From TIN CAN to THOCK! • Keychron Q1 mods (force break, polyfill, PE foam, tempest tape) vs GMMK Pro

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~~~~Chapters~~~~
00:00 Intro
00:47 Sponsor: PCBWay
01:20 Stock Q1
03:37 Mods Round 1: Force Break
05:19 Mods Round 2: Polyfill
07:11 Mods Round 3: PE Foam, Tempest Tape
09:08 vs GMMK Pro
12:12 Conclusion
13:34 Outro
14:06 Final Typing 1: Gateron Black Ink v2, GMK Laser
14:37 Final Typing 2: Akko Radiant Red (stock), Geekark Wob+BoW+Accent
15:08 Final Typing 3: Boba U4T (Gazzew-style lube), Maxkey SA Foundation
15:38 End Screen
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Пікірлер: 69

@Legojunkie 2 жыл бұрын

This is honestly the best mod video for the Q1, and after watching this, I’m going back to watch the GMMK Pro videos for a third time to make sure I’m nodding mine right. Well done sir!

@CaloysKeyboards 2 жыл бұрын

Wow thank you so much!

@TechManG 2 жыл бұрын

I love that you explained all the issues you encountered, I ran into the same problem especially when using PE foam and trying to keep the provided stock plate foam. It's not possible to keep with the PE foam. Also, I had to use the absolute thinnest foam I could find for the PE mod, otherwise the foam would be too thick and the switches wouldn't connect with the PCB correctly.

@kenvilla7248 Жыл бұрын

Most Effort put into comparisons and sound tests. Even the color Coated Time stamps are a huge plus! Keep up the great content man. Definitely gonna grab my self a Q1 for Modding.

@KicoRox Жыл бұрын

Super thorough review. Loved the way you edited the sounds switching between setups. Best of any reviewer I’ve seen. Congrats!

@aebfroman Жыл бұрын

I appreciate your sound comparison timing, there is no need for a minute long sound demo.

@Blawlog 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the thoughtful and detailed video! Two things to add: (1) I’ve modded both the original and updated/knob Q1. The awful corner roundness issue has been solved in the update. However the force break mod is still recommended for some residual ping; Keychron’s solution was pretty half-baked there. (2) You sort of alluded to this, but flex is way more meaningful if you’re a heavier typist like me. For people who rarely bottom out, stiffer boards are fine.

@CaloysKeyboards 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the kind words and the additions! That's pretty disappointing about Keychron's force break. Thankfully, the mod isn't that hard to do. I wonder if I can train myself to be a heavier typist... lol

@brunowise2729 2 жыл бұрын

I remodded my q1 a month ago using only these 3 mods. It's really all the q1 needs. Nice comprehensive video.

@CaloysKeyboards 2 жыл бұрын

Nice! Thank you!

@Desmond987 Жыл бұрын

I appreciate the work you put in this video testing the acoustics. Thank you so much for this video!

@CaloysKeyboards Жыл бұрын

Thank you also! 😊

@marcocarag103 2 жыл бұрын

Man, just imagining the work to do all of those setups and record them -- makes me want to take a nap. Props for the hard work! Also, as always, love how you jump between configurations -- makes it so much easier to hear the relative differences. I think sound-wise I agree with you in that I prefer the GMMK Pro. But looks-wise, I prefer the Q1. The inconsistency of the bezels on the GMMK Pro always bothered me, and I prefer them thicker anyway. Another great vid!

@CaloysKeyboards 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Definitely a lotta work for all the setups and editing them together but it seems worth it hehehe

@OhJustCommenting 2 жыл бұрын

Wow the editing and work behind this vid is appreciated. Well done.

@CaloysKeyboards 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Your comment is also appreciated ☺

@eriksonmoses2524 Жыл бұрын

So glad I found your channel man!

@nerdface.jpg_ 8 ай бұрын

Man Iwasted my whole night with that stock foam + pe foam issue :') Why didn't I see your video before Anyways, thanks a lot for the vid with every sound tests... helped a lot

@MarbsMusic 9 ай бұрын

Excellent review and information! I added the Flex Mod to my GMMK Pro with Pandas as well and it sounds great. I can't seem to get my Q1 Pro to sound that keep yet but still working on it. Thank you for your thoughts, going to try some of them this weekend!

@CaloysKeyboards 9 ай бұрын

Thank you! Good luck with it!

@falsecatalyst3936 8 ай бұрын

for the issue of case dampening, you may want to try cutting a really thin silicone sheet, like 0.5mm thin, this way, it reduces ping and resonance whilst still having plenty of space between case and pcb for tape modding and flex

@arcforceworld Жыл бұрын

that last clip with the boba u4t's really Slapped! Them radiant reds werent bad either! Damn, Now i cant decide! I want this board, but now i cant decide which switches! lol!

@JordanDoesKeebs 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome video as usual 🔥

@CaloysKeyboards 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@SongfulpuppyXBL 2 жыл бұрын

During the comparison, considering the mods done, I’m leaning towards the GMMK pro when mounted by ink blacks, but I like the Q1 when mounted by the akko radiants. Nice video very entertaining.

@little_fluffy_clouds 2 жыл бұрын

I bought both, modded both and sold the Q1 and kept the GMMK Pro. Both are great, I just prefer the exploded 4 button vertical row on the right and the side LED bars (totally gimmicky, I know, but I like them)

@martintran3438 2 жыл бұрын

Gmmk pro “gasket mount” is a troll

@little_fluffy_clouds 2 жыл бұрын

@@martintran3438 It’s really fine after modding with thicker gasket strips and installing StupidFish case foam and the AVX FR4 plate. Problem with the GMMK Pro is you have to mod it and buy some aftermarket components in order to unlock its full potential. If you don’t want to tinker, rweak and tune, then the new revision Q1 which ships with a knob was better out of the box.

@CaloysKeyboards 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Using the Q1 with the Radiants now and loving it hehe

@mingez 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, not sure if I like the radiants or the bobas more!! And they are completely different!

@Lambrodor 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your thorough comparison. Have you ever tried switch pads in place of the PE foam? I would like to improve the sound of my Q1, but I wanted to find a more "elegant" fashion of doing it.

@CaloysKeyboards 2 жыл бұрын

I haven't tried those yet. Seems like a huge hassle to install them all one at a time 😅

@andrewcatubig9239 2 жыл бұрын

Nice review and comparison! But personally, what's the best mod for you? Was thinking if Azure Dragons tactiles will sound better on these board.. Planning to get a Q1

@CaloysKeyboards 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Best mod for the Q1? For the non-knob version, definitely force break. For the knob version probably tape for the most improvement with least effort.

@Legojunkie 2 жыл бұрын

After rewatching your GMMK Pro videos, it seems that you’ve done some additional mods to it. What have you changed since that video?

@CaloysKeyboards 2 жыл бұрын

I just went back to the aluminum plate and C3 stabilizers hehe

@0xBULLgogi Жыл бұрын

I know this is old but I bet the biggest change to sound wouldve been to add a sound dampening sheet from kilmat or noico as the case foam. I bet the polyfill didn't really do the keyboard justice.

@phelix3395 2 жыл бұрын

Hello, what keycap set did you use on the thumbnail?

@CaloysKeyboards 2 жыл бұрын

That's Domikey Dolch in Cherry Profile from KPRepublic 😊

@VyreYT 2 жыл бұрын

Hi!! How did you mod the final typing 2 (akko radiant red)? I have the same keyboard and switches. A silicone foam, tape mod and tempest mod and mine doesnt sound that thock like yours!! May be its because of the silicone foam and should i change it for a PE foam to get a thockier sound? Other question: did you add the polyfill to the stock keychron q1 PE foam?? Pls answer. Thanks in advance!! By far the best keychron q1 mods ive ever seen on youtube. Great work!!

@CaloysKeyboards 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I detailed the mods I performed in the video. Not sure what you mean by silicone foam. You mean like a sheet of silicone for sound dampening? Is it under the PCB or on top?

@VyreYT 2 жыл бұрын

@@CaloysKeyboards yes! Its silicone sheet foam under the pcb, basically i replaced the 2 stock foam for a silicone sheet foam. What do you recommend to me?

@CaloysKeyboards 2 жыл бұрын

If you did the tape mod, it should still thock regardless of the sound dampening material under the PCB. What switch are you using? EDIT: Oops I just read that you're using the same switches. I'd say the Akkos are pretty clacky but I'm not sure why they'd sound different than on my setup. I guess you could try adding some PE foam on top of the PCB but in my experience, combining it with the tape mod doesn't really add all that much thock.

@mingez 2 жыл бұрын

It could also be the key caps

@sambothach6064 Жыл бұрын

What keycaps are those with the Japanese secondary text?

@CaloysKeyboards Жыл бұрын

The one on the thumbnail? That's Domikey Cherry Dolch.

@Rutaia 2 жыл бұрын

Can you tell me if the keyboard (Q1) has interference with any of the keycaps that you used for the vid? Like could you press all the keys and let me know if any of them get stucked? Also what plate are you using? PCB or Aluminum?

@CaloysKeyboards 2 жыл бұрын

Are you talking about the corner radius issue where the keycaps would snag on the top case corners? I talked about that in the video. If you mean interference with north-facing switches, this has south-facing switches.

@Rutaia 2 жыл бұрын

@@CaloysKeyboards Im talking ab the corner radius issue. I bought this board but stil don't know which keycaps to buy. Also, what mods did u do to the board when u tried it with boba u4t?

@CaloysKeyboards 2 жыл бұрын

@@Rutaia Unfortunately, pretty much all keycaps I tried have some form of that corner scrape. It's the same mods as all the other configs

@Rutaia 2 жыл бұрын

@@CaloysKeyboards Wait so u did all the mods when u did bob u4t sound test at the end?

@CaloysKeyboards 2 жыл бұрын

@@Rutaia Yes

@TheOneAndOnlyPotato. 7 ай бұрын

Nice vid! What are the keycaps at 6:32?

@CaloysKeyboards 7 ай бұрын

Thank you! Those are Domikey's Cherry Dolch keycaps

@user-qn1zj5bs5p 2 жыл бұрын

hi is this the latest improved version of Q1 ?

@CaloysKeyboards 2 жыл бұрын

It's not. Only the knob version has had the improvements. I mention it in the video.

@user-qn1zj5bs5p 2 жыл бұрын

@@CaloysKeyboards okay thanks , not good with english hearing

@howardang0121 2 жыл бұрын

hi, What are the keycaps on 12:40

@CaloysKeyboards 2 жыл бұрын

Those are PBT blank keycaps with fabric stickers on them. I did a whole video on the stickers but unfortunately they're not available anymore: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pdqAos2AtaiXmZs.html

@r1z3n30 2 жыл бұрын

q8 is coming too!

@CaloysKeyboards 2 жыл бұрын

Oh I missed that page! I stopped Googling when I saw there was no Q7 lol. I've seen the posts by Keychron in enthusiast groups though and I'm very interested in the Alice/Arisu layout hehe

@Orion-redx7 2 жыл бұрын

Worth it to sell the gmmk pro and get as Q1 knob?

@CaloysKeyboards 2 жыл бұрын

If you really want bounce/flex, then yes. But you'll probably lose money on that deal depending on the condition of your GMMK Pro and you may still have to perform some kind of force break mod as others have reported that Keychron's stock force break is not enough.

@Orion-redx7 2 жыл бұрын

@@CaloysKeyboards Okay, ty. I think THE GMMK pro sounds much better than the Q1.