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Huzzah!

So idle they're stabbing each other

He got me with the April Fools video too. And yet I still clicked on this without hesitation.

Oh I'll be getting my Captain title back.

​@DDRJake you saw the 4th section of law too, my friend?

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Captain Bonks-a-lot

​@@DDRJakeLooking forward to it oml

Reminds me of the time I went to a sports competition, and some poor girl had part of her finger cut off from getting shut in a van door. Someone actually went and found the finger bit, just laying in the gravel. Eugh.

@@eolond1003 Out of curiosity, do you know if she had surgery to attach it back or can you even do that?

@@12354rony I'll answer your question. Yes you can stitch it back on, but I think the finger has to still be healthy.

@@someguy4071 I mean, if it was completely cut off would the bone have any chance to fuse back together? Also I imagine the nerves would be perma damaged and you wouldn't be able to move of feel with that finger again.

​@@12354ronypeople do get fingers re-attached and functional but I believe it has to be done pretty quickly after the accident so the limb doesn't die. Surgeons can reattach nerves nowadays, but physical therapy is necessary to regain function (I'm just interested in bionics, I promise I'm not a murderer)

Aye. Do these people really need a generator?

​@@DDRJakethe icebloods certainly don't, not like those weak technocrats... on that note, we should give them another visit with our batons in hand.

History has proven otherwise.

Agreed. Playtests and betas live and die with the (lack of) feedback they receive. And Jake is a very technical person, given his extensive systems mastery of Frostpunk prior.

@@Dinictus Yeah the man's challenge runs on FP1 are things of legend so he's plenty qualified. The beta actually has a survey link to Google forms so they're encouraging feedback, I gave them my thoughts

They could implement option to transfer city from one game to the other like crusader kings to Europa universalis transfer.

​@@worekmiesa1255ohh they have to be, if not i'm gonna riot

​@@gregrenox9644 Discontent rises greatly

I really wished the generator was bigger and way more pronounced. Like how they turned into THICK BOYS before 🤣

It's 30 years since the end of Frostpunk 1. That's why you start with a couple thousand people isntead of a couple hundred.

Right you are, I completely missed them. At this scale they look so tiny compared to the giants of FP1.

I couldn't read that without shouting "FOR DEMOCRACY" incessantly within my brain. I'm broken

​@@DDRJake that goes with your comment early on in the stream about this being a layer up from FP1. We are a little further away from everything. What we need is to build bigger better automatons.

Like Streets of Rogue 2 and boy I sure hope that game is good.

I like what they did (of what I have seen so far). Bold move and it does not make the first game obsolete. The only thing I dislike is that the first game is not "endless" (i.e. no user generated content like challenges, new maps and so on).

​@@banzooiebooieyeah it's really a shame that the Frostpunk 1 engine is impossible/unreasonably difficult to mod.

Ain't the from united kingdom tho?

Same here, if i wanted to play a macro-oriented game with a hex grid, I'd just play Civilization I wanted Frostpunk, not Winter Cities:Skylines

I have a feeling it's just going to get bigger and bigger, to the point of the cold being a minor annoyance and people being the major problem. From city to cities to nations to states to conquering other civilizations in the name of "progress." The cold has to persist, lest it just be Cities: Skylines or one of the Crusaders titles. Really hoping it doesn't come to that.

@@beginthewar9681 again that sounds like Civilization. Frostpunk was unique because your decisions were extremely impactful, and the game made sure you were to see it. From the individual dialogs to how your decisions in the book of law impacted your city, and of course the whole exploration mechanics which gave you access to more manpower and steamcores. What I'm trying to say is that Frostpunk made it feel personal, you get to decide how you will make this city survive the end of the world, whether you are benevolent and use positive laws, or you go Jake mode sending fifthly kids to the mines while embracing cannibalism. This game just feels bland compare to the first entry, like playing Civilization where you click 1 hex and get this bonus + another problem, you can't even zoom in to see what's happening Yes this is beta testing but if the game made it to beta, that means it won't change back to its roots

@@DLockholm Good points; The entire game feels impersonal and there's not a lot of pressure to do things. I haven't made it an hour in, so maybe I'll be proven wrong, but it seems like the promise system has been done away with. It couldn't have been hard to make larger and larger promises with greater frames of time to get it done, and there's no overarching timer; There's no more dread in the beginning, which is disappointing. You're right, I just hope that 8-bit adds a different mode in a DLC or something similar that slows time down and adds promises back in, though I doubt that'll happen in the few months between beta and full release.

@@lukek.2866 First, I know it's a beta. Not everything in it is ready, I've made sure to remind myself that for a while with many games of which I wanted to judge without knowing what the final product would look like, but we can make certain assumptions about what the final game will look like based on the beta. If these mechanics and this general made it through, the likelihood of this changing in any other mode is low, however DLCs have that chance to have things changed, as well as updates to the game. It's an ongoing project. Second, I'm glad they released a beta. I'm glad we got to see gameplay of this version. I have played many betas/demos, of which were mostly done but had some improvements. This is that. Of course it's not going to be done. Other scenarios will come out, other DLCs, different difficulties, modes, etc., but if this is the Freeplay, it tells us what gameplay will look like. I'm using Frostpunk as an example: The early-game of Frostpunk was very stressful before it leveled out in the main game. You reached a point of stability from which there was none, so you knew what you were getting into when you went into Freeplay. In Frostpunk 2, you start with many new things, which I'm sure the main campaign will explain in detail, and everything feels like it's at much less risk than before. There's no dread here, no urgency. Again, I'm sure that will change with time along with other campaigns, modes, and difficulties. I'm not saying I think it won't change, I'm saying that this is what a general game of Frostpunk 2 will look and feel like. You're not even wrong in that this isn't a final product, which is subject to change, I just feel disrespected and my opinion devalued because you doubted my intelligence/knowledge in knowing that this is a beta. Do not treat me like I am stupid.

I did not like the beta. It was nothing like fp1. Also performance is poor

First, the scenario above is bat shit crazy and I love it. Second, it's just a beta, performance will get better. I believe they're trying to stay safe with this one and reign it in a little. I'm sure for the 3rd one(If there is)/DLCs they'll be more willing to step out of the city-builder comfort zone. Cold is definitely an issue I want to press more on.

Part of the reason we never had a large deluge of extra content in Frostpunk was the developer was so overwhelmingly resistant to the idea of the game ever being modded. So you were limited to the developer's limiting idea of what the game should be like. The dev had a vision for the game and wanted it to be just that, what they envisioned. Good for them that they got what they wanted, but it did mean that Frostpunk became a game with significantly lower replay value because of that limitation. Compare with, say, Rimworld, a game that actively encourages the modmakers to go crazy, and how eventually there'll be a time you'll just have completed everything in Frostpunk and have nothing more to do and nothing to expand, while in Rimworld... well, that's when you start adding more mods.

@@bananaslamma35 Take a look at the multiple steam news posts by 11bit, when they modified FP to promote FP 2 in-game; many comments are negative, like, _viscerally_ negative, because 11bit would update several GB of content just to add some stupid button in the main menu. And here they are again, storing the whole game in a few giant, cryptic packages, as if they meant to scream: "Don't touch this, ever!" Honestly, I've liked FP so much, I couldn't bring myself to say it, but I think I'm bloody done with this studio.

Doesn't really feel "thematic" to me. Thematic would be something early-20th century style; this is just ... white and small with low contrasts in too many places and stuff put into odd places.

@@Sp4mMe to me it feels thematic because in the UI i feel hints of first century type-writer style/news paper format - something like that.

So far it feels like a step down and it has pacing and level issues, but I need to really sit down with it to judge them against each other.

A fickle mind is a healthy mind.

Nah I'm still excited for Frostpunk 2, the UI looks awful but if the game has the same tone and political themes of the first then I'll love it. I especially like the wider scale of the city.

Or rather, as the size and complexity of an economy grows, some kind of currency just becomes a neccessity to keep things running smoothly. And early on, that currency will tend to be backed by something, be it gold or silver or some kind of common neccessity like a staple food (IIRC in medieval Japan the official currency was backed by the feudal lords' rice income for example) or, in this case, heat.

@@magni5648 yeah that makes sense too!

Watched some horrible Frost punk 2 vids before Jake released. Like seeing two different games.

Five hours!? I sure hope you love that job but please respect your time and yourself.

@@DDRJake it pays well and i don't waste all of the time. i study , watch ur videos ,etc and most of all its an easy job.

I can't deny how much I love the acute, nuanced pain of playing a Nancy Drew game, but my favourite channel staples are RimWorld, Caesar III and The Long Dark. Another series that I have truly adored recently is Motorsport Manager because of how much fun it was to drag viewers into the game for our amusement.

Yeah, if you use a layout different than Polish Programmer's (international keys + diacritics under key combinations) you get strange looks. Deservedly so.