern because the music suits the instruments. If you ever get a chance to listen to the Mozart Symphonies performed by Christopher Hogwood and the Academy of Ancient Music, I’d suggest it - I think they sound better than modern orchestra for the same reason you like the fortepiano. But I find that phenomenon stops at Mozart. Beethoven wrote so big he usually sounds better on modern orchestras and modern pianos. The modern piano sustain sings better for slow passages like the first movement of the Moonlight or the middle movement of the Pathetique. What I find interesting about experimenting with Beethoven on a fortepiano is that his big stuff goes from sounding dramatic on a modern piano to sounding melodramatic on a fortepiano. The drama on the older instrument almost resembles silent movie music - you get more drama by exaggerating the crap out of it, which utterly wouldn’t work on a Steinway or Bosendorfer. In other words, the instrument affects the logic of the performance.

Oh, come on😒 maybe a little bit for mozart but, no