From the Field -- FMS Sky Trainer 182 Blue, PNP 1400mm Assembly & Flight Review | The RC Geek
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Күн бұрынThis FMS Sky Trainer 182 came into the shop recently and is a really nice flying little Cessna. It's an older FMS design and so the assembly is a little more involved than some of the newer FMS birds but looks great once all together. In flight, the model has good scale type power and will do basic (non-scale) aerobatics well. As a trainer, it's a good candidate as well and is something that you can progress with as you're learning. #Cessna182 #TheRCGeek #FlightReview
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Zoom Zoom 00:00
Intro 0:05
CG & Radio Setup 1:15
How's it Fly? 2:40
3s Flight 3:30
Final Thoughts 8:00
Like rocks! 8:40
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@pedromonteiro2941 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful FMS airplane .....! Really looks SCALE ! I like it a lot ! Cheers !
@friendlyreptile9931 2 жыл бұрын
It was my first plane 3 years ago (The V2 without gyro) and i still love it. I removed the blue decals from the hood and wings and also the FMS logo and that made it look so much better :D Sadly it dosn't fit into my car so i fly my e-flite f-15 much more.
@SunriseRCAviator 2 жыл бұрын
It is a very nice scale 182 plane. I fly mine on 4s 2.2Ah battery and it's super fun. You're right about this being an old model which shows during assembly and especially the connector for the tail light is something that can fault so be sure to check that it works before gluing. Also the wing spar is really short so I would recommend to reinforce the wing. Even the rear stab has to be reinforced, as it has no rod out of the box, with something like a carbon fibre rod. This is important if you decide to go 4s and push the plane with aerobatics. But it's a great flying plane and highly recommended.
@RickyD1968 2 жыл бұрын
love the FMS 182 and very smooth flying good job !!!
@Thercgeek 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@pdel303 3 ай бұрын
Beautiful plane,, nice job with it. thx for sharing.
@rodgerhecht3623 2 жыл бұрын
Look like a nice flyer ,thanks for the info on this plane.
@wilsonwhiteowl116 2 жыл бұрын
Great flying plane , looks real nice and smooth , like the touch and goes , smooth ...
@paulmcneil5529 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a cool video I need to set up the mix on mine.
@jacksampson7711 Жыл бұрын
This is the first RTF's I bought off ebay in 2015. It was like only $150 shipped back then. 1 flight and done!!! Crashed shortly after taking off. I thought trainer would mean I could learn to fly with this. No gyro's back then to help you fly. Love this plane but never got another one...Living through you man...
@n64uwls6a Жыл бұрын
Our tow plane at Montague was the 182. Really great ship.
@AntoinneBarnes 2 жыл бұрын
Rc Geek you...sir are my new hero!! I just purchased this same model and I'm a new pilot!! I've not flown my plane Thank you for the insights and the info! And thanks for being fantastic!
@Thercgeek 2 жыл бұрын
Ha, thanks man! I’m so glad this is helpful. 😊
@rcglory435 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely Rock solid -- glorify the Heavens, FOREVER!
@DuneDaddyO 11 ай бұрын
RCG, I bought this at the same time I bought my FMS 1220 Ranger thinking that it would be a next level graduate plane for me after learning from zero on the Ranger as I am a total newbie. In fact I just had my first ever successful takeoff and landing in the same flight! I've only flown 3x times after someone else took off and landed for me so I did it on my own on only my 4th ever flight. Super excited, but I still have a long way to go and lots to learn and experience to gain however I am already having some second thoughts about unboxing this one. I am a subscriber to your channel but also watch others like Fat Guy and the Brian Phillips RC review kinda surprised me a bit with his comments on the level of difficulty of assembly and even landings. I've never assembled one of these or any RC plane for that matter and really don't know anything. Maybe I'll hold onto it and wait to grow into it, much like the larger HSDJets version. It seems after watching your reviews and a few others that the HSDJets 2000mm would be easier than the 1400? What can you say to that based on your assembly and flight experience with both? I just had to get one of the HSD's while I could before they were all gone. I am so sold on the true scale realism and looks. Not something to do stunts with per se but just cruise and enjoy slow flight passes and dusk flying. Oh, I love that my Ranger has floats. I am looking forward to trying them soon too. Keep up the great content.
@chrisfinta4941 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you i just ordered this plane today let’s see .
@johnw5734 2 жыл бұрын
I've got to learn how to land like that. Very cool model.
@itzjoeylo4501 Жыл бұрын
6:28 that was close lol great 👍 flying
@JJ-jt4ji Жыл бұрын
Nice video. I just got one. I didn't check the tires though.
@TheInvisibleOrange26 Жыл бұрын
Hey pro tip to keep tires from scratching so bad remove them and add thin coat of liquid rubber to reduce nois
@oldscratch3540 2 жыл бұрын
You make her look good right up until the wheels hit the ground. Then the sound just sounds like a boy falling down the stairs in wood shoes. 🤣
@Thercgeek 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha, I like that description. 🤣. Like a bag full of rocks rolling down the runway. 🤣. Good little flyer though.
@oncemore7116 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid! and thanks for the other vids. The manual references an engine brake option that the ESC is capable off (Full throttle- plug in battery) you tried this, any idea what it does ? This was my first plane after 20 year hiatus from RC flying. Nose gear the weak point, not grass friendly. but flies great!!. also would benefit from softer wheels..
@Thercgeek 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! So, the brake on the motor simply stops it whenever there’s no throttle applied. It’s really meant for aircraft with folding props and things like that.
@alwaysflying6540 10 ай бұрын
This plane reminds me of the movie iron eagle with the guy racing a dirt bike with the Cesena. You know the movie? You must, its a classic
@Thercgeek 10 ай бұрын
Oh I know the movie very well. 😆. It’s still one of my favorites, haha! The snake scene is one of the most incredible bits of flying. Art Scholl’s flying in that Cessna was just incredible.
@alwaysflying6540 10 ай бұрын
@Thercgeek Yeah buddy
@frconde0611 2 жыл бұрын
Nice review RC geek. What tires upgrade do you recommend? stock are bouncy. Had my skytrainer esc replaced with avian esc for the reverse thrust.
@Thercgeek 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a good question. I think DuBro may have some foam tires in that size.
@joshchubbuck7801 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid! Just curious, how much flight time can you get out of the battery? And what is the charge time?
@Thercgeek 2 жыл бұрын
I was getting around 5 minutes if I remember right. I haven’t flown the model in a while. On the charge time, with a good quality charger, recharge time is about 30 minutes on average.
@davidembry1 2 жыл бұрын
Nice flight, I have the same plane. We’re did you mount your receiver? I mounted mine in the cabin but there is to much going on once the wings are on. I have to remove the wings to transport it. New to the hobby. This is my second plane. Any help is appreciated. Is there a simpler harness for the LEDs
@Thercgeek 2 жыл бұрын
I put the receiver in the access are for the elevator and rudder servos. It’s not great if you have to remove the wings. It’s pretty much a one piece model for me, haha
@FlyWithRookie Жыл бұрын
Where did you get the tool to measure the throw on the control surfaces (around 2:05)? Do you mind sharing the link?
@Thercgeek Жыл бұрын
I have my own design available here: www.thercgeek.com/product/Control-Surface-Deflection-Meter 😊
@k1ortia Жыл бұрын
whats the correct name for that measuring gauge you used, to get the correct throws? cheers, and great video
@Thercgeek Жыл бұрын
The specific one in the video is long discontinued. I've since designed and offer my own: www.thercgeek.com/product/Control-Surface-Deflection-Meter
@amasat71 2 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@oncemore7116 2 жыл бұрын
Well drama tonight. coming out of a roll wing broke mid air right at the spar. flies great but not strong enough wing structure for aerobatics. since it’s my trainer I have many spare parts on hand for this one so expect to be up again tomorrow. minus rolls/loops
@Thercgeek 2 жыл бұрын
Oh no! Well, I’m glad it’s repairable.
@seylansilva3481 2 жыл бұрын
Hi just wondering do you always fly with the gyro on ? or only on windy days . usually i don't like gyros in gerneral because i feel like gyro is flying the plane not me so i tend to remove em from my planes . just wanna know ur perspective on this thanks.
@Thercgeek 2 жыл бұрын
Airplanes that come with gyros I’ll usually just leave them in, but otherwise there are few airplanes I actually install gyros into since most airplanes don’t really need them.
@old-rcplane-phart 2 жыл бұрын
I had mine for my 1st flight after the maiden. Buddy of mine couldn't take it, he wanted it. LoL! Feeding all the leads down the tube was an absolute HORROR! 😳🤯! That took forever (it seemed). Everything else was straight forward! 👍
@Thercgeek 2 жыл бұрын
Haha, nice! Yeah, feeding the wires through was a pain. I zip tied them together which really helped feed them through.
@vulcan106 2 жыл бұрын
@@Thercgeek I have a student who wants a scale high wing (not a cub ) for a second plane. So we're looking hard at the 182. Can we leave the wheel pants off until his landings improve and install them later?
@Thercgeek 2 жыл бұрын
Yep! the wheel pants are removable by just a few screws each. 😊 this is a really great candidate for what he’s looking for.
@laithzraikat9071 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative video. I have one question: can this fly with a 4S 3300 MAH 80C battery?
@Thercgeek 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I’m not entirely certain on that battery, but I’d expect that an 80c 3300 is probably quite a bit larger than a 2200, so may be challenging to get in there.
@gabrielanaya9744 Жыл бұрын
Hola, Quiero una cessna igual,como puedo conseguirla?
@jacsongarcia7714 10 ай бұрын
Se le puede colocar bateria 4s 2200 alguien me puede desir grasias
@thetrainchannel5125 2 жыл бұрын
I have not flown anything bigger that 850mm, do you think this is the best choice for a bigger plane? Will it also fly at about 50% throttle
@Thercgeek 2 жыл бұрын
I think this would be a good choice. Assembly is a little bit of a pain, but it flies great and does well at partial throttle.
@thetrainchannel5125 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@MrVasmikey 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, my buddy is learning to fly with this model and the wing struts pull loose from the foam when making a less than gentle correction. I would firm up those attachments before flying.
@Thercgeek 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder what type of glue he used? I used foamtac for all of that and the attachments have been rock solid so far.
@MrVasmikey 2 жыл бұрын
@@Thercgeek the strut pulled foam with it. The glue held. It needs a wood brace.
@old-rcplane-phart 2 жыл бұрын
I used 30 minute epoxy. Zero issues still 👍 (& locktite'd the nuts. Just in case)
@vulcan106 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice video. Two questions; Do you think the Sky Trainer would operate well from a grass field. And if you don't mind sharing, what camera do you use to shoot flight videos? Thanks for being so much help to the RC community.
@Thercgeek 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Regarding grass, I would say it would depend on how thick it is. If not too thick and the wheel pants removed, would probably do ok but I can’t say definitively since it’s all asphalt out here.
@old-rcplane-phart 2 жыл бұрын
I maidened/flew mine on an UNmanicured, public grass field with no issues at all. That hadn't been mowed in 3 weeks.
@Thercgeek 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@waynehalifax 2 жыл бұрын
It takes off perfectly from short grass and I still have the wheel pants on.
@Thercgeek 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect!
@lindenstewart4404 2 жыл бұрын
Nice flight of the sky trainer 182 Cessna, I notice you using a spektrum transmitter, what receive are you using in the sky trainer is it a spektrum receiver?
@Thercgeek 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I’m using an AR620 receiver.
@lindenstewart4404 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks RC Geek, dose the AR620 has the safe select binding ?
@Thercgeek 2 жыл бұрын
The ar620 doesn’t have the option for safe, you’ll need an ar637 for that. bit.ly/SpktmAR637
@chriscastella9854 2 жыл бұрын
NIce....if you have to dial in a down elevator while lowering in the flap, then you are flying fast...so maybe train your eyes in recognizing the correct airspeed before lowering in the flap so it wont baloon...(aerodynamics 101)
@Thercgeek 2 жыл бұрын
I fully appreciate what you’re saying, but honestly there’s more to it than that. Keep in mind that when flaps are deployed on any airplane, there is a lift, drag and pitching moment change that occurs. Most only consider the lift change and to a lesser extent the drag. However, When you camber the flaps, there is a change in the flow downwash angle at the wing trailing edge which changes the local angle of attack at the leading edge of the tail. This results in a pitching moment change that changes the trim. The direction of the trim change is configuration dependent. Some configurations require up elevator while other configurations (like the Cessna) require down elevator. This comes from experience flying different aircraft in addition to analyzing lots of wind tunnel data through my work. I’ve seen lots of interesting trends based on configuration.
@chriscastella9854 2 жыл бұрын
@@Thercgeek Buddy that is exactly what i am mentioning...the increased lift (thus the pitching moment) is due to deploying the flap at a higher airspeed than optimal. If you remove the mix and reduce the airspeed to near a stall and then deploy the flap, the a/c will not pitch... :)
@Thercgeek 2 жыл бұрын
yes deploying flaps at a higher speed will cause a change you’re describing, yes. And flying fast with the flaps down will even drive the nose downward. However what I’m saying is that there’s more than just a lift change driving things here. There is most definitely a trim change with flaps and that is prevalent on most airplanes. The interaction of the downwash at the tail from the trailing edge angle change is a big part of that trim change.
@paulgervais1920 Жыл бұрын
@@chriscastella9854 True, i am flying this model as i fly my 100% scale Cessna, so before selecting flaps down, you must bleed off airspeed, by reducing power to approach power and approach airspeed (elevator trim is needed here) then select first notch flaps, then second or third notch of flaps, then adjust power and trim for final approach speed wich should be near 1.3 VS (1.3 X stall speed ). To RC Geek you fly very well...very well those approach and landings...keeping some power until touch down, this is the key to a standard safe landing on most airplane...! And thank you for your excellent work...we all enjoy it ... keep going my friend.
@InsanityMega Жыл бұрын
is this a good idea for my second plane? i had a 400mm corsair for a while and ive been looking for a good top wing
@Thercgeek Жыл бұрын
This is a good option for sure. Assembly is a little more extensive than some models though, so keep that in mind depending on what you’re looking for.
@InsanityMega Жыл бұрын
@@Thercgeek Thank you so much, i really appreciate it
@Ceali_Aviation Жыл бұрын
Is this a good starter plane (even though i have flown a smaller rc plane before)?
@Thercgeek Жыл бұрын
It is a decent starter. It is a little labor intensive to out together compared to some others, so just keep that in mind depending on what you’re looking for.
@daniilshmigelskiy7459 2 жыл бұрын
I have the same aircraft, and i first used a 14 volt battery. But then when i use a 11.1 v the motor doesnt run. Everything seems to be working fine except the motor. Anyone can help out?
@Thercgeek 2 жыл бұрын
Does it still work with the 4s battery? Also, does the motor spin freely by hand? I’m wondering if esc or motor could have fried from the 4s usage.
@Thercgeek 2 жыл бұрын
If the above looks good, The other thing to try is to recalibrate the esc with the 3s pack.
@daniilshmigelskiy7459 2 жыл бұрын
Thats for replying!! Yes the 4s works still, so im thinking recalibrating the esc with the 3s battery will help! Thanks for your reply
@robertsims8986 2 жыл бұрын
WOULD IT BE HARD TO CHANGE THE WHILES TO RUBBER THANK YOU I LOVE YOUR VLOG KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK
@Thercgeek 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! The tires should be pretty simple to swap out. The wheel pants can be opened up to expose the tires and then it’s just a matter of replacing with a comparable size from dubro or something similar.
@mikenowland2739 2 жыл бұрын
Nice job Mr Geek 👍 When are the manufacturers going to start putting decent wheels on planes ! Don’t they test fly them? . I would pay the few extra bucks it would add to the price.
@Thercgeek 2 жыл бұрын
Haha, right?!
@old-rcplane-phart 2 жыл бұрын
Most wheels need a splot of WD-40! Its like liquid bearings! 😁
@mikenowland2739 2 жыл бұрын
@@old-rcplane-phart Most of the tyres are so hard these days not like the dubro types that use to be used.
@petermccuaig1021 Жыл бұрын
Going to fly mine tomorrow and worried about landing it
@Thercgeek Жыл бұрын
I’m sure you’ll do great, but Don’t be afraid to ask for help either if you need it. It will go a long way in saving your investment. Good luck!
@jimmyhaley727 2 жыл бұрын
when i click on show more,, i get nothing,, whats up ?
@Thercgeek 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure what that means. Are you talking related to the video description? Or something different? Here’s the link to the model: bit.ly/FMSSkyT182
@Wastelessplague 2 жыл бұрын
where can i buy that throw meter
@Thercgeek 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately it’s a no longer available product. I’m working on my own version that I will be bringing to market. So, stay tuned. 😊
@bertmcnaughton8078 2 жыл бұрын
Can you put floats on it?
@Thercgeek 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not certain if there’s a float kit for it, but I would imagine they could be retrofitted with some effort.
@payitfwdrcl6171 2 жыл бұрын
Chris. You have way too much fun my friend. I got to ask….you ever check prop for balance before you install it? Some planes, not all, I seen need a little prop balancing. Lot too depends on the quality they put into these models. I not knocking you or anybody that doesn’t check it. I just curious of your thoughts. I know most folks just want to get it assembled and just go fly. I understand that. I had an old Eflite model I picked up at the hobby shop not too long ago l that had just an all around poorly constructed prop. I must admit, that is rare. Most Eflite brands don’t have that many issues in that respect. I know that stuff happens but I couldn’t stand the aweful sound it made and ended up replacing it with a better prop that took very little to balance it. Purred like a kitten in the air. Anyway, Really Enjoy your videos. 👍👍😊
@Thercgeek 2 жыл бұрын
I rarely check balance although I should, haha! The e-flite Cessna prop was especially out of balance, but I just powered through with that one. Usually I’ll fly a prop first and if it’s bad, I’ll balance it. In the case of the 150, I just ignored it all together hoping it would solve itself. 🤣
@payitfwdrcl6171 2 жыл бұрын
@@Thercgeek LOL. That’s cool….I hear you. 👍
@old-rcplane-phart 2 жыл бұрын
90% of the props worldwide are closely balanced in their tolerances. Unless u do a prop strike. Then u NEED to balance it!
@payitfwdrcl6171 2 жыл бұрын
@@old-rcplane-phart I don’t doubt that at all. Most planes i own they are balanced out of the box. Just that you can here some more than others on some videos like this one Chris made. Little foamies are not that critical. Full scale, a little more so for sure. 👍
@garygenova9916 Жыл бұрын
How much does it coats😂
@thebooftheland4557 2 жыл бұрын
ราคาเท่าไหร่ครับ
@michaelbrinkley9323 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful aircraft ! Does it come with SAFE technology?
@Thercgeek 2 жыл бұрын
It doesn’t have safe out of the box, but If you use one of the newer smart receivers in the airplane, you can set it up with safe.
@michaelbrinkley9323 2 жыл бұрын
@@Thercgeek. Thank you. Would you recommend this as a first trainer aircraft ?
@Thercgeek 2 жыл бұрын
This is a good candidate for a first trainer for sure. I do recommend seeking out some flight instruction through your local club as they will help get you sorted and give a good foundation for you to progress from.
@shadancrystal1187 Жыл бұрын
Are u using gyro?
@Thercgeek Жыл бұрын
Nope, no gyro in this one. It really doesn’t need it.
@RickyD1968 2 жыл бұрын
What glue did you use for the wing struts ?
@Thercgeek 2 жыл бұрын
I used foamtac
@RickyD1968 2 жыл бұрын
@@Thercgeek Ok Thank you so much
@RickyD1968 11 ай бұрын
@@Thercgeek What do you think about foam to foam glue ?
@melvonnar1 Жыл бұрын
be prepared on spending some serious time putting this airplane together.
@Thercgeek Жыл бұрын
It definitely takes some time
@pilotsergio Жыл бұрын
Does it come with a controller?
@Thercgeek Жыл бұрын
This one does not come with a controller.
@pilotsergio Жыл бұрын
@@Thercgeek Do you know if the "FMS 1400mm Sky Trainer 182 Blue w/Reflex V2" that the FAIR RC website is selling, includes the radio controller and everything that is needed to fly? (it will be my first RC airplane so I don't have any type of accessories). Also, I saw that "horizon hobby" has the same airplane and it says that includes a controller but is over 300 days but in FAIR RC says "183.99".
@Thercgeek Жыл бұрын
No, it does not include everything you need to fly it. It’s just the airframe with the electronics and motor/esc installed into it. You want to be looking for RTF (ready to fly) kits if that’s what you’re looking for. In all honesty, as a first aircraft, the aeroscout from horizon hobby is pretty hard to beat and it comes with everything bit.ly/AroScoutRTF
@pilotsergio Жыл бұрын
@@Thercgeek I just order the airplane! What glue do you recommend?
@Thercgeek Жыл бұрын
Cool! Foamtac is what I used in assembling this.
@n64uwls6a Жыл бұрын
Too fast for scale. Nice ship though.
@larryblanks6765 Жыл бұрын
To much money for foam crap.
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